Céline has Stiff-Person Syndrome

[KyleVan41]

It was also Claudette & Co.:

 

Autumn 2021

"We're not worried because if it had been extremely serious, we'd know" ; "Premenopause, hormonal changes..."

Winter 2022

"She's doing great! She's just getting over her cramps"; "Céline has had a digestive problem for a long time, and this causes muscle spasms. But this illness is not serious. »

Autumn 2022

"You're going through menopause, stop dancing and ballet"; "The slope of the hall could have disturbed nerves or muscles in her pelvis"; "She's on the right track. She's recovering; she's being pampered"; "I always say that if Céline wasn't well, we'd know. It would be impossible for her not to tell us" ; "She's going to start performing again; I hear rehearsals are done and it's crazy!" Etc.

 

Claudette never stops being Claudette. Maybe she's got the "go ahead and be positive to cover up the rumors you've started" assignment.

 

From all her traditional blah-blah, I can only retain two things, one good and one bad: if it's true that Céline isn't sinking into depression, that's already excellent. But the phrase "we know that her illness is particularly difficult to treat" worries me: I see it as a veiled confirmation that, for the moment, they haven't managed to find a fully effective treatment.

 

The rest is little fact and much good intention, as usual.

 

SPS is hard to treat. That’s all she means 🙄

[Zofia]

SPS is hard to treat. That's all she means

 

It's obvious. But the important thing is context: you don't repeat a negative obvious fact for the umpteenth time if a symptomatic treatment starts to work well (which SPS patients can achieve, although the effect isn't always lasting).

 

In other words: if Claudette had learned that Céline was getting better, she wouldn't have mentioned the "particularly difficult treatment", but she would be jubilant at announcing an improvement. Her whole message is hope, not fact.

 

Fortunately, she probably doesn't know - as usual.

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

It's obvious. But the important thing is context: you don't repeat a negative obvious fact for the umpteenth time if a symptomatic treatment starts to work well (which SPS patients can achieve, although the effect isn't always lasting).

 

In other words: if Claudette had learned that Céline was getting better, she wouldn't have mentioned the "particularly difficult treatment", but she would be jubilant at announcing an improvement. Her whole message is hope, not fact.

 

Fortunately, she probably doesn't know - as usual.

 

Unless it’s just another clarification. “She’s doing better, but as we know this disease is not the easiest to treat.” Translations aren’t always the best.

[KyleVan41]

 

 

Unless it’s just another clarification. “She’s doing better, but as we know this disease is not the easiest to treat.” Translations aren’t always the best.

 

Exactly and as we’ve read a million times before her direct team - Barnev and resorts world president have stated is doing better. Hasn’t been elaborated on but that has been stated. Further more team Celine would never ever use verbiage such as “we have every hope that someday 🔜 Celine will visit all of these cities “ (or ) Celine’s words “I can’t wait to see you on stage “ “in person” etc etc etc if her situation was so dire. I truly believe they would never use such language.

Edited August 19, 2023 at 03:44 PM by KyleVan41

[Zofia]

Translations aren't always the best.

 

Exactly. That's why it's always best to refer to the original: "Céline va du mieux qu’elle peut " doesn't mean "well", but "as well as possible in her situation", "as far as possible".

 

What amazes me every time, when we analyze her words like the Bible, is not Claudette herself, but a phenomenon much more complex than her: how can someone who seems to have lost all credibility - because of all the drivel and nonsense previously produced in the media - suddenly become credible again only because she says (or seems to say) exactly what we want to hear?

 

A thousand times her "information" has proved to be inaccurate. I can even understand her: at the sight of a microphone, she becomes incapable of saying "I don't know". Once she says "I don't know", she risks no longer being harassed by the media. A mortal peril for an addict like her.

 

In the end, I understand Claudette better than those who take her seriously.

[québecflower]

Exactly. That's why it's always best to refer to the original: "Céline va du mieux qu’elle peut " doesn't mean "well", but "as well as possible in her situation", "as far as possible".

 

What amazes me every time, when we analyze her words like the Bible, is not Claudette herself, but a phenomenon much more complex than her: how can someone who seems to have lost all credibility - because of all the drivel and nonsense previously produced in the media - suddenly become credible again only because she says (or seems to say) exactly what we want to hear?

 

A thousand times her "information" has proved to be inaccurate. I can even understand her: at the sight of a microphone, she becomes incapable of saying "I don't know". Once she says "I don't know", she risks no longer being harassed by the media. A mortal peril for an addict like her.

 

In the end, I understand Claudette better than those who take her seriously.

She said that Celine sang to her on the phone. I don't think it is an invention. . Did Claudette killed your baby dog or something, as we say Décroche.

[Peppercorn1991]

I’m not sure if the translation sometimes makes the statements seem different than they are supposed to be from

Claudette.

 

Kev x

[RosieBarron]

She said that Celine sang to her on the phone. I don't think it is an invention. . Did Claudette killed your baby dog or something, as we say Décroche.

 

Exactly. Although Claudette has history when it comes to inaccurate info this time it rings true. Several of us on here can also read the original French version with no translator needed. It feels like some people just don't want to find positives and focus solely on the negative.

[incognito]

She said that Celine sang to her on the phone. I don't think it is an invention. . Did Claudette killed your baby dog or something, as we say Décroche.

 

Claudette hit Céline over the head with a shovel in a dream I had in 1998. I’ve never forgiven her for it.

[Jeanette]

The Mirror newspaper here in the UK are now running a story with the headline that reads “it’s unlikely Celine will ever sing in public again”. Honestly, the very thought of that kills me!

 

It’s just all the negativity going around in the media at the moment, it’s not nice. I just wish we could get some update on how she’s really doing, even through her team would suffice, it doesn’t need to be directly from her.

 

We just all care for her deeply and are rightly worried for her 😞

[RosieBarron]

 

 

Claudette hit Céline over the head with a shovel in a dream I had in 1998. I’ve never forgiven her for it.

 

That is very big of you. A fine example to all of us.

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

Claudette hit Céline over the head with a shovel in a dream I had in 1998. I’ve never forgiven her for it.

 

OMFG

 

:sofunny:

Edited August 20, 2023 at 06:29 AM by CelinesDIVO5

[maki_Dion-er]

Maybe Céline will come back in 2026 when her $500 million contract with Rob Prinz will end ...

 

It may just be me gulping down a big glass of copium with a side of delusion but...I've also had this thought.

 

Like, what if she's just waiting out the contract that she wanted to get out of and even went into a lawsuit over.

 

I just want her to be okay.

Thinking that her illness is not as severe as other patients may suffer also helps. Until we have news otherwise I chose to be as positive as possible.

Bad news travels fast afterall.

[scielle]

Maybe Céline will come back in 2026 when her $500 million contract with Rob Prinz will end ...

It may just be me gulping down a big glass of copium with a side of delusion but...I've also had this thought.

 

Like, what if she's just waiting out the contract that she wanted to get out of and even went into a lawsuit over.

 

 

What makes you think she wanted to get out of it? I highly doubt that's the case, given it's one of the most lucrative live performance contracts ever.

And the contract is with AEG, not ICM or Rob Prinz (in fact her lack of an actual contract with him was part of the problem...)

 

At issue was ICM's/ Rob Prinz's commission for brokering it, which Deloitte told her was excessive, which is what instigated the dispute. But that's settled and she already paid out, presumably, given the Labor Commissioner's ruling was in his favor, so it's water under the bridge. But the payment (or non-payment) of that commission has no impact on the Omnibus deal itself.

Edited August 21, 2023 at 02:48 AM by scielle

[KyleVan41]

I wonder if she’s already had a stem cell transplant and they’re waiting the results and then announce ifs success …that would explain her not attending anything

 

CTV had an Article from 2014 in which two women both with SPS severe had stem cell transplants and were completely cured . Back to baseline before SPS. It’s quite remarkable when it works

Edited August 24, 2023 at 06:42 PM by KyleVan41

[Nmj]

I wonder if she’s already had a stem cell transplant and they’re waiting the results and then announce ifs success …that would explain her not attending anything

 

CTV had an Article from 2014 in which two women both with SPS severe had stem cell transplants and were completely cured . Back to baseline before SPS. It’s quite remarkable when it works

 

One could hope.

[joaofilho]

We have no news of his treatment.

Transplantation is a studied alternative, but it restarts the body, as if the person had become a baby, with new cells.

I was reading the transplant doesn't cure the disease, it just removes the symptoms for a few years and soon it can come back.

I hope to hear from Celine soon, I miss her, I hope she has more quality of life.

[alltheway0384]

everyone really needs to stop hoping for celine to come back. I know from certain sources, from several contacts at Sony that the team is preparing to issue an official press release in the coming months to announce the cessation and end of Céline's career and her retirementdefinitive of the media environment. his state of health is not improving at all, contrary to what his sister Claudette has told us. from this source I can tell you that Mr. Dave Plattel and the only remaining member and that the rest of the teams have been thanked (thearchivists, stylist, press officer, official photographer, as well as these choristers). they have closed the offices in Montreal, and all their archives have been stored in containers in Las Vegas for the time being. Sylvie Beauregard currently rules everything that is administrative and should leave afterwards, Mia Dumont was also thanked as well as Denis Savage.

they just called an L.A. communication box regarding social networks. all that to say that we must stopwith your hopes for a comeback and a stage.Céline's career is coming to an end.

i'm not asking anyone to believe what i'm saying, but my sources are very reliable and i can assure you that celine will not return to the media scene. a weariness probably also for many years.

 

[ivo]

everyone really needs to stop hoping for celine to come back. I know from certain sources, from several contacts at Sony that the team is preparing to issue an official press release in the coming months to announce the cessation and end of Céline's career and her retirementdefinitive of the media environment. his state of health is not improving at all, contrary to what his sister Claudette has told us. from this source I can tell you that Mr. Dave Plattel and the only remaining member and that the rest of the teams have been thanked (thearchivists, stylist, press officer, official photographer, as well as these choristers). they have closed the offices in Montreal, and all their archives have been stored in containers in Las Vegas for the time being. Sylvie Beauregard currently rules everything that is administrative and should leave afterwards, Mia Dumont was also thanked as well as Denis Savage.

they just called an L.A. communication box regarding social networks. all that to say that we must stopwith your hopes for a comeback and a stage.Céline's career is coming to an end.

i'm not asking anyone to believe what i'm saying, but my sources are very reliable and i can assure you that celine will not return to the media scene. a weariness probably also for many years.

 

Only thing I can say: I pray this is not true, it is too devastating.

[KyleVan41]

everyone really needs to stop hoping for celine to come back. I know from certain sources, from several contacts at Sony that the team is preparing to issue an official press release in the coming months to announce the cessation and end of Céline's career and her retirementdefinitive of the media environment. his state of health is not improving at all, contrary to what his sister Claudette has told us. from this source I can tell you that Mr. Dave Plattel and the only remaining member and that the rest of the teams have been thanked (thearchivists, stylist, press officer, official photographer, as well as these choristers). they have closed the offices in Montreal, and all their archives have been stored in containers in Las Vegas for the time being. Sylvie Beauregard currently rules everything that is administrative and should leave afterwards, Mia Dumont was also thanked as well as Denis Savage.

they just called an L.A. communication box regarding social networks. all that to say that we must stopwith your hopes for a comeback and a stage.Céline's career is coming to an end.

i'm not asking anyone to believe what i'm saying, but my sources are very reliable and i can assure you that celine will not return to the media scene. a weariness probably also for many years.

 

What a pile of horse s*** 🙄

[alltheway0384]

 

 

What a pile of horse s*** 🙄

 

And you, what a lack of respect to address people like that. you don't have to believe it but you'll see, wait a bit and you'll be sure to see that these are real facts and not rumours. people have contacts and are aware of many more things than you surely.

[comingback]

everyone really needs to stop hoping for celine to come back. I know from certain sources, from several contacts at Sony that the team is preparing to issue an official press release in the coming months to announce the cessation and end of Céline's career and her retirementdefinitive of the media environment. his state of health is not improving at all, contrary to what his sister Claudette has told us. from this source I can tell you that Mr. Dave Plattel and the only remaining member and that the rest of the teams have been thanked (thearchivists, stylist, press officer, official photographer, as well as these choristers). they have closed the offices in Montreal, and all their archives have been stored in containers in Las Vegas for the time being. Sylvie Beauregard currently rules everything that is administrative and should leave afterwards, Mia Dumont was also thanked as well as Denis Savage.

they just called an L.A. communication box regarding social networks. all that to say that we must stopwith your hopes for a comeback and a stage.Céline's career is coming to an end.

i'm not asking anyone to believe what i'm saying, but my sources are very reliable and i can assure you that celine will not return to the media scene. a weariness probably also for many years.

 

Sorry, but it's nothing new. They reported that Celine put her daily business on ice and that Montreal's archives are in Vegas early this year. And I don't think that a silent goodbye/retirement is the way Celine would say Bye Bye to the fans. We will see. I'm looking forward to the D'eux Tribute Show.

Edited August 25, 2023 at 06:20 PM by comingback

[KyleVan41]

 

 

And you, what a lack of respect to address people like that. you don't have to believe it but you'll see, wait a bit and you'll be sure to see that these are real facts and not rumours. people have contacts and are aware of many more things than you surely.

 

I also know things and have been in direct contact with a Las Vegas journalist. But I don’t come on here to spew things until they are officially confirmed. And you- are full of b.s. furthermore what you have said flies directly in the face of how Celine has handled this to date. So stop. Please .

Edited August 25, 2023 at 09:05 PM by KyleVan41

[Nmj]

 

 

I also know things and have been in direct contact with a Las Vegas journalist. But I don’t come on here to spew things until they are officially confirmed. And you- are full of b.s. furthermore what you have said flies directly in the face of how Celine has handled this to date. So stop. Please .

 

Has your contacts said any eminent goodbye is near?

[KyleVan41]

 

 

Has your contacts said any eminent goodbye is near?

 

Nope.

[Nmj]

 

 

Nope.

 

[Squall]

I don't think anybody can say her career is over. I know it seems like Celine has been gone for forever but really it hasn't been that long since she was diagnosed. Even if it's true that she hasn't been responding well to treatments, that doesn't mean she won't start responding to other treatments in the future. She's still young with a lot of life to live. They're not going to give up on her and I know she'll never give up. I know if there's anyway she can record again or perform again, she will do everything she can to get to that point. It may not happen within the next year, or five years, or ten years. But I don't think ANYBODY should give up hope for her.

[maki_Dion-er]

 

 

Nope.

 

But how would they know what is coming? Are they in close contact with Celine or her people.

 

I don't believe she's retiring yet. She wouldn't need to wait months to announce this as the other poster says. She would just release a statement at any moment imo.

But I'm still skeptical of any source that isn't someone that is in direct contact with her and/or her team.

[idroveallnight]

everyone really needs to stop hoping for celine to come back. I know from certain sources, from several contacts at Sony that the team is preparing to issue an official press release in the coming months to announce the cessation and end of Céline's career and her retirementdefinitive of the media environment. his state of health is not improving at all, contrary to what his sister Claudette has told us. from this source I can tell you that Mr. Dave Plattel and the only remaining member and that the rest of the teams have been thanked (thearchivists, stylist, press officer, official photographer, as well as these choristers). they have closed the offices in Montreal, and all their archives have been stored in containers in Las Vegas for the time being. Sylvie Beauregard currently rules everything that is administrative and should leave afterwards, Mia Dumont was also thanked as well as Denis Savage.

they just called an L.A. communication box regarding social networks. all that to say that we must stopwith your hopes for a comeback and a stage.Céline's career is coming to an end.

i'm not asking anyone to believe what i'm saying, but my sources are very reliable and i can assure you that celine will not return to the media scene. a weariness probably also for many years.

 

Sorry, I don’t believe this for a second. No one in Hollywood ever announces the “end of their career” and if they do, they’re on a farewell tour for 10+ years like Cher and Elton John to milk every penny out of it. Celine can appear on stage and lip her way through a concert and we will all still show up and make the greedy Vegas execs very happy.

 

Ending office leases and putting people on notice means nothing these days with everyone working virtually and quiet quitting. Plus, Celine has become quite the saver since Rene’s passing, selling off properties and such. She’s consolidating assets and doesn’t want people unnecessarily on the payroll or waiting for her. They have lives and should be pursuing other ventures. Everyone in show business knows no gig is permanent.

[scielle]

Well it was reported in a Canadian music industry trade publication back in March that she’s “winding down her day-to-day business operations and laying off staff”, so that part is not exactly news.