"These Are Special Times" album - Official Topic

[Shaun]

Have you seen their latest social media post? I despair. I honestly do.

[Unison Addict]

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Although it hurts so much to say this but since there is no team left, it is only Celine you can blame for this situation

 

I don’t think she’s one to blame directly. She always said she never cared about charts and stuff and she’s not even manage her own social media. I think her social media team do. They can just post something related to her Xmas album or song rather than just random photos or maybe doing a kind of challenge like the It’s All Coming Back to Me Now trend few years ago that caused the song to go viral. There are many things they can do to get These Are Special Times / the songs from it viral but they are wasting the chance and decided to post random photos instead.

Edited December 16, 2025 at 02:20 AM by Unison Addict

[LukeD]

'Merry Christmas' was just certified 10xPlatinum in the U.S.

'All I Want For Christmas Is Your' was just certified 18xPlatinum in the U.S. This is 18m certified sales from one market - this number is higher than the global certified sales of MHWGO.

 

This is not us being obsessed with Mariah. We simply give credit where credit is due. Mariah and her team have taken good care of her catalogue, there is no denying that.

 

Team Celine, take lessons!

[comingback]

When was the last certification by Sony for Celine's albums?

Why didn't they do it last year, when Celine was big in the media?

[isurrender]

If this is not obsession with Mariah ( which I am not convinced but let's give it the benefit of the doubt), this is non sense.

 

You are literally comparing 2 opposite ends of the success scale. Of course, it is bringing more frustration. You are not even aiming for a minor hit, this is not a fair shot.

 

Mariah is a Xmas phenomenon and Céline is...nowhere. There are probably 90% of artists between Céline and Mariah situation.

 

We are not in Kelly Clarkson's situation and we would be saying "we have a really good succes, her team should push it even more to challenge AIWFCIY".

 

Gosh, randomly, Bryan Adams and Kate Perry have a Xmas song pulling more streams than any of Céline's Xmas song. Who the f*** knew they even had a Xmas song?

 

It looks like we're about to close this board as nothing is happening and there is clearly 0 intention to keep Céline's work alive.

[comingback]

Why are they posting all those TC era pics?

Why don't they upload a Christmas video (Happy Xmas)?

[comingback]

https://open.spotify...F1DX0Yxoavh5qJV

 

Ave Maria #56

 

Kelly Clarkson is now No1 on the list.

Celine is still at the bottom.

[PuraVida]

Why are they posting all those TC era pics?

Why don't they upload a Christmas video (Happy Xmas)?

 

her team are getting coal for christmas, on the naughty list they go!

[rodrigofreitas]

When was the last certification by Sony for Celine's albums?

Why didn't they do it last year, when Celine was big in the media?

 

In RIAA

 

Albums

These Are Special Times November 3, 2022 6x Platinum

Let's Talk About Love November 3, 2022 11x Platinum

Falling Into You March 3, 2021 12x Platinum

Taking Chances February 28, 2008 1x Platinum

All The Way...A Decade of Song December 6, 2005 7x Platinum

Miracle January 14, 2005 1x Platinum

New Day Live in Las Vegas September 21, 2004 Gold

One Heart April 23, 2003 2x Platinum

A New Day Has Come January 30, 2003 3x Platinum

THE COLLECTOR'S SERIES, VOLUME ONE January 30, 2001 Gold

The Colour of My Love November 5, 1999 6x Platinum

Unison June 18, 1997 1x Platinum

Celine Dion July 3, 1996 2x Platinum

 

Singles

My Heart Will Go On November 3, 2022 4x Platinum

IT'S ALL COMING BACK TO ME NOW March 3, 2021 2x Platinum

BECAUSE YOU LOVED ME March 3, 2021 2x Platinum

I'M YOUR ANGEL December 9, 1998 1x Platinum

ALL BY MYSELF May 7, 1997 Gold

THE POWER OF LOVE April 8, 1994 1x Platinum

BEAUTY AND THE BEAST May 28, 1992 Gold

Edited December 16, 2025 at 11:32 AM by rodrigofreitas

[rodrigofreitas]

RIAA CERTIFICATIONS WITH CELINE SONGS

 

Titanic (Soundtrack) Diamond 11x Platinum 11,000,000

(My Heart Will Go On)

 

Back To Titanic (Soundtrack) 1x Platinum 1,000,000

(My Heart Will Go On)

 

Beauty and the Beast (album) Gold 500,000

(Beauty and the Beast)

 

Beauty and the Beast (album) 2017 - Gold 500,000

(How Does a Moment Last Forever)

 

One Night Only (Bee Gees) 1x Platinum - 1,000,000

(Immortality)

 

Number Ones (Bee Gees) Gold 500,000

(Immortality)

 

The Record (Bee Gees) 1x Platinum 1,000,000

(Immortality)

 

Sogno (Andrea Bocelli) 3x Platinum 3,000,000

(The prayer)

 

The Best of Andrea Bocelli - VIVERE 1x Platinum 1,000,000

(The Prayer)

 

Concerto One Night (live) (Andrea Bocelli) Gold 500,000

The Prayer

 

R. (R. Kelly) 8x Platinum 8,000,000

(I'm Your Angel)

 

The R. IN R&B Collection, vol 1 (R. Kelly) 1x Platinum 1,000,000

(I'm Your Angel)

 

Higher Ground (Barbra Streisand) 3x Platinum 3,000,000

(The Reason)

 

The Essential Barbra Streisand 1x Platinum 1,000,000

(The Reason)

 

Duets (Barbra Streisand) Gold 500,000

(The Reason)

 

Timeless: Live in Concert (Barbra Streisand) 1x Platinum 1,000,000

(The Reason)

 

Ancora (Il Divo) Gold 500,000

(I Belive in You (Je crois en toi)

 

VH1 DIVAS LIVE Gold 500,000

(River Deep/The Reason/My Heart Will Go On)

 

Sleeples in Seattle (Soundtrack) 4x Platinum 4,000,000

(Because You Loved Me)

 

Duets An American Classic (Tony Bennet) 2x Platinum 2,000,000

(If I Ruled the World)

 

God Bless America (Various) Gold 500,000

(God Bless America)

 

America: A Tribute to Heroes (Various) Gold 500,000

 

Touched By And Angel (Soundtrack) 1x Platinum 1,000,000

(Love Can Move Mounthains)

 

Voices that care Gold 500,000

 

1995 Grammy Nominees Gold 500,000

(The Power of Love)

 

1997 Grammy Nominees Gold 500,000

(Because You Loved me)

 

45,000,000 million

Edited December 16, 2025 at 11:43 AM by rodrigofreitas

[PuraVida]

In RIAA

 

Albums

These Are Special Times November 3, 2022 6x Platinum

Let's Talk About Love November 3, 2022 11x Platinum

Falling Into You March 3, 2021 12x Platinum

Taking Chances February 28, 2008 1x Platinum

All The Way...A Decade of Song December 6, 2005 7x Platinum

Miracle January 14, 2005 1x Platinum

New Day Live in Las Vegas September 21, 2004 Gold

One Heart April 23, 2003 2x Platinum

A New Day Has Come January 30, 2003 3x Platinum

THE COLLECTOR'S SERIES, VOLUME ONE January 30, 2001 Gold

The Colour of My Love November 5, 1999 6x Platinum

Unison June 18, 1997 1x Platinum

Celine Dion July 3, 1996 2x Platinum

 

I had no idea the first three albums on the list were done so recently, especially FIY. I don't know how global markets do it, but I hope Sony takes the time to update everything.

[comingback]

Thanks!

So TAST, FIY and LTAL are recent.

I'm sure ATW and TCOML are also higher.

[rodrigofreitas]

A special look:

My Heart Will Go On 11 + 1 = 12 million

I'm Your Angel 8 + 1 = 9 million

The Prayer 3 + 1 + 0,5 = 4,5 million

Immortality 1 + 0,5 + 1 = 2,5 million

The Reason 3 + 1 + 0,5 + 1 =5,5 million

Because You Loved Me 4 + 0,5 = 4,5 million

If I Ruled the World 2 million

Love Can Move Mounthains 1 million

[rodrigofreitas]

Celine Album + single + other albums (in certifications) in U.S

 

My Heart Will Go On 11 + 7 + 12 + 4 = 34 million

Because You Loved Me 12 + 7 + 2 + 4 + 0,5 = 25,5 million

It's All Coming Back 12 + 7 + 2 = 21 million

The Power of Love 6 + 7 + 1 + 0,5 = 14,5 million

I'm Your Angel 6 + 8 + 1 + 1 = 16 million

The Prayer 6 + 4,5 = 10,5 million

 

The big thing in this list, is that all this songs are in pure sales

[rodrigofreitas]

Albums 53 million

Singles 11 million

Videos 1,075 million

 

65,075 million (celine)

+

45 million (in other albums)

 

+ 110 million (in certifications)

 

Other units sold but that do not have certifications are the units present in home videos in U.S

 

Beauty and the Beast (1992) 34 million

Titanic (1998) 30,3 million

[DCCeline]

Thanks!

So TAST, FIY and LTAL are recent.

I'm sure ATW and TCOML are also higher.

 

If they were higher why didnt they do them 3 years ago when they updated some of her albums and songs?

[DCCeline]

You cant add that 45 million in certifications from other albums. It doesnt work that way for any official sources.

 

I really dont think TCOML is eligible for 7x platinum. It has sold as of 2016, 4.6 million in the US and was certified 6x in 1999 meaning they over shipped it by almost 2 million. They certaintly didnt ship another million when they had 2 million outstanding.

 

People need to temper expectations of what can be certified. ATW is probably eligible for 8x or 9 platinum but with My Love and now that I am Celine stealing sales it will be a while for diamond. Plus they didnt update it when they updated those other albums

 

 

[comingback]

Sony Music need to apply for a request for certification.

 

Once all required documentation is provided, the RIAA will approve your request for certification by emailing you and our GR&F auditors to proceed with the audit process.

Have questions? Please email certifications@riaa.com.

All RIAA Awards dating back to 1958 are available to view at riaa.com/gold-platinum.

 

https://www.riaa.com...platinum/apply/

 

I don't think that the fans can apply for it.

But if we can apply for it, we need to send a mail for it.

Edited December 16, 2025 at 01:08 PM by comingback

[KyleVan41]

These albums are at least or should be certified :

 

All the way - minimum 8 * platinum

My love - platinum

Collectors series platinum

These are special times 7 * platinum

A new day has come 4 * platinum

 

Singles :

I won’t name the levels but below ALL are eligible for minimum gold platinum or multi platinum and have not even been certified once

 

Taking chances

Ashes

A new day has come

I’m alive

O holy night

The prayer

To love you more

That’s the way it is

Tell him

I drove all night

Beautiful boy

If you asked me to

Where does my heart beat now

 

 

[KyleVan41]

The record label has to pay for these so there’s no way it will ever be done - they’re “done “ with Celine

[DCCeline]

Its $350

[comingback]

for non members 450 US Dollar

[rodrigofreitas]

according to this https://x.com/chartsartists/status/1906524792905232840?s=46&t=4LCoX7PULkTcX0pRt5zmoA

 

Céline Dion's eligible certifications in the US: 115.225 M

 

Albums 77,5 million

 

Let's Talk About Love 15x Platinum

Falling Into You 14x Platinum

All The Way 10x Platinum (Diamond)

The Colour of My Love 8x Platinum

These Are Special Times 7x Platinum

A New Day Has Come 5x Platinum

One Heart 4x Platinum

Celine Dion 4x Platinum

Unison 2 x Platinum

Taking Chances 2x Platinum

My Love Essential Collection 2x Platinum

Miracle 2x Platinum

The Collector's Series Vol 1 1xPlatinum

A New Day Live in Las Vegas 1x Platinum

Loved Me Back To Life Gold

(According to Music Data (March 2025) Loved Me Back to life (album)

sold 745,000 in U.S so, Yes, It's a Gold Certification

 

Songs 36 million

 

My Heart Will Go On 8x Platinum

Because You Loved Me 3x Platinum

It's All Coming Back 3x Platinum

The Power of Love 3x Platinum

I'm Your Angel 3x Platinum

All By Myself 2x Platinum

I'm Alive 2x Platinum

Beauty and the Beast 1x Platinum

Voices that Care 1x Platinum

That's The Way It Is 1x Platinum

Tell Him 1x Platinum

Ashes Gold

If You Asked Me To Gold

A New Day Has Come Gold

Loved Me Back To Life Gold

Taking Chances Gold

Alone Gold

I Drove All Night Gold

I Surrender Gold

The Prayer Gold

To Love You More Gold

Happy Xmas Gold

O Holy Night Gold

Immortality Gold

I Love You Gold

Think Twice Gold

Where Does My Heart Beat Now Gold

 

DVDS 1,725 million

[rodrigofreitas]

for non members 450 US Dollar

 

But Sony is a member

 

In this case, Sony need money to updated

[isurrender]

I really dont think TCOML is eligible for 7x platinum. It has sold as of 2016, 4.6 million in the US and was certified 6x in 1999 meaning they over shipped it by almost 2 million. They certaintly didnt ship another million when they had 2 million outstanding.

 

4.6 million is the soundscan figure. Back in the 90s, you have to add sales of music clubs. And this figure is unknown for TCOML (unlike other Céline's albums).

 

Céline's discography is not of those which have overcertified albums, so it would be the exception.

 

And being certified 6x platinum 6 years after its release is kind of weird for overshipping.

Edited December 16, 2025 at 02:14 PM by isurrender

[DCCeline]

That tweet is not a source. Especially because of LTAL and FIY which were just recertified in 2022. They are not eligible for 4 million extra in 3 years. Not even Taylor Swift goes that fast

[DCCeline]

 

 

4.6 million is the soundscan figure. Back in the 90s, you have to add sales of music clubs. And this figure is unknown for TCOML (unlike other Céline's albums).

 

Céline's discography is not of those which have overcertified albums, so it would be the exception.

 

And being certified 6x platinum 6 years after its release is kind of weird for overshipping.

 

They dont add club sales though. If the album was eligible for 7x platinum they would have done it 3 years ago when they updated her landmark albums and they probably would have done it last year for the 30th anniversary.

 

Just like if ATW was eligible for diamond they absolutely would have done it by now

[KyleVan41]

according to this https://x.com/chartsartists/status/1906524792905232840?s=46&t=4LCoX7PULkTcX0pRt5zmoA

 

Céline Dion's eligible certifications in the US: 115.225 M

 

Albums 77,5 million

 

Let's Talk About Love 15x Platinum

Falling Into You 14x Platinum

All The Way 10x Platinum (Diamond)

The Colour of My Love 8x Platinum

These Are Special Times 7x Platinum

A New Day Has Come 5x Platinum

One Heart 4x Platinum

Celine Dion 4x Platinum

Unison 2 x Platinum

Taking Chances 2x Platinum

My Love Essential Collection 2x Platinum

Miracle 2x Platinum

The Collector's Series Vol 1 1xPlatinum

A New Day Live in Las Vegas 1x Platinum

Loved Me Back To Life Gold

(According to Music Data (March 2025) Loved Me Back to life (album)

sold 745,000 in U.S so, Yes, It's a Gold Certification

 

Songs 36 million

 

My Heart Will Go On 8x Platinum

Because You Loved Me 3x Platinum

It's All Coming Back 3x Platinum

The Power of Love 3x Platinum

I'm Your Angel 3x Platinum

All By Myself 2x Platinum

I'm Alive 2x Platinum

Beauty and the Beast 1x Platinum

Voices that Care 1x Platinum

That's The Way It Is 1x Platinum

Tell Him 1x Platinum

Ashes Gold

If You Asked Me To Gold

A New Day Has Come Gold

Loved Me Back To Life Gold

Taking Chances Gold

Alone Gold

I Drove All Night Gold

I Surrender Gold

The Prayer Gold

To Love You More Gold

Happy Xmas Gold

O Holy Night Gold

Immortality Gold

I Love You Gold

Think Twice Gold

Where Does My Heart Beat Now Gold

 

DVDS 1,725 million

 

Sorry buddy but your delusional with these numbers as per usual

[rodrigofreitas]

You cant add that 45 million in certifications from other albums. It doesnt work that way for any official sources.

 

I really dont think TCOML is eligible for 7x platinum. It has sold as of 2016, 4.6 million in the US and was certified 6x in 1999 meaning they over shipped it by almost 2 million. They certaintly didnt ship another million when they had 2 million outstanding.

 

People need to temper expectations of what can be certified. ATW is probably eligible for 8x or 9 platinum but with My Love and now that I am Celine stealing sales it will be a while for diamond. Plus they didnt update it when they updated those other albums

 

I am not "adding" these numbers to the CELINE numbers directly. My intention is to show that these songs were successful in their time,

and that each unit sold is certified.

Regarding certifications, we all know that Sony needs to update sales and certificates. But we don't know the exact value,

we just have some information. Correct or not, from various sources. But the forum was created for that, for discussion, exchanging ideas, information, etc.

[rodrigofreitas]

Sorry buddy but your delusional with these numbers as per usual

 

I understand what you think, but, as I put above: according to the link... according to this information.

Soon I shared information about possible Celine sales updates. I did not say that the information is true.