browseceline Posted November 15, 2012 at 07:44 AM Posted November 15, 2012 at 07:44 AM (edited) Celine and Whitney, in my opinion are the two greatest singers in recent history. I agree, Whitney was stunning...but Celine had her own moments of vocal AWESOMENESS. Even in the 80s while Whitney was making herself famous worldwide, Celine showed an unmatched vocal beauty and skill.For those interested in the Whitney-Celine debate more largely (I think just comparing them in the 80s is fascinating), Celine is a strong contender. CAN WE EVER FORGET THIS: Celine's earth-shattering performance. 1:43, 2:18, 2:41 on, but really 3:11 on are just incredible. From what I know ( read on this forum) that performance was not live.. Edited November 15, 2012 at 07:45 AM by browseceline Quote <iframe width="640" height="390" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hl2XkxnYljg" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Julian Posted November 15, 2012 at 09:58 AM Posted November 15, 2012 at 09:58 AM You can not judge who had the best voice, this depends on the taste of each person. But what you have do admit is that Whitney Houston was musically much more intresting than Celine. The progress that she has done, from the Albums in the pre 95 years, after the 95 years and then in the 2000 years was not bad! Basicly, Celine, Mariah and Whitney had almost the same music style. Whitney went into the queen of RnB (and beyond), Mariah went into the queen of (help me?!) and Celine is still the same. This can be good or bad, i love her, but for not fans i think Celine is not that intresting. The thing that i am the most proud of is Celines french career. And this is why i love her for! Sorry for my mistakes, it has been a while that i wrote in english. Quote
justinecoria Posted November 15, 2012 at 10:48 AM Posted November 15, 2012 at 10:48 AM (edited) From what I know ( read on this forum) that performance was not live..I'm quite positive this performance was live (and I think I know when she lips). They took this performance to put on the album.Noone can lipsync that perfectly to each breath (from 2'30, to 2'45), especially on a alledged one-time prerecorded tape. Her belt close to the end (which is not on the album version) blends so much in the rest. She says "Merci, Thank you" in the end. She just doesn't do her lipsync mimics, and does her live-singing mimics. And I wouldn't think they would risk Celine talking about how many days she was quiet before the performance if it was lipsync. Edited November 15, 2012 at 11:01 AM by justinecoria Quote
garçon Posted November 15, 2012 at 11:32 AM Posted November 15, 2012 at 11:32 AM Quick preface: Like us all, I am obsessed with Celine Dion, not Whitney Houston. But… I agree with a lot of what's getting said about Whitney and Celine in this thread. Whitney Houston, at her vocal prime, was technically perfect. Celine is also an untouchable voice in this industry. If you stood them side by side at their prime, I think Celine could take Whitney in some areas, but as far as sheer vocal clarity and power -- Whitney would've taken Celine overall. And that's okay! Whitney did not take care of her instrument. And Celine absolutely has. Even by the time Whitney recorded The Bodyguard songs, her voice was beginning to strain. But, prior to that...wow. Don't watch this video with preconceived judgement. This is a video of Whitney before the English speaking world even knew of Celine. Just watch in awe of Whitney's sheer vocal power and ease as she glides into the notes: Also, I absolutely agree that Celine should lip synch at some of her appearances/concerts. We saw what happened to Whitney. Whitney never lipped, which was commendable -- but her voice was fried by the end. (Granted, other factors helped that along too.) Whitney's mother said when she was born the doctor told her that Whitney may not be able to ever speak… she then became one of the vocalists of all time... and then lost her voice by the end. Celine's voice is also fragile. It's ridiculous to say "Celine's a singer. That's what she does. She should always sing live at every concert and appearance." She has one of the greatest voices of all time, why in the world would she push her voice on days when it's fragile??? It would be idiotic to strain something so precious to this world. It's a genuine gift. It's why we are all here, discussing her in the first place! If she wants to protect her gift, then that's what she should do. Can you imagine if she really did sing The Power of Love live every night in Vegas? She would not have a voice anymore. Just compare videos of Whitney in the early days to Whitney at the end. It's astonishing and unbelievably sad to see such a gift tainted. Celine will not make that mistake. And it's not just about the money. She is in demand. We want to see her. She is a brand. She employs a lot of people. She has albums to promote. And when she is scheduled to be seen, people expect her to sing. It's not so cut and dry. People are oblivious... I rarely add comments on this nice forum, however I just have to endorse this perfect recap of the whole lip-synch problem (Although I was surprised to find out she has -often- sung the Bond-medley live..). Quote
browseceline Posted November 15, 2012 at 04:12 PM Posted November 15, 2012 at 04:12 PM about the Celine should lip synch to preserve her voice, I agree to some extend, but you cannot say that Whitney's voice became like this because she always sang live. We all know Whitney did not take care of her voice because she used drugs in a very early stadium of her career. So she ruined her voice and in the end she was not able to sing like she used to sing.I agree that when you have to do a large amount of songs each and every night, that some of them will be lipped. But I do not agree if more than 70 percent of a concert is lipped. We pay a lot to hear the artist live, otherwise we might as well listen to her cd's. Quote <iframe width="640" height="390" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hl2XkxnYljg" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
PuraVida Posted November 15, 2012 at 11:31 PM Posted November 15, 2012 at 11:31 PM From what I know ( read on this forum) that performance was not live.. Whether it was or not (I've always leaned towards possibility it isn't) doesn't mean anything...it's still a vocal that even Whitney would be hardpressed to match! Quote
Celine Fan 77 Posted November 16, 2012 at 07:01 AM Author Posted November 16, 2012 at 07:01 AM SO the big day has finally come! Any way for non-american fans to watch it online? Quote Tournée Européenne in Paris (December 1, 2013)Céline Dion Live 2016 in Antwerp (June 20, 2016)Céline Dion Live 2017 in Birmingham (July 27, 2017)
Duchess Posted November 16, 2012 at 07:51 AM Posted November 16, 2012 at 07:51 AM From what I know ( read on this forum) that performance was not live.. if you listen from about 3.50 onwards you can hear the echo in the mic. i think this was a live performance of this song. during the song you can hear echoes as well. Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/Duchess_Nicol/flower20cropped.jpg
CelinesDIVO5 Posted November 16, 2012 at 08:26 AM Posted November 16, 2012 at 08:26 AM if you listen from about 3.50 onwards you can hear the echo in the mic. i think this was a live performance of this song. during the song you can hear echoes as well. you've seen the whole performance?!?!??! Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
browseceline Posted November 16, 2012 at 08:34 AM Posted November 16, 2012 at 08:34 AM (edited) He is talking about celine singing.the power of the dream during the olympic ceremony in atlanta. i have been told on this forum..although i thought that it was live, that it wasn't Edited November 16, 2012 at 08:36 AM by browseceline Quote <iframe width="640" height="390" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hl2XkxnYljg" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Celine Fan 77 Posted November 16, 2012 at 08:36 AM Author Posted November 16, 2012 at 08:36 AM you've seen the whole performance?!?!??! She's talking about Celine's performance at the 1996 Atlanta Olympic Games. By the way, here's an exclusive 1-minute-preview of Celine's performance of Greatest Love Of All for tonight's CBS special: CLICK TO WATCH :w00t: Quote Tournée Européenne in Paris (December 1, 2013)Céline Dion Live 2016 in Antwerp (June 20, 2016)Céline Dion Live 2017 in Birmingham (July 27, 2017)
browseceline Posted November 16, 2012 at 08:40 AM Posted November 16, 2012 at 08:40 AM (edited) Thank you. sounds and looks prerecorded. she sang the notes shorter btw and she did not.blew me away yet. also found that the backgroundmusic was too soft. should have been louder. but iamquite sure that this is lipped Edited November 16, 2012 at 08:42 AM by browseceline Quote <iframe width="640" height="390" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hl2XkxnYljg" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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browseceline Posted November 16, 2012 at 08:49 AM Posted November 16, 2012 at 08:49 AM The part in.anyones shadows sounds like she had trouble saying it right. I prefer whitney's versipn. celines version lacks emotion and i even hear her french accent too much. i think it was not the best choice. but that is my opinion Quote <iframe width="640" height="390" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hl2XkxnYljg" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
PuraVida Posted November 16, 2012 at 09:53 AM Posted November 16, 2012 at 09:53 AM (edited) She's talking about Celine's performance at the 1996 Atlanta Olympic Games. By the way, here's an exclusive 1-minute-preview of Celine's performance of Greatest Love Of All for tonight's CBS special: CLICK TO WATCH :w00t: He As for the preview....sounds lipped. The prerecording sounds too produced and altered....and is also underwhelming. She could have sang it better live; it sounded as though she was restraining herself vocally. Edited November 16, 2012 at 09:55 AM by PuraVida Quote
Matias Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:17 AM Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:17 AM she did it at the Sans attendre special.... Quote http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maic6m257V1rbfceqo2_250.gif"No no, put it back..."
wjd Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:18 AM Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:18 AM For F sake - she has to reach the bridge yet, this is like the build up - I'm sure the last 90 seconds will be even more fantastic than the 60 seconds we've just heard. Quote Céline Dion, music's greatest ever singer, the biggest-selling Canadian artist of all-time and most successful female live act ever - what's not to love?
anewdayhascome Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:34 AM Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:34 AM I hope so because so far for me it's a boooooring song no matter if it's live or playback Quote A New Day... 10th & 11th November 2006 Taking Chances World Tour, Antwerp 13th & 14th May 2008, Kraków 28th June 2008 Celine 25th & 27th & 31st August 2013 20th, 23rd, 24th, 27th & 28th September 2016 Sans attendre Tour, Paris 1st & 5th December 2013 Encore un soir, Paris 24th, 25th, 28th, 29th June & 2nd, 3rd, 6th, 7th, 9th July 2016 Live 2017 Stockholm 17th June 2017 Lille 1st & 2nd July 2017 Paris 8th & 9th July 2017 Berlin 23rd & 24th July 2017 Live 2018 Taipei 11th & 13th July 2018 Manila 19th July 2018 Bangkok 23rd July 2018 BST Hyde Park London 5 July 2019
browseceline Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:34 AM Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:34 AM He As for the preview....sounds lipped. The prerecording sounds too produced and altered....and is also underwhelming. She could have sang it better live; it sounded as though she was restraining herself vocally. Yes! that is what I heard as well! I think it has been autotuned or maybe melodyne has been used to make the vocal better, although you can hear that there was worked on the vocal afterwards. She could have easily sang this better live and she also could have reached a higher pitch. This one was quite low Quote <iframe width="640" height="390" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hl2XkxnYljg" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
WaterFromTheMoon Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:46 AM Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:46 AM You guys are so ridiculous, you didnt even hear the whole song but immediately you start complaining -.- Quote
browseceline Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:49 AM Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:49 AM no it is not ridiculous. We just give our opinion. And it is clear that this was prerecorded lipped and also postproduced in studio. What is wrong with saying that? I loved her Sans Attendre special, that was perfect. But this just lacks something... Okay I haven't heard the complete song yet but judging from this 1 minute preview I already have my point of view. Quote <iframe width="640" height="390" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hl2XkxnYljg" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
wjd Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:53 AM Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:53 AM no it is not ridiculous. We just give our opinion. And it is clear that this was prerecorded lipped and also postproduced in studio. What is wrong with saying that? I loved her Sans Attendre special, that was perfect. But this just lacks something... Okay I haven't heard the complete song yet but judging from this 1 minute preview I already have my point of view. No, it is ridiculous - you are ridiculous. You've heard 25% of a song - complained about the pitch, the arrangement, the volume of the backing track, the vocals, the lipping, the emotion, the use of autotune. We get it - you don't like it. BYE. Quote Céline Dion, music's greatest ever singer, the biggest-selling Canadian artist of all-time and most successful female live act ever - what's not to love?
WaterFromTheMoon Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:58 AM Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:58 AM No, it is ridiculous - you are ridiculous. You've heard 25% of a song - complained about the pitch, the arrangement, the volume of the backing track, the vocals, the lipping, the emotion, the use of autotune. We get it - you don't like it. BYE. Well said!!! Quote
browseceline Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:11 AM Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:11 AM (edited) Some people in here cannot hear someone's opinion and immediately I am ridiculous or a hater pff. Always the same in here. I just give my opinion. Fine if you like it and I did not. But then to be that rude and say BYE... come on get a life. I love Celine and I love her special from last time. and I did not like this performance, that is just my opinion. That's all. You have yours I have mine! Edited November 16, 2012 at 11:12 AM by browseceline Quote <iframe width="640" height="390" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hl2XkxnYljg" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
justinecoria Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:21 AM Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:21 AM (edited) Seems like one drawback of singing playback is that she can do the same moves in every song. I think we already know how she will do the playback big note in the end... Edited November 16, 2012 at 11:23 AM by justinecoria Quote
DionFanAlways Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:24 AM Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:24 AM Some people in here cannot hear someone's opinion and immediately I am ridiculous or a hater pff. Always the same in here. I just give my opinion. Fine if you like it and I did not. But then to be that rude and say BYE... come on get a life. I love Celine and I love her special from last time. and I did not like this performance, that is just my opinion. That's all. You have yours I have mine!Yes sometimes people get their panties in a wad! I see nothing wrong with your comment! Quote I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
browseceline Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:29 AM Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:29 AM Yes sometimes people get their panties in a wad! I see nothing wrong with your comment! thank you very much ! I love Celine and her voice is amazing and I was blown away by her last performances on Sans Attendre and it even gave me tears when she sang for her mum. She sang so beautiful and full of emotion. In this one minute of the greatest love I just miss every emotion, it is sung without emotion. It is just...not what I hoped to hear. Even if it has been prerecorded, I hoped the prerecorded version would have been better than this. You cannot always be okay with everything. I work with music a lot and with audio , so I can easily hear when the sound has been altered, like it was the case in here unfortunately. Quote <iframe width="640" height="390" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hl2XkxnYljg" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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Javito Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:52 AM Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:52 AM I've become used now to getting six of one and half a dozen of the other when it comes to Céline these days. This is not my favourite song of Whitney either, but I'll wait to watch the entire performance to have an opinion. Personally I've been delighted to what I've seen of the Sans Attendre promo and the live performances to this date, so if it has to arrive one playback song here and there, I guess that's inevitable. But I'm glad its done here and not in the promo of the french album. That's HER album, and this is a tribute to other singer, a unique and special ocassion. If she's doing playback, I can bear with that, it's not her song. But so happy she's respecting her new songs today, let's continue that path please! Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
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