Céline has Stiff-Person Syndrome

[isurrender]

This race after the click is already becoming grotesque, despite the sad nature of the subject. Claudette said precisely "On ne trouve pas de médicament" (the French pronoun "on" is complex: often it can be translated as "we", but often it denotes a more abstract or indefinite subject, "les gens" or "tout le monde"; so it could mean "we, the family", as you say, or "medicine", which isn't always able to cure this disease).

 

Yet the English-language media have falsified this simple phrase, completing it with a subordinate proposition: "that works", implicitly: "for her".

 

In this way, a general banality suddenly becomes topical, dramatic and personalized. Although Claudette's words date back to the beginning of July, they have become news and, through the English language, are repeated in the media all over the world. As a result, the French media don't quote Claudette at all in the original French version, but instead retranslate it from English: "Aucun médicament qui fonctionne" ("No drug that works": "Elle", "Sudinfo", "7sur7", "Soir mag" etc.), "Nous n'arrivons à trouver de traitement efficace" ("We can't find an effective treatment": "Gala", "Vanity Fair", "Reportages Photo" , "Marie France" etc.).

 

All in all, a fine piece of manipulation.

 

 

Sorry but all this means the same. lol

 

Let's put aside the fact that we don't know what Claudette knows. Let's say that what she says is true.

 

Why on earth would people ( her, you, me, anybody) say "There's no medecine to cure this disease" when asking for updates keeping in her sleeves she is doing better?

 

This is just a diplomatic way to say "well, there's no positive progress". It does mean " nothing is working".

 

If you only stick to what she said literally , it doesn't mean anything. The world is not hanging on Claudette's updates to know if a cure for this desease was found or not.

[nomys]

Maybe Céline will come back in 2026 when her $500 million contract with Rob Prinz will end ...

[Zofia]

Sorry but all this means the same. lol

 

Let's put aside the fact that we don't know what Claudette knows. Let's say that what she says is true.

 

Why on earth would people ( her, you, me, anybody) say "There's no medecine to cure this disease" when asking for updates keeping in her sleeves she is doing better?

 

This is just a diplomatic way to say "well, there's no positive progress". It does mean " nothing is working".

 

If you only stick to what she said literally , it doesn't mean anything. The world is not hanging on Claudette's updates to know if a cure for this desease was found or not.

 

The problem is probably just that Claudette - lacking news to which she simply has no access - sells her cheap "there's no drug, but it's important to give hope" philosophy to the media. And the media, uninterested in the general truths in Claudette's mouth, but thirsty for news, add "there's no drug that works", completely distorting the meaning of the sentence (because in this case they're suggesting that no symptomatic medicine can be found).

 

Does this amount to the same thing? - Well, maybe, because if Claudette knew something more precise and, above all, more optimistic, she'd say it without hesitation. Nevertheless, it's possible that Céline's inner circle prefers to prudently refrain from any updates for the time being, good or bad, and Claudette will only receive information when they see fit to release it.

 

But that doesn't change the fact that the media have manipulated the story.

 

(Damn it, I'd never have guessed that one day we'd have to analyze a sentence of Claudette's as if it were Shakespeare...)

[PuraVida]

"Aucun médicament qui fonctionne"

 

But Claudette enver used the word "fonctionne" or a version of that verb, did she?

[Zofia]

But Claudette enver used the word "fonctionne" or a version of that verb, did she?

 

In the interview for "JdM" a month ago, the source of the current media hype - no, she only says "We can't find medication, but giving hope, I think that's important", a round and banal sentence. "Which works" (« qui fonctionne ») is added by journalists.

 

Besides, how the treatment works, she probably has no idea (even the crucial news about the diagnosis, she learnt from the public message with the rest of the world; it was still quite significant)...

[PuraVida]

In the interview for "JdM" a month ago, the source of the current media hype - no, she only says "We can't find medication, but giving hope, I think that's important", a round and banal sentence. "Which works" (« qui fonctionne ») is added by journalists.

 

Besides, how the treatment works, she probably has no idea (even the crucial news about the diagnosis, she learnt from the public message with the rest of the world; it was still quite significant)...

 

Yeah, so this add-on is just blatantly bad journalism and very cruel. So irresponsible.

 

It sucks to sit by as so much mis-information pours out from all corners. From these horrible death hoax videos, and now the misreporting by somewhat more reputable outlets. It's far too much for the fanbase to effectively combat.

[KyleVan41]

Las Vegas review journal reported this news just the other day too from a journalist close to Celine and his article has said they have reached out to Celine’s team “several times” regarding an update and they have yet to hear a word. He also stated Resorts world remains hopeful she’ll perform there someday. He emphasized “hopeful”. Her team is holding their cards close because obviously she just is not ready. And they just don’t know …

 

I think we’re in for a real let down the longer this goes on. It’s sad. All we can do now is enjoy what we used to…..

[Zofia]

Yeah, so this add-on is just blatantly bad journalism and very cruel. So irresponsible.

 

It sucks to sit by as so much mis-information pours out from all corners. From these horrible death hoax videos, and now the misreporting by somewhat more reputable outlets. It's far too much for the fanbase to effectively combat.

 

 

Yes, unfortunately, the media are like hounds when it comes to sniffing out blood (no offense to the hounds). No ethical principle is going to hold them back.

 

What comforts me is that Céline knows how to isolate herself and protect herself from all the hype. Despite the accusations that she's a "recluse", I think it's a very important aspect of her down-to-earth personality, and in these circumstances it's just life-saving for her.

 

Her sons are a different matter; they belong to a different generation, and probably all this noise reaches them. How do they defend themselves? I hope it doesn't do them too much harm...

 

I think we're in for a real let down the longer this goes on. It's sad. All we can do now is enjoy what we used to…..

 

It seems to me that, in the present situation, it's not "us" who are the most important - not our sadness, not our frustration - but it's her.

 

If the bond between artist and fan is a human one, and not just a commercial one, then we owe her our support. In every message, she has stressed how important this is to her.

 

I hope that her team is doing at least this one job: filtering the words addressed to Céline in the public space, protecting her from anything that might hurt her, and passing on everything that might support her.

[idroveallnight]

It sort of feels like Celine’s hiatus in 2000 again. I was still a teenager and it gave me the opportunity to discover her French music and realize just how sophisticated and multitalented she was.

 

Maybe this is a time of rediscovery for us… to take a deep dive into her catalogue and appreciate the brilliance of her career and Rene’s legacy. When I watch videos of her from 20-something years ago and realize what she was able to achieve at the same age I am currently, I am just in complete awe.

[Nmj]

It sort of feels like Celine’s hiatus in 2000 again. I was still a teenager and it gave me the opportunity to discover her French music and realize just how sophisticated and multitalented she was.

 

Maybe this is a time of rediscovery for us… to take a deep dive into her catalogue and appreciate the brilliance of her career and Rene’s legacy. When I watch videos of her from 20-something years ago and realize what she was able to achieve at the same age I am currently, I am just in complete awe.

 

Sadly, With this hiatus, you might get to “rediscover” Celine A-Z multiple times.

 

Soon it’ll be 4 years since her last performance with no end in sight

Edited August 8, 2023 at 01:35 AM by Nmj

[mb011]

Just my thought the other day, when and where was her last performance?

 

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[Shaun]

Just my thought the other day, when and where was her last performance?

 

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Her last concert was at the Prudential Center on 8th March 2020. She made a few one off appearances on Covid telethons throughout 2020 too.

[idroveallnight]

Her last concert was at the Prudential Center on 8th March 2020. She made a few one off appearances on Covid telethons throughout 2020 too.

 

I was there and she signed an autograph for me

[PuraVida]

I feel like over time, and also with the "help" of the pandemic, I pretty much discovered Celine over and over. Basically the only thing that excites me now in Celine world is new, rare, unreleased stuff -- mostly live performances or snippets. I am not someone who streams her music as much as other fans, for example.

 

It's so sad that she's not able to build on her artwork and craft, and keep adding to her legacy in an active way.

[smw]

It sort of feels like Celine’s hiatus in 2000 again. I was still a teenager and it gave me the opportunity to discover her French music and realize just how sophisticated and multitalented she was.

 

Maybe this is a time of rediscovery for us… to take a deep dive into her catalogue and appreciate the brilliance of her career and Rene’s legacy. When I watch videos of her from 20-something years ago and realize what she was able to achieve at the same age I am currently, I am just in complete awe.

 

There's so much out there on YouTube, etc. I still discover new things after all these years. And it's crazy to think about all of the wonderful moments in her career that were never filmed.

[idroveallnight]

There's so much out there on YouTube, etc. I still discover new things after all these years. And it's crazy to think about all of the wonderful moments in her career that were never filmed.

 

and all the amazing high notes from concerts and unreleased songs still sitting in the vaults.

[smw]

 

 

and all the amazing high notes from concerts and unreleased songs still sitting in the vaults.

 

We’re still pretty lucky as fans to have so many things on YouTube to enjoy from her career. There are artists from older generations where there’s very little footage of their concerts.

 

But I do hope some Celine goodies come out of the vault soon.

Edited August 11, 2023 at 02:58 AM by smw

[PuraVida]

We're still pretty lucky as fans to have so many things on YouTube to enjoy from her career. There are artists from older generations where there's very little footage of their concerts.

 

But I do hope some Celine goodies come out of the vault soon.

 

But it is weird how there seem to be no high quality bootlegs (audio or video) from the 80s or early 90s...other artists seem to have more. There seem to be more HQ stuff on Youtube of Whitney than of Celine, for example.

[ryba]

https://youtu.be/QYm76CWiiRs

 

The lady obviously doesn't know that Linda has pretty much always been living with Celine, not just now in order to be her care taker.

Edited August 14, 2023 at 06:38 PM by ryba

[KyleVan41]

https://youtu.be/QYm76CWiiRs

 

The lady obviously doesn't know that Linda has pretty much always been living with Celine, not just now in order to be her care taker.

 

When Celine’s team doesn’t respond it doesn’t help. Mind you it’s probably best they don’t at this point

[scielle]

New from Claudette (so all usual disclaimers apply…)

 

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2023/08/18/celine-dion-sa-soeur-claudette-fait-le-point-sur-les-rumeurs-recentes

 

«Je vais te dire les vraies affaires, Céline va du mieux qu’elle peut. On sait que sa maladie est particulièrement difficile à traiter, mais elle est entourée d’une grande équipe de spécialistes et elle travaille fort. Je fais confiance à cette équipe-là, ma petite sœur a un moral d’acier et elle va bien. Je veux clarifier que les rumeurs disant que Céline souffre de dépression sont fausses, tout comme celles disant qu’elle ne parle plus à son fils René-Charles. D’ailleurs, même si celui-ci est en condo avec sa blonde, il est toujours rendu à la maison avec sa mère et les deux jumeaux. Ils vont bien aussi, ils ont 12 ans et ils me dépassent déjà», a dit la grande sœur de Céline avant de nous donner des nouvelles de la voix de celle-ci.

 

«Ceux qui prétendent que la voix de ma sœur a disparu se trompent. Elle m’a chanté quelques notes au téléphone et sa voix est toujours bien là. J’étais tellement heureuse et rassurée de l’entendre. Nous donnons tout notre amour à notre petite sœur, et elle a confiance, tout comme moi, en sa capacité à surmonter cette épreuve.»

 

 

 

 

[Nmj]

New from Claudette (so all usual disclaimers apply…)

 

https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2023/08/18/celine-dion-sa-soeur-claudette-fait-le-point-sur-les-rumeurs-recentes

 

«Je vais te dire les vraies affaires, Céline va du mieux qu’elle peut. On sait que sa maladie est particulièrement difficile à traiter, mais elle est entourée d’une grande équipe de spécialistes et elle travaille fort. Je fais confiance à cette équipe-là, ma petite sœur a un moral d’acier et elle va bien. Je veux clarifier que les rumeurs disant que Céline souffre de dépression sont fausses, tout comme celles disant qu’elle ne parle plus à son fils René-Charles. D’ailleurs, même si celui-ci est en condo avec sa blonde, il est toujours rendu à la maison avec sa mère et les deux jumeaux. Ils vont bien aussi, ils ont 12 ans et ils me dépassent déjà», a dit la grande sœur de Céline avant de nous donner des nouvelles de la voix de celle-ci.

 

«Ceux qui prétendent que la voix de ma sœur a disparu se trompent. Elle m’a chanté quelques notes au téléphone et sa voix est toujours bien là. J’étais tellement heureuse et rassurée de l’entendre. Nous donnons tout notre amour à notre petite sœur, et elle a confiance, tout comme moi, en sa capacité à surmonter cette épreuve.»

 

This statement actually sounds like it can be true.

 

 

"I'm going to tell you the real business, Céline is doing the best she can. It is known that her disease is particularly difficult to treat, but she is surrounded by a large team of specialists and she works hard. I trust this team, my little sister has steel morale and she's fine. I want to clarify that the rumors that Céline suffers from depression are false, as are those that she no longer speaks to her son René-Charles. Moreover, even if this one is in a condo with his blonde, he always went home with his mother and the two twins. They are fine too, they are 12 years old and they are already surpassing me, "said Céline's big sister before giving us news of her voice.

 

"Those who claim that my sister's voice has disappeared are mistaken. She sang me a few notes on the phone and her voice is still there. I was so happy and reassured to hear it. We give all our love to our little sister, and she trusts, just like me, in her ability to overcome this ordeal."

[ryba]

 

 

This statement actually sounds like it can be true.

 

 

"I'm going to tell you the real business, Céline is doing the best she can. It is known that her disease is particularly difficult to treat, but she is surrounded by a large team of specialists and she works hard. I trust this team, my little sister has steel morale and she's fine. I want to clarify that the rumors that Céline suffers from depression are false, as are those that she no longer speaks to her son René-Charles. Moreover, even if this one is in a condo with his blonde, he always went home with his mother and the two twins. They are fine too, they are 12 years old and they are already surpassing me, "said Céline's big sister before giving us news of her voice.

 

"Those who claim that my sister's voice has disappeared are mistaken. She sang me a few notes on the phone and her voice is still there. I was so happy and reassured to hear it. We give all our love to our little sister, and she trusts, just like me, in her ability to overcome this ordeal."

so happy to hear that! I knew that she is fine!

 

LOL RC lives in a condo with his blond

Edited August 18, 2023 at 08:06 PM by ryba

[valeriociarrocchi]

 

This statement actually sounds like it can be true.

 

 

"I'm going to tell you the real business, Céline is doing the best she can. It is known that her disease is particularly difficult to treat, but she is surrounded by a large team of specialists and she works hard. I trust this team, my little sister has steel morale and she's fine. I want to clarify that the rumors that Céline suffers from depression are false, as are those that she no longer speaks to her son René-Charles. Moreover, even if this one is in a condo with his blonde, he always went home with his mother and the two twins. They are fine too, they are 12 years old and they are already surpassing me, "said Céline's big sister before giving us news of her voice.

 

"Those who claim that my sister's voice has disappeared are mistaken. She sang me a few notes on the phone and her voice is still there. I was so happy and reassured to hear it. We give all our love to our little sister, and she trusts, just like me, in her ability to overcome this ordeal."

 

Reading that her voice is still there had me crying, seriously. I miss seeing her and hearing her voice and the idea that a voice like hers could be lost forever frightens me. I’m hopeful that, if she will be able to come back, her voice will be stronger than before.

 

 

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[takeachance]

This statement actually sounds like it can be true.

 

 

"I'm going to tell you the real business, Céline is doing the best she can. It is known that her disease is particularly difficult to treat, but she is surrounded by a large team of specialists and she works hard. I trust this team, my little sister has steel morale and she's fine. I want to clarify that the rumors that Céline suffers from depression are false, as are those that she no longer speaks to her son René-Charles. Moreover, even if this one is in a condo with his blonde, he always went home with his mother and the two twins. They are fine too, they are 12 years old and they are already surpassing me, "said Céline's big sister before giving us news of her voice.

 

"Those who claim that my sister's voice has disappeared are mistaken. She sang me a few notes on the phone and her voice is still there. I was so happy and reassured to hear it. We give all our love to our little sister, and she trusts, just like me, in her ability to overcome this ordeal."

 

Thanks for sharing this, I am very happy to hear this news. I only trust information coming from her family or herself. Im glad Claudette clarified for anyone who was unsure.

[Zofia]

It was also Claudette & Co.:

 

Autumn 2021

"We're not worried because if it had been extremely serious, we'd know" ; "Premenopause, hormonal changes..."

Winter 2022

"She's doing great! She's just getting over her cramps"; "Céline has had a digestive problem for a long time, and this causes muscle spasms. But this illness is not serious. »

Autumn 2022

"You're going through menopause, stop dancing and ballet"; "The slope of the hall could have disturbed nerves or muscles in her pelvis"; "She's on the right track. She's recovering; she's being pampered"; "I always say that if Céline wasn't well, we'd know. It would be impossible for her not to tell us" ; "She's going to start performing again; I hear rehearsals are done and it's crazy!" Etc.

 

Claudette never stops being Claudette. Maybe she's got the "go ahead and be positive to cover up the rumors you've started" assignment.

 

From all her traditional blah-blah, I can only retain two things, one good and one bad: if it's true that Céline isn't sinking into depression, that's already excellent. But the phrase "we know that her illness is particularly difficult to treat" worries me: I see it as a veiled confirmation that, for the moment, they haven't managed to find a fully effective treatment.

 

The rest is little fact and much good intention, as usual.

[RosieBarron]

Almost sounds like Claudette has been sent out to clarify her previous statements. Good to hear this though.

[Dreamy]

😉🌹

[Peppercorn1991]

Difference is, the main media won’t report on it as it’s positive!

 

Good news.

 

Kev x

[ryba]

"I'm going to tell you the real business"