Songs for the show

[volleyceline]

I have to agree with John, if it's a show, where an orchestra is present all the time, big uptempo songs wont work, maybe not even midtempo, like TTWII (WCD) but that song never really worked live... this is really the chance to make a total new setlist!!!

 

I hope we don't see these songs back:

 

I Drove All Night (won't work with an orchestra, plus give another uptempo song a chance if you will do one)

The Power Of Love (tired of it, but I doubt it'll go)

It's All Coming Back To Me Now (also tired of it, it's a big hit, but after all these years let it go, especially cos of u know what)

To Love You More (also very tired of it, it's wasn't even a hit everywhere! for a 'rare' song the magic wore out. after all these years let it go, especially cos of u know what)

Eyes On Me (nice for the tour, won't add anything though)

All By Myself (nice revival like SM in AND, but it's fini now)

I'm Alive (the new version was awesome, but it's done now. I'd rather hear ANDHC radio mix for a change!)

Shadow Of Love (nice for the tour, won't add anything though)

Fade Away (nice for the tour, but won't work with orchestra)

My Love (nice for the tour, but the trick wore out i think)

The Prayer (Duet with Andrea Bocelli) (nice for the tour, won't add anything though)

Pour Que Tu M'aimes Encore (this song should be put to rest for at least 5 years! the magic is gone, plus her frenc work is more than only this song!!!!)

Tribute To Queen Medley (nice for the tour, won't add anything though)

It's a Man's Man's Man's World (nice for the tour, won't add anything though)

River Deep, Mountain High (nice for the tour, but won't work with orchestra, plus it's been on 4 tours now, it's enough)

 

 

I do hope to see these songs again:

 

Taking Chances (can be interesting with an orchestra!)

Because You Loved Me (FULL version again please!!)

Alone (this song was a high light during the tour, with an orchestra could be amazing)

Love Can Move Mountains (this song is Céline!! She can't scrap this one!)

My Heart Will Go On (BUT like the soundtrack version and please live!!)

 

 

You hit it right on with the songs we're all a little tired of

That's a nice play list.

I'm still hoping for I've got the music in me

[J-Man]

Davey is spot on there I think, except for Because You Loved Me, but thats just a personal choice, in reality it will work well with the theme. I also can see BATB being in there being such a big movie hit and if done correctly, with the orchestra playing lushly it could be very romantic, and maybe they could bring Peabo to Vegas to sing it every night with her (he may already be there, waiting on tables )

Alone would be fantastic with the orchestra too, imagine the strings!

PQTME must go, it has been done to death as the token french number. Hopefully, surely there will be something French in there though. What I'd love to hear would be a new track or a Piaf number, seeing as La Vie En Rose was a hit movie internationally. (Je Ne Regrette Rien, La Vie En Rose or Hymne A L'amour, which we have already seen Celine perform)

 

The idea of having TSMGO or IAMMMW on the bill is just not going to work and would be a mistake, we have heard them on the TC tour, they were incredible but they have been done.

 

I would love LCMM to be included if at all possible, but it will take some work to get this most "poppy" of songs to work with an orchestra, but here's hoping they pull it off)

 

If that medley of u know what is performed I'm gonna walk out of the theatre!

(Well not really, but I won't be giving it a standing ovation)

[Shamrock_1982]

I can't believe you still want to hear LCMM that song does my head in, I really never want her to sing it again, its been done to death seriously, she has better songs to get ppl to '' stand up and dance with her ''...

 

Darren.

[J-Man]

I can't believe you still want to hear LCMM that song does my head in, I really never want her to sing it again, its been done to death seriously, she has better songs to get ppl to '' stand up and dance with her ''...

 

Darren.

 

I do know what you mean Darren, but as Tim said, LCMM has been in every Celine concert since she recorded it, and unlike something like TPOL or that medley, which just feel like lazy choices, I always got the feeling that Celine has a superstition with LCMM that it would just be unlucky if it wasn't included in some way.

(And we all know what Celine is like when it comes to superstition in her shows.)

 

If it is to be cut then this is the perfect show to lose it, but for these reasons, I'd be sad to see it go.

[Shamrock_1982]

Exactly its been in ''every concert/Vegas show'' its time it goes

 

Darren.

Edited August 13, 2010 at 08:21 AM by Ire23

[Davey84]

Darren I have to agree with John, plus this is the only old song Céline actually still injoys singing! IMO!

 

oh and John, BYLM isn't a personal choice, it's an obligated choice for a movie theme show! LOL

 

IF TPOL is included again too, I hope it's in a medley and she'll only sing:

 

The whispers in the morning

Of lovers sleeping tight

Are rolling by like thunder now

As I look in your eyes

 

I hold on to your body

And feel each move you make

Your voice is warm and tender

A love that I could not forsake

 

(chorus)

'Cause I'm your lady

And you are my man

Whenever you reach for me

I'll do all that I can

 

Thust is how I'm feeling

Lying in your arms

when the world sends to much to take

That all ends when I am with you

Even though there may be times

It seems I'm farther away

Never wonder where I am

'Cause I am always by your side

 

(2nd chorus)

'Cause I am your lady

And you are my man

Whenever you reach for me

I'll do all that I can

We're heading for something

Somewhere I've never been

Sometimes I am frightened

But I'm ready to learn

Of the power of love

 

bridge

 

the power of love

 

ooh ooh oooh

sometimes i am frightened by im ready to learn 'bout

the power of loooove

Edited August 13, 2010 at 08:27 AM by Davey84

[Claudette]

I don't know what to think about ''The Power of Love''. On the one hand I think they might drop it because (1) it is not a movie song; (2) it's getting old; (3) it is a very hard song to sing live every night and after the thing with the tour DVDs it became clear to me that Celine's team is now aware that people know about the playback thing, so I think they might be more careful in the future with that (I hope), but on the other hand I think they might include it because it is always a crowd pleaser. Edited August 13, 2010 at 08:54 AM by Claudette

[J-Man]

Well one of the best things about the orchestra is that they are very likely to have to record all new playbacks if they want them, so even the usual suspects should have a new fresher sound.

 

But I'm not going to be sitting at the show wondering if it's playback or not, I want to go the show as a fan, not a technician.

 

Davey thats twice in a row you've had to agree with me! Thanks for that.

Edited August 13, 2010 at 09:29 AM by J-Man

[Claudette]

I don't mind the playback, I'm just wondering how Celine's team is gonna approach this new show. Like you said: because of the orchestra, some of the tricks they pulled at every concert the last how many years is not gonna work this time.

[Shamrock_1982]

I still think starting the show with TYLAM would be amazing, the lights go down, then the strings begin and Celine appears as the lights slowly go on section by section.

And we know that Celine has appeared onstage from under it, walking on from a wing, from behind a screen and even appearing from a inside a box, so I think it would be cool, if she some how appeared from no where onstage or somewhere in the lower vip section

 

Darren.

[J-Man]

TYLAM would be an amazing opening track! It starts so slowly and then builds to a crescendo! Plus it's very orchestral and great lyrics to open with too.

 

"You look at me and life comes from you!"

 

Hopefully they will take on board what you told them Darren.

[celine4evauk]

I still think starting the show with TYLAM would be amazing, the lights go down, then the strings begin and Celine appears as the lights slowly go on section by section.

And we know that Celine has appeared onstage from under it, walking on from a wing, from behind a screen and even appearing from a inside a box, so I think it would be cool, if she some how appeared from no where onstage or somewhere in the lower vip section

 

Darren.

 

Walking through the audience from the ground level entrance would be amazing. They'd have to get the camera guys to know EXACTLY what she's gonna do though, step by step.

 

I'd vote to hear ANY other french song other than PQTME - but if i had to choose LBDB, LAEE, OSAAC, LVDA, JC, L'Abandon - massive fave of mine, a new french song from the new album, or if she had to do one from the D'eux album JSP. I would be in heaven if she sang Cherche Encore, but with the theme of the show it wouldn't fit. D'eux was a massive hit for her - but so was the album.

[Nmj]

i would love to hear instead of PQMTE in the show, Existe Amore

[Tyler1991]

Some of you are wrong. The orchestra doesn't change anything with the playbacks. The playbacks are acapella. The band plays the songs live. Whether she is using a band, an orchestra, or just singing it acapella for the hell of it, the playbacks can be used. Listen to version of TPOL over the years and the band will sound different. Case in point: IACBTMN on the tour DVD. There was plenty of audience noise in the 50 seconds leading up to, "there were nights..." ....that's because everything in that particular part of the song is live.

 

Basically, she can lip the the 1993 TPOL track, or the 2009 TPOL track, and the only thing that will sound different is that there will be a live orchestra rather than a live band.

 

As for LCMM, saying that TPOL should be ditched before this with the logic being that "LCMM has been in every tour" is not true.

 

LCMM has been in only one more tour than TPOL.

LCMM still has not been in every tour, but it has been in every tour since its creation (like TPOL).

Both songs have been performed more than any other song (even if TPOL is lipped....it evens out because more often then not LCMM sounds like mediocre kareoke).

 

And whether it is live or not, most fans will consider TPOL to be more of a highlight then LCMM because TPOL is one of Celine's only #1 hits, whereas LCMM was nothing close to that.

[Davey84]

You are right to some extend, but I think it should be more about which songs she still enjoys singing and which she don't! TPOL she certainly doesn't, she goes on robotmode since AND! LCMM is still energetic as always!

 

Did you read the first official biography? I made a topic about it, 3 years ago... and unfortunatly my fears became reality!

 

When a song fades...

 

June 23, 1996

 

"WDMHBN has been part of her shows for seven years now. 'It's a magnificent song. But some nights the same words is hard work.... Some nights I feel distraught, my heart feels cold... I can change my shows regulary. But, at the same time , I have to give people what they want.' 'Then one day I realise the magic is gone. It's like I've gotten everything out of the song, all it's flavour, all it's colours. It starts to be dull and insipid, like a piece of gum you've been chewing on too long... In Toronto I felt I was completly outside the song. No matter how much I told myself I liked it... I couldn't get into it.'"

 

Then she talks about 'how she fell in love with the song again', but did she? She never ever sung WDHMBN after the FIY tour. It's not even featured on ATW, while it was her first big hit!

 

Céline's next big world tour is coming up. And as we all experienced she is s performing the same 10 year old songs on the promotion wagon... the only relief is that she didn't sing TPOL on Oprah too! Sure you must be true to your past, and not forget your old songs (while actually she did with almost 99% of them!) but don't you think it's time for Céline to pull another 'Where does my heart beat now". Be brave and say... 'NO I am not singing that song again; it is totally drained, I cannot give it anything anymore!!!'?

 

I fear that the songlist for the TC tour will be just like the AND one, without the old covers like IGTWOAS and I wish, but an endless run of BYLM, TLYM, TPOL, IACBTMN, LCMM and of course MHWGO. But is 'Céline still believing that her heart will go on? If it is true (and don't start that here all over again!! ) Then she has been lipping the song for 4,5 years now! That says it all doesn't it? IF these old songs has to be part of her songlist, then PLEASE make it into a medley, 2 minutes top! that's enough! I hate to leave the concert with MHWGO as the last song sung! Céline has recorded over 350 songs! Why stay with this old lot for the rest of your life? I hope Céline will be brave enough and say 'I AM WOOOOOOOMAN!!!' and tell René and the rest that she is not going to make a LTAL tour part deux! It's the Taking Chances tour... and I really hope that at least 10 songs of this magnificent album will be sung by Céline in this tour!!

 

What are your thoughts? Should Céline continue to sing all her old songs, or should she pull another WDMHBN?

 

http://www.celinedionforum.com/index.php?s...c=28390&hl=

 

I don't think it's wrong to ditch songs like TPOL, IACBTMN and TLYM for a while! I'm not saying she shouldn't sing them ever again... but it would be nice to give these songs some rest and give one of the other >100 never or rarely performed English songs a chance!

 

 

besides these songs also hit no 1 (in the USA, as the setlists in Vegas are always focussed to the USA ) in the Billboard or AC top 100!

 

If You Asked Me Too

Nothing Broken But My Heart

All By Myself

To Love You More

I'm Your Angel

That's The Way It Is

A New Day Has Come Radio Mix

 

So there are four number 1 hits she can sing instead of TPOL!

[J-Man]

I am well aware that playback is an acapella vocal, but I still believe that the difference between a house band and a full orchestra means that the playback used for one would not fit with the other. I'm sure that whenever an artist records a playback version of a track, they are hearing the audio of the band playing in their headset. If you then try and mix this vocal with a live orchestra, it wouldn't gel i.m.o.

 

I'm not saying that LCMM should stay just because it's been in every show, as I mentioned before it is almost like a superstition with her. Whereas I never got that feeling with TPOL, which is just included in the same way that ABM is included. Also as Davey has been saying LCMM is one of the songs that Celine still appears to take great pleasure in performing.

Also, from what I know, LCMM has been performed at every show since it's inception, with the exception of Sur Les Plaines, (which was after all a francaphone only concert)

TPOL has not been sung at every show. (Some of the TC francaphone concerts, The Millenium concert, SLP)

[Claudette]

, I agree with you guys. The only reason "The Power of Love'' is still performed is because they know it is a crowd pleaser. It became clear to me a long time ago that Celine is bored with that song. If they want to include it again they really need to do something different with it so that even Celine can enjoy it again...

[Thomas]

Also, from what I know, LCMM has been performed at every show since it's inception, with the exception of Sur Les Plaines, (which was after all a francaphone only concert)

TPOL has not been sung at every show. (Some of the TC francaphone concerts, The Millenium concert, SLP)

TPOL was also missing from the first part of the LTAL tour before it was switched for ABM shortly before the Asian leg.

[Timster]

If Celine's team still want some of her biggest hits to be performed, I have thought for ages now that a LIVE acoustic medley should be performed, like in the LTAL tour. Obviously TLYM will have to go as it was only a hit in a couple of countries, but maybe 4/5 hit songs. The only problem is, as lots of her hits are from movies, we might have BYLM performed normally for the millionth time. I don't mind having MHWGO as it's with the orchestra and it will sound great, but BYLM really needs changing somehow.

[celinesounds]

If Celine's team still want some of her biggest hits to be performed, I have thought for ages now that a LIVE acoustic medley should be performed, like in the LTAL tour. Obviously TLYM will have to go as it was only a hit in a couple of countries, but maybe 4/5 hit songs. The only problem is, as lots of her hits are from movies, we might have BYLM performed normally for the millionth time. I don't mind having MHWGO as it's with the orchestra and it will sound great, but BYLM really needs changing somehow.

 

 

I agree BYLM needs some changing

[celine-rc]

About the play-back, maybe they'll do it less since she'll be doing less shows. Just a thought. But, for the songs, anything would be great. I agree that I drove all night, The power of love and all is getting old and anyway, she must be tired of singing them. We'll see. Surprise Surprise.

[celine4evauk]

About the play-back, maybe they'll do it less since she'll be doing less shows. Just a thought. But, for the songs, anything would be great. I agree that I drove all night, The power of love and all is getting old and anyway, she must be tired of singing them. We'll see. Surprise Surprise.

 

 

I'm really hoping for no playback. Lots of people know about it now. Not just Celine, but that whole Britney tour fiasco etc - and other singers. Lots of show organisers want there to be something written on the concert tickets saying how the show isn't entirely live. And i know a lot of people within the industry (not Celine's people, may i add) here in the UK were very unimpressed with her miming through An Audience With. That show is always live. I really wish Celine had posponed recording of the show. Love the talking parts but can't bear to watch most of the performing. So i'm really hoping they'll at least be a bit more careful, or just rework the songs so its easier for her to sing live. Really looking forward to finding out what songs they've chosen, but also feel a little nervous about it.

[Claudette]

, I agree with you. I don't want to turn this into a playback discussion, but I really think that the reason Celine's people did the rerecording of the playback songs for the DVDs is because they started to realize that more and more people are finding out about it and they wanted to cover it up. The propblem these days is YouTube and the internet. Years ago singers could get away with it because there were not a gazillion bootlegs and all kinds of TV performances available for everybody to see. They didn't bother to do it for the Las Vegas DVD because nobody was allowed to take cameras in the venue, so, except for the ''fanatic'' fans, nobody was really aware of it. With the tour things suddenly changed because YouTube came along and they didn't bother with the cameras in the venues. More and more people started to put two and two together. So I also think they might be more careful in the future with this whole playback thing.

 

By the way, why did Celine mime the ''An Audience with...'' thing? Was she sick? Wasn't the ''X-factor'' performance close to that? A lot of people say she was sick that night.

 

Sorry for going off topic.

[Davey84]

I think that Céline didn't have time to rehearse all the songs to sing them live... IMO they should have postponed the recording of that show.... I really don't get either party argreed to the miming!

[Claudette]

I guess it makes sense. I really thought it was because she was sick. It sounds like she had a sore throat or something during the ''X-factor'' thing. But I agree with celine4evauk: I hate watching that show. I just watch the questions parts, which are hilarious. Edited August 15, 2010 at 01:27 PM by Claudette

[Davey84]

I haven't even seen it, cos I knew it was playback they should have waited till the tour! We would have at least had an amazing vocal recording from Europe in good quality!

[Shaun]

If Celine's team still want some of her biggest hits to be performed, I have thought for ages now that a LIVE acoustic medley should be performed, like in the LTAL tour. Obviously TLYM will have to go as it was only a hit in a couple of countries, but maybe 4/5 hit songs. The only problem is, as lots of her hits are from movies, we might have BYLM performed normally for the millionth time. I don't mind having MHWGO as it's with the orchestra and it will sound great, but BYLM really needs changing somehow.

 

Celine's team need to remember back to the 2002 CBS special where she performed a movie medley. That was the PERFECT example of how a medley should be done. It respected the songs by including them in the set list but they also gave them new arrangements and condensed them slightly too. It was refreshing for the audience to hear and i'm sure for Celine to sing also. This is the direction they should go with the "classics" in Vegas.

 

And remember everyone, just because they have an orchestra it doesn't mean they have to be used in every single song. Celine's band will still be part of the show and I have no doubt at all that it will just be them and Celine for some of the more uptempo songs for example.

Edited August 15, 2010 at 01:52 PM by Shaun

[celine4evauk]

, I agree with you. I don't want to turn this into a playback discussion, but I really think that the reason Celine's people did the rerecording of the playback songs for the DVDs is because they started to realize that more and more people are finding out about it and they wanted to cover it up. The propblem these days is YouTube and the internet. Years ago singers could get away with it because there were not a gazillion bootlegs and all kinds of TV performances available for everybody to see. They didn't bother to do it for the Las Vegas DVD because nobody was allowed to take cameras in the venue, so, except for the ''fanatic'' fans, nobody was really aware of it. With the tour things suddenly changed because YouTube came along and they didn't bother with the cameras in the venues. More and more people started to put two and two together. So I also think they might be more careful in the future with this whole playback thing.

 

By the way, why did Celine mime the ''An Audience with...'' thing? Was she sick? Wasn't the ''X-factor'' performance close to that? A lot of people say she was sick that night.

 

Sorry for going off topic.

Yeah,this is a bit off topic - but still related to the new vegas show songs.

All i remember was while she was on the plane coming over here she lost her voice or something. First thing she did was x factor - which is live. She sounded good, but parts of TC she struggled with. Then that week she also did Audience with - normally live. Maybe it was agreed cos she was ill, that she could lip it, or maybe she was gonna do that anyway. Idk. She also did Divas live, which she lipped. Some singers that night mimed, some didn't.

 

Back to topic - just wish that certain songs (if they're not dropped), that she'd do something a bit different with them. Either lower the key a bit (still sound amazing) or change the arrangement, or make it acoustic - less power vocals, more emotion. People love that too. Def agree with everyone who said BYLM needs to be changed. People want to hear the song, but it needs to be changed somehow.. Maybe start doing it as a duet with Elise. Or acoustic arrangement.. And not the version we've been hearing for so long. Perhaps reintroduce the second verse, then skip the middle, and go on to the "yeah" bit at the end.

 

Oh, and if i could have one wish - Drop TYLM. PLEASE!

[Timster]

Back to topic - just wish that certain songs (if they're not dropped), that she'd do something a bit different with them. Either lower the key a bit (still sound amazing) or change the arrangement, or make it acoustic - less power vocals, more emotion. People love that too. Def agree with everyone who said BYLM needs to be changed. People want to hear the song, but it needs to be changed somehow.. Maybe start doing it as a duet with Elise. Or acoustic arrangement.. And not the version we've been hearing for so long. Perhaps reintroduce the second verse, then skip the middle, and go on to the "yeah" bit at the end.

 

Oh, and if i could have one wish - Drop TYLM. PLEASE!

 

I agree, they need to change her songs. When performed in concert (playback), TPOL is 1 semitone lower than the original CD recording. However, in the early 90s when she was performing the song on TV, most of the performances were 2 semitones lower. So if they go back to performing it 2 semitones lower, I'm sure Celine could comfortably sing the song live in Vegas, and it will still sound great. If it's in a medley she wouldn't even have to sing all the big parts, just the first verse and chorus maybe...

 

I don't think any of her other songs need to be lowered anymore, as long as TLYM is removed, then I don't think there is a hit that she wouldn't be able to sing in the normal live keys in a new medley. I was quite worried when MHWGO at Star Acedemie was lowered, as I thought maybe now she's performed it in this key, she might well keep it like that for future live performances. Personally, I think they should only lower the key if it's physically impossible for Celine to sing a song in the current key live every night, but in the case of MHWGO, it's a relatively easy song. Hopefully Star Acedemie was just a one-off...

[Claudette]

Rememeber she sang ''My Heart Will Go On'' with another singer. I think that complicates the ''what key will I sing this song tonight...'' situation a bit.