DionFanAlways Posted February 21, 2014 at 08:29 PM Posted February 21, 2014 at 08:29 PM Well if ever i get back to LV i'll have a word to Patrick, but i doubt i'll get there this year. He always talks about "reworking" the show.Any other ideas?? lolMaybe he is always shot down by Rene and company? Quote I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
SuperLove4Celine Posted February 21, 2014 at 09:11 PM Posted February 21, 2014 at 09:11 PM Well if ever i get back to LV i'll have a word to Patrick, but i doubt i'll get there this year. He always talks about "reworking" the show.Any other ideas?? lol I have many. LOL Quote
CelineDionFreak Posted February 21, 2014 at 09:26 PM Posted February 21, 2014 at 09:26 PM I have a bunch of ideas, but they'd probably be expensive ideas 1 Quote I didn't know love until they loved me back to life because somebody loves somebody!Le temps qui compte pour Celine est maintenant!
Peppercorn1991 Posted February 22, 2014 at 01:59 AM Posted February 22, 2014 at 01:59 AM I'd love to hear I want you to need me! That would be something special! Kev x 2 Quote
chocolatechip15 Posted February 22, 2014 at 05:24 AM Posted February 22, 2014 at 05:24 AM Are we talking about IWYTNM??? If so - agree with you. Never been one of my favourites! Could work in LV if it was a stripped down version - acoustic and not belted out. Then she could sing it live etc. I'd love for NMQP to be replaced with Ce N'etait Qu'un Reve. Then they could use footage from her french career (MVs, concerts etc), and also use the footage of her singing the song through the years - MV 1981, TCOML concert, even Millennium concert.TCOML would be a great addition - perhaps instead of Lullaby. They could then still use family footage, and Celine & Rene footage. I'm not a big fan of IWYTNM either. The lyrics are trite, the melody uninspired and sounding like many other Diane Warren songs, and it's sung with very little emotion. (Celine sings it with intensity, sure, but intensity is different from emotion). And I doubt they'll ever include this song because most people don't know it, and I don't think Celine has much of an emotional connection with it. I think Celine is tired of CNQUR - she's sung it so many times for so long. But I would love to see TCOML again, too, even if she just did a one-off performance near their 20th anniversary. She had so many lovely performances of it in '93-'94, and then never again. And it's her wedding song! 1 Quote
mduk86 Posted February 22, 2014 at 12:46 PM Posted February 22, 2014 at 12:46 PM I'm not a huge fan of IWYTONM, I'd love to hear her sing "The Greatest Reward" That's just my personal opinion, I listen to it all the time in my car and think that it would sound amazing live x 1 Quote
mduk86 Posted February 22, 2014 at 12:47 PM Posted February 22, 2014 at 12:47 PM Ignore the "O" in IWYTNM lol x Quote
SuperLove4Celine Posted February 22, 2014 at 07:58 PM Posted February 22, 2014 at 07:58 PM Maybe he is always shot down by Rene and company? I think this is pretty close to if not totally accurate about what's going on. Heck, Celine had to practically fight tooth and nail just to get "The Reason" "allowed-approved" to go into HER show. Truly unfortunate. 1 Quote
SuperLove4Celine Posted February 22, 2014 at 08:03 PM Posted February 22, 2014 at 08:03 PM I'm not a big fan of IWYTNM either. The lyrics are trite, the melody uninspired and sounding like many other Diane Warren songs, and it's sung with very little emotion. (Celine sings it with intensity, sure, but intensity is different from emotion). And I doubt they'll ever include this song because most people don't know it, and I don't think Celine has much of an emotional connection with it. I think Celine is tired of CNQUR - she's sung it so many times for so long. But I would love to see TCOML again, too, even if she just did a one-off performance near their 20th anniversary. She had so many lovely performances of it in '93-'94, and then never again. And it's her wedding song! While I'm not a huge fan of "I Want You To Need Me" either, I do think the song belongs in her current show. One thing many people go to a Celine concert for IS the intensity of her vocals. She, herself, has even stated before she only sings "All By Myself" because it shows of her vocal ability, not because she has a personal connection to it. Even with that being said, audiences still usually eat up her performances of the song anyway. The same could be said for "I Want You To Need Me." Perhaps "I Want You To Need Me" could go in the spot of "All By Myself" instead of being the show's opener. That one section of the show could simply be where she shows off her vocals instead of telling a story, per se. Either way, I still think with its intensity, heavy orchestral arrangement and classic Celine ballad sound, "I Want You To Need Me" would fit flawlessly into "Celine." 1 Quote
chocolatechip15 Posted February 23, 2014 at 03:38 AM Posted February 23, 2014 at 03:38 AM While I'm not a huge fan of "I Want You To Need Me" either, I do think the song belongs in her current show. One thing many people go to a Celine concert for IS the intensity of her vocals. She, herself, has even stated before she only sings "All By Myself" because it shows of her vocal ability, not because she has a personal connection to it. Even with that being said, audiences still usually eat up her performances of the song anyway. The same could be said for "I Want You To Need Me." Perhaps "I Want You To Need Me" could go in the spot of "All By Myself" instead of being the show's opener. That one section of the show could simply be where she shows off her vocals instead of telling a story, per se. Either way, I still think with its intensity, heavy orchestral arrangement and classic Celine ballad sound, "I Want You To Need Me" would fit flawlessly into "Celine." I understand about havng a song purely for the vocal performance -- but ABM still works marvelously for that purpose - audiences still go crazy for it. And it's well-known as a Celine song. But IWYTNM isn't well-known at all beyond hard-core fans. So the average person going to see a Celine show in Vegas is going to prefer ABM, and it makes sense for them to keep doing it. I get the frustration of fans who'd love to hear other songs in Celine's repertoire performed live. But I understand why Celine and her team stick mostly with well-known songs (whether Celine's or covers of other's songs) -- because that's what the majority of the audience wants to hear. And Celine has always tried very hard to please. 4 Quote
SuperLove4Celine Posted February 23, 2014 at 07:27 AM Posted February 23, 2014 at 07:27 AM I understand about havng a song purely for the vocal performance -- but ABM still works marvelously for that purpose - audiences still go crazy for it. And it's well-known as a Celine song. But IWYTNM isn't well-known at all beyond hard-core fans. So the average person going to see a Celine show in Vegas is going to prefer ABM, and it makes sense for them to keep doing it. I get the frustration of fans who'd love to hear other songs in Celine's repertoire performed live. But I understand why Celine and her team stick mostly with well-known songs (whether Celine's or covers of other's songs) -- because that's what the majority of the audience wants to hear. And Celine has always tried very hard to please. I don't agree with the above statement in bold at all. Every single person I've ever talked to outside of the hardcore fan demographic has always told me they'd like to hear and see Celine perform songs of her own. Granted, it's usually "Because You Loved Me" or "My Heart Will Go On," but I do sometimes get a "That's The Way It Is" or an "I'm Alive." Not once have I ever had someone tell me, "You know, Joe, if I were to go see Celine, I hope she covers 'How Do You Keep The Music Playing' or 'Open Arms.'" 1 Quote
Timster Posted February 23, 2014 at 10:57 AM Posted February 23, 2014 at 10:57 AM I don't agree with the above statement in bold at all. Every single person I've ever talked to outside of the hardcore fan demographic has always told me they'd like to hear and see Celine perform songs of her own. Granted, it's usually "Because You Loved Me" or "My Heart Will Go On," but I do sometimes get a "That's The Way It Is" or an "I'm Alive." Not once have I ever had someone tell me, "You know, Joe, if I were to go see Celine, I hope she covers 'How Do You Keep The Music Playing' or 'Open Arms.'" This is why I think Celine should be taking some tips from Shania's show. Shania has a setlist of 18 ORIGINAL songs. All of them are performed in their full length, and some even have extended instrumental parts! Furthermore, each segment of her show has a clear theme, and her outfits are based on the looks from her classic music videos such as 'I'm Gonna Getcha Good', 'That Don't Impress Me Much' and 'Man! I Feel Like A Woman!'. She also has a camp-fire segment where she invites audience members up on stage to sing a medley of songs with her. It's a very personal show, as it's all her own music, and she is so connected with her audience. Although the show hasn't sold out as much as 'Celine' has, I admire Shania for sticking to her own vision with her own music, and not including loads of covers to appeal to non-fans for the sake of ticket sales. 5 Quote
chocolatechip15 Posted February 23, 2014 at 03:23 PM Posted February 23, 2014 at 03:23 PM (edited) I don't agree with the above statement in bold at all. Every single person I've ever talked to outside of the hardcore fan demographic has always told me they'd like to hear and see Celine perform songs of her own. Granted, it's usually "Because You Loved Me" or "My Heart Will Go On," but I do sometimes get a "That's The Way It Is" or an "I'm Alive." Not once have I ever had someone tell me, "You know, Joe, if I were to go see Celine, I hope she covers 'How Do You Keep The Music Playing' or 'Open Arms.'" I'm not saying people go in saying they want to hear Celine perform certain covers, and of course she needs a core of her own songs -- but if it were a choice between a song they'd never heard of (for many casual fans, this would probably include IWYTNM) and a song they know and like (like Open Arms or Lullabye) -- they'd choose the song they know. People generally much prefer hearing songs they know when they see them live, because it takes time to get to know a song. Edited February 23, 2014 at 03:23 PM by chocolatechip15 2 Quote
ehild Posted February 23, 2014 at 04:04 PM Posted February 23, 2014 at 04:04 PM This is why I think Celine should be taking some tips from Shania's show. Shania has a setlist of 18 ORIGINAL songs. All of them are performed in their full length, and some even have extended instrumental parts! Furthermore, each segment of her show has a clear theme, and her outfits are based on the looks from her classic music videos such as 'I'm Gonna Getcha Good', 'That Don't Impress Me Much' and 'Man! I Feel Like A Woman!'. She also has a camp-fire segment where she invites audience members up on stage to sing a medley of songs with her. It's a very personal show, as it's all her own music, and she is so connected with her audience. Although the show hasn't sold out as much as 'Celine' has, I admire Shania for sticking to her own vision with her own music, and not including loads of covers to appeal to non-fans for the sake of ticket sales. Could you imagine if Celine invited people up on stage with her!! I wonder who the lucky fans would be and how'd they go about choosing? Seriously, we'd all keep going back time and time again hoping to sing with her!! 4 Quote ~Liz"Please don't make your career your life. Let it be your passion, let it bring you pleasure, but don't let it become your identity. You are so much more valuable than that." -Celine
SuperLove4Celine Posted February 23, 2014 at 06:48 PM Posted February 23, 2014 at 06:48 PM I'm not saying people go in saying they want to hear Celine perform certain covers, and of course she needs a core of her own songs -- but if it were a choice between a song they'd never heard of (for many casual fans, this would probably include IWYTNM) and a song they know and like (like Open Arms or Lullabye) -- they'd choose the song they know. People generally much prefer hearing songs they know when they see them live, because it takes time to get to know a song. I agree with you to an extent. The problem, though, is that people can only discover a new or a "new-to-them" Celine song if they are introduced to it in the first place. That can be either by way of radio, YouTube, a concert, Pandora, etc. Someone may leave "Celine" having a new appreciation and respect for her if they are introduced to Celine originals such as "I Want You To Need Me," "Then You Look At Me," "That's The Way It Is," etc. By incorporating more of Celine's own material into her show, people will start to get to know her better as an artist, and potentially as a person. Performing songs that have been covered time and time again rarely demonstrate any insight into a person's artistry. It is when they are willing to showcase something new and original that they are truly baring their soul. That's my two cents, anyway. 2 Quote
LukeD Posted February 23, 2014 at 10:07 PM Posted February 23, 2014 at 10:07 PM Exactly, even the title "Celine" shows the lack of direction and creativeness. There are so many great names they could have given it...I like the title itself, it's really simple and self-centered, the best chance to sum up her discography would be in a show called 'Celine'. Too bad the setlist doesn't reflect who she is. 3 Quote
LukeD Posted February 23, 2014 at 10:23 PM Posted February 23, 2014 at 10:23 PM (edited) When I read LMBTL was not performed I smiled. It was the kind of 'I KNEW IT!' smile. The song flopped bad and it doesn't fit the show in the slightest. I'm not surprised at all. Edited February 23, 2014 at 10:23 PM by LukeD 1 Quote
SuperLove4Celine Posted February 24, 2014 at 12:26 AM Posted February 24, 2014 at 12:26 AM To remove a song without putting something in its place is just wrong, in my opinion. At the very least, put "Rolling In The Deep" or the M.J. medley back in until they can figure out what the heck they're doing. Ugh! 3 Quote
DionFanAlways Posted February 24, 2014 at 12:58 AM Posted February 24, 2014 at 12:58 AM To remove a song without putting something in its place is just wrong, in my opinion. At the very least, put "Rolling In The Deep" or the M.J. medley back in until they can figure out what the heck they're doing. Ugh!That's what I'm saying! Agreed 1000 %! 2 Quote I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
nuts2you Posted February 24, 2014 at 01:07 AM Posted February 24, 2014 at 01:07 AM well at least she still has the rest of March to go thought . before hitting her summer run Quote
DionFanAlways Posted February 24, 2014 at 01:24 AM Posted February 24, 2014 at 01:24 AM She should do a Une Seule Fois for Vegas just for the fans!!! I'm there! No English material, yeah! I'm going to shout that out when I see her.... 6 Quote I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
QueenCeline87 Posted February 24, 2014 at 01:32 AM Posted February 24, 2014 at 01:32 AM She should do a Une Seule Fois for Vegas just for the fans!!! I'm there! No English material, yeah! I'm going to shout that out when I see her.... I second that!!! Il shout it out in August lol ....maybe after a while she will get the message!! 4 Quote http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-RQtOAL6F2I/TAZl-_MB2AI/AAAAAAAAAiI/bkJK6a44q3o/s1600/celine-dion-goodbyes-the-saddest-word.jpg
NicoNV Posted February 24, 2014 at 02:40 AM Posted February 24, 2014 at 02:40 AM (edited) When I read LMBTL was not performed I smiled. It was the kind of 'I KNEW IT!' smile. The song flopped bad and it doesn't fit the show in the slightest. I'm not surprised at all.To remove a song without putting something in its place is just wrong, in my opinion. At the very least, put "Rolling In The Deep" or the M.J. medley back in until they can figure out what the heck they're doing. Ugh! When she introduced LMBTL last time I was there, it just seemed weird. Not the song--the song was awesome. Maybe it's because it wasn't a bigger hit in the US? I can't explain it. But, she just didn't seem excited about introducing it to the Vegas audience (in comparison to how happy/excited she was when she introduced the new material at the NY show). Granted, no one can be happy and excited all the time, if they were they probably would need medication, haha. I just mean, it was almost like she was embarrassed or maybe just uncertain of the audience reaction? I don’t know. Maybe she wasn’t, and I totally misread it, but the song and the introduction didn’t seem natural. It could be that they are just trying to work the new songs in differently, at a later date. With more rehearsal time. She has called herself a perfectionist, and people on her team have called her a perfectionist. It could be she was just not happy with the way the song got randomly inserted into the show, and she wants it introduced differently. Like, she introduced it early out of obligation, but now she wants it done her way (which no doubt will be better than randomly inserting the song into a show). I bet there will be bigger changes come the summer run. I am not talking about a total makeover, that would be expensive, and not realistic given that there are only two months to prepare it and rehearse it. But, I bet new songs are added and integrated into the show. They are probably just waiting until the summer run, and if she wants it done right, it makes sense to pull the song now. Selfishly, I am at least glad I got to see her sing LMBTL in Vegas, just in case I am wrong about the summer changes Her concert is great. She sings live way more than people give her credit for. I still reccomend the concert, and I still look forward to going back. But, I do wish they would add new songs, and maybe change the script a bit. But, the show schedule is designed so tight, i am not sure how much they can do. Only two months here or there is just not a lot of time to get a show majorly revamped---but, here is to hoping for a few new songs being added starting with the summer run! Edited February 24, 2014 at 02:43 AM by NicoNV 5 Quote
DionFanAlways Posted February 24, 2014 at 02:48 AM Posted February 24, 2014 at 02:48 AM I second that!!! Il shout it out in August lol ....maybe after a while she will get the message!!Lol! I sent them a tweet...... We know our wishes will get heard now! 2 Quote I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
DionFanAlways Posted February 24, 2014 at 03:01 AM Posted February 24, 2014 at 03:01 AM When she introduced LMBTL last time I was there, it just seemed weird. Not the song--the song was awesome. Maybe it's because it wasn't a bigger hit in the US? I can't explain it. But, she just didn't seem excited about introducing it to the Vegas audience (in comparison to how happy/excited she was when she introduced the new material at the NY show). Granted, no one can be happy and excited all the time, if they were they probably would need medication, haha. I just mean, it was almost like she was embarrassed or maybe just uncertain of the audience reaction? I don’t know. Maybe she wasn’t, and I totally misread it, but the song and the introduction didn’t seem natural. It could be that they are just trying to work the new songs in differently, at a later date. With more rehearsal time. She has called herself a perfectionist, and people on her team have called her a perfectionist. It could be she was just not happy with the way the song got randomly inserted into the show, and she wants it introduced differently. Like, she introduced it early out of obligation, but now she wants it done her way (which no doubt will be better than randomly inserting the song into a show). I bet there will be bigger changes come the summer run. I am not talking about a total makeover, that would be expensive, and not realistic given that there are only two months to prepare it and rehearse it. But, I bet new songs are added and integrated into the show. They are probably just waiting until the summer run, and if she wants it done right, it makes sense to pull the song now. Selfishly, I am at least glad I got to see her sing LMBTL in Vegas, just in case I am wrong about the summer changes Her concert is great. She sings live way more than people give her credit for. I still reccomend the concert, and I still look forward to going back. But, I do wish they would add new songs, and maybe change the script a bit. But, the show schedule is designed so tight, i am not sure how much they can do. Only two months here or there is just not a lot of time to get a show majorly revamped---but, here is to hoping for a few new songs being added starting with the summer run!Yes I agree. (not holding my breath though) On Youtube she does seem a little hesitant when she introduces it. (lol, because she strayed from script ) However they shouldn't shorten the show because of it!!! 3 Quote I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
chocolatechip15 Posted February 24, 2014 at 05:13 AM Posted February 24, 2014 at 05:13 AM However they shouldn't shorten the show because of it!!! I'm starting to think that it bothers you that she's singing one fewer song than she used to. I'm not sure why I think that. Here's hoping that she includes an amazing new song in its place when you see her this week! 3 Quote
DionFanAlways Posted February 24, 2014 at 10:45 AM Posted February 24, 2014 at 10:45 AM I'm starting to think that it bothers you that she's singing one fewer song than she used to. I'm not sure why I think that. Just kinda! 3 Quote I have had the time of my life following this woman! Much love.
CelineDionFreak Posted February 24, 2014 at 04:59 PM Posted February 24, 2014 at 04:59 PM (edited) The 2 songs that would really work would have to be "My Love" and "I Can't Help Falling in Love With You". The first works because she really can sing it well, but also I could tell when I saw it that she had a emotional attachment to it. The latter is an amazing cover she's done, and being in LV I think it would really fit in! Edited February 24, 2014 at 04:59 PM by CelineDionFreak 1 Quote I didn't know love until they loved me back to life because somebody loves somebody!Le temps qui compte pour Celine est maintenant!
SuperLove4Celine Posted February 24, 2014 at 05:36 PM Posted February 24, 2014 at 05:36 PM The 2 songs that would really work would have to be "My Love" and "I Can't Help Falling in Love With You". The first works because she really can sing it well, but also I could tell when I saw it that she had a emotional attachment to it. The latter is an amazing cover she's done, and being in LV I think it would really fit in! I'm not a huge "My Love" fan, but I'd rather have that in the show instead of any of the covers she currently performs. ("At Seventeen" being the exception as it has a personal connection to her life and her career (GRAMMYs performance).) 2 Quote
CelineDionFreak Posted February 24, 2014 at 05:45 PM Posted February 24, 2014 at 05:45 PM I'm not a huge "My Love" fan, but I'd rather have that in the show instead of any of the covers she currently performs. ("At Seventeen" being the exception as it has a personal connection to her life and her career (GRAMMYs performance).) I agree. For me "Lullaby" needs to go. It's too slow for that part of the show. With the orchestral backdrop, "My Love" could easily be an amazing song! 1 Quote I didn't know love until they loved me back to life because somebody loves somebody!Le temps qui compte pour Celine est maintenant!
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