Céline has Stiff-Person Syndrome

[comingback]

Even in Germany the newspaper speaking about her today

 

Which newspaper?

[Zofia]

Can't find a new article in JDM, so I'm assuming it's just a rehash from this interview from a couple of weeks back:

https://www.journald...soeur-claudette

 

It's this article, suddenly revived by English-language media, and therefore also worldwide.

 

In it, Claudette says: "We can't find medicine, but I think it's important to give people hope” ("On ne trouve pas de médicaments, mais donner de l'espoir, je trouve que c'est important"). Firstly, it's Claudette, let's not attach any importance to it, she's chattering away as usual. Secondly, it doesn't have to mean that Céline's doctors can't find any symptomatic treatment that works; it can only mean: "for the moment it's an incurable disease, we can't find any curative medication that would allow a cure" - so nothing new, everyone knows that.

[HannesMUC]

 

 

Which newspaper?

 

Bild 🤣😜

[KyleVan41]

Ya I’m seeing all over the news Claudette saying nothing working for Celine. If I were Celine I would wild over this ones big mouth !!! Where is Celine’s management to justify these claims. ET Canada is usually a reputable source actually and Celine has interviewed with them many times. We should direct message Celine’s team on Instagram to wake up and read these….and respond in some capacity !

[comingback]

 

 

Bild 🤣😜

 

BILD is not a newspaper, it's a Yellow Press and garbage😂.

Edited August 4, 2023 at 03:14 PM by comingback

[Nmj]

Ya I’m seeing all over the news Claudette saying nothing working for Celine. If I were Celine I would wild over this ones big mouth !!! Where is Celine’s management to justify these claims. ET Canada is usually a reputable source actually and Celine has interviewed with them many times. We should direct message Celine’s team on Instagram to wake up and read these….and respond in some capacity !

 

As much as Claudette is probably a menace… I think people are losing her in translation meaning there isn’t a cure yet. Also, they are grabbing onto the story of Linda living with Celine during her illness because they aren’t educated enough to know Linda’s been living with them for decades now.

[smw]

 

 

As much as Claudette is probably a menace… I think people are losing her in translation meaning there isn’t a cure yet. Also, they are grabbing onto the story of Linda living with Celine during her illness because they aren’t educated enough to know Linda’s been living with them for decades now.

 

Exactly.

[nuts2you]

[KyleVan41]

Well now this news from Claudette is showing as a leading story in Canadian news for the day even being posted by global media - which is huge

[KyleVan41]

Well now this news from Claudette is showing as a leading story in Canadian news for the day even being posted by global media - which is huge

 

Perhaps now team Celine will pay attention 🙄

[AllaneZ]

I really hate CLAWdette

[Alex_Incognito]

Why are people getting so pissed at Claudette doing what Claudette always does? Hell, at least she is saying SOMETHING.

[Nmj]

Why are people getting so pissed at Claudette doing what Claudette always does? Hell, at least she is saying SOMETHING.

 

I bet Claudette is a lamb.

[PuraVida]

As much as Claudette is probably a menace… I think people are losing her in translation meaning there isn’t a cure yet. Also, they are grabbing onto the story of Linda living with Celine during her illness because they aren’t educated enough to know Linda’s been living with them for decades now.

 

Yeah, it really bothers me that these type of things get treated as breaking news or viral tidbits that must be splashed across webpages. No research or taking heed, just jumping straight ahead for clicks. And to do this against Celine, who has spent decades giving so much to the media and building up her own good reputation.

[comingback]

Celine is all over the German media. She was the first news on ZDF Leute Heute yesterday.

 

https://www.zdf.de/n...ten/leute-heute

Edited August 5, 2023 at 10:21 AM by comingback

[No1IrishFan]

Why are people getting so pissed at Claudette doing what Claudette always does? Hell, at least she is saying SOMETHING.

 

I get what you mean, it’s good to hear something from someone given the silence but I’d also rather she said nothing. Don’t think a single thing she has said has been accurate.

[Dancing_Queen]

In this instance, I don't think Claudette did anything wrong.

She likes the attention, sure.

But people are likely badgering her about Céline's health all the time.

 

Sure, she did look foolish last year.

But she was probably just repeating things that she had been told at an earlier point (when doctors were basically just guessing as well).

 

What she's saying in the actual JDM article is likely accurate (same for the Denver treatment she talked about earlier).

It's just that a lot of international outlets picked up on it (probably because of the death rumours) and mistranslated/lost context.

 

Linda probably does call Claudette semi-regularly.

I doubt she gets any intimate details, but a general update.

So as sad as it is, she's probably our best source right now.

As Alex_incognito has said: At least she's saying something.

[comingback]

Why did they plan the D'EUX Tribute Show in September/two years earlier? Will we get a Celine reaction? Maybe it's also a Charity Show for SPS. Edited August 5, 2023 at 12:42 PM by comingback

[comingback]

Celine is on the cover of Bild today. Celine Dion- Nothing can help her anymore...

[Zofia]

In this instance, I don't think Claudette did anything wrong.

She likes the attention, sure.

But people are likely badgering her about Céline's health all the time.

 

Sure, she did look foolish last year.

But she was probably just repeating things that she had been told at an earlier point (when doctors were basically just guessing as well).

 

What she's saying in the actual JDM article is likely accurate (same for the Denver treatment she talked about earlier).

It's just that a lot of international outlets picked up on it (probably because of the death rumours) and mistranslated/lost context.

 

Linda probably does call Claudette semi-regularly.

I doubt she gets any intimate details, but a general update.

So as sad as it is, she's probably our best source right now.

As Alex_incognito has said: At least she's saying something.

 

On the one hand - yes; we're worried, we'd like to know more. On the other, it seems that Céline's silence is even more eloquent in the present circumstances. In recent years, it's been the rule: when she was feeling better, she'd give a sign to say "I'm a little better, but...". When she didn't, she kept silent, and that's her sacred law. She was very courageous in publicly naming her illness (which increased the visibility of SPS by 28,000%!), whereas she could simply say "I have health problems, period". We're up to date with her diagnosis, so we can well imagine the reason for her silence.

 

As for Claudette, given her character, she probably only receives information that can be disseminated in the media. To Laurence Pieau and Hervé Tropéa she said that - when the situation was probably serious - she sometimes begged Linda by phone "Tell me the truth!" and received the answer: "No, no, don't worry".

 

Besides, if you had one sister who loved gossiping in the media and another who was loyal and discreet, there's no doubt which one you'd choose as your confidante. So yes, Claudette at least says "something", but from Céline's point of view, thank God Linda and Sylvie don't follow.

[comingback]

 

[KyleVan41]

And what does team Celine say ? 50% off my heart will go on T-shirt . Daft friggin morons

[Dancing_Queen]

On the one hand - yes; we're worried, we'd like to know more. On the other, it seems that Céline's silence is even more eloquent in the present circumstances. In recent years, it's been the rule: when she was feeling better, she'd give a sign to say "I'm a little better, but...". When she didn't, she kept silent, and that's her sacred law.

 

I beg to disagree.

At no point in the last 3 years did she give any update unless she absolutely had to (concert postponements/cancelations).

And the update was almost always 'I'm a little better, but...'

So while the silence is worrying because of the incertitude, I disagree that it speaks for itself.

She could be doing worse than before.

Or she could be doing as good as could be expected but without much change.

There's no direct reason for her to communicate unless there's a major change.

 

I do agree with what you said about Claudette:

Claudette will Claudette, so whatever they tell her is likely meant to be shared.

[Zofia]

I beg to disagree.

At no point in the last 3 years did she give any update unless she absolutely had to (concert postponements/cancelations).

And the update was almost always 'I'm a little better, but...'

So while the silence is worrying because of the incertitude, I disagree that it speaks for itself.

She could be doing worse than before.

Or she could be doing as good as could be expected but without much change.

There's no direct reason for her to communicate unless there's a major change.

 

I do agree with what you said about Claudette:

Claudette will Claudette, so whatever they tell her is likely meant to be shared.

 

That's why I'm not suggesting that silence equals deterioration; rather, the absence of improvement significant enough to reveal it in public, in keeping with her taste for always being "positive". It would be easy to do this indirectly, without making an appearance, given that Claudette - less wise but just as "positive" - sells even the content of their private conversations to the media. If Céline doesn't share anything, even indirectly, it's her right to privacy that's absolutely fundamental at a vulnerable time.

 

What's more, the evolution of this disease is very rarely linear, and in most cases it takes years for symptoms to stabilize.

 

One thing's for sure: the moment Claudette learns something positive, she's going to proclaim it to the world.

[KyleVan41]

I honestly don’t know what to Believe. If there’s nothing new to report in improvement wise I guess that explains the silence. And if the rest of the year is silent I presume perhaps I’m wrong about her returning in 2024; if ever…

[smw]

First and foremost, I hope Celine is able to get her symptoms under control and lead a comfortable and happy life.

 

For her career, I hope she’s able to engage in some ways… even if it’s not regularly performing. I hope she’s still able to sing, perhaps record new music, and make occasional appearances.

 

But knowing Celine, the idea of not being able to perform onstage anymore would be a tremendous loss in her life. I’m sure there’s an immense amount of grief she’s been facing on top of dealing with the physical nature of her disease.

 

It makes me sad to think they maybe still haven’t found any medication / treatment that works for her.

 

Edited August 5, 2023 at 06:39 PM by smw

[Zofia]

 

It makes me sad to think they maybe still haven't found any medication / treatment that works for her.

 

Fortunately, we don't know. It seems that the current media buzz is based on a misunderstanding of Claudette's words.

 

However, according to the experiences of other patients, attempts to find a combination of drugs and therapies that works take time; more often than not, we don't get results on the effectiveness of IVIG or plasma-exchange until several months into the treatment. What's also very frustrating is that the efficacy of a given method often ceases from one day to the next; this gives the impression that this disease is being treated somewhat blindly...

 

Let's hope she gets the best possible chance.

[idroveallnight]

Anyone else petrified right before they Google Celine? It’s really stressful with these news outlets reporting the worst. Yesterday, Celine was the lead story on Entertainment Tonight and they reported her prognosis as “grim.” I was gutted. They also reported Celine was “estranged” from Claudette. First time hearing Celine had issues with any of her siblings.

 

I thought it would be at least 20 years before we heard she would be slowing down, but alas, many of us who grew up with her and are still in our 30s thought we’d grow old with her. It’s just heartbreaking, especially seeing all these other pop stars on the biggest tours of their lives.

[PuraVida]

Fortunately, we don't know. It seems that the current media buzz is based on a misunderstanding of Claudette's words.

 

I don't even know what quote they are bungling... because what Claudette said was «On ne trouve pas de médicaments, mais donner de l’espoir, je trouve que c’est important» ... in other words... "We can't find medicine, but giving hope, I think it's important."

 

As in...Celine's family/friends/fans are not doctors, but they can support her and keep her optimistic. It makes me so mad how unchecked this clickbait is.

[Zofia]

I don't even know what quote they are bungling... because what Claudette said was «On ne trouve pas de médicaments, mais donner de l’espoir, je trouve que c’est important» ... in other words... "We can't find medicine, but giving hope, I think it's important."

 

As in...Celine's family/friends/fans are not doctors, but they can support her and keep her optimistic. It makes me so mad how unchecked this clickbait is.

 

This race after the click is already becoming grotesque, despite the sad nature of the subject. Claudette said precisely "On ne trouve pas de médicament" (the French pronoun "on" is complex: often it can be translated as "we", but often it denotes a more abstract or indefinite subject, "les gens" or "tout le monde"; so it could mean "we, the family", as you say, or "medicine", which isn't always able to cure this disease).

 

Yet the English-language media have falsified this simple phrase, completing it with a subordinate proposition: "that works", implicitly: "for her".

 

In this way, a general banality suddenly becomes topical, dramatic and personalized. Although Claudette's words date back to the beginning of July, they have become news and, through the English language, are repeated in the media all over the world. As a result, the French media don't quote Claudette at all in the original French version, but instead retranslate it from English: "Aucun médicament qui fonctionne" ("No drug that works": "Elle", "Sudinfo", "7sur7", "Soir mag" etc.), "Nous n'arrivons à trouver de traitement efficace" ("We can't find an effective treatment": "Gala", "Vanity Fair", "Reportages Photo" , "Marie France" etc.).

 

All in all, a fine piece of manipulation.