Ukrfan Posted May 5, 2023 at 04:43 PM Posted May 5, 2023 at 04:43 PM This is not trule Celine-related, but a probable cause found for Parkinson's disease: https://www.helsinki.fi/en/news/brain/researchers-discover-potential-cause-parkinsons-disease The disease is primarily caused by environmental factors, that is, environmental exposure to the Desulfovibrio bacterial strains that cause Parkinson’s disease. Only a small share, or roughly 10%, of Parkinson’s disease is caused by individual genes,” says Professor Per Saris from the University of Helsinki. It does make me wonder, however, what causes SPS. Quote
Katie Posted May 5, 2023 at 07:53 PM Posted May 5, 2023 at 07:53 PM This is not trule Celine-related, but a probable cause found for Parkinson's disease: https://www.helsinki...kinsons-disease It does make me wonder, however, what causes SPS. Science is wonderful, science is reality...So sad this world has been foolished by Consipracists, Fake News Trollers etc...That's why I keep on saying that Céline's values, are in a way a tool to peace the herats up...We need to heal this madness that took us to very dangerous paths 2 Quote
scielle Posted May 7, 2023 at 01:04 PM Posted May 7, 2023 at 01:04 PM There's an SPS conference in Connecticut today: https://stiffpersonsupport.org/events/ It's interesting to look at the attendee list and how much longer it is this year - by a long shot! - than in years past. I wonder how much of that is due to Celine's announcement raising awareness, and a lot more people getting diagnosed quicker as a result (since previously, most doctors never heard of the disease and people went undiagnosed for years). 7 Quote
wjd Posted May 7, 2023 at 02:21 PM Posted May 7, 2023 at 02:21 PM The need for news is driving all of us insane. I find myself checking this website every day for updates, even though I don’t post here anymore really, in the hope that we get a little bit of something. It is Celine’s private business and I have no right to an update but when you’ve followed her for as long as I and others here have, you start to get a little restless - I hope she’s okay and I hope she’s pain free but the honest to god sense of loss at the thought we might never see her live again or hear newly recorded music is just horrible. I hope we get an update soon. 7 Quote Céline Dion, music's greatest ever singer, the biggest-selling Canadian artist of all-time and most successful female live act ever - what's not to love?
Zofia Posted May 7, 2023 at 04:38 PM Posted May 7, 2023 at 04:38 PM There's an SPS conference in Connecticut today: https://stiffpersonsupport.org/events/ It's interesting to look at the attendee list and how much longer it is this year - by a long shot! - than in years past. I wonder how much of that is due to Celine's announcement raising awareness, and a lot more people getting diagnosed quicker as a result (since previously, most doctors never heard of the disease and people went undiagnosed for years). For the moment, Céline’s role in raising awareness is immense: “She is inspiring many SPS patients to share their stories. According to search data, exposure to The SPSRF increased by 28,000% in December” (https://stiffperson.org/2023/02/26/remember-the-zebras/); we talk about “the Céline Effect” (https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/celine-dion-has-ensured-stiff-person-syndrome-awareness-day-is-recognized). There are even first scientific papers on its impact: https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/20/3/1936 I wonder if she will ever find the strength to take on her new role as an icon of a “orphan disease”. Of course no one is obliged to make their fight public and her decision will be strictly private. But in the case of active people accustomed to public life, it can help them overcome their ordeal, by making sense to what they are going through. However it is only - as the patients say – “the light at the other end of the tunnel”, and just after such a diagnosis everyone first asks: "Should I go into the tunnel? maybe I'll manage to go back instead of going all the way? Give me back my life!”... and it takes time to reorient, refocus and adapt. Sigh. I only hope that she is well surrounded and that she finds the best support among the relatives and the medical staff. 4 Quote
scielle Posted May 8, 2023 at 11:55 PM Posted May 8, 2023 at 11:55 PM (edited) A Journal de Montreal article from Denise Bombardier: https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/05/08/notre-celine-est-devenue-une-enigme She’s worried Céline has fallen off the radar, is isolated in Vegas, “a prisoner of forced solitude”, her voice is unrecognizable on these new songs, her film was demolished by Variety and performed poorly at box office, and is generally sad and worried that she has no one to support her and help her… Edited May 9, 2023 at 12:07 AM by scielle Quote
CelineTheBest5 Posted May 9, 2023 at 12:06 AM Posted May 9, 2023 at 12:06 AM This woman is ridiculous and jealous. She travelled with Celine’s crew in TC tour and wrote a biography totally sensationalist and mediocre, and she’s doing it again! A Journal de Montreal article from Denise Bombardier: https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/05/08/notre-celine-est-devenue-une-enigme She’s worried Céline has fallen off the radar, is isolated in Vegas, “a prisoner of forced solitude”, her voice is unrecognizable on these new songs, her film was demolished by Variety and performed poorly at box office, and is generally sad and worried. 1 Quote https://www.facebook...linedionbrazil/
scielle Posted May 9, 2023 at 12:08 AM Posted May 9, 2023 at 12:08 AM (edited) This woman is ridiculous and jealous. She travelled with Celine’s crew in TC tour and wrote a biography totally sensationalist and mediocre, and she’s doing it again! I thought it was a great biography, probably the best book on Céline along with Carl Wilson’s. And I’ve never seen “jealousy” in anything she has written about Céline, mostly genuine respect bordering on reverence. Edited May 9, 2023 at 12:11 AM by scielle 1 Quote
KyleVan41 Posted May 9, 2023 at 12:17 AM Posted May 9, 2023 at 12:17 AM This woman is ridiculous and jealous. She travelled with Celine’s crew in TC tour and wrote a biography totally sensationalist and mediocre, and she’s doing it again! This woman is insane. Did she not watch Celine’s video indicating she’s focusing on her treatment? I guess she’s desperate for news like all of us but has went about it in a ridiculous manner. I don’t like her tone especially Rene would die a second death. Bull s***. 3 Quote
Angel2006 Posted May 9, 2023 at 12:22 AM Posted May 9, 2023 at 12:22 AM A Journal de Montreal article from Denise Bombardier: https://www.journald...enue-une-enigme She's worried Céline has fallen off the radar, is isolated in Vegas, "a prisoner of forced solitude", her voice is unrecognizable on these new songs, her film was demolished by Variety and performed poorly at box office, and is generally sad and worried that she has no one to support her and help her… Is Celine's voice really unrecognizable in these new songs? I haven't listened to them yet. Have only listened to Love Again. I want to wait until I have the CD in my hands to hear the rest of the songs. People on this forum were saying how I'll Be sounds like early 2000's Celine and could easily be on the One Heart album. That's a very different opinion from what Denise Bombardier is saying. Unrecognizable. Wow. I highly doubt that. Thoughts? 1 Quote
scielle Posted May 9, 2023 at 12:22 AM Posted May 9, 2023 at 12:22 AM especially Rene would die a second death. Bull s***. Well wouldn’t he? Seeing her like this? Sick, isolated, lonely, unable to do what she loves… it would break his heart. 1 Quote
incognito Posted May 9, 2023 at 12:37 AM Posted May 9, 2023 at 12:37 AM Or maybe somebody is jealous that Céline is doing a new book with somebody else. Maybe she pitched to write an authorized biography and was declined. This entire article just seems strangely bitter. Céline is sick…what does she expect her to do…post videos on socials constantly updating us? That wouldn’t be helpful if this condition is exacerbated by stress. 1 Quote
mebe Posted May 9, 2023 at 12:42 AM Posted May 9, 2023 at 12:42 AM Is Celine's voice really unrecognizable in these new songs? I haven't listened to them yet. Have only listened to Love Again. I want to wait until I have the CD in my hands to hear the rest of the songs. People on this forum were saying how I'll Be sounds like early 2000's Celine and could easily be on the One Heart album. That's a very different opinion from what Denise Bombardier is saying. Unrecognizable. Wow. I highly doubt that. Thoughts?You are right. I think the critics exaggerate when they say her voice is unrecognizable ! I wouldn't say that. Her voice is changing and it's just normal. That's all!! Envoyé de mon SM-A526W en utilisant Tapatalk 1 Quote
scielle Posted May 9, 2023 at 12:48 AM Posted May 9, 2023 at 12:48 AM Or maybe somebody is jealous that Céline is doing a new book with somebody else. Maybe she pitched to write an authorized biography and was declined. This entire article just seems strangely bitter. Maybe. Does it sound bitter though? My takeaway from reading that was just general sadness and worry that we’re all feeling right now. But maybe my French is not good enough to pick up the undertones. Quote
Nmj Posted May 9, 2023 at 12:49 AM Posted May 9, 2023 at 12:49 AM You are right. I think the critics exaggerate when they say her voice is unrecognizable ! I wouldn't say that. Her voice is changing and it's just normal. That's all!! Envoyé de mon SM-A526W en utilisant Tapatalk Is Celine's voice really unrecognizable in these new songs? I haven't listened to them yet. Have only listened to Love Again. I want to wait until I have the CD in my hands to hear the rest of the songs. People on this forum were saying how I'll Be sounds like early 2000's Celine and could easily be on the One Heart album. That's a very different opinion from what Denise Bombardier is saying. Unrecognizable. Wow. I highly doubt that. Thoughts? It’s clearly Celine in these songs only difference I hear from courage album is no “bedroom voice” it’s not like she’s held long notes for the most part now since the 2008ish 1 Quote
incognito Posted May 9, 2023 at 01:14 AM Posted May 9, 2023 at 01:14 AM Maybe. Does it sound bitter though? My takeaway from reading that was just general sadness and worry that we’re all feeling right now. But maybe my French is not good enough to pick up the undertones. I took it as kicking somebody when they were down. Maybe her keeping a distance from people/isolating is out of medical necessity. We just don’t know. I think things are too up in the air and we all know too little for articles like that to be worthwhile. If she cancels this tour which I think most of us feel is coming any day now…then maybe press for more answers and speculate whether she’s going about all this in the right way but it just seems a little tactless as is. 1 Quote
beeb Posted May 9, 2023 at 01:48 AM Posted May 9, 2023 at 01:48 AM Maybe. Does it sound bitter though? My takeaway from reading that was just general sadness and worry that we’re all feeling right now. But maybe my French is not good enough to pick up the undertones. Quote
beeb Posted May 9, 2023 at 01:51 AM Posted May 9, 2023 at 01:51 AM This reminded me of an article Denise Bombardier wrote in 2014 around the time Celine paused performing to care for René. The 2014 article wrote of Celine and René having an inviolable intimacy and needing silence and space to contemplate what they were undergoing. It makes me wonder if there could be some similarities to what’s happening now, though we of course don’t know. https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2014/08/14/le-silence-de-celine 1 Quote
Zofia Posted May 9, 2023 at 07:35 AM Posted May 9, 2023 at 07:35 AM It seems interesting to me how Denise Bombardier omits the whole so-called "Célinaissance" period: it goes from the death of René directly to the "disturbing photos" and the current decline. It reminds me that she was on the same wavelength with René rather than with Céline. Really her biography was much better than most other books devoted to Céline (moreover Denise Bombardier mentions C. in other of her books, among others “Le Dictionnaire amoureux du Québec”, 2014, or “Une vie sans peur et sans regret”, 2019, and always does so with remarkable enthusiasm and relevance), but this famous interview for TV5 (“A cœur ouvert”, 2008) of which Bombardier was so proud is IMO the worst that Céline has ever given. As if the presence of the writer put Céline back in her complexes, she sounds so fake, no chemistry between the two…On his side, René needed Bombardier in order to have Céline recognized by intellectuals, but perhaps also in order to legitimize his relationship with C. in the face of certain assumptions that made him a groomer of the young girl (Denise was in the best position for this as a person exceptionally sensitive to such abuse, especially after the "Matzneff affair" in 1990). 1 Quote
Chantemoi Posted May 9, 2023 at 07:43 AM Posted May 9, 2023 at 07:43 AM (edited) A Journal de Montreal article from Denise Bombardier: https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/05/08/notre-celine-est-devenue-une-enigme She’s worried Céline has fallen off the radar, is isolated in Vegas, “a prisoner of forced solitude”, her voice is unrecognizable on these new songs, her film was demolished by Variety and performed poorly at box office, and is generally sad and worried that she has no one to support her and help her… The only shocking thing about this article is her boldness to speak up about her worry for Céline. Denise hasn’t said anything in this article that hasn’t been repeated ad nauseam on this forum over the past 3 years, and it’s clear to me that she’s concerned for Céline’s mental/spiritual health. As far as the comments about her new music… In fact, I made my own post in the LA OST thread about her voice having lost almost everything that made it so recognizable. Yes, it’s a completely natural thing, but paired with this “fresh” sound it does make for a striking listening experience. I went to see the movie with my mom (who became a fan osmotically through me while I was growing up) and I’m 100% positive she did not recognize the new songs were Céline singing (since I didn’t point it out to her) —“Love Again” being the exception, because it was played during the credits. I do think this is a different issue than Céline’s isolation, but maybe it took hearing the new music for Denise to feel compelled to speak up. She never said she didn’t like the new songs — I just get the sense that she thinks Céline is struggling with her identity now that René and her mom are gone. Which, I find, is a normal reaction to grief for many people who lose “two pillars” of their life. The radio silence with the public has created a vacuum for lies and misinformation to grow and taint Céline’s legacy, and I think that’s the motivation behind Denise writing this article. Edited May 9, 2023 at 07:45 AM by Chantemoi Quote
Ajax Posted May 9, 2023 at 07:43 AM Posted May 9, 2023 at 07:43 AM (edited) You are right. I think the critics exaggerate when they say her voice is unrecognizable ! I wouldn't say that. Her voice is changing and it's just normal. That's all!! Envoyé de mon SM-A526W en utilisant Tapatalk Only 2 critics spoke about her voice being unrecognizable, I find it interesting, while I don’t really agree. Well I m really into dissecting her voice as this is what I’m here for, I think I’m usually quite critic about it but here I don t really see the point. I mean those songs are really modern pop songs with reverb and auto tuned for sure but in my opinion nothing more than all those other pop songs she made since ANDHC. And as many here I would say that she sounds in better condition (tone is lovely and clear, she sounds in control and quite powerful without forcing, the agility seems to be here, the prononciation is ok… that wasn’t t always the case in the past) also once again for this kind of pop song I don’t find her voice overly produced or autotuned, not much in comparison to One hear You and I, courage and so on… I would say that those reactions are more related to a cognitive bias as we know she is sick. And we don t even know if those songs where recorded before she got ill Edited May 9, 2023 at 07:44 AM by Ajax 1 Quote
mirage Posted May 9, 2023 at 09:04 PM Posted May 9, 2023 at 09:04 PM Not the first one talking about her 'unrecognizable' voice since her disease. So funny, since for the most of us she sounds like 'the old' Céline. No bedroom voice, no Sia impersonation. And here the critics are talking how her voice must have changed because she is ill. A Journal de Montreal article from Denise Bombardier: https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/05/08/notre-celine-est-devenue-une-enigme She’s worried Céline has fallen off the radar, is isolated in Vegas, “a prisoner of forced solitude”, her voice is unrecognizable on these new songs, her film was demolished by Variety and performed poorly at box office, and is generally sad and worried that she has no one to support her and help her… Quote
Peppercorn1991 Posted May 9, 2023 at 09:45 PM Posted May 9, 2023 at 09:45 PM It’s very funny that now she is ill they listen to her voice to pick fault as they have this in their minds. Typical nonsense of people who can’t think logically and only follow a narrative. Kev x 2 Quote
jolo87 Posted May 9, 2023 at 11:01 PM Posted May 9, 2023 at 11:01 PM This reminded me of an article Denise Bombardier wrote in 2014 around the time Celine paused performing to care for René. The 2014 article wrote of Celine and René having an inviolable intimacy and needing silence and space to contemplate what they were undergoing. It makes me wonder if there could be some similarities to what’s happening now, though we of course don’t know. https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2014/08/14/le-silence-de-celine Can anyone possibly post the text of the article? For some reason I can't access the link ... Quote
Zofia Posted May 9, 2023 at 11:18 PM Posted May 9, 2023 at 11:18 PM (edited) Can anyone possibly post the text of the article? For some reason I can't access the link ... Lundi, 8 mai 2023 19:30MISE À JOUR Lundi, 8 mai 2023 19:30 Denise Bombardier: Notre Céline est devenue une énigme Céline Dion a été une des plus grandes divas des temps modernes.La petite fille d’une famille pauvre de Charlemagne a réussi à atteindre les sommets de la gloire, grâce à sa voix et l’ardeur de son travailSymboliquement, elle est presque devenue aux yeux des Québécois une richesse naturelle au même titre que l’électricité pourrait-t-on dire.Depuis la mort des deux piliers de sa vie, son mari et gérant génial René Angélil et sa mère, Madame Dion, l’incarnation de la maîtresse femme et de la mère toute-puissante, Céline — notre Céline — s’est retrouvée prisonnière d’une solitude forcée.Depuis quelques années, elle disparaissait progressivement de la lumière qui l’a tant éclairée. Elle a traversé une période trouble où l’on publiait des photos d’elle qui dérangeaient ses fans.MaladiePuis, elle a disparu des radars. Jusqu’à ce qu’on apprenne que les médecins lui avaient diagnostiqué une maladie orpheline qui l’a enfermée dans son corps devenu source de douleurs intolérables.En fin de semaine, le film Aimer à nouveau dans lequel elle a accepté de jouer son propre rôle est sorti. Il vient d’être démoli par Variety, la référence absolue en matière de critique. Le film n’a recueilli que 2,4 millions de dollars au box-office nord-américain.Céline Dion dont la prestation ne dure que douze minutes y chante cinq nouvelles chansons qu’on a dû remasteriser. Hélas, on n’y reconnaît plus la voix unique de Céline.Tout cela pour dire que la star a perdu non seulement sa voix, mais avant tout l’appui de protecteurs qui auraient pu la mettre en garde. René Angélil, de là où il est désormais, en mourrait une seconde fois.Désertée par ceux qui auraient pu l’entourer pour la protéger, Céline Dion n’a apparemment plus personne pour lui porter secours. On se demande pourquoi d’autres divas de son époque, Barbara Streisand, Madonna et Lady Gaga, par exemple, ne sont pas à la merci du showbiz. Car elles continuent d’être encensées et respectées, réussissant ainsi à garder intact leur statut de diva.Vedette planétaireJ’ai fait le tour du monde avec Céline Dion et son équipe durant l’année 2008-2009. Même si j’étais sensibilisée à sa notoriété mondiale, je ne pouvais deviner la mesure de la reconnaissance et de l’affection qu’elle suscitait sur la planète.Accueillie à la fois comme une star mais aussi comme une personnalité incontournable par des dirigeants politiques et des élites artistiques en plus de ses millions de fans, Céline Dion n’avait de cesse de rappeler ses origines francophones. Elle a toujours insisté pour chanter une chanson en français que les spectateurs en Chine, en Corée du Sud, à Dubaï, à Londres, au Mexique et ailleurs reprenaient en cœur.Depuis quelques années, Céline Dion est devenue une énigme. Isolée dans le désert du Nevada, à quoi pense-t-elle ? Qui donc pourrait comprendre sa détresse et la libérer de cette noirceur du désert ?La petite fille de Charlemagne au Québec, devenue une icône mondiale riche et célèbre, se souvient-elle encore qu’elle a été autrefois une bagarreuse et une conquérante ? A-t-elle oublié qu’elle a su surmonter le trait si québécois, celui d’être né pour un petit pain et qu’elle a permis au Québec tout entier de frôler ne fût-ce qu’un instant la fierté d’être de sa famille ?Qu’elle sache que son isolement actuel nous attriste, nous peine et nous inquiète. Edited May 9, 2023 at 11:20 PM by Zofia 1 Quote
Ajax Posted May 10, 2023 at 08:49 AM Posted May 10, 2023 at 08:49 AM Lundi, 8 mai 2023 19:30MISE À JOUR Lundi, 8 mai 2023 19:30 Denise Bombardier: Notre Céline est devenue une énigme Céline Dion a été une des plus grandes divas des temps modernes.La petite fille d’une famille pauvre de Charlemagne a réussi à atteindre les sommets de la gloire, grâce à sa voix et l’ardeur de son travailSymboliquement, elle est presque devenue aux yeux des Québécois une richesse naturelle au même titre que l’électricité pourrait-t-on dire.Depuis la mort des deux piliers de sa vie, son mari et gérant génial René Angélil et sa mère, Madame Dion, l’incarnation de la maîtresse femme et de la mère toute-puissante, Céline — notre Céline — s’est retrouvée prisonnière d’une solitude forcée.Depuis quelques années, elle disparaissait progressivement de la lumière qui l’a tant éclairée. Elle a traversé une période trouble où l’on publiait des photos d’elle qui dérangeaient ses fans.MaladiePuis, elle a disparu des radars. Jusqu’à ce qu’on apprenne que les médecins lui avaient diagnostiqué une maladie orpheline qui l’a enfermée dans son corps devenu source de douleurs intolérables.En fin de semaine, le film Aimer à nouveau dans lequel elle a accepté de jouer son propre rôle est sorti. Il vient d’être démoli par Variety, la référence absolue en matière de critique. Le film n’a recueilli que 2,4 millions de dollars au box-office nord-américain.Céline Dion dont la prestation ne dure que douze minutes y chante cinq nouvelles chansons qu’on a dû remasteriser. Hélas, on n’y reconnaît plus la voix unique de Céline.Tout cela pour dire que la star a perdu non seulement sa voix, mais avant tout l’appui de protecteurs qui auraient pu la mettre en garde. René Angélil, de là où il est désormais, en mourrait une seconde fois.Désertée par ceux qui auraient pu l’entourer pour la protéger, Céline Dion n’a apparemment plus personne pour lui porter secours. On se demande pourquoi d’autres divas de son époque, Barbara Streisand, Madonna et Lady Gaga, par exemple, ne sont pas à la merci du showbiz. Car elles continuent d’être encensées et respectées, réussissant ainsi à garder intact leur statut de diva.Vedette planétaireJ’ai fait le tour du monde avec Céline Dion et son équipe durant l’année 2008-2009. Même si j’étais sensibilisée à sa notoriété mondiale, je ne pouvais deviner la mesure de la reconnaissance et de l’affection qu’elle suscitait sur la planète.Accueillie à la fois comme une star mais aussi comme une personnalité incontournable par des dirigeants politiques et des élites artistiques en plus de ses millions de fans, Céline Dion n’avait de cesse de rappeler ses origines francophones. Elle a toujours insisté pour chanter une chanson en français que les spectateurs en Chine, en Corée du Sud, à Dubaï, à Londres, au Mexique et ailleurs reprenaient en cœur.Depuis quelques années, Céline Dion est devenue une énigme. Isolée dans le désert du Nevada, à quoi pense-t-elle ? Qui donc pourrait comprendre sa détresse et la libérer de cette noirceur du désert ?La petite fille de Charlemagne au Québec, devenue une icône mondiale riche et célèbre, se souvient-elle encore qu’elle a été autrefois une bagarreuse et une conquérante ? A-t-elle oublié qu’elle a su surmonter le trait si québécois, celui d’être né pour un petit pain et qu’elle a permis au Québec tout entier de frôler ne fût-ce qu’un instant la fierté d’être de sa famille ?Qu’elle sache que son isolement actuel nous attriste, nous peine et nous inquiète. This article is absolutly CRAZY. It's a total nonsense. What the hell is happening to her ? Isn't she realising what she's telling is stupid and gross ? Gosh !She begins by telling that Céline is suffering and sick. Well that's right thank you, and then she is accusing her of isolating herself, being not able to sing anymore, and making bad choices. She is even implying that the choices she makes would make René die again. What the f*** ? How rude is that. She is NOT making choices, she is just being very sick and trying to get back in shape. Wow. And then she even says that women like Lady gaga and Mariah are still big Diva while Celine is dead to the public.I cannot by the level of stupidity and how rude she is. Denise is senile that's not possible. I can't imagine how Céline would be to read that. Denise is just accusing a sick woman of being sick. I really don't get her point. 2 Quote
alexceline Posted May 10, 2023 at 09:19 AM Posted May 10, 2023 at 09:19 AM Not every situation requires a thinkpiece. Denise could just send Céline a "thinking of you" card and move on. Everything else is in bad taste imo. 2 Quote
incognito Posted May 10, 2023 at 12:04 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 12:04 PM This article is absolutly CRAZY. It's a total nonsense. What the hell is happening to her ? Isn't she realising what she's telling is stupid and gross ? Gosh !She begins by telling that Céline is suffering and sick. Well that's right thank you, and then she is accusing her of isolating herself, being not able to sing anymore, and making bad choices. She is even implying that the choices she makes would make René die again. What the f*** ? How rude is that. She is NOT making choices, she is just being very sick and trying to get back in shape. Wow. And then she even says that women like Lady gaga and Mariah are still big Diva while Celine is dead to the public.I cannot by the level of stupidity and how rude she is. Denise is senile that's not possible. I can't imagine how Céline would be to read that. Denise is just accusing a sick woman of being sick. I really don't get her point. That’s how I felt about this too. 1 Quote
Zofia Posted May 10, 2023 at 12:26 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 12:26 PM Can anyone possibly post the text of the article? For some reason I can't access the link ... You were rather thinking of the 2014 article? here it is: 14 août 2014 Denise Bombardier : Le silence de Céline Celui qui a projeté la petite fille de Charlemagne au sommet de la gloire, qui lui a fait découvrir les secrets de la passion amoureuse, qui l’a admirée, protégée, bouleversée et lui a donné ces trois enfants si essentiels à sa vie est en train de livrer un combat quotidien contre la maladie dont le mot provoque peur et tremblement. Céline Dion et René Angélil sont aujourd’hui plongés au cœur du tragique indissociable de la vie même.Céline en perd littéralement la voix, mais surtout celle qui s’est livrée corps et âme à son public avec lequel elle n’a pas hésité à partager une intimité aux limites du tolérable choisit désormais de se réfugier dans le silence. Ce couple soudé pour le meilleur et le pire protège une part d’eux-mêmes qui n’appartient qu’à eux et à leurs très proches, c’est-à-dire à peu de gens étonnamment.Ils intuitionnent, à n’en point douter, qu’en affichant publiquement leur malheur ils risquent de se faire déposséder d’eux-mêmes. Car contrairement aux apparences, ils ont toujours été les gardiens les plus vigilants d’une intimité inviolable sans laquelle le succès les aurait dénaturés et leur aurait fait perdre cette authenticité au cœur de leur dynamique amoureuse et familiale.Dans les circonstances actuelles, l’expression populaire «The show must go on» n’a plus de sens. La vie et son mystère exigent du recueillement, du silence et de l’espoir, mais ces dispositions humaines s’accommodent mal de l’hystérie médiatique.Par respect pour Céline et René qui ont honoré le Québec avec tant de talent, de fougue et d’affection à travers la planète entière, il faut souhaiter que nos médias fassent preuve d’une retenue maximale dans sa couverture de cette période difficile et douloureuse dans la vie de ce couple mythique. https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2014/08/14/le-silence-de-celine Quote
Zofia Posted May 10, 2023 at 03:09 PM Posted May 10, 2023 at 03:09 PM This article is absolutly CRAZY. It's a total nonsense. What the hell is happening to her ? Isn't she realising what she's telling is stupid and gross ? Gosh !She begins by telling that Céline is suffering and sick. Well that's right thank you, and then she is accusing her of isolating herself, being not able to sing anymore, and making bad choices. She is even implying that the choices she makes would make René die again. What the f*** ? How rude is that. She is NOT making choices, she is just being very sick and trying to get back in shape. Wow. And then she even says that women like Lady gaga and Mariah are still big Diva while Celine is dead to the public.I cannot by the level of stupidity and how rude she is. Denise is senile that's not possible. I can't imagine how Céline would be to read that. Denise is just accusing a sick woman of being sick. I really don't get her point. It seems to me that Denise Bombardier got an idea of Céline: she spoke of her as a new national myth, useful for curing provincial complexes. Instead of choosing between the old ideal of loyalty to one's roots and the new model of hard work that leads to success - Céline succeeded in Denise's eyes in reconciling what was irreconcilable in traditional Quebec culture. She's talked about it many times in the past.But to assume the role of "national pride" it is necessary at all times to be recognized from the outside (by the critics, by the "elites" of which she speaks), hence her visible frustration, her obsession with "status" and awkward comparisons (to which is added perhaps a personal disappointment: the fact that Denise Bombardier was never admitted into Céline's innermost circle as his confidante or adviser).Ultimately, what strikes me is that Denise Bombardier seems to care more about his idea of Céline than Céline as a human being. And that despite appearances.This is why Céline's illness is not for her the real cause of her bad patch but rather one more episode - because for Denise Bombardier the bad patch begins with the death of the "genial René" (isn't it the opinion of part of the fandom?).All in all, it's quite bitter and unfair. Quote
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