VinnyT. Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:13 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:13 PM maybe you have to say, this time she doesnt have regis and kelly etc etcBTW that's not the end , PINK with a smash HIT will be #3 with 160-170k ,that's disappointing to me Quote For Exclusive News "Like Us" on Facebook http://i44.tinypic.com/vfjwad.jpg click on the banner
Ronny83 Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:15 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:15 PM I have seen people do this with every album release of Celine's. Hits Daily Double is almost always usually spot on. I remember when the projected Taking Chances's numbers people said it would sell more, same with Miracle and now with My Love. It will sell around 50k just as they reported. Miracle sold 100k with almost a full hour of promo on Oprah while My Love was only mentioned like twice (very briefly). There will be no Oprah effect on this album, wait and see. lolMiracle didn't have a full hour of promo on Oprah. Hits Daily Double did the same with Miracle: at first they said it would sell 50k, then they edited the news claiming they didn't take into consideration the Oprah promotion. Quote The Celine Dion Italian fanbase - CelineDionItalia.com
William2005 Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:19 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:19 PM *sigh* Well I'll just sit by and watch people hope for more than 50k as projected and be disappointed when they get the official numbers. Honestly with all of the tons of promotion for Taking Chances, it being released during the Holiday period and only selling 214,000 copies and now this I can't see her next full brand new studio album selling more than 130k opening week. Quote
VinnyT. Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:22 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:22 PM well if this happened to PINK with a smash HIT why not to Celine with 0 hit single Quote For Exclusive News "Like Us" on Facebook http://i44.tinypic.com/vfjwad.jpg click on the banner
William2005 Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:26 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:26 PM (edited) well if this happened to PINK with a smash HIT why not to Celine with 0 hit single Well this is P!nk's second biggest opening. Mizzunderstood sold 220k opening week 7 years ago and with the huge hit Get The Party Started. Ergo she was never a big opener. Not only that but Celine is a MUCH bigger name than P!nk, the two are hardly comparable. Edited October 29, 2008 at 07:26 PM by William2005 Quote
VinnyT. Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:30 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:30 PM but celine has no hit single since when? Quote For Exclusive News "Like Us" on Facebook http://i44.tinypic.com/vfjwad.jpg click on the banner
William2005 Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:34 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:34 PM but celine has no hit single since when? God, it's been AGES. I'm not pointing to say Pink's destroyed Celine or anything, I'm saying Celine's sales in general are less than great. And AGAIN you can't compare the two, they are completely different. Also Pink never had huge opening week sales even when she had huge hits so I don't really know what your getting at there. lol Quote
Ted Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:38 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:38 PM (edited) well if this happened to PINK with a smash HIT why not to Celine with 0 hit single Well this is P!nk's second biggest opening. Mizzunderstood sold 220k opening week 7 years ago and with the huge hit Get The Party Started. Ergo she was never a big opener. Not only that but Celine is a MUCH bigger name than P!nk, the two are hardly comparable. The "Best Of" or the "Greatest Hits" hardly sell well. Edited October 29, 2008 at 07:39 PM by Ted Quote http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/tedxyz/Untitled-TrueColor-02.jpg
VinnyT. Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:39 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:39 PM and you cant compare a GH album with a new album(Pink's) then in Usa, ATW is still so huge so maybe people just dont care about this new release. Quote For Exclusive News "Like Us" on Facebook http://i44.tinypic.com/vfjwad.jpg click on the banner
William2005 Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:43 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:43 PM well if this happened to PINK with a smash HIT why not to Celine with 0 hit single Well this is P!nk's second biggest opening. Mizzunderstood sold 220k opening week 7 years ago and with the huge hit Get The Party Started. Ergo she was never a big opener. Not only that but Celine is a MUCH bigger name than P!nk, the two are hardly comparable. The "Best Of" or the "Greatest Hits" hardly sell well. Mariah Carey "Greatest Hits" sold 1,015,000 copies in the US.Britney Spears "Greatest Hits" sold 1,800,000 copies in the US.Shania Twain's "Greatest Hits" sold 3,540,000 copies in the US.Faith Hill's "The Hits" opened with 70,000 copies in the US. And something tells me Christina's new Greatest Hits will sell well too. Need I continue? Quote
William2005 Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:45 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:45 PM and you cant compare a GH album with a new album(Pink's) then in Usa, ATW is still so huge so maybe people just dont care about this new release. All The Way was an album half filled with new Material, hardly a complete collection of her Greatest Hits. Quote
pol Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:51 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:51 PM I bought my copy today It's 2CD European edition.Now I'm on the 1st track and "My Heart Will Go On" sounds are streaming out of my speakers. Quote http://www.celinedion.com/celinedion/english/images/tourheader.gifhttp://img212.imageshack.us/img212/2794/25241103520d133287fabux1.jpg MY TOUR DATESJune 12th, 2008 - Berlin, GermanyJune 28th, 2008 - Cracow, Poland
VinnyT. Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:52 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:52 PM Mariah Carey "Greatest Hits" sold 1,015,000 copies in the US.Britney Spears "Greatest Hits" sold 1,800,000 copies in the US.Shania Twain's "Greatest Hits" sold 3,540,000 copies in the US.Faith Hill's "The Hits" opened with 70,000 copies in the US. And something tells me Christina's new Greatest Hits will sell well too. Need I continue? Gosh! it's just the debut! and then you are talking about Albums which came out few years ago.Christina has a strong new single and she is young and hot, then that's her first GH, even if you cant believefor many ATW is her official GH. Plus faith hill new xmas album flopped big time...you dont need to continue... BTW as u can see she did just 1 show to promote this CD for now..so they dont care why we should care 40-50-100 it doesnt change anything Maybe you didnt read this topic often but I was among the ones who said 50k debut Quote For Exclusive News "Like Us" on Facebook http://i44.tinypic.com/vfjwad.jpg click on the banner
Ted Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:52 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:52 PM well if this happened to PINK with a smash HIT why not to Celine with 0 hit single Well this is P!nk's second biggest opening. Mizzunderstood sold 220k opening week 7 years ago and with the huge hit Get The Party Started. Ergo she was never a big opener. Not only that but Celine is a MUCH bigger name than P!nk, the two are hardly comparable. The "Best Of" or the "Greatest Hits" hardly sell well. Mariah Carey "Greatest Hits" sold 1,015,000 copies in the US.Britney Spears "Greatest Hits" sold 1,800,000 copies in the US.Shania Twain's "Greatest Hits" sold 3,540,000 copies in the US.Faith Hill's "The Hits" opened with 70,000 copies in the US. And something tells me Christina's new Greatest Hits will sell well too. Need I continue? That was 7, 8, & 9years ago. This is now! Quote http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/tedxyz/Untitled-TrueColor-02.jpg
Kyle_Jared Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:56 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:56 PM Three MAJOR points to consider guys: If the album sells 50K first week, it's not surprising.OR bad.......Look at Sarah McLaughlin's latest "Best of"---it only sold around 35k its first week just a few weeks ago!! And she's very relevant on HOT AC ......PLUS it's her first 'real' best of album, many buyers who already have "All the way..." have the majority of the songs on "Best of" except for maybe 4 or 5 tracks! Secondly, With "Taking Chances", Celine appeared on Oprah on MONDAY so when first day sales came for Tuesday, it was dead on.....Promo for the "essential" (Oprah) aired on Tuesday.....the impact that will have will be Wed-Saturday, so we may yet see a higher return on that promo....I'm still projecting 70k+ opening week. Third, it's holiday season.........and album sales will begin to increase starting very very shortly...."Best ofs'' generally see a fairly consistent run over late nov/december. Quote
Céline's Blues Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:58 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:58 PM OMG what a flop. Quote http://i.imgur.com/dmreJ.jpg
VinnyT. Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:59 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 07:59 PM Three MAJOR points to consider guys: If the album sells 50K first week, it's not surprising.OR bad.......Look at Sarah McLaughlin's latest "Best of"---it only sold around 35k its first week just a few weeks ago!! And she's very relevant on HOT AC ......PLUS it's her first 'real' best of album, many buyers who already have "All the way..." have the majority of the songs on "Best of" except for maybe 4 or 5 tracks! Secondly, With "Taking Chances", Celine appeared on Oprah on MONDAY so when first day sales came for Tuesday, it was dead on.....Promo for the "essential" (Oprah) aired on Tuesday.....the impact that will have will be Wed-Saturday, so we may yet see a higher return on that promo....I'm still projecting 70k+ opening week. Third, it's holiday season.........and album sales will begin to increase starting very very shortly...."Best ofs'' generally see a fairly consistent run over late nov/december.thatìs right, before oprah's appearance on amazon.com the album was around 40 after oprah around 6.00 / 7.00 PM NY time the album entered top 10! so the 1st one day sale was almost over Quote For Exclusive News "Like Us" on Facebook http://i44.tinypic.com/vfjwad.jpg click on the banner
Céline's Blues Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:00 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:00 PM Stop making excuses for the floppina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote http://i.imgur.com/dmreJ.jpg
VinnyT. Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:03 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:03 PM Stop making excuses for the floppina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh: too bad she cant be #1 Quote For Exclusive News "Like Us" on Facebook http://i44.tinypic.com/vfjwad.jpg click on the banner
Cambroneroj Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:09 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:09 PM Stop making excuses for the floppina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh: too bad she cant be #1 To me she is #1 always will be. Quote
William2005 Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:10 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:10 PM well if this happened to PINK with a smash HIT why not to Celine with 0 hit single Well this is P!nk's second biggest opening. Mizzunderstood sold 220k opening week 7 years ago and with the huge hit Get The Party Started. Ergo she was never a big opener. Not only that but Celine is a MUCH bigger name than P!nk, the two are hardly comparable. The "Best Of" or the "Greatest Hits" hardly sell well. Mariah Carey "Greatest Hits" sold 1,015,000 copies in the US.Britney Spears "Greatest Hits" sold 1,800,000 copies in the US.Shania Twain's "Greatest Hits" sold 3,540,000 copies in the US.Faith Hill's "The Hits" opened with 70,000 copies in the US. And something tells me Christina's new Greatest Hits will sell well too. Need I continue? That was 7, 8, & 9years ago. This is now! Um Faith's was released at the end of 2007, Shania's was released in Nov of 04 and Britney's was released in 2004 also. The only one which was released 7 years (not 8 or 9) ago was Mariah's. LMAO Quote
VinnyT. Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:11 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:11 PM to me as well, i wish to many to flop as celine "flopped" in the last months/years Quote For Exclusive News "Like Us" on Facebook http://i44.tinypic.com/vfjwad.jpg click on the banner
William2005 Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:12 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:12 PM (edited) Well I'm going to hold that figure on those of you who say it will sell 70+ thousand when next week comes around and it sells 50 thousand. Also as a quick point I never said this album wouldn't sell well in the end, I just said it had a less than impressive opening week. (which it did, fact) Edited October 29, 2008 at 08:13 PM by William2005 Quote
VinnyT. Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:18 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:18 PM Um Faith's was released at the end of 2007yes and it has sold around 390k World wide till now latest Rascall Flatts GH debuted with 500k and sold more than 2 M this one will debut with 90k Yes 40-50k it's ok, we will see how it will sell in the next months..I think 1 M world wide is Ok for sony, if you take in consideration that many NEW ALBUMS from great artists didnt sell 2 M world wide, so... Quote For Exclusive News "Like Us" on Facebook http://i44.tinypic.com/vfjwad.jpg click on the banner
Davey84 Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:18 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:18 PM just a thought; do you think they will sell this cd at the concerts with the other merchandise, and will it then count for the official charts? Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/daveyh84/incognito198701_zpsaaootxh1.jpgRick, ik hou van jou voor altijd!A New Day... has come 28/29 April & 2/3 May 07Antwerpen 13 et 14 mai,Paris 24 et 25 mai, Amsterdam 2 juinet Arras 7 juillet Chances Taken!!!How Do You Keep The Music Playing? - Celine Opening Night March 15th, March 16th
celine.mydream Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:21 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:21 PM just a thought; do you think they will sell this cd at the concerts with the other merchandise, and will it then count for the official charts? probably Quote
VinnyT. Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:21 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:21 PM just a thought; do you think they will sell this cd at the concerts with the other merchandise, and will it then count for the official charts? they didnt do with TC..or they did? Quote For Exclusive News "Like Us" on Facebook http://i44.tinypic.com/vfjwad.jpg click on the banner
Davey84 Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:23 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:23 PM well no... (stupid! but no) in Vegas they sold AND...LIL after the show... and since most songs on ML are sang on the tour... it might be a good idea Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/daveyh84/incognito198701_zpsaaootxh1.jpgRick, ik hou van jou voor altijd!A New Day... has come 28/29 April & 2/3 May 07Antwerpen 13 et 14 mai,Paris 24 et 25 mai, Amsterdam 2 juinet Arras 7 juillet Chances Taken!!!How Do You Keep The Music Playing? - Celine Opening Night March 15th, March 16th
celinesafan Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:24 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:24 PM (edited) LOL! No read careful, it's about the song's position on the ALBUM itself.... nothing to do with charts.. haha, OOPS! Sometimes I just see what I want to see lol. Hopefully it's Top 10, if not Top 5. I'm looking forward to having all her hits on one album ... Edited October 29, 2008 at 08:25 PM by celinesafan Quote http://www.petrodevilliers.co.za/images/petrocdpromo.jpg
William2005 Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:28 PM Posted October 29, 2008 at 08:28 PM Um Faith's was released at the end of 2007yes and it has sold around 390k World wide till now Yes, but it opened with more than this one. (which was my point) latest Rascall Flatts GH debuted with 500k and sold more than 2 M HUH?! Rascal Flatts haven't released a Greatest Hits cd until yesterday:http://www.amazon.com/Greatest-Hits-1-Rasc...1889&sr=8-2 this one will debut with 90k I still say this will sell 50k as predicted and if its numbers do go up it will be more around 55-60, not 90k. Yes 40-50k it's ok, we will see how it will sell in the next months..I think 1 M world wide is Ok for sony, if you take in consideration that many NEW ALBUMS from great artists didnt sell 2 M world wide, so... I would hardly find 1 million WW impressive, lol. I hope it goes on to sell more than that. Again, I never said it wouldn't sell well in the end, I said its first week sales were weak (no matter how you spin it). It's like anytime a post is anything but "WOW, CONGRATS CELINE, AMAZING, WOO-HOO!" people get so defensive. Quote
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