"Courage" album - Official Topic

[Celine Fan 77]

Have you heard the spanish version of Have You Ever Been In Love?

 

Of course not, I wish I had! It's not even clear that she recorded it. All I know is that famous picture of the sheet music with the lyrics, signed by Celine.

 

 

I guess this is the closest thing we have to that song:

 

Edited February 28, 2017 at 10:55 AM by Celine Fan 77

[Javito]

We don't even know for sure if it was recorded after all, but the lyrics sheet with all the phonetic words and notes and Céline's handwriting on it makes me believe so

 

The contrary wouldn't make much sense. You know, Céline is not that kind of artist that leaves her work unfinished I just think they didn't like how it sounded in the end, for whatever reason (like happened with the English version of LAEE), or for whatever reason they prefered to include again the English version on the OH album.

Edited February 28, 2017 at 10:55 AM by Javito

[jpatdeleon09]

That's what i also miss.. Céline singing in different languages like, japanese, spanish....

[Javito]

That's what i also miss.. Céline singing in different languages like, japanese, spanish....

 

I SO very much miss that too. A Spanish album today would break the stagnation that has been installed in her English career since years now. Even a "concept" Spanish album, like an album of famous tango songs covered by Céline, that would make the news everywhere if done properly and with due respect, I'm sure.

 

Like I said many times, she needs to break out that self-imposed routine in her career of always releasing the same combination English album/French album/English album/French album invariably. I think the general public is tired of that, and that's why the industry doesn't pay attention to her either. And if it's not an album in another language, at least take some risk and do an album in another new style (dance, jazz, electronic etc). Whatever except that same old formula that it became clear is no longuer working for her (at least with the English market). She needs to reinvent her English career so bad. It's been many many many years always doing the same thing, and there's only so much one can last always offering the same to the public.

 

All in all, like the saying says, "been there, done that"!!!. Time to move on and do something different. After all, she's been wishing to do these projects since decades ago -like the cinema thing, but it never arrives...

Edited February 28, 2017 at 11:06 AM by Javito

[agentwigs]

 

 

Have you heard the spanish version of Have You Ever Been In Love?

I didn't know there was one!

[jpatdeleon09]

I didn't know there was one!

 

me too! i just saw it today.. Many unreleased songs.. And i still want to hear those Phil Spector songs that céline recorded.

[Brandon]

We don't even know for sure if it was recorded after all, but the lyrics sheet with all the phonetic words and notes and Céline's handwriting on it makes me believe so

 

The contrary wouldn't make much sense. You know, Céline is not that kind of artist that leaves her work unfinished I just think they didn't like how it sounded in the end, for whatever reason (like happened with the English version of LAEE), or for whatever reason they prefered to include again the English version on the OH album.

Spanish in Spain is different from Latin America. For example, people from Spain have been teased by Mexicans and Latin Americans because they speak very fast and practically butcher the language. They also pronounce the "C" wrong. as "TH" also sometimes they pronounce the "D" as "TH" its very strange to hear this. At least that's what My Mexican friend said. Also It is said that Mexicans speak slower and pronounce the "C" like Americans do. And that Latin Americans speak the best spanish, especially Colombians.

[manu23]

Latin Americans speak the best Spanish? Yeah sure...

[angelil78]

For me it's enough to have her sing in French and English. I don't care much for her to sing in other languages.

 

I do listen to music in Spanish so I have nothing against Spanish

[isurrender]

I think we are going to enter a debate about Spanish pronunciations.

 

Just like it is the one and only language that have different ones.

 

 

[Brandon]

I SO very much miss that too. A Spanish album today would break the stagnation that has been installed in her English career since years now. Even a "concept" Spanish album, like an album of famous tango songs covered by Céline, that would make the news everywhere if done properly and with due respect, I'm sure.

 

Like I said many times, she needs to break out that self-imposed routine in her career of always releasing the same combination English album/French album/English album/French album invariably. I think the general public is tired of that, and that's why the industry doesn't pay attention to her either. And if it's not an album in another language, at least take some risk and do an album in another new style (dance, jazz, electronic etc). Whatever except that same old formula that it became clear is no longuer working for her (at least with the English market). She needs to reinvent her English career so bad. It's been many many many years always doing the same thing, and there's only so much one can last always offering the same to the public.

 

All in all, like the saying says, "been there, done that"!!!. Time to move on and do something different. After all, she's been wishing to do these projects since decades ago -like the cinema thing, but it never arrives...

I agree with everything in your post. But because Celine and her management ALWAYS makes decision around money, I'm afraid this will never happen. That's why they always try to please everybody because they want a wide demographic to buy her album. They always try to please as many people as possible with every album. If she were to release a Spanish album it would not sell much in USA because USA still mostly buys English albums. The market is so small there. In Latin America there are many people but they are not necessarily interested in Celine Dion. The trend there is Reggaeton and American dance music. Also because incomes are small there, people don't necessarily spend money on buying music, instead they get it for free off the internet. I wish Celine would release a Spanish album though. It would be great. So far she's recorded only 3 songs in Spanish. Maybe she could put those on the album and then record only 6 more.

[Brandon]

For me it's enough to have her sing in French and English. I don't care much for her to sing in other languages.

 

 

I think you are selfish for saying that. I would love to hear her singing in as many languages as possible before she dies or stops recording.

[Javito]

Spanish in Spain is different from Latin America. For example, people from Spain have been teased by Mexicans and Latin Americans because they speak very fast and practically butcher the language. They also pronounce the "C" wrong. as "TH" also sometimes they pronounce the "D" as "TH" its very strange to hear this. At least that's what My Mexican friend said. Also It is said that Mexicans speak slower and pronounce the "C" like Americans do. And that Latin Americans speak the best spanish, especially Colombians.

 

Hahaha what a joke! It's just the opposite! It's them who pronounce the C and the S differently! I won't say wrong, because it's their own culture, but definitely it's not the original and authentic Spanish with a neutral accent. The best Spanish to learn is the Spanish that has no accent and it's neutral, and that's the Spanish spoken in Spain . Precisely my hometown (Valladolid) next with Salamanca are the cities in Spain that receive more foreign people to learn and study Spanish. Spain gets thousands of foreign students every year to study Spanish here. We welcome thousands of Americans, Australians British and other fellow European students each year that come here specifically to learn Spanish, more than any other region in the country, and that's for something. I'm very proud to live in the city which is famous precisely for having the best Spanish to learn

 

Please tell your friends to get their facts right haha!

Edited February 28, 2017 at 12:39 PM by Javito

[Brandon]

Hahaha what a joke! It's just the opposite! It's them who pronounce the C and the S differently! I won't say wrong, because it's their own culture, but definitely it's not the original and authentic Spanish with a neutral accent. The best Spanish to learn is the Spanish that has no accent and it's neutral, and that's the Spanish spoken in Spain . Precisely my hometown (Valladolid) next with Salamanca are the cities in Spain that receive more foreign people to learn and study Spanish. Spain gets thousands of foreign students every year to study Spanish here. We welcome thousands of Americans, British and Australians students each year that come here specifically to learn Spanish, more than any other region in the country, and that's for something. I'm very proud to live in the city which is famous precisely for having the best Spanish to learn

 

Please tell your friends to get their facts right haha!

The best place to learn Spanish with the "TH" sound? Lol. It's very distracting. Edited February 28, 2017 at 12:40 PM by Brandon

[Javito]

I agree with everything in your post. But because Celine and her management ALWAYS makes decision around money, I'm afraid this will never happen. That's why they always try to please everybody because they want a wide demographic to buy her album. They always try to please as many people as possible with every album. If she were to release a Spanish album it would not sell much in USA because USA still mostly buys English albums. The market is so small there. In Latin America there are many people but they are not necessarily interested in Celine Dion. The trend there is Reggaeton and American dance music. Also because incomes are small there, people don't necessarily spend money on buying music, instead they get it for free off the internet. I wish Celine would release a Spanish album though. It would be great. So far she's recorded only 3 songs in Spanish. Maybe she could put those on the album and then record only 6 more.

 

It wouldn't sell much today probably because the Trump administration isn't even helping with that. He is generating hate against many things, including an irrational hate against the Spanish language and Latin people (among many other hates and phobias he has awoken of course). He eliminated the Spanish language from the White House website for starters And that wall for and against Mexicans... But let's not open that door haha.

 

Actually Céline has recorded 5 Spanish songs so far:

 

Mejor decir adiós (duet with Paul Anka)

Sola Otra Vez

Amar Haciendo El Amor

Feliz Navidad

Aun Existe Amor

 

And also collaborated in Michael Jackson's song "Todo Para Ti" (Spanish version of original "What More Can I Give")

Edited February 28, 2017 at 12:46 PM by Javito

[Javito]

The best place to learn Spanish with the "TH" sound? Lol. It's very distracting.

 

There's not such that sound here, believe me. There are many different Spanish accents in Spain, especially if you go to the southern cities of Spain, but not in the middle section of the country, and particularly where I live. There's no accent at all, the Spanish here is completely neutral.

 

Anyway this went so off-topic sorry!

Edited February 28, 2017 at 12:48 PM by Javito

[Brandon]

It wouldn't sell much today probably because the Trump administration isn't even helping with that. He is generating hate against many things, including an irrational hate against the Spanish language and Latin people (among many other hates and phobias he has awoken of course). He eliminated the Spanish language from the White House website for starters And that wall for and against Mexicans... But let's not open that door haha.

 

Actually Céline has recorded 5 Spanish songs so far:

 

Mejor decir adiós (duet with Paul Anka)

Sola Otra Vez

Amar Haciendo El Amor

Feliz Navidad

Aun Existe Amor

 

And also collaborated in Michael Jackson's song "Todo Para Ti" (Spanish version of original "What More Can I Give")

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Javito you can't say those things on here, regarding Trump etc. That's like setting off fireworks in a crowded theater yelling 'FIRE' at the top of your lungs. You have brave for saying it but I don't automatically agree with everything you say.

It's a very complicated topic, and you can't really speak about it unless you've lived in bordering cities. There is also the perpetual view that foreigners seem to have about Americans, which is often misguided and unfair. I won't go further but if you want you can take it to private messaging..

[Javito]

:w00t: :w00t:

Javito you can't say those things on here, regarding Trump etc. That's like setting off fireworks in a crowded theater yelling 'FIRE' at the top of your lungs. You have brave for saying it but I don't automatically agree with everything you say.

It's a very complicated topic, and you can't really speak about it unless you've lived in bordering cities. There is also the perpetual view that foreigners seem to have about Americans, which is often misguided and unfair. I won't go further but if you want you can take it to private messaging..

 

I know and that's why I have the utmost respect on these topics, and for the people living directly the situation You're right too. However I don't think there's much reasoning behind eliminating the Spanish language from the WH website when there are millions of Spanish-speaking inhabitants in your country. Why do that? It's nosense.

 

Sooo back on topic, we mostly agree that we love Celine singing other languages, beside French and English lol

Edited February 28, 2017 at 01:05 PM by Javito

[DionFanAlways]

Spanish in Spain is different from Latin America. For example, people from Spain have been teased by Mexicans and Latin Americans because they speak very fast and practically butcher the language. They also pronounce the "C" wrong. as "TH" also sometimes they pronounce the "D" as "TH" its very strange to hear this. At least that's what My Mexican friend said. Also It is said that Mexicans speak slower and pronounce the "C" like Americans do. And that Latin Americans speak the best spanish, especially Colombians.

There you go again jumping on people's native languages, you must be a language major??? A linguist perhaps??? Saying the Spanish "practically butcher the language." That's funny!

[CelinesDIVO5]

There you go again jumping on people's native languages, you must be a language major??? A linguist perhaps??? Saying the Spanish "practically butcher the language." That's funny!

 

I just can't. I feel like I'm constantly counting to 10 when I read his posts.

[Brandon]

I know and that's why I have the utmost respect on these topics, and for the people living directly the situation You're right too. However I don't think there's much reasoning behind eliminating the Spanish language from the WH website when there are millions of Spanish-speaking inhabitants in your country. Why do that? It's nosense.

 

Sooo back on topic, we mostly agree that we love Celine singing other languages, beside French and English lol

I see what you did there. Edited February 28, 2017 at 02:46 PM by Brandon

[Brandon]

There you go again jumping on people's native languages, you must be a language major??? A linguist perhaps??? Saying the Spanish "practically butcher the language." That's funny!

No it's my Mexican friend said it.. Edited February 28, 2017 at 02:49 PM by Brandon

[Celine Fan 77]

Spanish in Spain is different from Latin America. For example, people from Spain have been teased by Mexicans and Latin Americans because they speak very fast and practically butcher the language. They also pronounce the "C" wrong. as "TH" also sometimes they pronounce the "D" as "TH" its very strange to hear this. At least that's what My Mexican friend said. Also It is said that Mexicans speak slower and pronounce the "C" like Americans do. And that Latin Americans speak the best spanish, especially Colombians.

 

 

With all respect, we don't pronounce the "C" wrong and all the other things you mentioned. Your friend should get his facts right lol. Spanish from Latin America isn't better than Spanish from Spain, it's just a different Spanish, which makes the language itself richer and more diverse.

 

This reminds me of people who say English from UK is better than US English, or French from France better than Quebec French... All that stuff just doesn't make any sense to me.

[DionFanAlways]

No it's my Mexican friend said it..

Ahora comprendo......

 

[celinesounds]

If she does a Spanish album a Portuguese song is welcome

Is just the 5th language in the world

5 is her lucky number .

[Taking Chances]

I don't want any duet or any remake of a classic. I just want Céline

 

 

But if there was a duet, I'd love it to be with Sia. Yes yes I love Sia, I love when Céline sings a Sia song. I know, not a popular opinion but yup I loooove it!

 

I'd love a duet with Sia too, and I think a lot of us as Celine fans actually like Sia. I feel like the "problem" with that is that Celine will probably try to sound like Sia and not like herself. If we got a Celine/Sia duet where Sia sounds like Sia, and Celine sounds like HERSELF, then we'd hit the jackpot. (Of course the song needs to be good too)

 

Sia is great, she's a instant hit-maker currently, and collaborating with her today means success. So I agree it can only do good right now. But the only problem is that if Céline continues to fangirl about her 24/7, it can be tiring.

 

Yes, it would probably be a hit. I feel like the problem is more Celine trying to sound like Sia rather than fan-girling over her.

[angelil78]

I think you are selfish for saying that. I would love to hear her singing in as many languages as possible before she dies or stops recording.

 

Why is my comment more selfish than any others here? We are all being selfish stating our opinions on what we want and do not want. That's called having an opinion about something.

[celine4evauk]

 

 

 

With all respect, we don't pronounce the "C" wrong and all the other things you mentioned. Your friend should get his facts right lol. Spanish from Latin America isn't better than Spanish from Spain, it's just a different Spanish, which makes the language itself richer and more diverse.

 

This reminds me of people who say English from UK is better than US English, or French from France better than Quebec French... All that stuff just doesn't make any sense to me.

 

That's because we do speak better english than anywhere else in the world!

 

😂hope you know I'm joking here?!😂

 

I see languages in accents. You have regional accents in English, American etc. I see french and spanish in accents also. As an example, french is in some ways different to canadian french. Same goes for spanish etc. One accent isn't wrong compared to another. They all have their place in the world. It's what distinguishes us all.

[Taking Chances]

That's because we do speak better english than anywhere else in the world!

 

😂hope you know I'm joking here?!😂

 

I see languages in accents. You have regional accents in English, American etc. I see french and spanish in accents also. As an example, french is in some ways different to canadian french. Same goes for spanish etc. One accent isn't wrong compared to another. They all have their place in the world. It's what distinguishes us all.

 

You think UK English is the best, huh? 😂 My native language is US English and I always loved a when I heard a British/English accent. I've never been able to do one myself. At least not believable. You can hear the American straight away, lol.

 

When it comes to singing, I prefer for Celine to not have an "French" accent when she's singing English songs. Is that too selfish? I feel like it cheapens the song if she doesn't put in an effort. As would I feel if I spoke Spanish or French, and Celine didn't put in an effort there either, but I don't speak Spanish or French so I wouldn't be able to tell.

 

I'm not saying she does this though, it's just my opinion.

[celine4evauk]

 

 

You think UK English is the best, huh? 😂 My native language is US English and I always loved a when I heard a British/English accent. I've never been able to do one myself. At least not believable. You can hear the American straight away, lol.

 

When it comes to singing, I prefer for Celine to not have an "French" accent when she's singing English songs. Is that too selfish? I feel like it cheapens the song if she doesn't put in an effort. As would I feel if I spoke Spanish or French, and Celine didn't put in an effort there either, but I don't speak Spanish or French so I wouldn't be able to tell.

 

I'm not saying she does this though, it's just my opinion.

 

Lol its the same when brits try to do an American accent. Few can actually do it!

I do know what you mean though. I think Celine at times has her accent in her english recordings. Especially her latter ones rather than the 90's ones. Maybe it's the producers. I remember listening to TCOML album when I first got it and didn't know she was francophone. The only thing I noticed was when she pronounced the H in honest. Other than that I didn't have a clue.

For the next album I hope the producers try and get clear wording from her,great pronunciation that we know she can give.