Second single: "Incredible" - Duet with Ne-Yo

[DionFanAlways]

I don't mean to be rude, I'm just being honest. I'm not talking about whether or not people agree or disagree. I'm talking about facts. The fact that radio doesn't support her even after a radio deal was paid for on the AC format. If her primary format is barely going to support her, why should the record label waste more money trying to get her played on a format where she hasn't been supported for years. Taking Chances in 2007 barely stood a chance and Z100 dropped it rather quickly. IDAN didn't even crack the top 40 in 2003. Her days in the mainstream of pop music are done. Yes, artists have resurges at times. Barbra Streisand's last album debuted at number 1, but you sure as hell will never hear her played on top 40 radio. Cher had her highest Billboard 200 debut in her entire career with her current album, she won't be played on top 40 either. It was like pulling teeth in 1999 to have top 40 stations to start playing "Believe" and that was when the divas were still riding high. "Incredible" has spent a few weeks in the AC top 30, that's a moderate hit for today's standards. Sad, but true.

 

I'm not arguing my opinion here, just stating facts. Believing in a song or an album to do well based on content is an opinion. Looking at Celine's career over the past 10 years, it's clear that she is not mainstream material anymore when you compare her to what kind of music is and has been in demand. I agree that LMBTL could have been bigger had Sony gone over the top with promotion like they did in the 90s. Even though Celine's priorities are different, I still believe she cares and will do whatever Sony sets up for her to do when it comes to promotion. It boils down to the fact that Sony is a business and with time, their priorities have changed as well. As they do with every generation of new artists. They have to promote the singers who are hot and bringing the money in right now. While Celine may still have a huge fan base, she's no longer the face of Sony's most popular artists. The business has changed, people's tastes have evolved. I say evolved because saying that taste has changed would infer that fans no longer have interest in Celine, which I don't believe to be true. I totally understand wanting your favorite artist to do well, but a few people here seem to block out the fact that she has already done well, and now she's doimg well in other personal and career ventures. I don't understand why, with all the facts presented to us people can't just step back and enjoy what Celine is still giving us. Celine doesn't seem to care much about keeping up with the younger singers, why do we? Us causing an uproar about it is just as bad and seemingly desperate as Madonna latching onto the strings of Nicki Minaj and Miley Cyrus' careers in order to gain some relevance rather than graciously accept the status of a legend and continue making music just because she loves to.

 

 

*Sorry for the lengthy post, I normally try to keep mine contained.*

Yeah you almost lost me there

[LukeD]

Just stop it... I am so sick of you ;-)

That's your problem. You can't insult people and expect them to say nothing. Next time be more careful.

[ryba]

And was Incredible part of the Olympics after all? I lost track of it...

[LukeD]

I have a big question... Has there ever been a singer to make a music video and never-ever release it? If yes, then I'll lose faith, cause I still believe we'll somehow get the video. Edited April 28, 2014 at 01:34 PM by LukeD

[dorfus]

I have a big question... Has there ever been a singer to make a music video and never-ever release it? If yes, then I'll lose faith, cause I still believe we'll somehow get the video.

 

A few, actually. Apparently, Prince has about 10 videos that were never released. Game filmed a video for "It Must Be Me", but its release was cancelled. There have been quite a few shelved/cancelled music videos, but most end up leaking on YouTube.

 

Edit: According to Wikipedia, Prince has over 50 unreleased music videos.

Edited April 28, 2014 at 01:49 PM by dorfus

[Alex_Incognito]

I have a big question... Has there ever been a singer to make a music video and never-ever release it? If yes, then I'll lose faith, cause I still believe we'll somehow get the video.

 

Supposedly Shakira did one before she got pregnant

and Britney Spears did supposedly a first draft of "Gimme More" that wasn't released.

[Frozen_Phoenix]

That's your problem. You can't insult people and expect them to say nothing. Next time be more careful.

 

I've never insulted you. I just hinted at your horrible arrogance

[Davey84]

I have a big question... Has there ever been a singer to make a music video and never-ever release it? If yes, then I'll lose faith, cause I still believe we'll somehow get the video.

 

the Original version of IWYTNM wasn't released.... GTSW also had many shots that were not officially released...

 

I guess they know what they are doing, but seriously I am over this song and the excitement. Sony killed LMBTL for me. It has so many great songs, the promotion seemed so promising in the start of it all: live performances of LMBTL, SLS, WAAF, IDKL, Incredible and a lipped one for Breakaway... but now 6 months later it's like this album never excisted! No official video, singles that went no where and no promotion during Valentine's Day or Mother's day... Sans Attendre got more attention than her first English album in 7 years! I don't want to downtalk her French career but F%CK her English career is like 75% of her total sales! With a much bigger audience worldwide... I really don't get why LMBTL got treated so poorly

[kevincheung410]

I have a big question... Has there ever been a singer to make a music video and never-ever release it? If yes, then I'll lose faith, cause I still believe we'll somehow get the video.

 

 

I Want You to Need Me directed by Paul Hunter in 2000

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjc0Mzc0NTMy.html

[LukeD]

I've never insulted you. I just hinted at your horrible arrogance

Saying or implying someone is childish, illiterate, arrogant IS insulting. Therefore you got the replies you deserved. You don't even admit what is obvious to everyone. You are just sad. Almost 30 years old picking fights on forums. Let's not forget you came here to provoke members by boasting about being right and others wrong. Next time, before you tell people to grow up take a good look in the mirror first and say to yourself "Am I mature enough to say that kind of s*** to strangers"? Same goes for the ridiculous comments around illiteracy. Begone now.

[LukeD]

I hope Prince is just the exception and not the rule! I still think the video will be released... Maybe just on YT.

[Xpresso]

Maybe the Incredible music video will be released when her next English album comes out in something like 5 years. At least we'll have a video for the next album...

[zuv]

Maybe the Incredible music video will be released when her next English album comes out in something like 5 years. At least we'll have a video for the next album...

5 years?! you're optimistic! lol

[mike_z]

Well, before someone jumps off a cliff, a bit of sunshine:

 

INCREDIBLE has reached a new peak on the Billboard AC Chart: #25

 

And crossed 2 million views on Vevo.

[Frozen_Phoenix]

Saying or implying someone is childish, illiterate, arrogant IS insulting. Therefore you got the replies you deserved. You don't even admit what is obvious to everyone. You are just sad. Almost 30 years old picking fights on forums. Let's not forget you came here to provoke members by boasting about being right and others wrong. Next time, before you tell people to grow up take a good look in the mirror first and say to yourself "Am I mature enough to say that kind of s*** to strangers"? Same goes for the ridiculous comments around illiteracy. Begone now.

 

Blablablablabla

 

The sad thing is that the video probably would have looked great.

Maybe they'll put it on some sort of extra dvd for a reissue of the album.

[québecflower]

they could put Mr.Paganini on the reissue, i would buy it... that the giraffe would be enough

[Timster]

they could put Mr.Paganini on the reissue, i would buy it... that the giraffe would be enough

 

I think they're saving Mr Paganini for a possible future jazz album...

[zuv]

A jazz album would be great, i love when she starts singing random sounds like at the end of "Les derniers seront les premiers" @53:33

http://youtu.be/azwVcOkS2QY

Im sure there would be a tone of those

[québecflower]

I think they're saving Mr Paganini for a possible future jazz album...

i hope so

[Timster]

A jazz album would be great, i love when she starts singing random sounds like at the end of "Les derniers seront les premiers" @53:33

http://youtu.be/azwVcOkS2QY

Im sure there would be a tone of those

 

It would be nice just a have an album from Celine where there is a clear concept and a coherent sound throughout. With TC they weren't necessarily expecting the edgy rock songs but decided to record them and promoted the album as 'a new sound for Celine', yet somehow they ended up keeping a folk song, RNTTRO!! And with LMBTL, they spent soo long working with the WAAF concept of half new, half old, but even after that idea was scrapped they still kept A17 and Overjoyed, which are two of the weakest songs on the album and completely ruin the continuity of the album as a whole.

 

This is nothing new of course, LTAL is a very good example of an album without a clear direction, resulting in a complete mash-up of genres and styles. But there are plenty of albums such as CD, TCOML and ANDHC that flow beautifully in my opinion.

[zuv]

 

 

It would be nice just a have an album from Celine where there is a clear concept and a coherent sound throughout. With TC they weren't necessarily expecting the edgy rock songs but decided to record them and promoted the album as 'a new sound for Celine', yet somehow they ended up keeping a folk song, RNTTRO!! And with LMBTL, they spent soo long working with the WAAF concept of half new, half old, but even after that idea was scrapped they still kept A17 and Overjoyed, which are two of the weakest songs on the album and completely ruin the continuity of the album as a whole.

 

This is nothing new of course, LTAL is a very good example of an album without a clear direction, resulting in a complete mash-up of genres and styles. But there are plenty of albums such as CD, TCOML and ANDHC that flow beautifully in my opinion.

Yep after "Didn't Know Love" the album went downhill, except for Thankful imo. I wondering which people were pushing for songs like the second half of the album. Oh well

[CelineDionFreak]

 

Yep after "Didn't Know Love" the album went downhill, except for Thankful imo. I wondering which people were pushing for songs like the second half of the album. Oh well

Thankful is one of my favorite songs on the album. It's really good!

they could put Mr.Paganini on the reissue, i would buy it... that the giraffe would be enough

Ikr?! I so wish we coulda had a studio version of Mr. Paganini!

[DionFanAlways]

Maybe the Incredible music video will be released when her next English album comes out in something like 5 years. At least we'll have a video for the next album...

That sounds like inside information! Do you know something we don't? Edited April 28, 2014 at 08:12 PM by DionFanAlways

[SuperLove4Celine]

Yep after "Didn't Know Love" the album went downhill, except for Thankful imo. I wondering which people were pushing for songs like the second half of the album. Oh well

 

"Unfinished Songs" and "Thank You" are great tracks which come after "Didn't Know Love."

[c4n4d4]

 

 

I've never insulted you. I just hinted at your horrible arrogance

Would you just stop? Your carrying on and continuing to insult Luke even after you've said you were done doing so and when he's stopped or asked you to stop bits childish and annoying. Stop and if you feel the need to continue take it to the private messages not a thread.

[zuv]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

just kidding

Edited April 28, 2014 at 08:57 PM by zuv

[Bruno Portugal]

Well, before someone jumps off a cliff, a bit of sunshine:

 

INCREDIBLE has reached a new peak on the Billboard AC Chart: #25

 

And crossed 2 million views on Vevo.

 

It's time to release the music video. Wake up Sony!

[QueenCeline87]

I'm beginning to think this will never see the light of day and it kills me cos it would have been so nice to have just one video for the LMBTL era!

Will we ever know what the giraffe was for ?? Lol

Maybe they will surprise us .....

[Frozen_Phoenix]

Would you just stop? Your carrying on and continuing to insult Luke even after you've said you were done doing so and when he's stopped or asked you to stop bits childish and annoying. Stop and if you feel the need to continue take it to the private messages not a thread.

 

Poor Luke... and isn't it fantastic that he has devoted friends that support him in his cause

 

I tried various times to finish this stupid discussion because I do not like wasting my precious time with people like him or... you ^^

 

I also made more than enough comments concerning "Incredible". It's not only my fault that the atmosphere seems so be a bit "tensed" right now.

 

It's just so ridiculous that even people like Gary Barlow have videos that support his singles. But Celine who is such a huge artist, does not bother to release one...

Edited April 28, 2014 at 10:00 PM by Frozen_Phoenix

[Xpresso]

Did you just say "Céline doesn't bother to release one"??? What!!??? The fact that she went to the filming of the music video means that she DID bother enough for this video to see the day... If it's not released, the last person we need to blame is Céline herself!!! René was recovering from his surgery at the time and Céline went to LA for this video...

If she didn't care she would NOT have gone to LA in the first place...