"Let's Talk About Love" album - Official Topic

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

Agree, however if he’d read his contract he would have known that any of his songs were fair game to be doled out to bigger artists. That’s how the industry works. Though I do feel his pain - it must suck to have your “big break” passed off to an artist who has already “made it”. Bet he’s not complaining about those royalty checks though… I’m sure they went a long way improving Billy’s quality of life.

 

There was no big break. His version went basically nowhere. It didn’t even crack 80 on the Hot 100. I also do not believe he had any royalties to the song, as at the time he was a virtually unknown artist. He didn’t have the clout at the time to make any type of deals to gain rights to publishing or copyright. He was not a writer on the song either.

 

Meanwhile, his version was part of a major movie. The song went nowhere despite the film’s success.

 

I also remember something about the song being offered to Celine first; but she had already wrapped on the FIY album, and it would not have made sense to have a song on a soundtrack that could no longer be included on an album. Also in addition to already having BYLM which had already gained traction as a hit.

 

Billy just needs to pipe down. His version of LIOTW is blah. It went nowhere. Then his follow up single didn’t crack the top 40. Maybe he just didn’t have the chops for mainstream music. He is talented for sure, but his voice is run of the mill. I’ve heard PLENTY of similar voices. Some even better that are in the same wheelhouse, who don’t get even half of the recognition that Billy does. I like his voice. I enjoy his presence in the industry. Do I think he deserves more than he has? Nope.

[marc-02]

Even if was not a single,

The album sold more than 30 million copies

If he got his 50 cents per copy, or even half of that…. Just do your counting

 

Why would he get royalty? He didn't write the song.

[marc-02]

The drama…

 

 

https://people.com/b...the-90s-8405049

 

Why is he bitter and all? It's not as if Celine "stole" his spotlight. Billy released the song first and it went nowhere. So basically that's the end of it. Now Celine basically COVERS him and the song gets renewed interest and probably more people (like me) got to know Billy because of the Celine connection.

[marc-02]

Just read this YT comment, dont know if this is true:

 

 

 

@papindabx

 

Just a bit of information I know about this song, Billy Porter & Celine Dion. Billy first recorded this song and was part of the "The First Wives Club" movie and soundtrack. His team and of course Billy were hoping this great song would help propel his album and him as a solo artist going mainstream. The album is amazing. I still have it and listen to it to this day. I highly recommend it....Then Celine Dion recorded it for her album "Let's Talk About Love" and her album skyrocketed in sales etc. while Billy's album didn't do well at all. Both albums came out around the same time. So fast forward, Billy was in a gay film called "The Broken Hearts Club: A Romantic Comedy". There was a scene where his character's boyfriend cheats on him and Billy's character finds out and tells his friends at his friend's birthday party. His friends try to console him by trying to put on some consoling album of love songs and someone suggests Celine Dion and he yells with disgust "In Hell"! And that was his way of getting back or expressing himself for what Celine's album did to his.

 

 

@papindabx

 

Just a bit of information I know about this song, Billy Porter & Celine Dion. Billy first recorded this song and was part of the "The First Wives Club" movie and soundtrack. His team and of course Billy were hoping this great song would help propel his album and him as a solo artist going mainstream. The album is amazing. I still have it and listen to it to this day. I highly recommend it....Then Celine Dion recorded it for her album "Let's Talk About Love" and her album skyrocketed in sales etc. while Billy's album didn't do well at all. Both albums came out around the same time. So fast forward, Billy was in a gay film called "The Broken Hearts Club: A Romantic Comedy". There was a scene where his character's boyfriend cheats on him and Billy's character finds out and tells his friends at his friend's birthday party. His friends try to console him by trying to put on some consoling album of love songs and someone suggests Celine Dion and he yells with disgust "In Hell"! And that was his way of getting back or expressing himself for what Celine's album did to his.

[Chantemoi]

 

 

Why is he bitter and all? It's not as if Celine "stole" his spotlight. Billy released the song first and it went nowhere. So basically that's the end of it. Now Celine basically COVERS him and the song gets renewed interest and probably more people (like me) got to know Billy because of the Celine connection.

 

That’s exactly what I was thinking… I’ve known Billy’s name for 2 decades, only because I knew his version of the song CÉLINE sang. And all this time, I thought he was the songwriter! I’m shocked he’d have this attitude about a song he didn’t even write…

[Davey84]

 

 

Just read this YT comment, dont know if this is true:

 

 

 

@papindabx

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Just a bit of information I know about this song, Billy Porter & Celine Dion. Billy first recorded this song and was part of the "The First Wives Club" movie and soundtrack. His team and of course Billy were hoping this great song would help propel his album and him as a solo artist going mainstream. The album is amazing. I still have it and listen to it to this day. I highly recommend it....Then Celine Dion recorded it for her album "Let's Talk About Love" and her album skyrocketed in sales etc. while Billy's album didn't do well at all. Both albums came out around the same time. So fast forward, Billy was in a gay film called "The Broken Hearts Club: A Romantic Comedy". There was a scene where his character's boyfriend cheats on him and Billy's character finds out and tells his friends at his friend's birthday party. His friends try to console him by trying to put on some consoling album of love songs and someone suggests Celine Dion and he yells with disgust "In Hell"! And that was his way of getting back or expressing himself for what Celine's album did to his.

 

 

But.... but..... LTAL wasn't the big succes it was because of LIOTW!?!

 

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[celinesounds]

 

 

What? Lol

 

Many artists don’t know their rights, that’s all…

 

This story seems like Mariahs story about divas live 98

 

He is trying to find many excuses for his flop

[Taking Chances]

That's exactly what I was thinking… I've known Billy's name for 2 decades, only because I knew his version of the song CÉLINE sang. And all this time, I thought he was the songwriter! I'm shocked he'd have this attitude about a song he didn't even write…

 

I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday when I read he wasn't the writer. I found out about Billy's version a few years ago. I used to think Love Is On The Way was an original Celine song as I've only ever known this song as a Celine song. What surprised me even more is that Billy Porter is the same dude that wears crazy outfits to red carpets and stuff. I never thought that was the same Billy who sang Love Is On The Way. I didn't even know he was a singer. I thought he was some fashion guy.

 

To me Love is On The Way will always be a Celine song. Especially now after I found out Billy wasn't even the writer after making such a fuss.

[souriredezora]

I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday when I read he wasn't the writer. I found out about Billy's version a few years ago. I used to think Love Is On The Way was an original Celine song as I've only ever known this song as a Celine song. What surprised me even more is that Billy Porter is the same dude that wears crazy outfits to red carpets and stuff. I never thought that was the same Billy who sang Love Is On The Way. I didn't even know he was a singer. I thought he was some fashion guy.

 

To me Love is On The Way will always be a Celine song. Especially now after I found out Billy wasn't even the writer after making such a fuss.

 

yeah me too!!

i always thought was Celine's song too (i love this song a lot!)

 

then i heard a male voice version of this song in this movie...

 

 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116313/

i thought it was the cover of Celine's song, not the other way around lol

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anyway, i love both versions

 

i don't know much about Billy Porter but read somewhere in a recent article that he was pissed off bc how music industry worked, NOT bc of Celine, he said he loves Celine....

[souriredezora]

Agree, however if he'd read his contract he would have known that any of his songs were fair game to be doled out to bigger artists. That's how the industry works. Though I do feel his pain - it must suck to have your "big break" passed off to an artist who has already "made it". Bet he's not complaining about those royalty checks though… I'm sure they went a long way improving Billy's quality of life.

 

I feel like bc Celine covered the songs at some point in her career it made these songs really famous and beautiful;

like I drove all night, Power of love, When i need you.

I never knew they were covers, and then I listened to the original and it was like nah...

[MaiconSC]

this Billy guy is ambiguous... in that article he says he won't be part of the industry anymore...

but this year he released an album ???????

he was in musical movies, he was on Broadway I think.... he does shows...

so what? what does he want?

 

if I remember well, years ago he was already talking about this episode with Celine. He even told that Celine sent him flowers, but when he got home the flowers were already dead (???)

He's a drama queen, and he wants attention (special now that he has a new album)

[ryba]

Of course he tells all this for attention. Dropping Celines name is always good for publicity. That’s why I don’t pay too much attention to that

[MaiconSC]

I mean he wrote the english version for Celine... I didn't knew he recorded it too!

 

here he talks about it (43:52):

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZtqP1Ca8YQ

 

p.s.: they show a performance of Everything I Do that I never saw before... wish we would have it in full

WOW so much footage from Chicago - which is proof enough to me that they filmed the entire show. Would have been nice to release it for the anniversary…

 

She said the clip of "Everything I Do…" is from Cannes - supposing that's from her FIY tour. Love the 1996 versions more than the 1999 one. Her "I'd die for you" line and the final "…for you" are sublime!

Yes! but her costumes in this duet doesn't seem from the regular shows... maybe it was an event they both were at...

her vocals are amazing!

 

I love the footage from Chicago... isn't the S'il suffisait d'aimer live videoclip from that show also?

Perhaps this special concert?

https://www.celinedi...-edition-midem/

 

 

 

Yep! It was also the concert which I believe many fans consider her best LTAL Tour vocal of MHWGO, which we've heard in bootleg audio. And as a former Chicago resident, I'd especially love to see it!

 

** Edit: come to think of it, can anyone identify the performance they used in the opening of the Un An Avec doc? Is that vocal from Chicago, too?

 

Well, I came months later to confirm that you're right about the MIDEM event...

 

here in this video they talk about it, as they are in the backstage of the event (25:20 mark):

 

 

they told they only filmed a bit, but I hardly doubt they don't have a full footage!

 

here in this link we can see the duet with Jean Jacques-Goldman from that same concert:

 

BONUS archives France 3 - Céline Dion en 1996 | BONUS VIDEO de nos archives Céline Dion et Jean-Jacques Goldman au Midem 1996 à Cannes... Céline sera en concert ce soir à Marseille, puis jeudi à Nice... | By France 3 Côte d'Azur | Facebook

[Abodi2002]

 

 

Hmmm I’ve never seen that one either!

 

I am in the middle of watching this doc for the first time, and it’s super fascinating! For example: I was floored when Julie asked her what she did in Amsterdam during her downtime and she said she went walking in the “red light” district - then Céline gave her two cents about legalized prostitution! Such a topic would never have been broached in an English interview (unless the interviewer was making fun of the topic).

 

Also seeing her impression of René and teasing him with such an attitude was 1) very funny and 2) reminded me of the kind of sass she started showing in English interviews more recently (remember when she flipped the middle finger to that reporter?! ).

 

And to see a pro-shot of « Terre » was cool, too. I wonder what show that was from?

Lol I know I’m late but that MHWGO performance in the beginning of that documentary you asked about was Divas live, at least the audio was. There was a Montreal one dubbed with Divas live, not sure that’s it though.

[MaiconSC]

Lol I know I'm late but that MHWGO performance in the beginning of that documentary you asked about was Divas live, at least the audio was. There was a Montreal one dubbed with Divas live, not sure that's it though.

 

Yes, the audio is from Divas Live, but the video is a collection of many performances, and there's one specific that I can't find anywhere...

[Celine Fan 77]

25th Anniversary Expanded edition for “Let’s Talk About Love” for you all. Includes live versions, remixes, rare tracks and a demo version.

 

 

[CelinesDIVO5]

25th Anniversary Expanded edition for “Let’s Talk About Love” for you all. Includes live versions, remixes, rare tracks and a demo version.

 

 

The Bee Gees demo was a nice treat! I didn’t know that existed.

[Chantemoi]

 

 

The Bee Gees demo was a nice treat! I didn’t know that existed.

 

Part of their Greatest Hits CD

[isurrender]

I've just heard about "Billy Porter's case" ( I'm a bit late , I know ).

 

For whatever reasons, he is bitter. But his story doesn't make any sense to me.

 

It's a pity that now some people believe that Céline stole from him...

 

The funniest thing about all this that I've never read anywhere is that he released in 2005 his cover of "Only one road" ( written by P.Zizzo as well)... so he doesn't seem to be bothered when it's the other way around...

 

At the end of the day, it would be all about racism, or being gay....but again, wrong point in this case. Sure, it's easier to make it in the US when you're not American !

And back then even English artists struggled ... Let alone non english speakers.

[CelinesDIVO5]

I've just heard about "Billy Porter's case" ( I'm a bit late , I know ).

 

For whatever reasons, he is bitter. But his story doesn't make any sense to me.

 

It's a pity that now some people believe that Céline stole from him...

 

The funniest thing about all this that I've never read anywhere is that he released in 2005 his cover of "Only one road" ( written by P.Zizzo as well)... so he doesn't seem to be bothered when it's the other way around...

 

At the end of the day, it would be all about racism, or being gay....but again, wrong point in this case. Sure, it's easier to make it in the US when you're not American !

And back then even English artists struggled ... Let alone non english speakers.

 

Billy Porter’s story is annoying. Celine recorded the song. It didn’t fit for FIY, but did fit for LTAL. Billy released it as a single. Celine did not. It was an album track. It did not overshadow Billy’s release in the slightest. Billy’s just wasn’t that great.

[MaiconSC]

Billy Porter's story is annoying. Celine recorded the song. It didn't fit for FIY, but did fit for LTAL. Billy released it as a single. Celine did not. It was an album track. It did not overshadow Billy's release in the slightest. Billy's just wasn't that great.

 

He even sang it live on TV, his version was part of a movie soundtrack....

Celine's version is only on her album and was sang on limited concert dates, which we don't even have official footage...

 

what more does he want????

[ryba]

He even sang it live on TV, his version was part of a movie soundtrack....

Celine's version is only on her album and was sang on limited concert dates, which we don't even have official footage...

 

what more does he want????

publicity... It's always good to drop a big name like Celine

[AllaneZ]

Billie is an insufferable person, I wouldn't pay any attention to him.

[AllaneZ]

I mean, he should feel honored

 

‘I did not come here to be a demo singer for f---ing Céline Dion! I’m done!’

 

he's a flop, and trying to drag anyone down with him

[jpatdeleon09]

25th Anniversary Expanded edition for "Let's Talk About Love" for you all. Includes live versions, remixes, rare tracks and a demo version.

 

https://open.spotify...=e-HKCkjSFRTkCT

 

oh my god at first i thought it was miss piggy who is singing. I played the Immortality Demo Version. My first time hearing this.

[ewh12]

Interesting Podcast where they review the highest selling albums. Here they review LTAL!

 

 

[smw]

 

Just watched this fabulous concert. Her voice is sublime on most of the songs.

 

Question: Which is the best LTAL World Tour English concert? If her team were to do an official release, which city should it be?

 

Also, watching this concert reminded me of what a big song I’m Your Angel is and what a bummer it is that R Kelly ended up being a sick person. It’s one of Celine’s rare #1 hits in the US. So it was really a huge song in her career.

 

https://www.billboard.com/artist/celine-dion/chart-history/hsi/

 

Edited July 15, 2024 at 09:30 PM by smw

[DCCeline]

 

Just watched this fabulous concert. Her voice is sublime on most of the songs.

 

Question: Which is the best LTAL World Tour English concert? If her team were to do an official release, which city should it be?

 

Also, watching this concert reminded me of what a big song I’m Your Angel is and what a bummer it is that R Kelly ended up being a sick person. It’s one of Celine’s rare #1 hits in the US. So it was really a huge song in her career.

 

https://www.billboard.com/artist/celine-dion/chart-history/hsi/

 

For me NYC is the best, I said it before I think, because her vocals are great. It has ABM and not a lipped TPOL. Most importantly, the screams from the crowd is deafening. Listen to MYWGO for example.

[Abodi2002]

For me vocally Anaheim and Chicago are best, but I would prefer another August or early September 1998 concert for the fact that Love Is On The Way was included. We know parts of Madison Square Garden were performed. We have enough English bootlegs that I would like a Montreal 1998 show, I believe Montreal would be a lot better than Paris vocally. Edited July 16, 2024 at 12:50 AM by Abodi2002

[LukeD]

The Japanese version of ''Be The Man'' is outstanding - better than the English IMO. It feels like the song was originally supposed to be sung this way. Really, really beautiful.