"Sans attendre" album - Official Topic

January 22, 2011 at 08:08 AM

No, also from Quebec

Well, they must've been themselves a little bit confused. :giggle:

Maybe the show is an airing of the Julie Snyder special? This is all very confusing lol

Read the statement of the RTL-TVI channel director, it doesn't sound like an airing of the Julie Snyder special. Why would they spread fake info? :hmm:

January 22, 2011 at 08:55 AM

I think they don't want to confirm it YET. that's all

January 22, 2011 at 11:10 AM

weird, I still don't believe she will release 2 albums at the same time, she never did that in the past and i don't know why she would do it now.

Well... couldn't it be because... two albums at the same time would be a symbol for the birth of the twins (couldn't find spoiler tags, so prepare for this to be posted as news soon :laugh: ).

I don't get why Céline must lock herself in Vegas, everything gets so much more of a struggle it seems. She could easily stay put in let's say Florida, live a calm life with her family, release an album or two and go on small promotion trips every now and then. Because that's what most of her fans want, and it would truly be a win win situation.

/fred

Edited January 22, 2011 at 11:11 AM by fred

January 22, 2011 at 11:14 AM

Well Fred she could still do that now, thank god it's only 70 shows now and not 200 :clap: I don't think she'll stay in Vegas, when she doesn't have shows...

She has enough time to be in her Florida house, spend time with her family and IMO still has time to do some appearances here and there... It doesn't have to be a 2 hour special again and again! Just do some smaller shows, with less stress... only perform a song live every now and then... that isn't too much to ask, right? :confused:

January 22, 2011 at 11:31 AM

Well, obviously if they have something to announce, they'll want to do it the closest to the opening of the new show if possible. It's logic. As a comeback, expectation is needed. But two albums at the same time + a new show who is just starting looks just too much :hmm: And like I said before, the biggest fear is that the quality of the albums is diminished. Quantity is not a sign of quality in Céline's releases (the last example found in the double TCWT dvd's, that are her most edited work to date).

However, the quality of the french album seems to be secure, if all the songwritters we have been told are in the album. That doesn't concern me, but the english album?... that's another different story. It looks like a blank book yet to write :ermm:

I don't get why Céline must lock herself in Vegas, everything gets so much more of a struggle it seems. She could easily stay put in let's say Florida, live a calm life with her family, release an album or two and go on small promotion trips every now and then. Because that's what most of her fans want, and it would truly be a win win situation.

/fred

+1

Amen.

Exactly my thoughts since the first day they announced she would be back there :doh:

I only find one answer: $$$$$. René is a business man and he's not idiot. Who knows how much Caesars Palace will have paid them for her comeback -_-

Edited January 22, 2011 at 11:34 AM by Javito

January 22, 2011 at 11:51 AM

Well... couldn't it be because... two albums at the same time would be a symbol for the birth of the twins (couldn't find spoiler tags, so prepare for this to be posted as news soon ).

I don't get why Céline must lock herself in Vegas, everything gets so much more of a struggle it seems. She could easily stay put in let's say Florida, live a calm life with her family, release an album or two and go on small promotion trips every now and then. Because that's what most of her fans want, and it would truly be a win win situation.

/fred

Well this would be absolutely perfect ... but new Vegas show is here ( maybe conctract was very exclusive ... who knows ). I agree what Davey said now it´s only 70 shows so there is some time for diffrent things than Vegas.

January 22, 2011 at 12:06 PM

What I still dont get is why she has kept releasing 2 albums the same year, always a few months between them... We have seen that because of that we have too many new things to buy , and one of the albums always get forgotten soon (usually french ones)... I don't think that strategy is the best...

January 22, 2011 at 02:49 PM

What I still dont get is why she has kept releasing 2 albums the same year, always a few months between them... We have seen that because of that we have too many new things to buy , and one of the albums always get forgotten soon (usually french ones)... I don't think that strategy is the best...

I actually agree, even though I am a fan and of course would want as much as possible. But as Javito pointed out quantity sadly seems to lead to lack of quality.

The ideal in my eyes would be: release an album in one language. Do her thing with that album for at least one year, release a couple of well chosen singles, sing them on shows on which she appear (not sing old hits). Let that album LIVE for a while. Then after that release an album in the other language and do the same thing with that one.

This way the albums wont be neglected, songs that ought to be in concerts set lists will be there and not pushed away by old hits and fight among the few spots for new material with tracks from two albums. One album at a time is enough.

At least that's my perspective.

/fred

January 22, 2011 at 02:56 PM

Why not do what Shakira has done and have one album with both English and French tracks? Maybe that's crazy, and maybe I like the idea because I speak both languages. At least it would get anglophone fans to hear her French work.

January 22, 2011 at 03:13 PM

well I would like one-language album at the time. and I'm sure we won't get 2 so soon

January 22, 2011 at 03:22 PM

No I don't want two album that are completely the same, except for the language... to me it's always kinda cheap that songs appear in both Spanish as English on the same album, like Enrique, Ricky M, etc...

I'd rather have a full focus on an album for a year, then 1/8th focus on 2 albums for only 3 weeks -_-

January 22, 2011 at 03:39 PM

I don't mean the same exact song repeated in English and French, totally different songs. 6 and 6. I think it's realistic and would allow the promotional tour to hit more countries.

Shakira's latest album "Sale el sol" has only 2 songs repeated from Spanish to English, and the rest are either in Spanish or English. It was a chart topper and one of her best to date.

Edited January 22, 2011 at 03:39 PM by Alex_Incognito

January 22, 2011 at 04:27 PM

I don't mean the same exact song repeated in English and French, totally different songs. 6 and 6. I think it's realistic and would allow the promotional tour to hit more countries.

Shakira's latest album "Sale el sol" has only 2 songs repeated from Spanish to English, and the rest are either in Spanish or English. It was a chart topper and one of her best to date.

it's true...it could be an idea..an album in which there are some songs in english and some others in french!!!but I don't think she'll ever do something like this..she'll surely do 2 different albums in the 2 lenguages..but in my opinion the english one won't come out so soon!

January 22, 2011 at 06:15 PM

it's true...it could be an idea..an album in which there are some songs in english and some others in french!!!but I don't think she'll ever do something like this..she'll surely do 2 different albums in the 2 lenguages..but in my opinion the english one won't come out so soon!

Don't forget she actually already did this;

D'eux vs FIY:

PQTME - if that's what it takes

JSP - I don't know

V - fly

(Which also had ABM/SOV)

also:

Partout Je Te Vois - Have A Heart

Et Je T'Aime Encore - Je T'Aime Encore

Tous les Secrets - Let your heart decide

And the Peanut Butter Solution Songs of course

I still think this is enough french vs english. She should focus on one quality album after the other, with enough time to promote good singles ^_^

January 22, 2011 at 06:22 PM

Does Celine really have time to record the vocals considering the rehearsals, promotion and everything else to do for the new show? I don't expect her camp to speak more about the new album until Celine finishes recording in Holy Mimi knows when.

January 22, 2011 at 06:38 PM

This is getting crazy! Between the french new album rumors, the english new album rumor and the COMBINATION of rumors of multiple releases!!!!!! Plus the official statment issued back in May of last year with nothing retracted so far is driving us nuts!

Plus no promo or new on the new show at all! I mean, I know she had two babies and all, and if it's bad timing with being a new mom I get that! But then why have a show 5 months after the birth of twins; never did understand that!

It's all too much. We're in the end of January with just under two months until the new show and no news on anything regarding new material. It' alll seems disorganized.

COME ON RENE!

January 22, 2011 at 07:03 PM

No I don't want two album that are completely the same, except for the language... to me it's always kinda cheap that songs appear in both Spanish as English on the same album, like Enrique, Ricky M, etc...

I'd rather have a full focus on an album for a year, then 1/8th focus on 2 albums for only 3 weeks

Hey! that's not cheap at all! -_- Maybe if they included too many songs in other language, but only 1? That doesn't hurt anyone In fact FIY, LTAL and ANDHC are her 3 bestselling albums, and they include a spanish song. 1 out of 16 is not bad, but a great idea :wub:

January 22, 2011 at 07:06 PM

TCOML has sold more that ANDHC.

January 22, 2011 at 08:29 PM

Don't forget she actually already did this;
D'eux vs FIY:
PQTME - if that's what it takes
JSP - I don't know
V - fly
(Which also had ABM/SOV)

also:
Partout Je Te Vois - Have A Heart
Et Je T'Aime Encore - Je T'Aime Encore
Tous les Secrets - Let your heart decide

And the Peanut Butter Solution Songs of course

I still think this is enough french vs english. She should focus on one quality album after the other, with enough time to promote good singles

Yea, but still, I wouldn't say no to an English version of ESNRQ... ^_^

/fred

January 22, 2011 at 09:07 PM

Hey! that's not cheap at all! Maybe if they included too many songs in other language, but only 1? That doesn't hurt anyone In fact FIY, LTAL and ANDHC are her 3 bestselling albums, and they include a spanish song. 1 out of 16 is not bad, but a great idea

I'm not saying no to a different language, but I do think it's cheap for not looking out for 4 good songs in that particular language, but instead just translate the songs a bit and copy paste the music

TCOML has sold more that ANDHC.

and that is relevant because? :doh:

January 22, 2011 at 09:39 PM

We really need to get some news from Céline's camp! I think she should start with one album (probably French) then, do some promotion. Not every single show that exists, but just a few for a little promotion. I think René is pushing her too hard sometimes. As much as I love René and all, I just wonder sometimes. I think we should really just wait and see.

January 22, 2011 at 09:45 PM

I'm not saying no to a different language, but I do think it's cheap for not looking out for 4 good songs in that particular language, but instead just translate the songs a bit and copy paste the music
and that is relevant because?

Ah you're absolutely right with that :thumbsup2: Only Amar Haciendo El Amor was really original... they could have looked for more original songs instead of translating old ones. But if they had done that for every case, spanish fans wouldn't have today the high note of ABM in spanish, or the incredible version she made for Aún Existe Amor (her best one to me) :wub:

So I think they've just combined things, adaptation (FIY)-original (LTAL)-adaptation (ANDHC). So for her next english album it would be really nice if she recorded another new song in spanish ^_^ (it hurt when for TC she didn't include one for us again :cry: :glare: )

January 23, 2011 at 12:35 AM

Having an English album with French songs is probably not such a good idea. In the US, it's one thing to have English and Spanish (since tons of people speak Spanish in the US) but English and French wouldn't probably be a good option. One French song maybe but not 6. :lookaround:

Edited January 23, 2011 at 12:35 AM by Xpresso

January 23, 2011 at 12:01 PM

Davey, how dare you forget "L'amour existe encore" vs, "Aun existe emor"?! ;P :sofunny:

I think the Shakira-idea is interesting as to get English-speaking audience (who only buys her English albums) to listen to her French material.

But personally I prefer 2 separate albums with different artowrks etc.

January 23, 2011 at 02:47 PM

Also, there are other ways to release songs in other languages if they really want to do so. Beyoncé's "B'Day" album had an EP (Extended Play) made mostly of spanish songs which was dedicated to the latin/spanish market (titled "Irreemplazable"), and it was released separatedly of the album release, so it did not compromise the integrity and cohesion of the new english album. So there are other possibilities to do this if they really wanted.

http://www.caratulas.com/caratulas/B/Beyonce/Beyonce-Irreemplazable_EP-Frontal.jpg

http://www.caratulas.com/caratulas/B/Beyonce/Beyonce-Irreemplazable_EP-Trasera.jpg

In fact, I remember that there was planned a special/deluxe edition for Céline's Taking Chances sometime in 2008, but for one or other reason, it was cancelled. The unreleased songs from the album like There Comes A Time were supposed to be there, as well as some *rumored* spanish versions of some songs, including Eyes On Me (remember the videoclip planned for the song with a spanish "torero" bullfighter??)

January 23, 2011 at 03:47 PM

she recorded EOM in Spanish?!

January 23, 2011 at 04:01 PM

How about if the first official english single should also have a french version (as a bonus track)

January 23, 2011 at 04:34 PM

she recorded EOM in Spanish?!

If I got it right that was just a rumour and the Deluxe edition of TC was cancelled anyway.

January 23, 2011 at 05:46 PM

she recorded EOM in Spanish?!

I don't know. But in the spanish section a contact who leaked a .pdf file for all planned releases in 2010 included a special edition of Taking Chances, and it said that bonus tracks and some spanish versions of the songs were supposed to be included. If they finally recorded them, I have no idea.

January 23, 2011 at 06:20 PM

ok, let's turn back to the topic and wait for sth official to come as there's no point of writing our opinions all the time.

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