Céline at Met Gala 2019, Monday 6th May - photos from page 6

[Shaun]

The reality is the lack of anything suggests her health isn’t improving. It may not be getting worse but it doesn’t look like it’s improving. What else are we meant to think at this point?

[KyleVan41]

The reality is the lack of anything suggests her health isn’t improving. It may not be getting worse but it doesn’t look like it’s improving. What else are we meant to think at this point?

 

I don’t know what to think but something is off. Big time

[Peppercorn1991]

It’s not our fault that we feel like this. We were told to wait for tickets…. And Celine said herself she was back. I understand that there may be reasons why it has not been possible but where is the update? Something, anything…

 

Even if Celine turns up at Eurovision, what does that mean for her career going forward? Probably a hug silence again until fans try to put two and two together to make zero. It’s a joke.

 

Kev x

[ryba]

What about that court case and the commissions issue until 2025? This might be the reason.

 

But what I don't understand is that they made promo for the new LV show in 2021 already, she was giving interviews during the pandemic announcing the show. And this is also when they finished filming her documentary, so she was already in a much better state. It's all very strange.

Edited May 6, 2025 at 06:34 PM by ryba

[Nmj]

I’m disappointed too and kept checking X last night hoping for an appearance when I should have been sleeping for work! The silence is beyond annoying! Why can’t they just give an update?

 

I keep thinking that maybe something big is around the corner and that it’s all a big secret. The reason we feel like that is because usually when artists are silent, something is going on…

 

But there seems to be no logic with this team.

 

I’m waiting for the “Celine doesn’t owe us anything, get on with your lives” comments to come next now a few people have spoken up today. It’s always the same and the cycle will go on. Those same people log in daily to see what’s new, and have just as much hope that Celine will return or share an update.

 

The social media posts are really a joke… I wouldn’t mind them if we actually had some real updates occasionally. I mean Celine can put out a statement about scammers but not about her career..

 

I actually thought before the documentary last year that Celine wasn’t bothered about her career anymore, because again there were no updates in so long. Then we get a number of interviews and the documentary where Celine said she is sorry for not sharing her struggles, and she misses her fans, her career and wants to continue…. In reality I have not seen this at all. We understand that Celine has this horrible disease and that things won’t be the same, and I think the fanbase and people generally have been really supportive. Again why is Celine not updating anyone what is going on? I don’t get it….

 

Or is Celine incapable of singing/performing and are they worried that if the news gets out, it will end her career. Only thing I can think of at this point….

 

Sorry for the rant everyone.

 

Kev x

 

I just wished someone read this forum…

 

If Celine is “incapable” of singing the bottom line is then she should’ve NEVER done the Olympics or Elie Saab show, don’t give us or yourself false hope. People already think those were “live”. It sends a mixed message.

 

She loves to say sorry for not reaching out and staying quiet, but unless there’s a documentary to promote she goes crickets again.

 

[mirage]

The reality is the lack of anything suggests her health isnt improving. It may not be getting worse but it doesnt look like its improving. What else are we meant to think at this point?

Remember that post for SPS Awareness Day?!

That sit down with her doctor?

 

It would be the opportunity to talk about it more. But it was just 1 minute of a lot and also nothing at the same time.

 

My guess they will give us something soon, just because they read along here.

 

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[Nmj]

Remember that post for SPS Awareness Day?!

That sit down with her doctor?

 

It would be the opportunity to talk about it more. But it was just 1 minute of a lot and also nothing at the same time.

 

My guess they will give us something soon, just because they read along here.

 

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Do they read here?

[Shaun]

We know, for a fact, Celine wants to return to the stage.

We know, for a fact, that there’s a theatre sitting waiting for her at Resorts World.

 

Why hasn’t there been anything announced? In my mind it can ONLY be related to her health situation.

 

What other reason can there be?

Edited May 6, 2025 at 07:17 PM by Shaun

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

I think the manager can only do so much unless the manager is a spouse like Rene was. I still want to know what happened to Aldo because for his short tenure he was working and booking and keeping her busy. I bet had he stayed her manager through the covid and SPS era it would’ve been different.

 

Aldo was involved in the lawsuit with ICM. He was a dirtbag.

[Nmj]

We know, for a fact, Celine wants to return to the stage.

We know, for a fact, that there’s a theatre sitting waiting for her at Resorts World.

 

Why hasn’t there been anything announced? In my mind it can ONLY be related to her health situation.

 

What other reason can there be?

 

We don’t know if her previous contract with RW is void and they are working out new monetary agreements or she could be shopping around venues (run by AEG) so not Caesars that we know…

 

Maybe part of her band/team moved on and they need to find some new help…?

 

Regardless, it’s time for an update.

 

 

[KyleVan41]

I get a feeling and maybe I’m wrong that she doesn’t want to go to resorts world. And maybe that’s the hang up contractually. And I agree that this Rob Prinz commissions through 2025 s*** show has something to do with this moreso than her health.

 

But it’s all still bizarre. She and or her team must update us.

[Nmj]

I get a feeling and maybe I’m wrong that she doesn’t want to go to resorts world. And maybe that’s the hang up contractually. And I agree that this Rob Prinz commissions through 2025 s*** show has something to do with this moreso than her health.

 

But it’s all still bizarre. She and or her team must update us.

 

Even if there’s some housekeeping with contracts going on which is the reason for the delay and that’s a big IF, The update is still overdue.

 

Anyways, Josh Groben is playing Caesar’s Palace Colosseum this week, maybe she’ll attend and get up and sing The Prayer with him….. yeah probably not but still one can hope .

 

Also, Kelly Clarkson is there beginning in June.

[No1IrishFan]

I get a feeling and maybe I’m wrong that she doesn’t want to go to resorts world. And maybe that’s the hang up contractually. And I agree that this Rob Prinz commissions through 2025 s*** show has something to do with this moreso than her health.

 

But it’s all still bizarre. She and or her team must update us.

 

I don’t think the silence is because she has an issue with RW. I feel Celine would honour her contract with RW even with all the hotel drama. She had a say in the theatre build and even with all the negative headlines, she knows her fans will still come and most people will separate Celine from the negative experiences in RW. Just a feeling.

[zuv]

 

 

I know I don’t like that. I feel used LOL…

 

That’s precisely why I haven’t supported her last few things, I won’t lie the last Celine thing I’ve bought was the Courage album and tour tickets.

 

The “I Am: Celine Dion” album was a slap in our faces, the Unison vinyl is nothing special. I won’t support things just because her names on it even though I’m a big fan for nearly 30 years. This “relationship” needs to feel less “transactional”. LOL

 

I totally agree… everything feels so transactional lately. I’m not even sure who’s to blame anymore… her team, who clearly only see dollar signs, or Celine herself for not stepping in to make it feel more authentic.

 

I’m with you. I actually stopped before you, at the Courage album. When I saw that the Courage World Tour barely featured songs from … Courage album (sometimes just one or two) I mentally checked out.

 

Now I kind of regret it… cause I was in Miami at the same time she was, and it turns out those were her last concerts ever.

Edited May 7, 2025 at 12:10 AM by zuv

[Nmj]

 

 

I totally agree… everything feels so transactional lately. I’m not even sure who’s to blame anymore… her team, who clearly only see dollar signs, or Celine herself for not stepping in to make it feel more authentic.

 

I’m with you. I actually stopped before you, at the Courage album. When I saw that the Courage World Tour barely featured songs from … Courage album (sometimes just one or two) I mentally checked out.

 

Now I kind of regret it… cause I was in Miami at the same time she was, and it turns out those were her last concerts ever.

 

I was able to see her Cleveland which was the very first US Stop, so it was nice to see… but yeah I felt the same way about the setlist now looking back I did. I hope it’s not her last concerts ever but at minimum I’m

Sure it’s the last time she’ll play a full length world tour. Or anywhere in my area.

[Ukrfan]

What about that court case and the commissions issue until 2025? This might be the reason.

 

But what I don't understand is that they made promo for the new LV show in 2021 already, she was giving interviews during the pandemic announcing the show. And this is also when they finished filming her documentary, so she was already in a much better state. It's all very strange.

 

You don't understand because while we've had a dozen of interviews and a whole documentary, we still don't know the timeframe of her SPS.

 

* she says it started with her voice in 2008,

 

* then she got babies and (I guess) was totally fine

 

* then she had Celine residency and clearly didn't really struggle vocally until 2013... when Rene got cancer

 

* then she returned to Vegas and her voice wasn't the same, yet she still sang MHWGO live for some time, and she still could sing during her summer tours

 

* then she started CWT, and it was obvious during some dates that she struggled (she said infection at that time, but I guess it was a lie as Celine herself admitted later)

 

* then COVID

 

* then they were preparing a new LV show, and what happens next is a mystery - even after the documentary

 

When did it start to affect her body rather than just vocal cords? She was running around in high heels during CWT, so I think her mobility wasn't affected at that time. Somewhere during COVID she got worse, and I believe she really got MUCH WORSE during fall 2021 (when her new show was supposed to start, and when they finally canceled a few weeks before). So strange that SPS took so many years to reveal itself and so suddenly.

 

And no one asked her during those interviews "When did it get worse?" or "When was the first time you had a crisis episode?"

 

Or did she have those episodes even before 2021 but they were rare? I somehow doubt it to be honest...

[ryba]

It all points to the fact that she has experienced heavy loss after all her important family members died and this affected her so much emotionally. Her voice got very raspy when Rene died. But somehow she tried to keep going for him to honour his legacy. But then people tried to take advantage of her, the Aldo problem and the legal court case. She all by herself with a huge empire. Then her mom died, and this is when it got very bad and she cancelled the Courage tour.

 

SPS or not, I think the tremendous amount of emotional stress was the reason. Her body couldn't handle all this any more.

Edited May 7, 2025 at 09:41 AM by ryba

[Ukrfan]

It all points to the fact that she has experienced heavy loss after all her important family members died and this affected her so much emotionally. Her voice got very raspy when Rene died. But somehow she tried to keep going for him to honour his legacy. But then people tried to take advantage of her, the Aldo problem and the legal court case. She all by herself with a huge empire. Then her mom died, and this is when it got very bad and she cancelled the Courage tour.

 

SPS or not, I think the tremendous amount of emotional stress was the reason. Her body couldn't handle all this any more.

 

It was definitely stress-related in 2015-2020, but it still seemed like only her vocal cords were affected during that time

 

Then it hit full-scale during COVID when Celine was (presumably) resting (remember that tree picture on IG...)

 

But I do wonder how close to New Las Vegas Show they were when SPS got worse.

[KyleVan41]

Don’t forget during COVID she sang the prayer with Andrea Boceilli and lady gaga and sounded amazing . The fundraiser she did from home

[ryba]

Don't forget during COVID she sang the prayer with Andrea Boceilli and lady gaga and sounded amazing . The fundraiser she did from home

Yeah, and nobody knew anything about SPS, she hasn't announced anything yet.

[Dancing_Queen]

In her book, Denise Bombardier already describes a spasm attack that Céline was having in Berlin in 2008 (see http://www.celinedio...10#entry2459143 in the SPS thread.

 

My theory is that Céline is being deliberately vague about the onset of her symptoms to avoid tricky questions about René's involvement..

Why did he keep pushing her professionally if it was taking such a grueling toll on her physical health? And did the medication start even then? (she goes out of her way to take all the blame in the Hoda-interview)

 

 

As to why she hasn't announced anything yet:

She could be undergoing a new treatment (which obviously would take priority).

Or it could be an insurance issue. Who's going to insure her when she all but admitted she would likely be cancelling shows at the last minute? I mean, she definitely should in her condition, but that's beside the point.

Edited May 7, 2025 at 12:13 PM by Dancing_Queen

[Alex_Incognito]

The worst thing is that they use that damn ABM lipped note to show how she "still had it" in the documentary.

[PuraVida]

You don't understand because while we've had a dozen of interviews and a whole documentary, we still don't know the timeframe of her SPS.

 

Yes it's pretty crazy that after all that, there are still so many huge questions. Decent journalism aside, the hardcore fans would've really appreciated a clearly timeline. For one...

 

How much did her band and especially her longtime backup vocalists know about her condition and the medication that whole time. Or Sony/AEG for that matter.

[Ukrfan]

Yes it's pretty crazy that after all that, there are still so many huge questions. Decent journalism aside, the hardcore fans would've really appreciated a clearly timeline. For one...

 

How much did her band and especially her longtime backup vocalists know about her condition and the medication that whole time. Or Sony/AEG for that matter.

 

I would imagine her band must have noticed it. Celine's never alone during the concert I think, even if she goes to change the costume, there are hairdresser and some stuff to help her. But I believe - if I was working for a singer like Celine and saw her taking medication - I wouldn't give this a second thought whatsoever. Surely, she must have had a visit with a great doctor, and they prescribed that pill.

 

One thing I also wondered - and I know this would never be publicly shared, of course - who was the doctor who prescribed Celine Valium initially? It's an RX drug, so she must have gotten it from a doc. And it's usually dosage-tracked, so if she was taking more than prescribed (as Celine herself admitted), wouldn't the doc know when she told them she needs a new script? Wasn't they concerned or was it just "do as the celebrity says" (which is so irresponsible).

 

I do like her current doctor. She seems very knowledgeable and kind, and reviews on her online are all very positive.

[zuv]

If you’re Michael and you want propofol, you’ll get propofol. If you’re Celine and want valium, you’ll get Valium.

[Nmj]

If you’re Michael and you want propofol, you’ll get propofol. If you’re Celine and want valium, you’ll get Valium.

 

And if your Bob, Joe, or Cindy and don’t have insurance in the states, you can’t get an advil after having your wisdom teeth removed.

 

Sad world we live in.

[jpatdeleon09]

 

 

That wasn’t a prediction… Celine herself, a year ago said “she’s already back”, and that she was planning a new show in Vegas, etc.

 

For whatever reason it hasn’t happened (yet)…. But not false hope when it came directly from the artist. Unless Celine herself had false hope and passed it on to us.

 

Yes, she was back since last year, since olympics nope since grammys. We got 2 performances and some appearances both private events and public (going on concerts from different artists)

 

The new show in Vegas. Didn’t they scrapped the old concept of the show? So, they made a new one. I think that’s where they slowed down in making a new concept for the new Vegas show. And the 2026 premiere makes sense.

Edited May 8, 2025 at 07:30 PM by jpatdeleon09

[jpatdeleon09]

The worst thing is that they use that damn ABM lipped note to show how she "still had it" in the documentary.

 

Not just that after the big note when she stopped singing and cried. It’s like the docu is showing that that’s the time she lost her voice lol

[jpatdeleon09]

In her book, Denise Bombardier already describes a spasm attack that Céline was having in Berlin in 2008 (see http://www.celinedio...10#entry2459143 in the SPS thread.

 

My theory is that Céline is being deliberately vague about the onset of her symptoms to avoid tricky questions about René's involvement..

Why did he keep pushing her professionally if it was taking such a grueling toll on her physical health? And did the medication start even then? (she goes out of her way to take all the blame in the Hoda-interview)

 

 

As to why she hasn't announced anything yet:

She could be undergoing a new treatment (which obviously would take priority).

Or it could be an insurance issue. Who's going to insure her when she all but admitted she would likely be cancelling shows at the last minute? I mean, she definitely should in her condition, but that's beside the point.

 

Didn’t they said before that the disease is so tricky that the diagnosis before may be different from the recent diagnosis since it’s rare so they don’t know what’s really causing it. It may act like a different illness like maybe just exhaustion from non stop tours?

[jpatdeleon09]

Actually, these speculations from fans are just symptoms of missing Celine so much, and the many appearances last year were not enough for most of us. And that’s her most public appearances since the pandemic.