"Courage" album - Official Topic

[isurrender]

 

 

People in their 20’s grew up with Celine....

 

Kev x

 

I mean ppl in the 20s in 2018.

 

 

 

[celinesounds]

Celine's fans are around 30 and 45,

She got the big pic of fame in 95, this was more than 20 years ago when those people were teenagers,

she had a young fan base, who grow up with her, and are those people that makes her a successful artist, in sold out shows, album sales...

 

 

And she only needs to be Celine

 

Why try to push back other audiences trying to be other artist....

 

 

People love her because she is human and natural, not something fake

[zuv]

I'm not sure I want the Sia songs on her albums anymore (and I'm a HUGE fan of her), because either they can be too good and are too different from the rest, so then they stand out from the rest of the songs, being the rest of the album mediocre, or they're also forgettable and she got them only because it's "Sia" who wrote them

Sia wrote her a complete album, and Celine only picked three. I guessing those are the best 3 songs hahah

[celinesounds]

Sia wrote her a complete album, and Celine only picked three. I guessing those are the best 3 songs hahah

 

in terms of concept could be very interning having an album wrote and produced by the same team

[Javito]

 

Sia wrote her a complete album, and Celine only picked three. I guessing those are the best 3 songs hahah

 

A full album? That’s news to me Do we have a confirmation of this?

[angelil78]

A full album? That's news to me Do we have a confirmation of this?

 

Yeah wasn't it more like Céline wanted Sia to write her a full album

[Bruno Portugal]

As I remember from several interviews in the past two years, Sia inicially wrote 3 songs to Celine. From that Celine recorded two songs. Then Sia sent several new songs to Celine. So many that Celine herself said that the new album could be named "Sia by Celine". She added that she would keep the best ones.

And as we already know Stephan Moccio and others are working on the new album.

[zuv]

A full album? That’s news to me Do we have a confirmation of this?

See Bruno’s answer below

 

As I remember from several interviews in the past two years, Sia inicially wrote 3 songs to Celine. From that Celine recorded two songs. Then Sia sent several new songs to Celine. So many that Celine herself said that the new album could be named "Sia by Celine". She added that she would keep the best ones.

And as we already know Stephan Moccio and others are working on the new album.

Thanks for this, i would not have time to find that statement or Céline’s interview.

Edited April 8, 2018 at 06:44 PM by zuv

[mb011]

As much as I want brand new material, I am still secretly hoping she will do a cover of "Love of my life". That song keeps the memory of last years Euro tour, the historic time I attended a Celine concert . Let that be a small favor, after no dvd was released...

 

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[mirage]

I don't care how many songs Sia or someone else writes for her.

 

As long as she sounds like Celine.

 

But she always has a way to sound like the person who sings the demo.

 

I get that she likes to experiment and all, but she doesn't need to sound a whole song/album exactly as the one who wrote it.

[DionFanAlways]

I don't care if Sia writes the next 8 albums (exaggeration there), even in French, go for it Sia but Celine, please sound like you and don't try to sound like Sia or Adele. Edited April 8, 2018 at 10:50 PM by DionFanAlways

[melquilisboa]

She was once, with the A New Day Has Come and One Heart albums. In 2002 and with the single IDAN she was cooler than ever (if that's a correct term to use with her).

 

Better said, she was "cool" those two years without she pretending to be cool, and that's another success she added to the list during those years full of success and new achievements with those albums. She was everywhere, she was played everywhere, and I dare to say people loved her music more than ever, including a younger generation she hadn't conquered before

 

But... she decided to go in different ways of popularity and success and closed that door with her voluntary retirement to Vegas, at the top of her game.

Are you drunk? Since when did ''ANDHC'' sound cool to the 2000s generation? Its biggest dick is a ballad played the most at AC radios, not in vain that all of those singles flopped... One Heart in the other hand did sound ''fresh'' at that time, but she did the bare minimum to promote that album and ruined OH video with that ''image'' and hair....She definitely never tried

[québecflower]

Can people be a bit more polite around here?

 

signed: a canadian

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

Are you drunk? Since when did ''ANDHC'' sound cool to the 2000s generation? Its biggest dick is a ballad played the most at AC radios, not in vain that all of those singles flopped... One Heart in the other hand did sound ''fresh'' at that time, but she did the bare minimum to promote that album and ruined OH video with that ''image'' and hair....She definitely never tried

 

I actually loved the OH video hair...

[mirage]

It is her most uptempo modern hip video she ever made!

 

Love it!

 

 

 

I actually loved the OH video hair...

[melquilisboa]

Why would she be cool to the younger generation?

 

She is 50.

 

I don't listen to people in their 60s. Why would the 20s listen to her?

Madonna is nearly 60 and she has more young fans than actual pop singers....the same for Mariah, Gwen, Kylie etc

[melquilisboa]

 

 

I actually loved the OH video hair...

She wasn't even 40 and that hair gave her 20 more years

[Javito]

Are you drunk? Since when did ''ANDHC'' sound cool to the 2000s generation? Its biggest dick is a ballad played the most at AC radios, not in vain that all of those singles flopped... One Heart in the other hand did sound ''fresh'' at that time, but she did the bare minimum to promote that album and ruined OH video with that ''image'' and hair....She definitely never tried

 

I only drink... water

 

I don't have time to reply to an array of nosense you said, one after the other... You're too much of a baby to know how the 2002/2003 years really were for Céline and all the radios were she was played, whose main demographic was the young audiences, and all the TV shows she was invited were all the public was in their teens/20s.

 

The last argument saying she ruined the OH video with her hair and arguing THAT as a reason to deffend the album was not "cool" because of that, it makes me laugh so hard

 

BTW, I wasn't referring to the OH single when I talked about the 2003 album, but the lead single I Drove All Night, which was the only one who got attention in radios worldwide

[isurrender]

 

Madonna is nearly 60 and she has more young fans than actual pop singers....the same for Mariah, Gwen, Kylie etc

 

lol

 

[Javito]

The debate about her 2003 look making her look old is reaching a level of stupidity hard to deal with!

 

For starters, she had different and variations of looks with that blonde look. She may not look great when she turned the colour into that platinum variation (e.g. 2003 Billboards, A New Day unreleased DVD), BUT she looked great and actually young when she had it short and in a normal colour in the One Heart videoclip or the stunning look of the 2003 Divas Las Vegas performance. If you think that look was making her old and not the horrible slick look she was having lately in Vegas with that hair just combed back and her pale skin and dresses, go and make someone treat your eyes seriously.

 

Then P!nk is living on a permanent old look making her look like she's 70 years old right? Jesus Christ :rolleyes:

 

I insist that she looked GREAT with THIS version of the short hair:

 

 

I reckon she did NOT look well with THIS variation of the blonde hair:

 

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/H8AHNA/celine-dion-2003-billboard-music-awards-p-mgm-grand-garden-arena-mgm-H8AHNA.jpg

 

But between the black and white's some of you are saying, there are grays which actually look nice

[gafsa]

 

 

I only drink... water

 

I don't have time to reply to an array of nosense you said, one after the other... You're too much of a baby to know how the 2002/2003 years really were for Céline and all the radios were she was played, whose main demographic was the young audiences, and all the TV shows she was invited were all the public was in their teens/20s.

 

The last argument saying she ruined the OH video with her hair and arguing THAT as a reason to deffend the album was not "cool" because of that, it makes me laugh so hard

 

BTW, I wasn't referring to the OH single when I talked about the 2003 album, but the lead single I Drove All Night, which was the only one who got attention in radios worldwide

 

I always remember that era as the f*ck era. I mean she become artist of the month in MTV Asia, they playad preview of her songs from that album daily, many teenager interested with the songs, but then they promoted HYEBIL more than any other song wich is the least interesting for teen. And the GTSW, and then it fade away. It has potential, but they choose average ballad, not even the great ballad like IS.

[donpi86]

I think that she onlu sounded "cool" in the 90's and with the poisoned jewel-signature song My Heart Will Go On... Celine is a mainly a 90's product and she was "cool" in there... the rest.. it's has been a very good hangover and she earned the legend status because of Titanic and because she has become the perfect ceremony diva for an anthem, a In memoriam, a honouring moment...etc.. at the end, she is one of the most interesting voices in music history.

 

Thats the way it is was a hit because it sounded like a N'sync song and it was the first new song when My Heart dream was ending and people was getting really sick of hearing the flute and suddenly it was not another ballad, it was a fresh copy of what everybody was singing at that moment. Then You Look at me should have been the next great My heart will go on buuuut the movie was kind of failure sooo...plans broken... I still remember the song entering in the TOP40 here in spain, I was in school.. and I remember another friends, who actually liked That's the way it is, saying... "Ouh... another ballad... " But I looooove so much TYLAM... i wish Titanic never existed and maybe this one becoming the signature song...

 

And I think that Rene saw very cleverly that this new 2000's were going to be wild and crazy in music bussiness and there was no space for cheesy love ballad Divas anymore (by the moment, Celine is the only survivor of that era) and Vegas plan was a risky movement but a legend status plan... build a stage for someone its a serious bet... but he is a gambler... and a good one.. A New Day and One heart I think they were testing and preparing the Vegas show... ANDHC and IA were some kind of succesful, I still hear it in some AC radios... but they were already very far of what "cool" music or pop was starting to do... and then IDAN is a Roy Orbison timeless classic and this arragement is a kind of easy update from Cindy Lauper's so the success was kind of assured... they were repeating the 90's Power of love formula.

 

And since then, she has become that, the ceremony singer for worldwide attention, the Vegas singer, and the 90's diva rents for a HUGE fan base. The last english albums are just routines for that fan base and easy money but not "cool" or interesting for the new audiences, she doesn't need them... just a bit of tv promotion to remember people that she is still in the game... and to remember us that the glorious 90's are still in here...

 

and finishing.. sorry for the long post... I think that the only way to become current or "cool" is abandoning "pop" music completely. Look for songs that sound timeless in the music arragements and production... In some way Pink was very wise proposing a song that could have been sung in the 60's, 80's or 2020.. Recovering is simple but is deep and touches soul no matter which are the trendings of the era... is timeless. New pop is far away from Celine, is about scandal and morbid, and still works for madonna, she is a chameleon, she is always trending because she has always been very open minded but not Celine, she plays the role of the classy cheesy Diva... I don't see celine twerking with Nicky Minaj.... Even getting close to Sia is already outdated... I hope she goes in the way of timeless music productions of british artists like Adele or Sam Smith...

 

And as ususal I'm ignoring french side... and this are just my thoughts.. haha thanks for reading ;-)

[Javito]

Melquilisboa, fan who was 4 years old in 2002 when ANDHC was released (LOL), please read below!

 

 

 

I always remember that era as the f*ck era. I mean she become artist of the month in MTV Asia, they playad preview of her songs from that album daily, many teenager interested with the songs, but then they promoted HYEBIL more than any other song wich is the least interesting for teen. And the GTSW, and then it fade away. It has potential, but they choose average ballad, not even the great ballad like IS.

 

Thank you!! MTV, not less! A major music platform addressed to a TEENAGER public (those were the days ). I didn’t know that, thanks for sharing.

 

Again that’s a PROOF of how popular she was in 2002 EVERYWHERE and thanks for giving us another testimony for the Debbie downers and doubters who still doubt Celine was at the highest point of her career in 2002 and literally played and requested to be everywhere!

 

Some of the few things that I still like about this forum is that I can find fans from every corner of the world that can vouch for what we discuss here

Edited April 9, 2018 at 10:05 AM by Javito

[Bruno Portugal]

I don't want to start a debate here but I follow her career since 1995 and I must say that Celine Dion was the major pop singer in the world between 1996 and 1999. 2002 was a great year but nothing compared to the previews years.

 

In 1995 Think Twice was a massive hit in Europe then came Pour Que Tu M'Aimes Encore turning Celine Dion the #1 singer in both English and French. She was huge in Europe.

 

1996 brought us Falling Into You her bestseller and awarded album to date. She was huge all over the world.

 

1997 the Celine Dion reigns the world with Titanic and Let's Talk About Love. She turns a diva.

 

1998 the world tour, S'ill Suffisait D'Aimer (2nd best selling French album ever after D'Eux) and the critically acclaimed These Are Special Times.

 

1999 was the year of the Celine's buz because of her announced hiatus and the bestseller All The Way and the hit single That's The Way It Is. Even MTV wanted Celine.

 

2002 was an important year but the world was talking about Shakira not Celine.

 

Today, Celine Dion is a living legend with a golden voice and WE NEED A GREAT BRAND-NEW ALBUM SOON!

 

😉

[isurrender]

2002 was an important year because it was heavely promoted as her come back.

 

Just like 1f4t in 2003, for the french side.

 

But all faded away afterwards.

 

Both albums quickly fell out of the charts and what came next did even worse.

[Shaun]

Javier, I can't agree that the blonde look suited her. As Celine herself said in the "A New Day..." DVD everyone hated it. It shouldn't matter of course what other people think however the vast majority thought it was a disaster. The Divas Las Vegas picture you've chosen is actually one of her worst looks in my opinion. Another one was The Today Show 2003, my goodness:

 

http://www.celinedionweb.com/images/event/2003/celine-dion-performs-on-the-nbc-today-show_20030710ts001.jpg

 

When she started to grow it out and go platinum I think it actually suited her better as seen her in early 2004:

 

http://www.celinedionweb.com/images/event/2004/celine-dion_20040124nb014.jpg

 

When she returned to her "normal" look in mid 2004 she looked much better. Again, just my opinion. Interesting she hasn't really swayed much from this look since though.

 

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/bg/Celine+Dion+2004+World+Music+Awards+Press+oj9lxZtIunFl.jpg

[Javito]

Haha. Right the opposite of me lol. I can't say the platinum look suited her at all. She looked totally like a grandma there. However, the first version of the HYEBIL and OH videos has been a look imitated by young girls everywhere since ever, before, during and after Céline (like I said, it's P!nk's signature look)

 

I agree with you that the Today Show version was horrible and make her look old, but that's already the platinum version we're talking about. In Jay Leno, where she was "just" blonde, with a natural colour, she looked great to me (if only it was the song she was singing, HYEBIL which make her look old ). Add to that that those days she had some good tan and some colour on her cheeks and she looked exactly like a beautiful 35 year old girl imo. But horses for courses they say! We agree to disagree then

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_vb_QiGyr0

 

Ahhh, those days

Edited April 9, 2018 at 12:14 PM by Javito

[jpatdeleon09]

Reminds me of Carol from The Walking Dead...

[gafsa]

Reminds me of Carol from The Walking Dead...

 

I was walking dead Stuck inside my head I couldn't get out Turned the lights down The voices inside was so loud....

[melquilisboa]

Haha. Right the opposite of me lol. I can't say the platinum look suited her at all. She looked totally like a grandma there. However, the first version of the HYEBIL and OH videos has been a look imitated by young girls everywhere since ever, before, during and after Céline (like I said, it's P!nk's signature look)

 

I agree with you that the Today Show version was horrible and make her look old, but that's already the platinum version we're talking about. In Jay Leno, where she was "just" blonde, with a natural colour, she looked great to me (if only it was the song she was singing, HYEBIL which make her look old ). Add to that that those days she had some good tan and some colour on her cheeks and she looked exactly like a beautiful 35 year old girl imo. But horses for courses they say! We agree to disagree then

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_vb_QiGyr0

 

Ahhh, those days

You're really comparing Céline with Pink like it was only about the hair omg!!!! Hunty, it's about Céline's face and wrinkles! A long hair always covers them, that's why she always looks younger when she's with long hair....you can't compare Céline with any singer, she's the one who aged the worst, it's on her genes