The original songs of Celine's cover versions

October 14, 2015 at 11:23 AM

I do wonder if it's real tho.... Cos he even made believe that he recorded IACBTMN first ... While that was in fact Pandoras Box if I am not mistaken.. .

Cool that he replied tho!

October 14, 2015 at 12:20 PM

I do wonder if it's real tho.... Cos he even made believe that he recorded IACBTMN first ... While that was in fact Pandoras Box if I am not mistaken.. .

Cool that he replied tho!

Oh - com' on! Why should he lie regarding "Is Nothing Sacred"? That's a song without any place in music history! :giggle:

Regarding "It's all coming back to me": Well, I don't know where you've got that information. All I know is, that he really WANTED to record that song first. But Jim Steinman saw it as a song for female voices. He even went to court to prevent Meat Loaf to record it 1988/1989! So "Pandoras Box" recorded/released it first, then in 1996 Celine (which drove him mad too) and eventually in 2006 Meat Loaf was allowed to release that song.

In Wiki the short-version of that whole story had been summarized: https://en.wikipedia..._Back_to_Me_Now

And although posted here before, here's Pandoras Version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLdYfx54OIg

And here Mr. Meat Loafs version of 2006 (!!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y96FkvcsY4o

And here the most wonderful rendition of that song of "OUR" girl :giggle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDxoj-tDDIU

Edited October 14, 2015 at 12:21 PM by drove all night

October 14, 2015 at 02:42 PM

I think the song was written for Celine after the success of IACBTMN. She recorded it for her LTAL album but it didn't make the final cut. Then Meatloaf recorded and released the song.

@ Dear Bell.

I had the honor of receiving an answer of Mr. Meat Loaf himself to my question, who recorded "Is Nothing Sacred" first. It was him with Patti Russo. So my research had been correct!

P.S.: I must admit it felt somehow surreal that this legend answered this Facebook-PM personally.

That's awesome that you got a response from Meat Loaf!

But maybe he didn't know what Jim Steinman had done with the song before he recorded it, since Celine's version was never released. I think Bell is right that Celine originally recorded it for LTAL -- because if you look in the archives of alt.music.celine-dion, there are posts from 1997 talking about rumors that the song would be on LTAL. One of the posters said he had been in contact with Jim Steinman's production manager, Don Ketteler, who said:

Don again. This is what happened with "Is Nothing Sacred." It was a total debacle. They didn't like our mix, and demanded a remix…and then another. In between all of these mixes were days (which we were paying studio time for because we had to leave the mix up) that dragged into weeks while we waited for replies. Then they decided to do a mix with their "team," which turned out to be more than just a remix, as they added production elements and made changes in the arrangement. We waited and waited to hear back, again. After a week or so we heard, through Jim's attorney, that no one (including us) was happy with the work they'd done,and the song wasn't going to be on the album. It is clear that Celine adored the song, but politics got in the way.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.music.celine-dion/steinman/alt.music.celine-dion/2-6t7AlqgoQ/gxw0lYK5NE0J

Who knows if that person really was in touch with the production manager (though it's oddly specific, with the name and everything, to be made up) -- but the posts are from '97, so it seems likely that's when Celine recorded it.

October 14, 2015 at 02:58 PM

That's awesome that you got a response from Meat Loaf!

But maybe he didn't know what Jim Steinman had done with the song before he recorded it, since Celine's version was never released. I think Bell is right that Celine originally recorded it for LTAL -- because if you look in the archives of alt.music.celine-dion, there are posts from 1997 talking about rumors that the song would be on LTAL. One of the posters said he had been in contact with Jim Steinman's production manager, Don Ketteler, who said:

Don again. This is what happened with "Is Nothing Sacred." It was a total debacle. They didn't like our mix, and demanded a remix…and then another. In between all of these mixes were days (which we were paying studio time for because we had to leave the mix up) that dragged into weeks while we waited for replies. Then they decided to do a mix with their "team," which turned out to be more than just a remix, as they added production elements and made changes in the arrangement. We waited and waited to hear back, again. After a week or so we heard, through Jim's attorney, that no one (including us) was happy with the work they'd done,and the song wasn't going to be on the album. It is clear that Celine adored the song, but politics got in the way.
https://groups.googl...oQ/gxw0lYK5NE0J

Who knows if that person really was in touch with the production manager (though it's oddly specific, with the name and everything, to be made up) -- but the posts are from '97, so it seems likely that's when Celine recorded it.

OK - if I find a contact address I will write to Mr. Steinman too. But up til now I believe Mr. Meat Loaf ...

But thank you for the additional information!

October 14, 2015 at 03:24 PM

Celine recorded INS first. Meatloaf recorded his version in 1998, but it wasn't released until 1999.

Source: Wikipedia

" "Is Nothing Sacred" is a song written by Jim Steinman and Don Black. It has been recorded by Meat Loaf twice. Jim Steinman composed the music while Don Black wrote the lyrics to this ballad. The song was originally recorded for the 1998 album The Very Best of Meat Loaf, with lead vocals by Meat Loaf. It was re-recorded as a duet featuring Patti Russo for its single release in 1999. The duet debuted at #15 on the UK charts. The duet is also featured as a bonus track on the VH1: Storytellers album. Meat Loaf and Patti Russo performed this song nightly on The Very Best Of tour. A promo video and live performance of the duet can be viewed at youtube.com. Russell Watson has released a cover of the song. Celine Dion, Karine Hannah, and Rob Evan as part of The Dream Engine have all provided lead vocals for unreleased recordings of this song."

The duet with Patti Russo wasn't even recorded until 1999, 2 years after the release of LTAL, which is the version Meatloaf referred to in that Facebook message.

Edited October 14, 2015 at 03:26 PM by CelinesDIVO5

October 14, 2015 at 06:12 PM

Well, what should I say? You all know it better than Mr. Meat Loaf himself, who is a liar in your eyes. :hmm: Under these circumstances I won't apply a lot of effort trying to find a way to reach Mr. Jim Steinman - 'cause I guess you won't believe him either. :giggle:

No hard feelings! :flowers:

October 14, 2015 at 06:20 PM

I don't think that's what anyone meant by their speculations. The piecing of the timeline just seems a bit off.

October 15, 2015 at 05:23 AM

No hard feelings!

No hard feelings for sure!

October 16, 2015 at 08:54 PM

JE N'AI PAS PEUR DE MOURIR AVEC TOI

written by Pierre Jeantet and Eddy Marney for the Greek singer Nana Mouskouri in 1982.

Nana Mouskouri, 1982:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJjrsXR2Fs0

Celine Dion @ "Simplement Marnay", July 2003:

October 16, 2015 at 10:44 PM

It's such a lovely and impressive song :wub2:

October 17, 2015 at 10:03 PM

That's awesome that you got a response from Meat Loaf!

But maybe he didn't know what Jim Steinman had done with the song before he recorded it, since Celine's version was never released. I think Bell is right that Celine originally recorded it for LTAL -- because if you look in the archives of alt.music.celine-dion, there are posts from 1997 talking about rumors that the song would be on LTAL. One of the posters said he had been in contact with Jim Steinman's production manager, Don Ketteler, who said:

Don again. This is what happened with "Is Nothing Sacred." It was a total debacle. They didn't like our mix, and demanded a remix…and then another. In between all of these mixes were days (which we were paying studio time for because we had to leave the mix up) that dragged into weeks while we waited for replies. Then they decided to do a mix with their "team," which turned out to be more than just a remix, as they added production elements and made changes in the arrangement. We waited and waited to hear back, again. After a week or so we heard, through Jim's attorney, that no one (including us) was happy with the work they'd done,and the song wasn't going to be on the album. It is clear that Celine adored the song, but politics got in the way.
https://groups.googl...oQ/gxw0lYK5NE0J

Who knows if that person really was in touch with the production manager (though it's oddly specific, with the name and everything, to be made up) -- but the posts are from '97, so it seems likely that's when Celine recorded it.

From what I remember, it was a VERY last minute change that the song was pulled. For those of us in the fandom back in 1997, Céline's official site (then called: "celineonline.com") released to TeamCeline members one full song to stream per day a couple of weeks before the release. I could be wrong, but I remember "Is Nothing Sacred" being on the track listing at the beginning of that whole promotion, and then mid-way through, it was replaced by "Where Is The Love"... Anyone else remember this?

The song then re-appeared leaked online in 2000, to coincide with "Dance of the Vampires" opening on Broadway in New York (it was said that the song was in the original production but cut in previews)... I remember people saying it was a "demo" that was apparently released as part of a promo CD for the musical, although I don't know of anyone who has ever seen this promo CD...

Edited October 17, 2015 at 10:07 PM by MrTim212

October 18, 2015 at 01:10 AM

From what I remember, it was a VERY last minute change that the song was pulled. For those of us in the fandom back in 1997, Céline's official site (then called: "celineonline.com") released to TeamCeline members one full song to stream per day a couple of weeks before the release. I could be wrong, but I remember "Is Nothing Sacred" being on the track listing at the beginning of that whole promotion, and then mid-way through, it was replaced by "Where Is The Love"... Anyone else remember this?

The song then re-appeared leaked online in 2000, to coincide with "Dance of the Vampires" opening on Broadway in New York (it was said that the song was in the original production but cut in previews)... I remember people saying it was a "demo" that was apparently released as part of a promo CD for the musical, although I don't know of anyone who has ever seen this promo CD...

Thanks for the info - very interesting! There's also a Billboard magazine article from November 1, 1997 (a couple of weeks before LTAL was relased), that says that the LTAL album will include "another epic" from Jim Steinman, called "Is Nothing Sacred." https://books.google.com/books?id=7wkEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA87&dq=billboard+november+1,+1997&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CBwQ6AEwAGoVChMI4KDUxunKyAIVwXk-Ch3aWgwd#v=onepage&q=sacred&f=false

So she definitely recorded it in '97 -- which would seem to make her the first singer of it. Meat Loaf probably just didn't know, since he wasn't involved in the recording, and it was never released.

It's always so interesting when we go back and figure these things out!

October 18, 2015 at 01:53 PM

From what I remember, it was a VERY last minute change that the song was pulled. For those of us in the fandom back in 1997, Céline's official site (then called: "celineonline.com") released to TeamCeline members one full song to stream per day a couple of weeks before the release. I could be wrong, but I remember "Is Nothing Sacred" being on the track listing at the beginning of that whole promotion, and then mid-way through, it was replaced by "Where Is The Love"... Anyone else remember this?

The song then re-appeared leaked online in 2000, to coincide with "Dance of the Vampires" opening on Broadway in New York (it was said that the song was in the original production but cut in previews)... I remember people saying it was a "demo" that was apparently released as part of a promo CD for the musical, although I don't know of anyone who has ever seen this promo CD...

I for one am happy they ditched Is Nothing Sacred. I do enjoy listening to it every now and they but find it falls somewhat flat. I don't remember Where is the Love being added after the fact but am happy for it as it probably my favorite song of the album.

October 18, 2015 at 03:37 PM

OH BOY!!!! After posting approx. 240 songs in this topic with neary none reaction, that "Is Nothing Sacred" really got you! :music:

October 19, 2015 at 07:12 PM

We should now re-discuss the phil Spector songs that were never released

its so interesting! I think there is an Interview with Celine from 2004 where she addressed this issue

October 19, 2015 at 07:58 PM

We should now re-discuss the phil Spector songs that were never released its so interesting! I think there is an Interview with Celine from 2004 where she addressed this issue

I'd love to watch it.

These songs seem to be spectacular

October 21, 2015 at 07:09 PM

We should now re-discuss the phil Spector songs that were never released its so interesting! I think there is an Interview with Celine from 2004 where she addressed this issue

I'd love to watch it.
These songs seem to be spectacular

This would be a little too off-topic here! :yes:

Please discuss here:

http://www.celinedionforum.com/topic/9973-songs-with-phil-spector/

:thankspin: :bye1:

October 21, 2015 at 07:24 PM

thanks! Couldnt find the topic

Edited October 21, 2015 at 07:25 PM by ryba

October 21, 2015 at 08:24 PM

thanks! Couldnt find the topic

Just ask me! :giggle: :laugh: :rolleyes: :bye1:

October 21, 2015 at 08:47 PM

I WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU

written and first recorded by Dolly Parton in 1973 for her one-time partner and mentor Porter Wagoner, from whom she was separating professionally at the time. In June 1974 it was released as a single. It reached number one on the "Billboard Hot Country Songs".

The massive worldwide success came in 1982, as Whitney Houston recorded the song for the soundtrack of her debut film "The Bodyguard". Together with producer David Foster she re-arranged the song as an R&B ballad. It became and will forever be Whitney's signature song.

At the Grammy Awards in 1994 the tune won "Record of the Year", and "Best Pop Vocal Performance, Female". The single topped simultaneously the 1993 Billboard Hot 100 and Hot R&B Singles year-end charts.

Whitney:

Celine - but … well, well … somehow she didn't have the right lyrics. :hmm: :giggle: :sofunny:

October 27, 2015 at 09:25 AM

LA-LA-LULLABY

written by Michael & Patty Silversher (music) and Judy Rothman Rofé & Alex Rockwell (lyrics). It's the ending song of each episode of Jim Henson's children's TV series "Pajanimals". The puppets were all made by the "Creature Shop" at "The Jim Henson Company".

The Pajanimals:

Celine @ "The early show", Sept. 2011 (starts @ 2:07) :wub:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB-FA7sWB3U

November 1, 2015 at 01:40 PM

MAN IN THE MIRROR

written by Glen Ballard and Siedah Garrett. Recorded by Michael Jackson and released 1988. The song is said to have been one of his favorite songs.

Michael Jackson:

Celine @ Las Vegas:

November 21, 2015 at 09:31 PM

WHITE CHRISTMAS

written by Irving Berlin in 1940. Bing Crosby was the first to sing it on the NBC radio show "The Kraft Music Hall" on Christmas Day 1941. He recorded the song within only 18 minutes in 1942 for the soundtrack of the American musical film "Holiday Inn" (directed by Mark Sandrich and starring Bing Crosby and Fred Astaire). The record company Decca re-released it as a single in 1945. It is the best-selling single of all time.

Bing Crosby:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9QLn7gM-hY

Celine sang some lines for the Christmas Sampler of David Foster (1993):

Edited November 21, 2015 at 09:32 PM by drove all night

November 22, 2015 at 09:00 AM

WHITE CHRISTMAS

written by Irving Berlin in 1940. Bing Crosby was the first to sing it on the NBC radio show "The Kraft Music Hall" on Christmas Day 1941. He recorded the song within only 18 minutes in 1942 for the soundtrack of the American musical film "Holiday Inn" (directed by Mark Sandrich and starring Bing Crosby and Fred Astaire). The record company Decca re-released it as a single in 1945. It is the best-selling single of all time.

Bing Crosby:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9QLn7gM-hY

Celine sang some lines for the Christmas Sampler of David Foster (1993):

What in the world is this video? The song does not even match the performance LOL

December 21, 2015 at 10:05 PM

O CHRISTMAS TREE ("O Tannenbaum")

is the English version of the German Christmas song "Oh Tannenbaum", which is based on a traditional folk song of the 16th century. The German Joachim August Zarnack (1777–1827) wrote the lyrics 1819 as a tragic love song comparing the evergreen fir needles as a symbol of loyalty and trust.

As the Christmas tree became more and more common in the 19th century, the German teacher Lehrer Ernst Anschütz (1780–1861) added 1824 two verses which refered to Christmas. But the first verse of Zarnack's song remained.

As I couldn't find informations, who recorded that tune for the first time, I choose the famous "Wiener Sängerknaben" as a sample for the German version.

Celine promoted with that song her parfume line "Belong" @ "Walgreens Drug Store" at Christmas time 2006 - and I guess a lot of fans wouldn't mind finding her under their Christmas tree!

Wiener Sängerknaben:

Celine:

December 21, 2015 at 10:09 PM

What in the world is this video? The song does not even match the performance LOL

I've read that Celine (and Natalie Cole, Roberta Flack & Tammy Wynette) couldn't join the TV taping of David's Christmas show of 1993. So the others "lipsinced" them.

February 18, 2016 at 10:31 PM

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO LIVE WITHOUT YOU

written by Doug James and Michael Bolton in 1983. Originally "Air Supply" should record it, but as they wanted to have changed lyrics, Bolton declined. Lisa Hartman first performed that song on the soap opera "Knots Landing". But it was first recorded by Laura Branigan and the single's been released in July 1983. It was Bolton's first major hit as a songwriter.

In June 1989 Bolton himself recorded it for his album "Soul Provider". This marked a turning point in his career. Not only did he won a Grammy for "Best Male Pop Vocal Performance" but from that days on he got also the recognition as a performer (not only as a songwriter) and it rose him to stardom. It became his signature song.

Céline sang a sniplet during the photoshooting in 1996.

Lisa Hartman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLE4oR2V70s

Laura Branigan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN6JBTGcr68

Michael Bolton:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFood_bTOX4

Céline sang a sniplet @ Cover shooting for "People" magazine @ 1996 (3:06)

http://v.youku.com/v...M3NjMwNA==.html

Thanks to "celine4evauk" for reminding: Céline @ "The Wayne Brady Show" in 2003: "Now am I supposed to drink that water"

Edited February 18, 2016 at 10:54 PM by drove all night

February 18, 2016 at 10:35 PM

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO LIVE WITHOUT YOU

written by Doug James and Michael Bolton in 1983. Originally "Air Supply" should record it, but as they wanted to have changed lyrics, Bolton declined. Lisa Hartman first performed that song on the soap opera "Knots Landing". But it was first recorded by Laura Branigan and the single's been released in July 1983. It was Bolton's first major hit as a songwriter.
In June 1989 Bolton himself recorded it for his album "Soul Provider". This marked a turning point in his career. Not only did he won a Grammy for "Best Male Pop Vocal Performance" but from that days on he got also the recognition as a performer (not only as a songwriter) and it rose him to stardom. It became his signature song.
Céline sang a sniplet during the photoshooting in 1996.

Lisa Hartman:

Laura Branigan:

Michael Bolton:

Céline sang a sniplet @ Cover shooting for "People" magazine @ 1996 (3:06)
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTQ2NDM3NjMwNA==.html

And not forgetting the Wayne Brady interview "how am I supposed to drink this water" 😂😂

February 18, 2016 at 10:56 PM

And not forgetting the Wayne Brady interview "how am I supposed to drink this water"

THANK YOU for reminding me :flowers: ... how could I forget that terrific sniplet!! :doh:

I've edited my posting! :bye1:

February 19, 2016 at 05:20 AM

"When I Need You"

Albert Hammond

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG0VaAhDosQ

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Leo Sayer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoXcRw9gJCA

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Celine Dion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMyF6MEMNIY

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