Courage World Tour - EU shows CANCELED

[ryba]

 

 

I actually think it's more possible than other occupations/projects to do remotely in this day and age.

 

Even in 1998, Celine and Barbra recorded their parts separately to their song.

exactly! She has a home studio, can record all her vocals and send them for post production. The rest is handled separately in other studios anyway. Everything else can also be done via video conference. She did just that with The Prayer recently Edited May 4, 2020 at 02:37 PM by ryba

[couldawouldashoulda]

The way she talked about the number of songs she recorded over the past few years, she already has enough songs for another album, just like happened with One Heart.

[jpatdeleon09]

I actually think it's more possible than other occupations/projects to do remotely in this day and age.

 

Even in 1998, Celine and Barbra recorded their parts separately to their song.

 

You need staff that can record your vocals professionally. The question is who will do all of that? Can she record her own vocals? I think she needs to learn to be a producer too! So, her vocals/tone will be same in every album.

Edited May 4, 2020 at 02:39 PM by jpatdeleon09

[ryba]

The way she talked about the number of songs she recorded over the past few years, she already has enough songs for another album, just like happened with One Heart.

Imagine she would release these songs as a as surprise album during the pandemic with PMLALS as the lead single. people are at home and have time for enjoying music etc. and the new album could be a #1 with online promo and her best work since the 90s. Just imagine haha Edited May 4, 2020 at 02:57 PM by ryba

[Alex_Incognito]

If the Courage album isn’t the best collection of songs; imagine how poor the outtakes might be.

[ryba]

If the Courage album isn’t the best collection of songs; imagine how poor the outtakes might be.

I think that the other unreleased songs are just as good, but classy soaring ballads, like Ashes and PMLALS. Courage on the other hand was more modern and energetic, and that’s why the unreleased songs wouldn’t fit on Courage. Edited May 4, 2020 at 03:11 PM by ryba

[Shamrock_1982]

If she and her team were smart, they would really use this time wisely and record a new album now to have it ready by the time everything goes back to normal. Later on she won’t have the time to do it

 

That’s exactly the issue, they ain’t smart!

[PuraVida]

You need staff that can record your vocals professionally. The question is who will do all of that? Can she record her own vocals? I think she needs to learn to be a producer too! So, her vocals/tone will be same in every album.

 

We have definitely seen videos of her in the studio with just her and one other producer (either Umberto G. or David Foster).

 

Anyway, it's not impossible. Imagine: the owner of the studio goes in and unlocks session room. They call Celine who is waiting outside in the parking lot. She goes inside straight from her car and into the vocal booth. Then the producer who was waiting in their car in the parking lot walks in a few minutes later, going through the same door but stays on the other side of the glass on the production side. They then talk to each other through the mic system.

 

All the while maintaining social distance of 2m/6ft. It's not too difficult to imagine. Recording studios are very partitioned places.

Edited May 4, 2020 at 04:21 PM by PuraVida

[mirage]

Unfortunately true.

 

Perfect time to release the 2016/2017 tour.

Or Courage part II. Like she said she has many songs recorded and wanted to release an back to back album

 

But then again, she also said she wanted to record and Spanish album, and play in movies.

 

Still waiting...

 

 

 

That’s exactly the issue, they ain’t smart!

[DionFanAlways]

Orrrrrr she could just take the time to enjoy her kids and life.

 

Besides, it’s not like we would hear anything new live anyways.

[couldawouldashoulda]

Unfortunately true.

 

Perfect time to release the 2016/2017 tour.

Or Courage part II. Like she said she has many songs recorded and wanted to release an back to back album

 

But then again, she also said she wanted to record and Spanish album, and play in movies.

 

Still waiting...

 

Well...to be fair, she said the thing about wanting to record a Spanish album, what?....over 15 years ago? That was back when albums still made some money. In this day and age, it would make zero sense to record a Spanish album. English and French are all we're ever going to get at this point.

 

As for acting...well, she's not a good actress. I have a master's degree in Acting from one of the top 5 schools in the world and have made my living doing just that for my entire life. I have worked alongside and been directed by people who would probably make y'all's head spin if I wanted to disclose more of myself but, trust me...she would take A LOT of work to be anywhere near a decent actress. Doesn't mean it can't be done. And maybe one day, she'll want to prove herself and make it happen. I just don't know who would cast her in a film? What director would be willing to take a chance on her?

 

Cher's a terrific actress. Whitney proved to be so-so but mostly uncomfortable watching her try to "act" and Mariah was simply atrocious. I trust that anyone ever gave Celine the opportunity, she'd have the smarts to hire a coach and work on it. But, just like she's taking ballet lessons these days, she should start taking acting lessons if she ever really wants to do a film.

[jpatdeleon09]

 

 

We have definitely seen videos of her in the studio with just her and one other producer (either Umberto G. or David Foster).

 

Anyway, it's not impossible. Imagine: the owner of the studio goes in and unlocks session room. They call Celine who is waiting outside in the parking lot. She goes inside straight from her car and into the vocal booth. Then the producer who was waiting in their car in the parking lot walks in a few minutes later, going through the same door but stays on the other side of the glass on the production side. They then talk to each other through the mic system.

 

All the while maintaining social distance of 2m/6ft. It's not too difficult to imagine. Recording studios are very partitioned places.

 

Yeah! When there’s no pandemic/virus and no lockdown. It may happen.

 

Fans: What do you say to Taking Chances?

Céline: Eh.... NO! I have kids! I don’t want to take any risks

 

She can just make a Home-mini concert. At least, she’s not going anywhere. It’s much safer than going to recording studios with this pandemic happening.

Edited May 4, 2020 at 06:09 PM by jpatdeleon09

[PuraVida]

 

 

Yeah! When there’s no pandemic/virus and no lockdown. It may happen.

 

Fans: What do you say to Taking Chances?

Céline: Eh.... NO! I have kids! I don’t want to take any risks

 

She can just make a Home-mini concert. At least, she’s not going anywhere. It’s much safer than going to recording studios with this pandemic happening.

 

I’m not saying Céline would do it, but -theoretically- it could be done rather safely in a controlled, distanced manner. You implied it would take a handful of writers and producers all together in the room as it was with the Pavarotti recording or something. Not necessary in today’s world.

 

But yes, I would prefer she did something casual. Her signing acápella or with just a piano is better than everything else, anyway.

 

[jpatdeleon09]

 

 

I’m not saying Céline would do it, but -theoretically- it could be done rather safely in a controlled, distanced manner. You implied it would take a handful of writers and producers all together in the room as it was with the Pavarotti recording or something. Not necessary in today’s world.

 

But yes, I would prefer she did something casual. Her signing acápella or with just a piano is better than everything else, anyway.

 

“It could be done safely in a controlled, distanced manner.”

 

Still! LOL I won’t take that risks. Do that after the pandemic is over

Just to be sure

 

For now, stay at home.

Edited May 4, 2020 at 07:13 PM by jpatdeleon09

[mirage]

I honestly couldn't care if she retire now for the next 5 years or so, and completely went silent.

 

It's not much different than what she is doing for a while now.

 

And it's much easier to understand and live with knowing she just retires for a couple of years.

 

Rather than having the frustration of the lack of creativity, artistry and all the aspects of her career these days.

I can live without those fashion pictures, I can definitely live without those lame #ss lyric posts.

 

But 'knowing' her career is 'active' and she is just nowhere to be found, while these days everything is so accessible.

 

An mariah video singing for her fans to thank them is 100x times more exciting than another lyrical post of our dearest Céline.

[DionFanAlways]

Well...to be fair, she said the thing about wanting to record a Spanish album, what?....over 15 years ago? That was back when albums still made some money. In this day and age, it would make zero sense to record a Spanish album. English and French are all we're ever going to get at this point.

 

As for acting...well, she's not a good actress. I have a master's degree in Acting from one of the top 5 schools in the world and have made my living doing just that for my entire life. I have worked alongside and been directed by people who would probably make y'all's head spin if I wanted to disclose more of myself but, trust me...she would take A LOT of work to be anywhere near a decent actress. Doesn't mean it can't be done. And maybe one day, she'll want to prove herself and make it happen. I just don't know who would cast her in a film? What director would be willing to take a chance on her?

 

Cher's a terrific actress. Whitney proved to be so-so but mostly uncomfortable watching her try to "act" and Mariah was simply atrocious. I trust that anyone ever gave Celine the opportunity, she'd have the smarts to hire a coach and work on it. But, just like she's taking ballet lessons these days, she should start taking acting lessons if she ever really wants to do a film.

I may be totally wrong but I swear she said that she didn't think she needed acting lessons because she acts out her songs in a way.

[Xpresso]

I honestly couldn't care if she retire now for the next 5 years or so, and completely went silent.

 

It's not much different than what she is doing for a while now.

 

And it's much easier to understand and live with knowing she just retires for a couple of years.

 

Rather than having the frustration of the lack of creativity, artistry and all the aspects of her career these days.

I can live without those fashion pictures, I can definitely live without those lame #ss lyric posts.

 

But 'knowing' her career is 'active' and she is just nowhere to be found, while these days everything is so accessible.

 

An mariah video singing for her fans to thank them is 100x times more exciting than another lyrical post of our dearest Céline.

Well in that case nothing stops you from retiring from this forum for 5 years and move over to Mariah's forum to watch her video.

Sorry, just couldn't resist. But you can stay!

[mirage]

Hahaha it's definitely more exciting and more going on artist wise.

I think the arguments will stay the same

 

I guess I stay a bit, it's always 1 step forward, 2 steps back with Céline. So now it's time for that 1 step forward haha

 

Well in that case nothing stops you from retiring from this forum for 5 years and move over to Mariah's forum to watch her video.

Sorry, just couldn't resist. But you can stay!

[browseceline]

I honestly couldn't care if she retire now for the next 5 years or so, and completely went silent.

 

It's not much different than what she is doing for a while now.

 

And it's much easier to understand and live with knowing she just retires for a couple of years.

 

Rather than having the frustration of the lack of creativity, artistry and all the aspects of her career these days.

I can live without those fashion pictures, I can definitely live without those lame #ss lyric posts.

 

But 'knowing' her career is 'active' and she is just nowhere to be found, while these days everything is so accessible.

 

An mariah video singing for her fans to thank them is 100x times more exciting than another lyrical post of our dearest Céline.

Yes indeed and then coming up with a new tour, promising to dive deep in her discography and yet presenting the same old stuff again. Just like you said - if she really cares she can show herself on camera more and sing whatever she likes to sing

 

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[Tyler1991]

I can't believe people are talking about a new album. My god...after the disaster that was courage i could honestly care less to ever receive another new english album. What's the point??

 

Good songs aren't enough for me to care anymore. Sorry, but I need celine and team to care more than the fans and to invest in their work, stand by it, and promote it. Perform it. If you don't want to sing the songs in concert, at least provide a one off studio performance so fans have something else to delve into relating to courage.

 

Never thought I'd be that fan that only cared for the new french albums but that's the point I'm at. Yep..At least eus and sans attendre were promoted and performed. 10/16 songs off SA (two lipped), and 7 out of 14 from eus (1 lipped) are respectable numbers. 4/20 (really 2 on average) when covers are 7/20 is a joke. And honestly, the covers would be less bothersome if you knew it wasn't at the sacrifice of the new songs.

 

Oh and lastly...it's absolutely pathetic that eus had more songs performed on a tour before the albums release than courage did on a tour supporting its release.

 

Sadly I do believe that Celine's english career has largely gotten so commercially generic that an english album would just be another half assed project. Is there any reason to honestly suspect otherwise?

 

[Alex_Incognito]

Tyler, welcome to the page in my fandom I have been on for far too long.

[nuts2you]

well back on topic here , If and when she does return,, I wonder if she will do FOMO once again ,,Tyler I was just watching your/ our show from sept (first show) and I do miss FOMO in the setlist

[jpatdeleon09]

If she will do FOMO again please let it be at least like the arrangement of Las Vegas (even though i hate the chorus of the live version). The courage tour arrangement for this song is so... sad. Lower key. You don’t do that to a modern uptempo songs.

[sarit_celine]

Manolo! for a second I thought a miracle happened and they released a videoclip

they kept in secret for THW, darn it looks so professional, her team lacks people like

you that's for sure, among other stuff memebers they lack

 

As for releasing new materials

The reason they don't release Courage 2

is because there isn't the big money, they just don't care from hardcore fans

it's time to understand that already no? Years ago, It's not Celine's top priorities.

That's why she didn't care Courage era ended before it even began.

 

Don't you even dare to think they will do some Introspection during these sad times

and all of a sudden will come with surprises when it comes to her greatest hit tour

so people will get true value for their hard earned money.

Unless she will have managment around her, please stop waiting

for exiciting things to happen.

 

I don't think that this 2 feet distance will go away anytime soon, so it's interesting

how and when new gigs will be allowed to take place.

Also it seems that coronavirus will come back in the near future, at least, that's what they say on the news.

 

From time to time I do find myself recalling this Celine that I used once to hear her music

and live amazing shows non stop, I wish to be able to keep, at least, to enjoy Courage songs.

[jpatdeleon09]

Is the vaccine that they’re working on have any updates yet? I feel bad for the healthcare workers. Look at them they’re so tired that’s why stay at home if you must. And why are they lifting up the lockdown? The cases are still high.

 

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Edited May 5, 2020 at 02:14 AM by jpatdeleon09

[PuraVida]

To be kind to Céline, this was her first album after Rene and she didn’t have his managerial push and guidance.

 

So we might expect and forgive her that she had a badly promoted album and less-than-potential popularity with it (even if it did go to #1).

 

The problem is she churns our albums every 5-6 years! So we can’t wait and excuse her mistake.

 

Mariah seems more connected to her fans. Even Annie Lennox gets super personal on her Instagram and asks her fans genuinely They are truly doing (though she’s one in a million)......but Céline already says she singing around the house all day anyway, why can’t she record it!!!

[browseceline]

To be kind to Céline, this was her first album after Rene and she didn’t have his managerial push and guidance.

 

So we might expect and forgive her that she had a badly promoted album and less-than-potential popularity with it (even if it did go to #1).

 

The problem is she churns our albums every 5-6 years! So we can’t wait and excuse her mistake.

 

Mariah seems more connected to her fans. Even Annie Lennox gets super personal on her Instagram and asks her fans genuinely They are truly doing (though she’s one in a million)......but Céline already says she singing around the house all day anyway, why can’t she record it!!!

I agree ... Tours are only done for the money and to please casual fans, esspecially this tour. Hope this time when she is at home makes her rethink what she really would like to do. What really makes her happy.

 

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[mirage]

I'm joining you guys!!

 

Tyler, welcome to the page in my fandom I have been on for far too long.

[couldawouldashoulda]

Is the vaccine that they’re working on have any updates yet? I feel bad for the healthcare workers. Look at them they’re so tired that’s why stay at home if you must. And why are they lifting up the lockdown? The cases are still high.

 

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I continue to read about this. My very short rundown: It typically takes 10-15 years to develop a vaccine. The quickest was for the measles - it only took 4 years. HIV has taken 40 and they expect to finally have one in another 10-20 years. Dengue fever (and a few other viruses) NEVER had a vaccine. It’s very possible that they don’t come up with a vaccine for Covid-19 ever or at least not for 10-15 years. Yes, we may have to live with it that long. No one knows. It’s only been 4 months.

 

Many countries around the world are trying to fast-track a vaccine. However, they are doing it by skipping phases of the trial and if they really do push one out by September, it will not have had the proper and safe testing required to be given to lots of people.

[jpatdeleon09]

 

 

I continue to read about this. My very short rundown: It typically takes 10-15 years to develop a vaccine. The quickest was for the measles - it only took 4 years. HIV has taken 40 and they expect to finally have one in another 10-20 years. Dengue fever (and a few other viruses) NEVER had a vaccine. It’s very possible that they don’t come up with a vaccine for Covid-19 ever or at least not for 10-15 years. Yes, we may have to live with it that long. No one knows. It’s only been 4 months.

 

Many countries around the world are trying to fast-track a vaccine. However, they are doing it by skipping phases of the trial and if they really do push one out by September, it will not have had the proper and safe testing required to be given to lots of people.

 

Oh god! 2020 is not a great year. Do you believe that this virus is genetically engineered in a lab?

Edited May 5, 2020 at 01:30 PM by jpatdeleon09