Celine (Las Vegas show) [ends: June 8th, 2019] - Official topic

[Shaun]

Yes during the TCWT stage Celine didn’t quite have the “legend” status that she has now. Add to that the “Taking Chances” album wasn’t very well received really. In addition the world lost a lot of its “legends” between 2007-2017 meaning Céline was more in demand. I also think a lot of “casual” fans came back to Celine following the sad passing of René.

[CSCfan]

I don't care if she does in-the-round or not... I care more for a non-standard stage.

 

Why the hell doesn't she use catwalks (when she has an end stage)? She's s a solo singer (and not a band), she doesn't really have an intensive choreography...

Especially when she does a stadium show and you're not sitting/standing close to the stage, you barely see her. A catwalk (whether it's multiple, a big connecting one or something else), would be perfect. We all saw how people loved her singing in the audience in the 2017 tour..

[scielle]

Great article about the reinvention of Vegas, with plenty of credit and quotes attributed to Celine - https://www.pressreader.com/usa/variety/20190205/282501479875894

 

(I think it's from the print version of the latest Variety, hence the format.)

[ryba]

I would for once take out IACBTN and BYLM because they just lost their magic. I would also take out LCMM. I would put TPOL in a very rock arrangement (like in the 90s) as the second last encore and finish with MHWGO Edited February 6, 2019 at 03:55 PM by ryba

[jpatdeleon09]

It's better to sing IACBTN and BYLM live than lipping it since she can sing it live. These songs are better in live than lipsync.. It will really lost it's magic when lipped. It needs to be raw, and the arrangements should be better. It should be like this again. I want a full version.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S2MUNx8pb0

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5XrZNhq7IQ

 

 

Edited February 6, 2019 at 04:59 PM by jpatdeleon09

[smw]

I love love love this article:

 

https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8496190/concerts-west-las-vegas-aeg-colosseum

 

It brings closure to this whole Vegas journey for me and reminds me of how Celine and Rene changed HISTORY. She is going out on top, which is amazing considering she's been doing shows in Vegas since 2003!!!! It brings me peace to know that there may never be anybody who does what Celine did in Vegas again. And, even still, she will always be THE ONE who changed the game.

 

I'm also THRILLED that it looks like Celine will be doing a world tour next. Hallelujah! That will be wonderful for her soul.

[ordinary fan]

I think she could do a world tour very easily. Make short legs with less shows. Do big stadiums in cities were she would stay longer normally (like Paris Stade de france instead of multiple times bery arena).

They could do something like that:

5 or so shows in south africa

rest one and a half week

5 shows in australia

rest one month

20 shows in asia

rest two months

27 shows in europe

rest two and a half months

27 shows in north america

rest three months (or a bit less than that)

and 5 or so shows in south america

do big stadiums, so less shows in one place. That makes it possible to visit more places while doing less shows.

What do you think? Is this possible whith celine´s condition nowadays? Enough rest and so on...?

Maybe in the legs with more shows (asia, europe and north america) also small times to rest (a few days between shows)

Edited February 6, 2019 at 06:20 PM by ordinary fan

[scielle]

Great article about the reinvention of Vegas, with plenty of credit and quotes attributed to Celine - https://www.pressreader.com/usa/variety/20190205/282501479875894

 

(I think it's from the print version of the latest Variety, hence the format.)

 

Now fully available online - https://variety.com/2019/music/news/vegas-residencies-lady-gaga-1203129425/

 

"In many ways, the entire city now feels like The Town That Celine Built. Residencies are king. [...]

It is now considered a sign you’ve made it, not that you’ve lost."

[maki_Dion-er]

With all these new headliners being announced just as Celine leaves it makes me feel like these venues are compensating for the fact that the biggest headliner is leaving.

 

I remember seeing a video where it's hosts mentioned some worry of what would happen to Vegas' economy when she left because she is supposedly attributed for bringing in something like 1% yearly, just her. They credit her with "saving" Las Vegas economy.

[scielle]

With all these new headliners being announced just as Celine leaves it makes me feel like these venues are compensating for the fact that the biggest headliner is leaving.

 

I remember seeing a video where it's hosts mentioned some worry of what would happen to Vegas' economy when she left because she is supposedly attributed for bringing in something like 1% yearly, just her. They credit her with "saving" Las Vegas economy.

 

Yes, there was plenty of press about that around the time she came back for her second residency. They called her the "one woman economic stimulus package", especially since she came back at the tail end of the financial crisis that spelled substantial slow-down for Vegas at the time.

[Ukrfan]

 

 

You have to keep in mind that Madonna's shows are far more suited for stadiums then Célines. Céline gives a concert (aka focus on the singing), Madonna gives a show (aka focus on the entertainment).

 

She didn't give 10 concerts in Paris, she gave 6... and almost all of her US dates sold out, so that was a smart move. I do think they made mistakes with the tour, her concerts especially in South Africa, Dubai and Seoul were visited poorly... maybe the prices were to high for the avarage citizen. They also made a big mistake IMO by organizing 6 concerts in Germany alone. 2 in Berlin and 1 in Muchen would have been enough. She would then have had the time to got to (yes Jav) Spain and Portugal.

 

In the end her attendance figures weren't bad: 2,193,483 / 2,325,831 (94%). You got to keep in mind that Céline really was out of the picture back then, due to Vegas. And I think Kev is right... they were (over) compensating for not touring in 9 years. When she was in Europe in 2017, she was waaaay more in demand, which resulted in 100% attendance: 457,923 / 457,923 (100%)

I wouldn't mind Celine's shows to be more artistic and entertaining, like A New Day was. Or at least TCWT.

 

Ok, 6 concerts in Paris. I don't know why I though it was ten. Did I mess up with Montreal perhaps? Still, that's quite a lot. And you're right, don't forget terrible attendance in Australia... bad promotion.

Edited February 6, 2019 at 09:28 PM by Ukrfan

[Ukrfan]

I don't care if she does in-the-round or not... I care more for a non-standard stage.

 

Why the hell doesn't she use catwalks (when she has an end stage)? She's s a solo singer (and not a band), she doesn't really have an intensive choreography...

Especially when she does a stadium show and you're not sitting/standing close to the stage, you barely see her. A catwalk (whether it's multiple, a big connecting one or something else), would be perfect. We all saw how people loved her singing in the audience in the 2017 tour..

YES! She had two for the round stage in TCWT, and they were amazing. No idea why they are not using them anymore.

[nuts2you]

well, we only have until end of this month that she will be back ,I SO CANT WAIT

[ryba]

It's better to sing IACBTN and BYLM live than lipping it since she can sing it live. These songs are better in live than lipsync.. It will really lost it's magic when lipped. It needs to be raw, and the arrangements should be better. It should be like this again. I want a full version.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S2MUNx8pb0

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5XrZNhq7IQ

 

 

I agree! Especially in case of IACBTMN they should make a big, serious spectacle out of the song, not put it in a stupid short medley or let her lip it. Otherwise the entire song totally looses all its magic. Moreover, the arrangements must be much more dramatic and rough, like in the 90s! Edited February 6, 2019 at 10:07 PM by ryba

[Dion2000]

I agree! Especially in case of IACBTMN they should make a big, serious spectacle out of the song, not put it in a stupid short medley or let her lip it. Otherwise the entire song totally looses all its magic. Moreover, the arrangements must be much more dramatic and rough, like in the 90s!

 

 

BYLM has no excuse, however I think there’s a reason for IACBTMN being lipped. She re recorded a whole new track in 2011, even though she was doing like a third, if not a quarter of the shows she was doing beforehand. I personally think this either means :

 

Celines a perfectionist and doesnt want to mess up any of the big songs people love, or Celine feels that its too difficult for her to sing now.

 

In 2011 she was in superb vocal condition and she could’ve pulled of IACBTMN and WDMHBN with ease, and yet she chose to lip them.... strange

[nuts2you]

now that this will be ending soon, I wonder if they will bring back some of her dancers / musicians from her past shows, we all know that the press will be there in grooves ,press everywhere that last day, for sure

[biscuit2]

 

I wouldn't mind Celine's shows to be more artistic and entertaining, like A New Day was. Or at least TCWT.

 

Ok, 6 concerts in Paris. I don't know why I though it was ten. Did I mess up with Montreal perhaps? Still, that's quite a lot. And you're right, don't forget terrible attendance in Australia... bad promotion.

 

For 9 years of absence 6 concerts in Paris was not a lot do not forget Céline had not almost sing live in french in this decade

Edited February 6, 2019 at 10:59 PM by biscuit2

[smw]

I assume she will rehearse the London show in Vegas before the residency ends.

 

I also wonder if the very final Vegas concerts will be similar to the London show like she did in Vegas prior to touring Asia / Australia?

[scielle]

What I'll miss about Vegas: The venue.

You can't beat seeing Celine (or any artist, for that matter) at a theater the size and quality of The Colosseum.

I hate seeing concerts at sports arenas - the atmosphere is comparatively blah, acoustics sub-par to say the least, sight-lines nowhere near what you'd get at a venue built for performance.

I so wish she could do shows at places like Royal Albert Hall or Carnegie, or Lincoln Center. But that's unlikely - the economics aren't really there.

 

What I won't miss: The short shows & predictable, "safe" set lists. These shows are clearly designed for a lot of non-fans, or those "just passing through town", who expect songs they know, and still want to have time for dinner, drinks, gambling, shopping, etc. Limited attention span.

[Dion2000]

 

 

For 9 years of absence 6 concerts in Paris was not a lot do not forget Céline had not almost sing live in french in this decade

 

 

She did multiple shows in Paris in 2013 then returned in 2016 and then 2017 doing like 15-17 shows total IN PARIS ALONE. Hardly deprived

[Dion2000]

I assume she will rehearse the London show in Vegas before the residency ends.

 

I also wonder if the very final Vegas concerts will be similar to the London show like she did in Vegas prior to touring Asia / Australia?

 

 

Doubt it. Giving that its a one off i feel she will Keep it as a surprise

[mirage]

I don't think it will be a one off.

I think that the London gig will be similar to the tour show she will do afterwards.

 

Same she did with USF when in Paris and Antwerp.

 

 

 

 

Doubt it. Giving that its a one off i feel she will Keep it as a surprise

[Peppercorn1991]

 

 

 

She did multiple shows in Paris in 2013 then returned in 2016 and then 2017 doing like 15-17 shows total IN PARIS ALONE. Hardly deprived

 

Just remember that she has two careers in both languages 15-17 shows in France is hardly the same as her English career.

 

Kev x

[DionFanAlways]

What I'll miss about Vegas: The venue.

You can't beat seeing Celine (or any artist, for that matter) at a theater the size and quality of The Colosseum.

I hate seeing concerts at sports arenas - the atmosphere is comparatively blah, acoustics sub-par to say the least, sight-lines nowhere near what you'd get at a venue built for performance.

I so wish she could do shows at places like Royal Albert Hall or Carnegie, or Lincoln Center. But that's unlikely - the economics aren't really there.

 

I think she had said somewhere in an interview she prefers smaller more intimate venues also. Correct me if I'm wrong. That's why I hope this upcoming tour (rumored) will be at some smaller venues.

[jpatdeleon09]

If she wants smaller venues. She can just do a gig again in ballroom venues like back in 2013. Focus on vocals only.

 

But i prefer bigger venues. It also adds effects to her voice. Resonance

Edited February 7, 2019 at 11:16 AM by jpatdeleon09

[CSCfan]

I think she had said somewhere in an interview she prefers smaller more intimate venues also. Correct me if I'm wrong. That's why I hope this upcoming tour (rumored) will be at some smaller venues.

 

Don't we know by now we shouldn't really pin her on stuff she wants and says.... ?

We always (except in 2016) get something generic and not really "special".

[Alex_Incognito]

Don't we know by now we shouldn't really pin her on stuff she wants and says.... ?

We always (except in 2016) get something generic and not really "special".

2016 was, IMHO, her best shows ever. For the whole show I sat with my mouth open amazed. It was like a dream come true.

[scielle]

 

2016 was, IMHO, her best shows ever. For the whole show I sat with my mouth open amazed. It was like a dream come true.

 

Agreed. Artistically speaking, it's the best thing she's ever done, IMHO.

 

I initially got tix to 1 show...but loved it so much I went back another 5 times!

[Jeanette]

 

2016 was, IMHO, her best shows ever. For the whole show I sat with my mouth open amazed. It was like a dream come true.

 

She needs to put on a show though for the English speaking market, just standing still in the same outfit all night doesn’t appeal to the wider English speaking masses.

 

I think this type of almost acoustic vibe worked for French speaking fans due to the fact her French language songs are much more folk(y) if you like. I think this type of show on a grand scale of a world tour would be panned by fans and critics alike.

[biscuit2]

 

 

 

She did multiple shows in Paris in 2013 then returned in 2016 and then 2017 doing like 15-17 shows total IN PARIS ALONE. Hardly deprived

 

2000 2008 6 shows 714 english shows in vegas

Edited February 7, 2019 at 07:17 PM by biscuit2