autumnskies00 Posted September 23, 2009 at 02:03 AM Posted September 23, 2009 at 02:03 AM I'm wishing and dreaming that I'll see myself in here somewhere...I was at plenty of shows. Lol. But you know who we will see a lot of...Ramona and crew. It will be like where's waldo of the TCWT hah. Anyway, I'm so excited for this I'll be ordering it french. Quote http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b213/autumnskies00/siggy1-2.jpg
JP Posted September 23, 2009 at 02:16 AM Posted September 23, 2009 at 02:16 AM Celine with the Red Heads. OMG, it kills me to see that pictureI was suppose to be there too but i got stucked at the hospital because i went sick in Quebec Quote http://static-illicoweb.videotron.com/illicoweb/static/webtv/images/content/player/TVA_Celine_Dion_Sans_Attendre_Vf_WT_Poster.jpg
Belle Céline Posted September 23, 2009 at 04:17 AM Posted September 23, 2009 at 04:17 AM I wonder if they will do this for each city? The stats and stuff and a photo from it? Oh I hope so I would love to see Columbus in the book!I hope so! I want to see Cleveland. I wish we knew if they were going to release it in the US... Is it only available in paperback? That's how it's listed on amazon.ca.Fanny who was at the international fan meeting said there aren't any photo's from Columbus I think the Ohio shows were two Gerard didnt' photograph because she said he missed like 6 shows and he didn't photograph the Arras, France show either. Quote “There’s nothing I love more than the romance of a night in the theater.”http://i39.tinypic.com/ws0due.png
ashleylovesceline Posted September 23, 2009 at 04:31 AM Posted September 23, 2009 at 04:31 AM I wonder if they will do this for each city? The stats and stuff and a photo from it? Oh I hope so I would love to see Columbus in the book!I hope so! I want to see Cleveland. I wish we knew if they were going to release it in the US... Is it only available in paperback? That's how it's listed on amazon.ca.Fanny who was at the international fan meeting said there aren't any photo's from Columbus I think the Ohio shows were two Gerard didnt' photograph because she said he missed like 6 shows and he didn't photograph the Arras, France show either.Aww, that's disappointing all of the shows won't be included. Especially Cleveland, it was such a great show. And I've seen videos of Columbus, it looked great too. I suppose he couldn't be everywhere... Will there be any photos of fans? I would think they would have to have them sign a release of some sort before they could be published. I hope there are a few forum members in it, what a honor it would be. Quote
Belle Céline Posted September 23, 2009 at 04:47 AM Posted September 23, 2009 at 04:47 AM (edited) I wonder if they will do this for each city? The stats and stuff and a photo from it? Oh I hope so I would love to see Columbus in the book!I hope so! I want to see Cleveland. I wish we knew if they were going to release it in the US... Is it only available in paperback? That's how it's listed on amazon.ca.Fanny who was at the international fan meeting said there aren't any photo's from Columbus I think the Ohio shows were two Gerard didnt' photograph because she said he missed like 6 shows and he didn't photograph the Arras, France show either.Aww, that's disappointing all of the shows won't be included. Especially Cleveland, it was such a great show. And I've seen videos of Columbus, it looked great too. I suppose he couldn't be everywhere... Will there be any photos of fans? I would think they would have to have them sign a release of some sort before they could be published. I hope there are a few forum members in it, what a honor it would be. Well what I would guess is if the fan or fans knew the photo was being taken and they allowed it to be taken then they wouldn't need to give permission for it to be published? I mean obviously if you are posing for the photo or you are watching the person take your photo you are going to know its been taken. Right? Possibly? Now I believe that someone had posted a photo somewhere on the forum or perhaps mentioned that during the shows they did film at and take photo's at that a disclaimer was posted on the big screens that said something along the lines of video and photo will be taken at this show and something along the lines of if you are there then you give your permission for your photo or video of you to be taken. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I do believe that was what I read and or saw on the forum during the tour. I would absolutely die to have my photo in the book or even photo's of the Columbus show wont happen since no photo's were taken at it. Now I do know that the Columbus Dispatch had some BEAUTIFUL photo's from the Colmbus show, I'm not aware of the newspaper in Cleveland taking any photo's at the show but I didn't go to there website. CD had a slideshow with Celine singing TC at the show. I wonder since Gerard was with Celine during the whole tour why he didn't photograph some shows. just a quick addition about the whole fans photo's being in the book. It occured to me that if it was just a shot of like the entire crowd, then would they need permission to use the photo? Because most of the audiences were so big it would be almost impossible from a distance to properly ID anyone in the photos. Especially if its a far off shot. I mean I know the photo's that the Columbus Dispatch took you couldn't really see anyone's faces in the audience that were in the background of the photo's. Edited September 23, 2009 at 04:51 AM by Belle Céline Quote “There’s nothing I love more than the romance of a night in the theater.”http://i39.tinypic.com/ws0due.png
ladylindsey Posted September 23, 2009 at 05:21 AM Posted September 23, 2009 at 05:21 AM (edited) Well if anyone sees a zebra print dress or an orange one it's me rofl! I wanted her to see me! So everyone's ordering off of amazon.fr? amazon.ca still says paperback right? That can't be right... Edited September 23, 2009 at 05:22 AM by ladylindsey Quote
ladylindsey Posted September 23, 2009 at 05:33 AM Posted September 23, 2009 at 05:33 AM Ok someone might have to explain to me how to order off of amazon.fr......lol... Quote
vroni Posted September 23, 2009 at 08:16 AM Posted September 23, 2009 at 08:16 AM send me a pm and I'll tell you how to haha Quote My Taking Chances Tour 22 June München 08 July Genève 10 February Quebec City 12, 14, 15 February Montréal 15, 16 March 2011 LAS VEGAS
Peppercorn1991 Posted September 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM Posted September 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM Thanks for the pics carnt wait to get my hands on this book, can anybody tell me is thuis book in hardback or paperback? kev Quote
one_heart_1_hart Posted September 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM Posted September 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM 1 more day if it's on time!!!! Quote TAKING CHANCES WORLD TOUR8 mei O2 Londen, 13 14 16 mei sportpaleis Antwerpen, 24 mei Palais omnysport Bercy Parijs, 2 juni Arena Amsterdam, 7 juli Arras
ashleylovesceline Posted September 23, 2009 at 10:42 AM Posted September 23, 2009 at 10:42 AM I wonder if they will do this for each city? The stats and stuff and a photo from it? Oh I hope so I would love to see Columbus in the book!I hope so! I want to see Cleveland. I wish we knew if they were going to release it in the US... Is it only available in paperback? That's how it's listed on amazon.ca.Fanny who was at the international fan meeting said there aren't any photo's from Columbus I think the Ohio shows were two Gerard didnt' photograph because she said he missed like 6 shows and he didn't photograph the Arras, France show either.Aww, that's disappointing all of the shows won't be included. Especially Cleveland, it was such a great show. And I've seen videos of Columbus, it looked great too. I suppose he couldn't be everywhere... Will there be any photos of fans? I would think they would have to have them sign a release of some sort before they could be published. I hope there are a few forum members in it, what a honor it would be. Well what I would guess is if the fan or fans knew the photo was being taken and they allowed it to be taken then they wouldn't need to give permission for it to be published? I mean obviously if you are posing for the photo or you are watching the person take your photo you are going to know its been taken. Right? Possibly? Now I believe that someone had posted a photo somewhere on the forum or perhaps mentioned that during the shows they did film at and take photo's at that a disclaimer was posted on the big screens that said something along the lines of video and photo will be taken at this show and something along the lines of if you are there then you give your permission for your photo or video of you to be taken. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I do believe that was what I read and or saw on the forum during the tour. I would absolutely die to have my photo in the book or even photo's of the Columbus show wont happen since no photo's were taken at it. Now I do know that the Columbus Dispatch had some BEAUTIFUL photo's from the Colmbus show, I'm not aware of the newspaper in Cleveland taking any photo's at the show but I didn't go to there website. CD had a slideshow with Celine singing TC at the show. I wonder since Gerard was with Celine during the whole tour why he didn't photograph some shows. just a quick addition about the whole fans photo's being in the book. It occured to me that if it was just a shot of like the entire crowd, then would they need permission to use the photo? Because most of the audiences were so big it would be almost impossible from a distance to properly ID anyone in the photos. Especially if its a far off shot. I mean I know the photo's that the Columbus Dispatch took you couldn't really see anyone's faces in the audience that were in the background of the photo's.I'm not sure what the guidelines are exactly, maybe someone here knows more about it. I'm sure that you don't need permission if you're in a crowd shot, especially if a disclaimer was shown beforehand. But if it's a picture of mainly you and Céline for example, where you are one of the main subjects (and there wasn't a disclaimer shown) - I would think that there would have to be a release form of some sort. There are so many rules when it comes to publishing anything... The only example I have is television... when I went to an Oprah show taping. Every single audience member had to sign a "release" confirming that they could be filmed, and that all footage filmed of them would be property of Harpo Studios FOREVER. Literally, it was in all caps! Then when they filmed individuals... myself included, we had to sign yet another longer release form so they could legally use it. I'll be sad if Cleveland isn't included, since it was the only show I was able to go to on the tour. But I suppose I have more than enough pictures on my own, lol. Quote
autumnskies00 Posted September 23, 2009 at 03:24 PM Posted September 23, 2009 at 03:24 PM I think if you are at a public event, they are legally allowed to take photos of you. I might be wrong, but I'm sure crowd shots are allowed. Is that photo of the red heads in the book? Maybe they know. Quote http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b213/autumnskies00/siggy1-2.jpg
drove all night Posted September 23, 2009 at 04:44 PM Posted September 23, 2009 at 04:44 PM this book release, is just screaming for an acompaning DVD It will be, in 5 years when the TCWT CD is repackaged with the book Quote
Belle Céline Posted September 23, 2009 at 04:48 PM Posted September 23, 2009 at 04:48 PM I wonder if they will do this for each city? The stats and stuff and a photo from it? Oh I hope so I would love to see Columbus in the book!I hope so! I want to see Cleveland. I wish we knew if they were going to release it in the US... Is it only available in paperback? That's how it's listed on amazon.ca.Fanny who was at the international fan meeting said there aren't any photo's from Columbus I think the Ohio shows were two Gerard didnt' photograph because she said he missed like 6 shows and he didn't photograph the Arras, France show either.Aww, that's disappointing all of the shows won't be included. Especially Cleveland, it was such a great show. And I've seen videos of Columbus, it looked great too. I suppose he couldn't be everywhere... Will there be any photos of fans? I would think they would have to have them sign a release of some sort before they could be published. I hope there are a few forum members in it, what a honor it would be. Well what I would guess is if the fan or fans knew the photo was being taken and they allowed it to be taken then they wouldn't need to give permission for it to be published? I mean obviously if you are posing for the photo or you are watching the person take your photo you are going to know its been taken. Right? Possibly? Now I believe that someone had posted a photo somewhere on the forum or perhaps mentioned that during the shows they did film at and take photo's at that a disclaimer was posted on the big screens that said something along the lines of video and photo will be taken at this show and something along the lines of if you are there then you give your permission for your photo or video of you to be taken. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I do believe that was what I read and or saw on the forum during the tour. I would absolutely die to have my photo in the book or even photo's of the Columbus show wont happen since no photo's were taken at it. Now I do know that the Columbus Dispatch had some BEAUTIFUL photo's from the Colmbus show, I'm not aware of the newspaper in Cleveland taking any photo's at the show but I didn't go to there website. CD had a slideshow with Celine singing TC at the show. I wonder since Gerard was with Celine during the whole tour why he didn't photograph some shows. just a quick addition about the whole fans photo's being in the book. It occured to me that if it was just a shot of like the entire crowd, then would they need permission to use the photo? Because most of the audiences were so big it would be almost impossible from a distance to properly ID anyone in the photos. Especially if its a far off shot. I mean I know the photo's that the Columbus Dispatch took you couldn't really see anyone's faces in the audience that were in the background of the photo's.I'm not sure what the guidelines are exactly, maybe someone here knows more about it. I'm sure that you don't need permission if you're in a crowd shot, especially if a disclaimer was shown beforehand. But if it's a picture of mainly you and Céline for example, where you are one of the main subjects (and there wasn't a disclaimer shown) - I would think that there would have to be a release form of some sort. There are so many rules when it comes to publishing anything... The only example I have is television... when I went to an Oprah show taping. Every single audience member had to sign a "release" confirming that they could be filmed, and that all footage filmed of them would be property of Harpo Studios FOREVER. Literally, it was in all caps! Then when they filmed individuals... myself included, we had to sign yet another longer release form so they could legally use it. I'll be sad if Cleveland isn't included, since it was the only show I was able to go to on the tour. But I suppose I have more than enough pictures on my own, lol. Well I mean there would have been way to many people at any of the given concerts to have them ALL sign a release form. Oprah's audience is a much much smaller scale so it would have been easier to do. So I'm assuming unless there was a disclaimer Gerard didn't take an indvidual photo of anyone probably just crowd shots. If he did take a photo of say someone and Celine then that person would probably give their permission nonverbally by allowing the photo to be taken with their knowledge. Or vice versa if it was just of them and they saw him take the photo. I mean that seems logical to me. I could be completely wrong though. Maybe someone else will know? I think if you are at a public event, they are legally allowed to take photos of you. I might be wrong, but I'm sure crowd shots are allowed. Is that photo of the red heads in the book? Maybe they know. Thats what I'm thinking too. Yes the photo is in the book I believe one of the admins posted it in this topic a page or so back. Quote “There’s nothing I love more than the romance of a night in the theater.”http://i39.tinypic.com/ws0due.png
one_heart_1_hart Posted September 23, 2009 at 05:09 PM Posted September 23, 2009 at 05:09 PM That is not correct, it is not allowed to photgraph people wether they are in public places or not.it is allowed if you are not directly photographed and the meaning of the picture is not you.So you can take a photograph of the park where people are walking but you cannot take a photograph of the people in the park.It's a difficult rule that no one cares or if your wife doesn't know you were in the park So maybe there is a rule about concerts or mass group. Quote TAKING CHANCES WORLD TOUR8 mei O2 Londen, 13 14 16 mei sportpaleis Antwerpen, 24 mei Palais omnysport Bercy Parijs, 2 juni Arena Amsterdam, 7 juli Arras
maxceline Posted September 23, 2009 at 05:35 PM Posted September 23, 2009 at 05:35 PM We cannot wait no more we want the book! Quote -11th/12th November 2004 Las Vegas Caesar's Palace!! First ROW!!-6th May 2008 London O2 Arena,-19th & 20th May 2008 Paris Bercy-2nd June 2008 Amsterdam Arena-14th June 2008 Frankfurt Commerzbank-3rd July 2008 Milan Datch Forum-5th July 2008 Nice Stade Nikaia
autumnskies00 Posted September 23, 2009 at 07:52 PM Posted September 23, 2009 at 07:52 PM That is not correct, it is not allowed to photgraph people wether they are in public places or not.it is allowed if you are not directly photographed and the meaning of the picture is not you.So you can take a photograph of the park where people are walking but you cannot take a photograph of the people in the park.It's a difficult rule that no one cares or if your wife doesn't know you were in the park So maybe there is a rule about concerts or mass group. So techinically if the photo were of Celine and some fans, since Celine is the main part of the photo, that would be allowed? Quote http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b213/autumnskies00/siggy1-2.jpg
Belle Céline Posted September 23, 2009 at 09:17 PM Posted September 23, 2009 at 09:17 PM That is not correct, it is not allowed to photgraph people wether they are in public places or not.it is allowed if you are not directly photographed and the meaning of the picture is not you.So you can take a photograph of the park where people are walking but you cannot take a photograph of the people in the park.It's a difficult rule that no one cares or if your wife doesn't know you were in the park So maybe there is a rule about concerts or mass group. So techinically if the photo were of Celine and some fans, since Celine is the main part of the photo, that would be allowed?I'm not sure, I don't quiet understand what they mean... Quote “There’s nothing I love more than the romance of a night in the theater.”http://i39.tinypic.com/ws0due.png
Davey84 Posted September 23, 2009 at 09:20 PM Posted September 23, 2009 at 09:20 PM will it be released in Belgium (brussels) too, before this weekend??!! Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/daveyh84/incognito198701_zpsaaootxh1.jpgRick, ik hou van jou voor altijd!A New Day... has come 28/29 April & 2/3 May 07Antwerpen 13 et 14 mai,Paris 24 et 25 mai, Amsterdam 2 juinet Arras 7 juillet Chances Taken!!!How Do You Keep The Music Playing? - Celine Opening Night March 15th, March 16th
ladylindsey Posted September 23, 2009 at 09:27 PM Posted September 23, 2009 at 09:27 PM Can someone from the USA who ordered from amazon.fr tell me how much shipping was? I can't understand anything lol. I gave myself a gold star for doing the euro to dollar conversion rofl. Quote
Thomas Posted September 23, 2009 at 10:23 PM Posted September 23, 2009 at 10:23 PM That is not correct, it is not allowed to photgraph people wether they are in public places or not.That is incorrect in a lot of places, such as the US and UK and probably most EU nations aswell. A stadium or an arena is a public venue and it is completely legal to photograph anyone inside it. The law in the United States of America is pretty simple. You are allowed to photograph anything with the following exceptions: • Certain military installations or operations. • People who have a reasonable expectation of privacy. That is, people who are some place that's not easily visible to the general public, e.g., if you shoot through someone's window with a telephoto lens. That's it. You can shoot pictures of children; your rights don't change because of their age or where they are, as long as they're visible from a place that's open to the public. (So no sneaking into schools or climbing fences.) Video taping has some more gray areas because of copyright issues, but in general the same rules apply. If anyone can see it, you can shoot it. And yes, you can shoot on private property if it's open to the public. That includes malls, retails stores, Starbucks, banks, and office-building lobbies. If you're asked to stop and refuse, you run the risk of being charged with trespassing, but your pictures are yours. No one can legally take your camera or your memory card without a court order. You can also shoot in subways and at airports. Check your local laws about the subway, but in New York, Washington, and San Francisco it's perfectly legal. Airport security is regulated by the Transportation Security Administration, and it's quite clear: Photography is A-OK at any commercial airport in the U.S. as long as you're in an area open to the public. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Quote
Thomas Posted September 23, 2009 at 11:00 PM Posted September 23, 2009 at 11:00 PM (edited) I have spoken with my photographer friend Mel, who is obviously clued up on these kind of issues as it's her job. In general in the US, it is legal to photograph fans at a concert because they are in a public venue and anyone in a public venue can be photographed no matter what age providing no privacy has been invaded. It is also legal to publish these photos in a book that will sold commercially because the photos are used to showcase the Taking Chances tour, not the specific fans who attended. For instance, Gerard took my photo before the show at the first Manchester date but if this photo makes it into the book it would be legal because they're not saying "here's a picture of Thomas at a concert" they're saying "fan reactions before the concert" and using my photo as the example. So it's the event they photographed, not the person. Also, since they aren't showing me in a negative light and since I was in a public place they have the rights to publish it. It would be different if Gerard photoshopped me having a huge nose or wrote a nasty caption underneath my photo, because you can't show someone in a negative false light. But for our case with this book, it's fine. Edited September 23, 2009 at 11:02 PM by Thomas Quote
Belle Céline Posted September 23, 2009 at 11:48 PM Posted September 23, 2009 at 11:48 PM That is not correct, it is not allowed to photgraph people wether they are in public places or not.That is incorrect in a lot of places, such as the US and UK and probably most EU nations aswell. A stadium or an arena is a public venue and it is completely legal to photograph anyone inside it. The law in the United States of America is pretty simple. You are allowed to photograph anything with the following exceptions: • Certain military installations or operations. • People who have a reasonable expectation of privacy. That is, people who are some place that's not easily visible to the general public, e.g., if you shoot through someone's window with a telephoto lens. That's it. You can shoot pictures of children; your rights don't change because of their age or where they are, as long as they're visible from a place that's open to the public. (So no sneaking into schools or climbing fences.) Video taping has some more gray areas because of copyright issues, but in general the same rules apply. If anyone can see it, you can shoot it. And yes, you can shoot on private property if it's open to the public. That includes malls, retails stores, Starbucks, banks, and office-building lobbies. If you're asked to stop and refuse, you run the risk of being charged with trespassing, but your pictures are yours. No one can legally take your camera or your memory card without a court order. You can also shoot in subways and at airports. Check your local laws about the subway, but in New York, Washington, and San Francisco it's perfectly legal. Airport security is regulated by the Transportation Security Administration, and it's quite clear: Photography is A-OK at any commercial airport in the U.S. as long as you're in an area open to the public. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. I have spoken with my photographer friend Mel, who is obviously clued up on these kind of issues as it's her job. In general in the US, it is legal to photograph fans at a concert because they are in a public venue and anyone in a public venue can be photographed no matter what age providing no privacy has been invaded. It is also legal to publish these photos in a book that will sold commercially because the photos are used to showcase the Taking Chances tour, not the specific fans who attended. For instance, Gerard took my photo before the show at the first Manchester date but if this photo makes it into the book it would be legal because they're not saying "here's a picture of Thomas at a concert" they're saying "fan reactions before the concert" and using my photo as the example. So it's the event they photographed, not the person. Also, since they aren't showing me in a negative light and since I was in a public place they have the rights to publish it. It would be different if Gerard photoshopped me having a huge nose or wrote a nasty caption underneath my photo, because you can't show someone in a negative false light. But for our case with this book, it's fine. Ah thank you so much Thomas for clearing this up. I didn't know for sure what was legal and what wasn't. So thanks, it clears up a lot of questions I had. This info would have been great had I known it back in high school. I once did a project in photography class and the photo's were made into collages and were hung up around the school, but mine was taken down. When I ask why it was, I was told because the photo's were of a child they weren't allowed to put them up because I didn't have the parents permission to use the photo's. So if I understand the one about children right my photo was fine being up. I did have the parents permission. I took the photo's of my friends daughter at her ballet recital. My friend saw me take the photo's because she was with her daughter when I took them and my friend saw the photo's after I took them. The photo's were in a public place as well. Quote “There’s nothing I love more than the romance of a night in the theater.”http://i39.tinypic.com/ws0due.png
celinefan5 Posted September 24, 2009 at 11:03 AM Posted September 24, 2009 at 11:03 AM Does anyone have the book yet? Quote
mirage Posted September 24, 2009 at 11:23 AM Posted September 24, 2009 at 11:23 AM some in the french section already have...cant wait to see some pictures from it Quote
Frida Posted September 24, 2009 at 11:34 AM Posted September 24, 2009 at 11:34 AM Just ordered mine! Quote http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p234/celinedion_56/tcc2copy3_zps08f18352.pnghttp://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p234/celinedion_56/tccgallery-1.png
Rem Posted September 24, 2009 at 11:50 AM Posted September 24, 2009 at 11:50 AM I'm in the book Quote
Bellamy Posted September 24, 2009 at 12:01 PM Posted September 24, 2009 at 12:01 PM Please don't post any scan of the photos from the book on forum. Quote Please support the forum by ordering everything through our special Amazon.com link Click here. Thank you!
mirage Posted September 24, 2009 at 12:21 PM Posted September 24, 2009 at 12:21 PM (edited) Please don't post any scan of the photos from the book on forum. just a tiny little questionwhen the TC Tourbook was released we also got some scans of it, and also a lot of previews from Autour Du Monde, so why can't we have some scans of it now? the previews are in a better quality then the scans we would get dont ya think? Edited September 24, 2009 at 12:23 PM by mirage Quote
celinefan5 Posted September 24, 2009 at 12:56 PM Posted September 24, 2009 at 12:56 PM Does anyone know if the book is sold in Geneva? Quote
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