Random news, thoughts and common questions about Celine (closed)

[isabel leite]

Hi I would like to ask a favor. I recently had a big problem with my computer and I lost all my downloads. Does anyone have

Céline and René on the 1000e of Michel Jasmin ? I love this interview and I cant find it anywhere to download.. Thank you so much in advance!

 

[NicoNV]

With all these sexual harassment cases coming to light now I wonder if Celine has ever been put in that position? Just because she was married and everyone knew she was doesn't mean that it wasn't attempted.

I actually doubt it - I'm sure it's very common in show business, but Celine is in an unusual position- very protected since the time she was very young. First with her mother with her everywhere, and then Rene with her everywhere. - and when he wasn't, forming a cocoon of a team around her. Plus sexual harassment tends to be a power thing - done by those in power to those who are vulnerable. By the time she didn't have either or her mother or Rene with her all the time, she was pretty powerful herself.

 

Celine's said several times that Rene always protected her - I wonder if this is one thing he protected her against.

 

 

In her biography and a few interviews she discusses several incidents of what would and should be considered sexual harassment.

 

The Phil Spector session was horrible. He had a gun (not uncommon for him in sessions), and had threatened her. For reasons that make no sense, he had Ike Turner present. Ike Turner was a rapist. And I believe it was implied that if Celine didn't hit certain notes, then Spector could make that happen---considering Ike Turner's presence that had to be a horrible experience. Celine had said she felt like the men were looked through her clothes the way they stared. Spector had said Rene was not needed at those sessions and Spector was notoriously temperamental, so Rene wasn't there. But, the only way she would go back is if Spector left some of his guards (and no Ike Turner). Spector agreed. She went back. She ended up locked in the recording booth (but, this wasn't uncommon for Spector to do either. He had locked some other musician in a house and fired through the floor. Spector was beyond off balanced). Dave Patel was there. Spector screamed at him.

Patel then went to the booth, unlocked the door, got Celine out, they went outside and went someone to call Rene. Rene showed up a while later (I am not saying he took his time, but it's real life, it's not in an instant). And he went in, fought with Spector, and that's when Spector left with the recording session tapes. It's also why Celine always says those sessions were not in the best environment and she did not like how the songs sounded, and herself has said she would not want them released. Who can blame her! That had to be horrible.

 

But, this story has been told so many different ways. I fully believe her own account. I just mean other people have written accounts of it too. But, Celine in her own biography discussed how uncomfortable Spector made her feel. In any scenario, that situation is harassment. Some of the details are from her biography, various interviews, and then i think one of Rene's friends had talked about it too. All the sources escape me at the moment, I remember the story because I remember hearing a lot of Spector stories and I couldn't believe she had experienced him as well.

 

Also in her biography, she talked about a guy from Sony US that she had to meet with--Rene had her meet him alone because Rene had to be somewhere else. The guy went through her closet, and her underwear drawer (because that's relevant to singing, how??) and commented that she dressed too old for her age.

 

Then, at a meeting in the US, some label executive told her to get on the radio she would need breast implants. Because this executive clearly had no idea how radio works.

 

So, yeah. She's like all of us. Unfortunately, she's experienced harassment too.

Edited November 20, 2017 at 02:54 AM by NicoNV

[CelineDionFreak]

 

 

 

 

In her biography and a few interviews she discusses several incidents of what would and should be considered sexual harassment.

 

The Phil Spector session was horrible. He had a gun (not uncommon for him in sessions), and had threatened her. For reasons that make no sense, he had Ike Turner present. Ike Turner was a rapist. And I believe it was implied that if Celine didn't hit certain notes, then Spector could make that happen---considering Ike Turner's presence that had to be a horrible experience. Celine had said she felt like the men were looked through her clothes the way they stared. Spector had said Rene was not needed at those sessions and Spector was notoriously temperamental, so Rene wasn't there. But, the only way she would go back is if Spector left some of his guards (and no Ike Turner). Spector agreed. She went back. She ended up locked in the recording booth (but, this wasn't uncommon for Spector to do either. He had locked some other musician in a house and fired through the floor. Spector was beyond off balanced). Dave Patel was there. Spector screamed at him.

Patel then went to the booth, unlocked the door, got Celine out, they went outside and went someone to call Rene. Rene showed up a while later (I am not saying he took his time, but it's real life, it's not in an instant). And he went in, fought with Spector, and that's when Spector left with the recording session tapes. It's also why Celine always says those sessions were not in the best environment and she did not like how the songs sounded, and herself has said she would not want them released. Who can blame her! That had to be horrible.

 

But, this story has been told so many different ways. I fully believe her own account. I just mean other people have written accounts of it too. But, Celine in her own biography discussed how uncomfortable Spector made her feel. In any scenario, that situation is harassment. Some of the details are from her biography, various interviews, and then i think one of Rene's friends had talked about it too. All the sources escape me at the moment, I remember the story because I remember hearing a lot of Spector stories and I couldn't believe she had experienced him as well.

 

Also in her biography, she talked about a guy from Sony US that she had to meet with--Rene had her meet him alone because Rene had to be somewhere else. The guy went through her closet, and her underwear drawer (because that's relevant to singing, how??) and commented that she dressed too old for her age.

 

Then, at a meeting in the US, some label executive told her to get on the radio she would need breast implants. Because this executive clearly had no idea how radio works.

 

So, yeah. She's like all of us. Unfortunately, she's experienced harassment too.

Omg never heard the full Spector story. That’s horrible. I can’t belive they brought Ike Turner. I fully understand now why Céline wouldn’t want those released... that’s just so astounding.

[jpatdeleon09]

That's so scary!!! Phil is like a living Chucky

[Javito]

I guess we had to take that with a grain of salt. We would only know the truth if Céline ever spoke about this in detail, or was asked. But she's so politically correct and white with her speaking and interviews that I think we'll never know

 

Most of her intervierws now had turned into some kind of repeated flashback about each journalist admiring/professing their love to Céline, that we barely get anything interesting about her career, you know what I mean. And I'm sure Céline has a lot to tell, but only if she's asked. If nobody wants to ask interesting things and go into detail, she's not telling, and she will go on with her repeated speech about her family forever.

 

From a couple of years now her interviews are only about her family, the children, ocassionally fashion and how MHWGO demo became the actual song on the soundtrack. That's it lol

Edited November 20, 2017 at 12:32 PM by Javito

[ryba]

I guess we had to take that with a grain of salt. We would only know the truth if Céline ever spoke about this in detail, or was asked. But she's so politically correct and white with her speaking and interviews that I think we'll never know

 

Most of her intervierws now had turned into some kind of repeated flashback about each journalist admiring/professing their love to Céline, that we barely get anything interesting about her career, you know what I mean. And I'm sure Céline has a lot to tell, but only if she's asked. If nobody wants to ask interesting things and go into detail, she's not telling, and she will go on with her repeated speech about her family forever.

 

From a couple of years now her interviews are only about her family, the children, ocassionally fashion and how MHWGO demo became the actual song on the soundtrack. That's it lol

true! But at least she no longer talks about picking her own tomatoes loool she used to say that all the time Edited November 20, 2017 at 01:19 PM by ryba

[chocolatechip15]

 

 

 

 

In her biography and a few interviews she discusses several incidents of what would and should be considered sexual harassment.

 

The Phil Spector session was horrible. He had a gun (not uncommon for him in sessions), and had threatened her. For reasons that make no sense, he had Ike Turner present. Ike Turner was a rapist. And I believe it was implied that if Celine didn't hit certain notes, then Spector could make that happen---considering Ike Turner's presence that had to be a horrible experience. Celine had said she felt like the men were looked through her clothes the way they stared. Spector had said Rene was not needed at those sessions and Spector was notoriously temperamental, so Rene wasn't there. But, the only way she would go back is if Spector left some of his guards (and no Ike Turner). Spector agreed. She went back. She ended up locked in the recording booth (but, this wasn't uncommon for Spector to do either. He had locked some other musician in a house and fired through the floor. Spector was beyond off balanced). Dave Patel was there. Spector screamed at him.

Patel then went to the booth, unlocked the door, got Celine out, they went outside and went someone to call Rene. Rene showed up a while later (I am not saying he took his time, but it's real life, it's not in an instant). And he went in, fought with Spector, and that's when Spector left with the recording session tapes. It's also why Celine always says those sessions were not in the best environment and she did not like how the songs sounded, and herself has said she would not want them released. Who can blame her! That had to be horrible.

 

But, this story has been told so many different ways. I fully believe her own account. I just mean other people have written accounts of it too. But, Celine in her own biography discussed how uncomfortable Spector made her feel. In any scenario, that situation is harassment. Some of the details are from her biography, various interviews, and then i think one of Rene's friends had talked about it too. All the sources escape me at the moment, I remember the story because I remember hearing a lot of Spector stories and I couldn't believe she had experienced him as well.

 

Also in her biography, she talked about a guy from Sony US that she had to meet with--Rene had her meet him alone because Rene had to be somewhere else. The guy went through her closet, and her underwear drawer (because that's relevant to singing, how??) and commented that she dressed too old for her age.

 

Then, at a meeting in the US, some label executive told her to get on the radio she would need breast implants. Because this executive clearly had no idea how radio works.

 

So, yeah. She's like all of us. Unfortunately, she's experienced harassment too.

 

I'd forgotten about Phil Spector, and you're right that it seems like sexual harassment, but i never heard anything as severe as what you described. What I remember her biography saying (I will try to find the exact quote later) was not that he threatened her, but that he praised her effusively while being nasty to everyone else, ordered large sprays of flowers that made her uncomfortable, etc. I also remember the line about Phil saying Rene was not needed, but Rene was definitely there. When Phil yelled at Dave Platel, Celine said that she knew exactly what Rene was going to do, and she agreed completely. Rene told Phil that he doesn't let anyone treat his friends like that, and Celine slipped away outside while Rene was telling off Phil, and Phil didn't even notice that she had gone.

 

There was also a biography of Phil published a few years ago, and someone else who was at those sessions talked about it. They had a slightly different point of view, but the same basic story - they called Dave "the guy from the record company" and tried to make it seem like Dave was being annoying, but then said that Celine's husband got mad when Phil yelled at the record company guy, and Rene called off the sessions. So same basic story, and I definitely think Rene was there.

 

Regarding the guy who went through her closet - wasn't that Paul Burger, who became a good friend? I thought when she told that story, she seemed to agree with what he was saying and wanted to change her look, not that she felt harassed.

 

But that does remind me of the moment in 3 Boys and a New Show when the guy who's doing a fitting starts touching her chest a bit too much, and Celine is a little like WTF? "Who does that?"

 

I never heard the breast implant story either, but it sadly sounds like something that would happen. Where did you hear about that?

 

[chocolatechip15]

 

The Phil Spector session was horrible. He had a gun (not uncommon for him in sessions), and had threatened her. For reasons that make no sense, he had Ike Turner present. Ike Turner was a rapist. And I believe it was implied that if Celine didn't hit certain notes, then Spector could make that happen---considering Ike Turner's presence that had to be a horrible experience. Celine had said she felt like the men were looked through her clothes the way they stared. Spector had said Rene was not needed at those sessions and Spector was notoriously temperamental, so Rene wasn't there. But, the only way she would go back is if Spector left some of his guards (and no Ike Turner). Spector agreed. She went back. She ended up locked in the recording booth (but, this wasn't uncommon for Spector to do either. He had locked some other musician in a house and fired through the floor. Spector was beyond off balanced). Dave Patel was there. Spector screamed at him.

Patel then went to the booth, unlocked the door, got Celine out, they went outside and went someone to call Rene. Rene showed up a while later (I am not saying he took his time, but it's real life, it's not in an instant).

 

I don't think this version of the story is entirely accurate. Following up from my previous post, this is the quote from Celine's official biography, including a direct quote from Celine herself. I'm also pasting an account from another biography of Phil. While it sounds unpleasant and probably like sexual harassment, she was not locked in a booth or threatened with rape. Rene was there the whole time, and she left freely when she wanted to.

 

From her biography:

"From behind the control panel, Spector chewed out the musicians. . .During the sessions he kept ordering sprays of red roses for Celine. He gave her looks that were so long and lingering she could feel them on her skin. When she looked over toward him, he stared at her through squinting eyes, as if he wanted to look right inside her. Rene wasn't needed, he said. He could take the day off. Meanwhile, Spector began to belittle the other producers who worked with Celine . . ."

 

"They recorded four magnificent songs. But after those sessions the tensions became unbearable. One evening, Spector kept Celine waiting. It was three, then four, then five o'clock in the morning. Celine had to tape a video in a few hours. She had to look her best and be in top shape. Dave Platel dared to ask Spector when the tracks would be ready for Celine to sing to. Spector told him to take a walk in his back alley with his bodyguard. Through clenched teeth, he told Platel he felt like pulverizing him."

 

Then the book quotes Celine as saying, "I took one look at Rene and I knew exactly what he would think and what he would do. I was in complete agreement. I got up and walked out. I walked back and forth in the parking lot with Dave. The night was cool. I knew very well that I'd never set foot in that studio again, that I'd never work with Phil Spector as long as I lived. Rene came out to meet us in the car a few minutes later. He was calm. He's always calm when he's angry. He told me what happened. Spector hadn't even noticed I'd left. Rene went up to him. It was finished, he said. I was gone, and I'd never be back. Spector said he was sorry. Rene never batted an eyelash.He'd never let anyone treat his friends that way, he said. Even the biggest artists don't have that right."

 

And this is from the book: Tearing Down The Wall of Sound: The Rise And Fall of Phil Spector

 

"'Phil had a major crush on Celine,' one participant in the sessions remembers. 'He was working her very hard, and they were wrapping her in cotton wool - 'Her throat can't take it. She's got to stop now.' Phil doesn't want to hear that at three in the morning. Celine herself was saying 'No, no, I'm fine.' Phil had gotten her voice in such a great place she wanted to keep doing it. At length, the mounting tensions turned into a blazing row between Spector and the Sony representative. 'The guy from Sony was a typical schmuck executive idiot,' remembers David Kessel. 'He was pulling all this, 'I'm with the label' s***, and Phil told him to go to he**. And then Celine's husband got a little irritated with Phil telling the record executive to shove it up his a**. . . Rene Angelil announced that Spector was off the project, and he and Celine left town."

 

[ryba]

OMG, horrible experience...

 

But great story! I wish Celine would talk about this in an interview!

[Peppercorn1991]

Really wish there was more to talk about around here.... nothing exciting to talk about at all... no upcoming events... hope she does something around Christmas

 

Kev x

[jpatdeleon09]

I saw this on instagram and it's the first time i saw the video wearing her my heart will go on outfit back in A New Day singing S'il Suffisait D'aimer. Do you guys have the full version of this performance?

 

https://instagram.com/p/Bbw8etYjYiS/

[CelineDionFreak]

I saw this on instagram and it's the first time i saw the video wearing her my heart will go on outfit back in A New Day singing S'il Suffisait D'aimer. Do you guys have the full version of this performance?

 

https://instagram.com/p/Bbw8etYjYiS/

What a rare gem! I’ve never seen this.

[SuperLove4Celine]

Happy Thanksgiving!

 

[Lexi]

I wonder how she is doing today. Hopefully she’ll feel better soon.

[DionFanAlways]

I wonder how she is doing today. Hopefully she’ll feel better soon.

I don't know but her team wants you to spend some cash at the boutique de Celine and get 30% off of merchandise!

[Jeanette]

Does anyone know how long it takes for deliveries to the UK from the boutique? I imagine they use the cheapest possible delivery service lol

[Lexi]

Does anyone know how long it takes for deliveries to the UK from the boutique? I imagine they use the cheapest possible delivery service lol

 

To the Netherlands, it took less than a week! Amazing. So, I guess it’s within 10 days max to the UK.

[Jeanette]

 

 

To the Netherlands, it took less than a week! Amazing. So, I guess it’s within 10 days max to the UK.

 

Fingers crossed 🤞🏻 Thank you 😊

[Taking Chances]

https://youtu.be/jf-Jb-VAoMs

 

I've found this one after years of not hearing it!!

Love her vocals!!

 

Could someone tell me what's the story behind this song?

 

This is my new song. I absolutely love it now. Do you know anything regarding Celine and how this song came together?

 

I've been playing this song non stop for the past few days.

[Javito]

This is my new song. I absolutely love it now. Do you know anything regarding Celine and how this song came together?

 

I've been playing this song non stop for the past few days.

 

Not much has been told about this collaboration. What I always heard the band tell about this song is that, when they were recording the album and Humberto Gatica was in Las Vegas (he was the producer of the album), he thought about adding some female vocals to this song and thought Céline would be suitable for this, so being both working in Vegas at that time, he presented the song to Céline and she agreed and recorded the vocal adlibs in the studio. That was probably done during the 1f&4t sessions, since the album came out in November 2003. As we know, she didn't say a single word in Spanish unfortunately.

 

They didn't record the song together either. The vocals in Spanish were already done, and Céline recorded her vocals after the band's work. They didn't meet until some time later, when Café Quijano was invited to attend Céline's show and they thanked her for her participation in the album.

Edited November 28, 2017 at 09:24 AM by Javito

[angelil78]

I'm going on my first pilgrimage to Montréal in March on my way to Célines birthday party

 

I'll stay in Montréal for 2 full days and there are 3 places I want to visit, it's Charlemagne, Schwartz and Nickels, Renés grave and my mind is blank for more places at the moment.

 

How easy is it to travel around in Montréal? specially to Charlemagne, does anyone here know?

[Simon]

Le Ballet & Yoga...

[québecflower]

The Jets are going with victories and celebrate with Celine. https://www.bardown.com/josh-morrissey-reveals-how-this-celine-dion-hit-became-one-of-the-jets-victory-songs-after-games-1.929213

[brandon_vincent]

Bought the import version of The Essential and I find the track list for the European version to be way better!!! It is more for Céline fans lol. Do you guys like the import version better than the US edition!!

[Javito]

The US version has less tracks than the EU version, so yes, in case of more tracks, I always prefer the latter

 

(And don't forget the French edition, which includes One Heart and Ten Days only there )

[Davey84]

The US version has less tracks than the EU version, so yes, in case of more tracks, I always prefer the latter

 

(And don't forget the French edition, which includes One Heart and Ten Days only there )

 

Yes... but the French one only is released as a 1 disc, so in the end, it has less songs!

 

[Davey84]

Celine is part of another David Foster Hitman special... unfortunately it seems to be BYLM from AND again

 

It's a big shame cos they did loads of great stuff in the 90s

 

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/gperf/

 

Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G950F met Tapatalk

Edited November 30, 2017 at 07:10 PM by Davey84

[scielle]

This is the same old special; it's been re-airing recently on various PBS stations.

[Tyler1991]

I NEED actual fans who know the same truth I do to post and confirm the following information.

 

In order of most to least performed - all the way>the first time ever I saw your face>that's the way it is

 

Arguing with someone who claims i am ignorant and I know I'm not on this subject..... "Apparently" ttwii has been performed hundred times more than the other two songs including the entire last leg of ltal tour and the asisn leg of tc tour (VERY FALSE)...but based on everything I've ever known to be true, it seems as though all the way should have around 300 performances, ttwii around 190 and tfteisyf around 275.

 

Ltal tour had atw and tfteisyf in its acoustic medley. Atw was performed in the last 225 shows of and and tfteisyf was performed in the first 125. Roughly 60 performances of tfteisyf in Vegas also.

Edited November 30, 2017 at 07:35 PM by Tyler1991

[Celineiac2003]

I NEED actual fans who know the same truth I do to post and confirm the following information.

 

In order of most to least performed - all the way>the first time ever I saw your face>that's the way it is

 

Arguing with someone who claims i am ignorant and I know I'm not on this subject..... "Apparently" ttwii has been performed hundred times more than the other two songs including the entire last leg of ltal tour and the asisn leg of tc tour (VERY FALSE)...but based on everything I've ever known to be true, it seems as though all the way should have around 300 performances, ttwii around 190 and tfteisyf around 275.

 

Ltal tour had atw and tfteisyf in its acoustic medley. Atw was performed in the last 225 shows of and and tfteisyf was performed in the first 125. Roughly 60 performances of tfteisyf in Vegas also.

 

I feel that TTWII has been performed less than you stated. She did perform TTWII in the last 1-3 shows of LTAL and The Millennium Concert. I so recall her performing TTWII around 20 times from 1999 to 2003-ish on TV and I also remember her doing it once in 2006 on Italian TV. So that equates to about 30 performances, then shes done it around 130 times since 2015 (???) and the 15 performances on her latest tour. Bringing it too 175 performances.

 

 

However,

TFTEISYF was performed in LTAL around 38 times in the English Acoustic Medley. Correct me if Im wrong but I think she performed it around 150 times during AND, Im pretty sure she cut it in Mid 2004. But apparently when she was suffering Hernias she cut it for about 10-15 shows. Then she performed it on the stage for the rest of its duration. Then in Vegas 2015-2016 (she cut it early 2016 right ??) she performed it around 58/60 times.

 

All the way was performed 38 times in LTAL, then in Vegas since around May (??) 2006 when she swapped it out instead of an Italian song (I honestly cant remember the name but I know she sang it before Ammore Assunscianato) and that adds up to around 250 performances. Not Including the performances in Vegas 2015 (If you included those).

 

I would say All The Way > The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face > Thats The Way It Is.

 

Ps. I found the comment section you are on about when i was watching Celine compilations and The guy isnt saying that you are completely wrong, but he did call you ignorant to facts. However you did act slightly rude in your last comment and are being quite mean here too. Calm it down.

Edited November 30, 2017 at 07:56 PM by Celineiac2003