Second single: "Incredible" - Duet with Ne-Yo

[celinefan1985]

 

 

Nothing is more radio friendly than the song LMBTL.

 

And look at how that did at radio...

[dj4celine]

How do I go about this in a gentle way?..

 

There are a billion people on the internet making fanvideos set to music. What makes Curtis' "work" so special? Why should Sony pick some random kid to direct music videos for one of their legendary artists when they have the ability to pick from an endless pool of seasoned professionals? It's not only unheard of, it's illogical.

 

Look, it's nice that he's enthusiastic and obviously has a gift for self-promotion so early on in life, that's a much needed skill if you want to get into this field, but a lot of his actions have been shady. They include: purposefully mislabeling videos as official to get more views, then disabling the comments to hide critical comments, publicly accusing Thierry (the director of the mv's on "Sans Attendre") of plagiarism (which is a f****** serious charge) based on superficial similarities to his own fanvideo that consisted of stock footage he didn't own (he could've gotten in serious trouble for that one..). Not to mention it's so funny to contact a company and try to force them to hire you after you've illegally used their copyrighted material for your own personal vanity films on youtube focused on your family's trip to see Celine in Vegas (really????????). All of the above shows entitlement, arrogance and dishonesty.

 

I'm going to be frank. If you watch any of Curtis' original work, it looks like something straight out of a tiny town's amateur teenage film festival. Even casting aside the issue of credentials, directing a professional music video takes a lot more than just editing skills, which happen in the post-production (and is what he basically does with his video collages), but he lacks many basic film skills and techniques.

 

I mean, seriously??

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQjdXhN7nsA

 

He's a young kid, he might well grow and evolve into a talented director, who knows. But I'm not going to contribute to the sabotaging of Celine's career by joining a campaign to have some unqualified random direct her comeback music videos

 

 

 

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ibva1fOg1r46j0c.gif

 

Thank you!

I couldn't have said it better

[LukeD]

How do I go about this in a gentle way?..

 

There are a billion people on the internet making fanvideos set to music. What makes Curtis' "work" so special? Why should Sony pick some random kid to direct music videos for one of their legendary artists when they have the ability to pick from an endless pool of seasoned professionals? It's not only unheard of, it's illogical.

 

Look, it's nice that he's enthusiastic and obviously has a gift for self-promotion so early on in life, that's a much needed skill if you want to get into this field, but a lot of his actions have been shady. They include: purposefully mislabeling videos as official to get more views, then disabling the comments to hide critical comments, publicly accusing Thierry (the director of the mv's on "Sans Attendre") of plagiarism (which is a f****** serious charge) based on superficial similarities to his own fanvideo that consisted of stock footage he didn't own (he could've gotten in serious trouble for that one..). Not to mention it's so funny to contact a company and try to force them to hire you after you've illegally used their copyrighted material for your own personal vanity films on youtube focused on your family's trip to see Celine in Vegas (really????????). All of the above shows entitlement, arrogance and dishonesty.

 

I'm going to be frank. If you watch any of Curtis' original work, it looks like something straight out of a tiny town's amateur teenage film festival. Even casting aside the issue of credentials, directing a professional music video takes a lot more than just editing skills, which happen in the post-production (and is what he basically does with his video collages), but he lacks many basic film skills and techniques.

 

Adopt me! (Since the whole ''Marry me'' thing is overused in this forum ) Edited October 24, 2013 at 10:41 PM by LukeD

[CelinesDIVO5]

How do I go about this in a gentle way?..

 

There are a billion people on the internet making fanvideos set to music. What makes Curtis' "work" so special? Why should Sony pick some random kid to direct music videos for one of their legendary artists when they have the ability to pick from an endless pool of seasoned professionals? It's not only unheard of, it's illogical.

 

Look, it's nice that he's enthusiastic and obviously has a gift for self-promotion so early on in life, that's a much needed skill if you want to get into this field, but a lot of his actions have been shady. They include: purposefully mislabeling videos as official to get more views, then disabling the comments to hide critical comments, publicly accusing Thierry (the director of the mv's on "Sans Attendre") of plagiarism (which is a f****** serious charge) based on superficial similarities to his own fanvideo that consisted of stock footage he didn't own (he could've gotten in serious trouble for that one..). Not to mention it's so funny to contact a company and try to force them to hire you after you've illegally used their copyrighted material for your own personal vanity films on youtube focused on your family's trip to see Celine in Vegas (really????????). All of the above shows entitlement, arrogance and dishonesty.

 

I'm going to be frank. If you watch any of Curtis' original work, it looks like something straight out of a tiny town's amateur teenage film festival. Even casting aside the issue of credentials, directing a professional music video takes a lot more than just editing skills, which happen in the post-production (and is what he basically does with his video collages), but he lacks many basic film skills and techniques.

 

I mean, seriously??

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQjdXhN7nsA

 

He's a young kid, he might well grow and evolve into a talented director, who knows. But I'm not going to contribute to the sabotaging of Celine's career by joining a campaign to have some unqualified random direct her comeback music videos

 

 

 

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ibva1fOg1r46j0c.gif

 

I agree with him being a bit too young for the big leagues. His work has been good, but he's still amateur. I don't remember seeing any of his videos labelled as official though, except for a trailer for a piece that he was working on saying it was the official trailer for what the finished product would be. Everything else he's put up has been labelled "UN-OFFICIAL"...I don't think he's trying to take any copyright, and the whole Thierry thing was based off of an email that was supposedly sent to him from Curtis. I have never seen the email, and as far as I know, neither have you. And we probably will never see the email. So, we are in no position to point fingers, call names, or make judgments. Nobody here has any reason to not like him, especially since they don't even know him. Now, when it comes to people like "CelineGreece" therein lies a problem, because this person watermarks EVERYTHING as if it's theirs.

Edited October 24, 2013 at 10:46 PM by CelinesDIVO5

[QueenCeline87]

 

 

How do I go about this in a gentle way?..

 

There are a billion people on the internet making fanvideos set to music. What makes Curtis' "work" so special? Why should Sony pick some random kid to direct music videos for one of their legendary artists when they have the ability to pick from an endless pool of seasoned professionals? It's not only unheard of, it's illogical.

 

Look, it's nice that he's enthusiastic and obviously has a gift for self-promotion so early on in life, that's a much needed skill if you want to get into this field, but a lot of his actions have been shady. They include: purposefully mislabeling videos as official to get more views, then disabling the comments to hide critical comments, publicly accusing Thierry (the director of the mv's on "Sans Attendre") of plagiarism (which is a f****** serious charge) based on superficial similarities to his own fanvideo that consisted of stock footage he didn't own (he could've gotten in serious trouble for that one..). Not to mention it's so funny to contact a company and try to force them to hire you after you've illegally used their copyrighted material for your own personal vanity films on youtube focused on your family's trip to see Celine in Vegas (really????????). All of the above shows entitlement, arrogance and dishonesty.

 

I'm going to be frank. If you watch any of Curtis' original work, it looks like something straight out of a tiny town's amateur teenage film festival. Even casting aside the issue of credentials, directing a professional music video takes a lot more than just editing skills, which happen in the post-production (and is what he basically does with his video collages), but he lacks many basic film skills and techniques.

 

I mean, seriously??

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQjdXhN7nsA

 

He's a young kid, he might well grow and evolve into a talented director, who knows. But I'm not going to contribute to the sabotaging of Celine's career by joining a campaign to have some unqualified random direct her comeback music videos

 

 

 

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ibva1fOg1r46j0c.gif

 

Couldn't agree more!

I mean I'm happy for him that he has met Celine etc and I wish him well in pursuing his dreams.

But the fact is he is using Celine for his own personal gain!

Incredible isn't officially realeased and he is one of the ones helping the leaks spread by putting it on YouTube!!

And im Sorry if that sounds mean but it's my opinion on the matter.

And as for Celines team telling him there will be no videos for this album at all?? I doubt it ...

[CelinesDIVO5]

Couldn't agree more!

I mean I'm happy for him that he has met Celine etc and I wish him well in pursuing his dreams.

But the fact is he is using Celine for his own personal gain!

Incredible isn't officially realeased and he is one of the ones helping the leaks spread by putting it on YouTube!!

And im Sorry if that sounds mean but it's my opinion on the matter.

And as for Celines team telling him there will be no videos for this album at all?? I doubt it ...

 

I was disappointed in him leaking "Incredible" until I watched the video...where he spliced the audio to where if someone wanted the song they wouldn't be able to unlayer anything. There's also a big pause between the intro and the first verse...which I thought was smart.

[littleames]

How do I go about this in a gentle way?..

 

There are a billion people on the internet making fanvideos set to music. What makes Curtis' "work" so special? Why should Sony pick some random kid to direct music videos for one of their legendary artists when they have the ability to pick from an endless pool of seasoned professionals? It's not only unheard of, it's illogical.

 

Look, it's nice that he's enthusiastic and obviously has a gift for self-promotion so early on in life, that's a much needed skill if you want to get into this field, but a lot of his actions have been shady. They include: purposefully mislabeling videos as official to get more views, then disabling the comments to hide critical comments, publicly accusing Thierry (the director of the mv's on "Sans Attendre") of plagiarism (which is a f****** serious charge) based on superficial similarities to his own fanvideo that consisted of stock footage he didn't own (he could've gotten in serious trouble for that one..). Not to mention it's so funny to contact a company and try to force them to hire you after you've illegally used their copyrighted material for your own personal vanity films on youtube focused on your family's trip to see Celine in Vegas (really????????). All of the above shows entitlement, arrogance and dishonesty.

 

I'm going to be frank. If you watch any of Curtis' original work, it looks like something straight out of a tiny town's amateur teenage film festival. Even casting aside the issue of credentials, directing a professional music video takes a lot more than just editing skills, which happen in the post-production (and is what he basically does with his video collages), but he lacks many basic film skills and techniques.

 

I mean, seriously??

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQjdXhN7nsA

 

He's a young kid, he might well grow and evolve into a talented director, who knows. But I'm not going to contribute to the sabotaging of Celine's career by joining a campaign to have some unqualified random direct her comeback music videos

 

 

 

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ibva1fOg1r46j0c.gif

http://media.tumblr.com/6672ddb4e2ec5c297695aeb4d968eb61/tumblr_inline_mv73crUwkx1r1bhbc.pngBravo!

[québecflower]

Couldn't agree more!

I mean I'm happy for him that he has met Celine etc and I wish him well in pursuing his dreams.

But the fact is he is using Celine for his own personal gain!

Incredible isn't officially realeased and he is one of the ones helping the leaks spread by putting it on YouTube!!

And im Sorry if that sounds mean but it's my opinion on the matter.

And as for Celines team telling him there will be no videos for this album at all?? I doubt it ...

 

yeah, but they answered him......

[CelinesDIVO5]

The kid found something he was passionate about (Celine) and made a few beautiful amateur fan videos. He's an 18 year old kid...not a 40 year old top notch producer. We all have to start somewhere. Where do most singers start?? Singing COVERS...for what? To get noticed. This is exactly what he's doing with his films.

[dj4celine]

Please can we get back to topic?

[LukeD]

Nobody here has any reason to not like him, especially since they don't even know him. Now, when it comes to people like "CelineGreece" therein lies a problem, because this person watermarks EVERYTHING as if it's theirs.

He got material he didn't own to create ''his'' documentary about his journey to Vegas and meeting Celine. He edited scenes and the peak of his narcissism is that he put himself AND his mother in front of the the camera to comment about the show (Next to official statements from Celine's team) as if they were significant celebrities that had something interesting to say. Edited October 24, 2013 at 10:57 PM by LukeD

[Xpresso]

Can we draw the Curtains? Edited October 24, 2013 at 11:03 PM by Xpresso

[LukeD]

The kid found something he was passionate about (Celine) and made a few beautiful amateur fan videos. He's an 18 year old kid...not a 40 year old top notch producer. We all have to start somewhere. Where do most singers start?? Singing COVERS...for what? To get noticed. This is exactly what he's doing with his films.

Singing covers is not illegal though.

[littleames]

The kid found something he was passionate about (Celine) and made a few beautiful amateur fan videos. He's an 18 year old kid...not a 40 year old top notch producer. We all have to start somewhere. Where do most singers start?? Singing COVERS...for what? To get noticed. This is exactly what he's doing with his films.

I agree with that, it's good to do something you're passionate about. As far as him producing Celine's music videos though...HELL to the NO!

[LukeD]

Please can we get back to topic?

See? I told you the song was a bit... meh. Only one day since it was leaked and people prefer to talk about Curtis Woodside.

[littleames]

I can't believe Ne-Yo is wearing birkenstocks lol

I have a pair from middle school in the back of my closet that never see the light of day...ever!

[québecflower]

See? I told you the song was a bit... meh. Only one day since it was leaked and people prefer to talk about Curtis Woodside.

 

we should return to NE-yo and his socks in the sandals...What a beautiful man he is

[ehild]

How do I go about this in a gentle way?..

 

There are a billion people on the internet making fanvideos set to music. What makes Curtis' "work" so special? Why should Sony pick some random kid to direct music videos for one of their legendary artists when they have the ability to pick from an endless pool of seasoned professionals? It's not only unheard of, it's illogical.

 

Look, it's nice that he's enthusiastic and obviously has a gift for self-promotion so early on in life, that's a much needed skill if you want to get into this field, but a lot of his actions have been shady. They include: purposefully mislabeling videos as official to get more views, then disabling the comments to hide critical comments, publicly accusing Thierry (the director of the mv's on "Sans Attendre") of plagiarism (which is a f****** serious charge) based on superficial similarities to his own fanvideo that consisted of stock footage he didn't own (he could've gotten in serious trouble for that one..). Not to mention it's so funny to contact a company and try to force them to hire you after you've illegally used their copyrighted material for your own personal vanity films on youtube focused on your family's trip to see Celine in Vegas (really????????). All of the above shows entitlement, arrogance and dishonesty.

 

I'm going to be frank. If you watch any of Curtis' original work, it looks like something straight out of a tiny town's amateur teenage film festival. Even casting aside the issue of credentials, directing a professional music video takes a lot more than just editing skills, which happen in the post-production (and is what he basically does with his video collages), but he lacks many basic film skills and techniques.

 

I mean, seriously??

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQjdXhN7nsA

 

He's a young kid, he might well grow and evolve into a talented director, who knows. But I'm not going to contribute to the sabotaging of Celine's career by joining a campaign to have some unqualified random direct her comeback music videos

 

 

 

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ibva1fOg1r46j0c.gif

Of course he won't be doing it on his own. That wouldn't make sense. You're right in that aspect. I do think he could offer some fresh ideas and use it more as an intern type opportunity to hone his own his skills and work on his career as well while he's going to school. Everyone has to start somewhere. I can't really speak to any of the accusations because I don't know what did or didn't happen. I can understand why he would think that with some things but keep in mind he's 18......he's young so he may jump the gun on some things, yes, but he'll learn.

[dj4celine]

See? I told you the song was a bit... meh. Only one day since it was leaked and people prefer to talk about Curtis Woodside.

I think it's time for me to make a quick trip to Greece just to your pretty

[CelinesDIVO5]

He got material he didn't own to create ''his'' documentary about his journey to Vegas and meeting Celine. He edited scenes and the peak of his narcissism is that he put himself AND his mother in front of the the camera to comment about the show (Next to official statements from Celine's team) as if they were significant celebrities that had something interesting to say.

No, it wasn't technically his footage, but he also used footage that was already illegally recorded and uploaded to youtube as well from Celine's shows. However, nobody complained when the original uploader showed it to us because "Hey, we get to see new Celine video from her show in Vegas" We benefited from it...but now that he uses this footage, it's a problem. And yes, he and his mother were commenting...IT WAS THEIR VACATION lmao. I get what you guys are all saying here. I'm just trying to play devil's advocate because there seems to be a double standard about a few things here.

 

 

Singing covers is not illegal though.

 

It is if you are charging people to see you sing those covers. Do you know how many bands and singers that aren't signed but are doing shows make money by singing covers without permission? Technically, if you are doing a show, and you are charging people, you MUST have performance rights to that song. If there's a cover in your set list that you don't have performance rights to, you are NOT allowed to charge people a cover as it would be illegal, JUST because you have ONE cover in your set list. When I sing at bars and clubs, I'm not allowed to charge as I am doing covers. The bar can pay me under the table for my appearance, but I'm not allowed to "sell tickets" or have a "door charge".

Edited October 24, 2013 at 11:11 PM by CelinesDIVO5

[LukeD]

I think it's time for me to make a quick trip to Greece just to your pretty

I can't @ these emoticons! Best forum ever!

[Your_Su_Phu]

I agree with him being a bit too young for the big leagues. His work has been good, but he's still amateur. I don't remember seeing any of his videos labelled as official though, except for a trailer for a piece that he was working on saying it was the official trailer for what the finished product would be. Everything else he's put up has been labelled "UN-OFFICIAL"...

 

That's because he re-labelled the videos after realizing he pissed a bunch of people off by misleading them.

 

I don't think he's trying to take any copyright, and the whole Thierry thing was based off of an email that was supposedly sent to him from Curtis. I have never seen the email, and as far as I know, neither have you. And we probably will never see the email. So, we are in no position to point fingers, call names, or make judgments. Nobody here has any reason to not like him, especially since they don't even know him. Now, when it comes to people like "CelineGreece" therein lies a problem, because this person watermarks EVERYTHING as if it's theirs.

 

It doesn't matter if we'll never see the e-mail. Because we have here a post from Curtis himself claiming that he sent such an email and that therefore Thierry obviously plagiarized him:

 

http://www.celinedio...c/page__st__720

 

Who knows whether such an email exists? But Curtis sure says a lot of suspect things that have been parroted here by his fanclub. There's a pattern of it. He (and his friends) have gone around claiming that his original short film was acclaimed by JK Rowling (I assume he must have met her at some book signing or event). I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I question the details. In that "Hue" clip I linked earlier he misleads viewers into thinking Daniel Radcliffe personally narrated his horror film when he took the audio from a press interview and spliced it over his own footage. There's lots of small little fibs that reek of delusions of grandeur...it's a bit worrying, really

 

No, it wasn't technically his footage, but he also used footage that was already illegally recorded and uploaded to youtube as well from Celine's shows. However, nobody complained when the original uploader showed it to us because "Hey, we get to see new Celine video from her show in Vegas" We benefited from it...but now that he uses this footage, it's a problem.

 

No, it became a problem when he publicly accused someone of plagiarism.

Edited October 24, 2013 at 11:10 PM by Your_Su_Phu

[CelinesDIVO5]

I think it's time for me to make a quick trip to Greece just to your pretty

 

Back off biooooootch...just because we had a lovers quarrel over Curtis Woodside, does not mean you get to move in on my man!!

[dj_a_rock]

And look at how that did at radio...

 

So now we know what will happen once they release Incredible. It needs Miracle to become a hit.

[CelinesDIVO5]

That's because he re-labelled the videos after realizing he pissed a bunch of people off by misleading them.

 

 

 

It doesn't matter if we'll never see the e-mail. Because we have here a post from Curtis himself claiming that he sent such an email and that therefore Thierry obviously plagiarized him:

 

http://www.celinedio...c/page__st__720

 

Who knows whether such an email exists? But Curtis sure says a lot of suspect things that have been parroted here by his fanclub. There's a pattern of it. He (and his friends) have gone around claiming that his original short film was acclaimed by JK Rowling (I assume he must have met her at some book signing or event). I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I question the details. In that "Hue" clip I linked earlier he misleads viewers into thinking Daniel Radcliffe personally narrated his horror film when he took the audio from a press interview and spliced it over his own footage. There's lots of small little fibs that reek of delusion of grandeur...it's a bit worrying, really

 

 

 

No, it became a problem when he accused someone of plagiarism publicly.

 

Welcome to show-biz lol...if Hollywood were a town of truth, we'd have no entertainment.

[LukeD]

we should return to NE-yo and his socks in the sandals...What a beautiful man he is

LOL. He is so classy! The Prince all girls (and a good portion of boys) dream of!

[Del]

I can't @ these emoticons! Best forum ever!

It's because we have the best people ever!

[Cuquito]

Again... I like the song but it has no bridge, it's plane. Edited October 24, 2013 at 11:25 PM by Cuquito

[dj4celine]

Back off biooooootch...just because we had a lovers quarrel over Curtis Woodside, does not mean you get to move in on my man!!

WOAH! We're just 'friends', if you know what I mean

 

 

LOL. He is so classy! The Prince all girls (and a good portion of boys) dream of!

Like Celine said, his lips FTW

Edited October 24, 2013 at 11:34 PM by dj4celine

[marc-02]

 

 

What a nice video, Curtis made!!

 

Can also somebody make a video with only Olympic clips... so we can already have a feel of how its going to be like in case it gets picked.. lol...