"Taking Chances" album - Official Topic

October 22, 2007 at 12:18 PM

Alone as a second single will be a disaster. :cry:

The only way for Celine to sell this album is to introduce it the best possible way on all the most important show in US and Europe. She has always done that because she is the only one to provide amazing live performances. Falling into you, Tell him, the reason, weren't very successfull, but she was there doing incredible live performances everywhere with hot material : Seduces me, River deep, Power of love, The reason.... That's all what counts here. For me the most important thing will be to blow everyone away by choosing the right song to sing live like she has always done. I think of New dawn, Woman in me, Nothin left, eventually eyes on me, skies of LA... Singing only Taking chances won't have any impact.

October 22, 2007 at 12:23 PM

I really don't get this whole cover song debate. Sure I haven't heard those songs yet, except from the recording session, so maybe there are better choices than Alone as single material, but in the end all of her songs come from other people, so if someone has sung them before or not, that's just a minor detail. And the observation I made is that for example It's All Coming Back To Me Now, another cover song, is the one that gets the most praises, even people who don't like Celine (or who dont like to admit that they secretly like her) they love that song.

IACBTMN is not a cover. Meat Loaf made recorded it after Celine.

October 22, 2007 at 12:23 PM

Seb... I just saw your adoring picture.. and the radio started to play ms scary!
You have to Shake It Off, Dejvej!

no... turn it off!! :whistling:

Alone as a second single will be a disaster.

The only way for Celine to sell this album is to introduce it the best possible way on all the most important show in US and Europe. She has always done that because she is the only one to provide amazing live performances. Falling into you, Tell him, the reason, weren't very successfull, but she was there doing incredible live performances everywhere with hot material : Seduces me, River deep, Power of love, The reason.... That's all what counts here. For me the most important thing will be to blow everyone away by choosing the right song to sing live like she has always done. I think of New dawn, Woman in me, Nothin left, eventually eyes on me, skies of LA... Singing only Taking chances won't have any impact.

I don't want to blow your bubble, but Tell Him went to 1 here.... and she didn't reach that place after MHWGO.... I do agree that it's a shame to release another cover when you have 13 new great songs!

At least the singles from ANDHC were all orginal! :giggle:

October 22, 2007 at 12:31 PM

I really don't get this whole cover song debate. Sure I haven't heard those songs yet, except from the recording session, so maybe there are better choices than Alone as single material, but in the end all of her songs come from other people, so if someone has sung them before or not, that's just a minor detail. And the observation I made is that for example It's All Coming Back To Me Now, another cover song, is the one that gets the most praises, even people who don't like Celine (or who dont like to admit that they secretly like her) they love that song.
IACBTMN is not a cover. Meat Loaf made recorded it after Celine.

Yes it is ! It was recorded by Pandoras Box before :whistling:

October 22, 2007 at 12:32 PM

IACBTMN is not a cover. Meat Loaf made recorded it after Celine.

IT IS A COVER: Pandora's box!

With a bondage/leather inspired video.

http://www.jimsteinman.com/pbox7.jpg

http://www.jimsteinman.com/pbox6.jpg

October 22, 2007 at 12:34 PM

IACBTMN is not a cover. Meat Loaf made recorded it after Celine.
IT IS A COVER: Pandora's box!
With a bondage/leather inspired video.

http://www.jimsteinman.com/pbox7.jpg
http://www.jimsteinman.com/pbox6.jpg

What the heck is that? :sofunny:

OK, my bad. :sofunny:

October 22, 2007 at 12:34 PM

lol teodora... where've you been? hahaha that's old news!

October 22, 2007 at 12:37 PM

I don't want to blow your bubble, but Tell Him went to 1 here....

Wow, I'm impressed. :rolleyes:

By the way people, Alone is definatly not IACBTMN. IACBTMN was almost as famous as Woman in me... So who cares...

Moreover, the argument which says that she already did that by the past is ridiculous...Maybe we want something different this time no ? The goal of this album and the way it is introduced...Is to bring something a little bit new, a little bit different. Alone brings NOTHING new. That's all.

October 22, 2007 at 12:38 PM

lol teodora... where've you been? hahaha that's old news!

Yes, forgive me for never ever hearing about Pandora's Box :sofunny:

I always thought this was written for Meat Loaf, then re-directed towards Celine.

BTW, this is one of my sister's favourite songs ever (and she's not into Celine at all... or any kind of music really :giggle: ).

October 22, 2007 at 12:42 PM

Alone brings NOTHING new.

It brings Céline's voice, a new mysterious classy melody and instrumentalization. New interpretation. That's new enough for me. I'm all for Alone. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

October 22, 2007 at 12:46 PM

Alone brings NOTHING new.
It brings Céline's voice, a new mysterious classy melody and instrumentalization. New interpretation. That's new enough for me. I'm all for Alone.

I know seb, I know :cry:

But whatever the single, you will praise it no ?

October 22, 2007 at 12:48 PM

when you think about what Ben moody said about Alone it is the hottest candidate to be a single...

October 22, 2007 at 12:49 PM

I want "Alone" as a single. :in_love:

October 22, 2007 at 12:57 PM

Alone brings NOTHING new.
It brings Céline's voice, a new mysterious classy melody and instrumentalization. New interpretation. That's new enough for me. I'm all for Alone.

I know seb, I know

But whatever the single, you will praise it no ?

The album is full of singles ä- what would be the point of criticizing then if she indeed chose Alone? Eyes On Me is my least favorite one for a single choice but whatever she choses I'll be fine with it cuzz she is ready to promote every song on the album and that counts. She isn't even concerned with her image, it's not an extreme make-over album a la NElly Furtado Lose - not at all. This is vintage Céline that is embracing some guitars and openly saying she enjoys them. And it's high time she did that. No matter if they choose The Woman In Me or Alone as a single. It'll be still the same Céline.

My guess is that Alone will be for Europe and Nothin LEft For the US. Alone wasn't that popular in Europe (certainly not in Germany) so it may again succeed. And it has hit written all over it. Kate Ryan is currently covering one hit song after another and she is a huge success here so... I don't think Céline will be so bad off with Alone especially it's not a classic song here - at least not as much as in the US.

October 22, 2007 at 01:02 PM

If all that comes true, it would be great: more unreleased b-sides, a special edition of the album next year
Another good thing is certainly the box set with the demo recordings they are planning. I bet that's something they are planning for a possible hiatus after her tour.

What are you talking about?? :blink:

October 22, 2007 at 01:02 PM

What the crackers ar you babbeling about?!

Behind?! Behind?! What do you mean behind?! Ten Days didn't create the A New Day show.

/fred

:lmao:

Fred, the "Behind Behind Behind" was just awesome!!

The "What the crackers..." part is what kills me!! :sofunny:

October 22, 2007 at 01:11 PM

Alone brings NOTHING new.
It brings Céline's voice, a new mysterious classy melody and instrumentalization. New interpretation. That's new enough for me. I'm all for Alone.

I know seb, I know

But whatever the single, you will praise it no ?
The album is full of singles ä- what would be the point of criticizing then if she indeed chose Alone? Eyes On Me is my least favorite one for a single choice but whatever she choses I'll be fine with it cuzz she is ready to promote every song on the album and that counts. She isn't even concerned with her image, it's not an extreme make-over album a la NElly Furtado Lose - not at all. This is vintage Céline that is embracing some guitars and openly saying she enjoys them. And it's high time she did that. No matter if they choose The Woman In Me or Alone as a single. It'll be still the same Céline.

My guess is that Alone will be for Europe and Nothin LEft For the US. Alone wasn't that popular in Europe (certainly not in Germany) so it may again succeed. And it has hit written all over it. Kate Ryan is currently covering one hit song after another and she is a huge success here so... I don't think Céline will be so bad off with Alone especially it's not a classic song here - at least not as much as in the US.

So we are agree seb. We think it could be better to avoid Alone At least in the US because it was a bit too popular. May I say that ? :shy: That's all.. And I concur also for Eyes on me...It's for the moment my least favourite single. But as you, I will enjoy the album or the singles...I will be able to listen and apreciate this good vintage Dion album with some guitars and fresh sound... And I will love Woman in me, Alone...etc...

But I try to think in term of sucess...The problem is not me ! I know the capacities of Celine and that's what counts ok... But I think that the best strategy is to show for one time, the "dark" side af the album lol....And the best strategy is to stay coherent. Single are one thing, of course it's important...But for me and especially when it concerns Celine the most important thing will be to choose the right song to sing live : And it will be the moment for singing all the most amazing song that are not single material : Right next, Song for You, Skies of LA, New Dawn, and WOman in me.

October 22, 2007 at 01:21 PM

I never said we disagreed much, julien! I see your point and many other here as well but what baffles me is their stubborn claim that if Alone is released the album itself is gonna be doomed. I can't understand why as it was actually this very track that brought many of non fans to Céline's new sound and new album - LA Times had a special story about the Dion/Moody collaboration and now everyone knows that Alone is a Moody production and Moody = cool and Moody = radio friendly. So these are two big selling points already for this song being second single.

It's got also this certain dark sound you were talking about! Much more than the original in first place... the original is rocky, céline's is mysterious, dark, I'd say absolutely in the vein of It's All Coming Back To Me. I see so many similarities and so many positive points for this song being the second single I can't understand why so many oppose its release which is as we know almost certain now...

I agree Skies Of LA - especially coming from the writer of UMBRELLA -is Céline's "I Remember LA" part II, even unwillingly it seems to be a wonderful sequel with most wonderful lyrics. That's why she put it at the very end of the album. She wanted to end the album the Céline way, not the edgy extreme makeover Woman In Me way.

October 22, 2007 at 01:26 PM

Basically, if they want to go for exposure/publicity, "Alone" is the best choice.

October 22, 2007 at 01:32 PM

I personally think I Surrender should be the next single -_-

October 22, 2007 at 01:32 PM

Everybody was talking because first single was a cover

WHO!? Who was talking exactly? Everyone loved Céline's version and the vast majority didn't know it's a cover. Don't be delusional in favor of your Alone hate! Perhaps she wants Alone to be single? And if you want it or not she is the queen of covers just like Whitney - both of them have about half of their single material as covers.

I don't hate Alone, I like it more than Eyes on me, but I'm not talking of what I like, I'm saying that the thing of this album was to show a "new" Celine, for a new-younger public and I think the album is full of new-wonderful songs to do that

And you are right, nobody knew Taking Chances before Celine's version but people found out it was a cover, I'm member of differents music forums and everybody was like: "a cover again" :whistling: so I can imagine what is going to happen if Alone is the second single..We are not in the 90s anymore

October 22, 2007 at 01:44 PM

I can't understand why so many oppose its release which is as we know almost certain now...

Part of me doesnt really want to get into this debate, but what the hell I guess...

I'll explain to you my own personal reasons for why I think its a poor choice for a second single:

1. It is a well known and beloved song by many (at least in this country), covered by a singer the general public loves to hate. That puts it at a disadvantage imo.

2. The original vocalist did an incredible job, so there was nothing really to add or change. And Celine didn't really add or change anything, vocally speaking. I actually find her delivery a bit mechanical, especially compared to Ann's vocals.

3. Its another cover. Many people give Celine flack for not writing her own songs, and many gave her flack for using a cover song for her first single. So to release another cover as her next song is a mistake imo. Especially when there are other great original songs on the album.

So those are my reasons. I've played Alone to some people and while they don't deny she has a great voice, they think just the fact that she covered this song a travesty. Exposure and publicity is not enough to sustain or popularize a song. It might garner initial attention, but that doesn't mean it will become a success.

October 22, 2007 at 01:49 PM

I personally think I Surrender should be the next single

Tally you're 7 albums behind They could put the live version on the Alone (/next) single of course! :shifty:

Seb's right in the way that Alone wasn't big here... I never heard it before!

And Tal, you're also right! Why release a cover, when you got amazing brand new songs?? :rolleyes:

BTW I'M FINALLY HEARING TAKING CHANCES ON THE DUTCH RADIO RIGHT NOW!!!! :kicking:

but they cut the bridge!!! OOOOOOOO :mellow: STUPID :bash: STUPID :bash: STUPID :bash:

Edited October 22, 2007 at 01:53 PM by Davey84

October 22, 2007 at 02:05 PM

I can't understand why so many oppose its release which is as we know almost certain now...

Part of me doesnt really want to get into this debate, but what the hell I guess...

I'll explain to you my own personal reasons for why I think its a poor choice for a second single:
1. It is a well known and beloved song by many (at least in this country), covered by a singer the general public loves to hate. That puts it at a disadvantage imo.
2. The original vocalist did an incredible job, so there was nothing really to add or change. And Celine didn't really add or change anything, vocally speaking. I actually find her delivery a bit mechanical, especially compared to Ann's vocals.
3. Its another cover. Many people give Celine flack for not writing her own songs, and many gave her flack for using a cover song for her first single. So to release another cover as her next song is a mistake imo. Especially when there are other great original songs on the album.

So those are my reasons. I've played Alone to some people and while they don't deny she has a great voice, they think just the fact that she covered this song a travesty. Exposure and publicity is not enough to sustain or popularize a song. It might garner initial attention, but that doesn't mean it will become a success.

Totally agree. And above all, the album has many great songs that deserve a chance

October 22, 2007 at 02:29 PM

I agree release "Alone" in the Euro is fine, but not in the US. "This Time" should be the second single in the US.

October 22, 2007 at 02:34 PM

I don't want a different single in the US, only because they won't release it as a physical single.

We need a dance single, so EYES ON ME works best. Let's show people what Celine's got. Not just pipes but rythem.

October 22, 2007 at 03:15 PM

Alone is regarded as one of the greatest power ballads in the UK and for Celine to release it as a single would be like her standing in front of the firing squad. I love her version- it's very dark and atmospheric and it'll probably be one of my most played off the album but I think the other great, original songs on the album need consideration. I don't want her to be turned into the Cover Queen- she's above Girls Aloud, Westlife etc- sure, record great songs, that's fun, but just have them to plump up the album.

October 22, 2007 at 03:59 PM

... TAKING CHANCES IS GONNA HAVE ITS BRAZILIAN RELEASE ON THE 12TH OF NOVEMBER. :clap: :kicking:

... I think Alone's a very good song. Celine's vocals are fab... BUT, if we talk about a worldwide success, it wouldn't be a good choice. MANY people know it and they know that it's a Heart's song. What Celine needs is something new, such as Eyes On Me, Surprise, Surprise, This Time... Maybe, it would be a success in Europe; dunno... HOWEVER IT MAY BE... All I wanna do is to listen to all the songs... Seriously, I think Alone wouldn't be a good single choice...

Lisi140 · October 22, 2007 at 04:05 PM

I think "Alone" as a second single is OK! Better than "Eyes on me"..... :thumbs_up:

October 22, 2007 at 04:07 PM

Minus than 2 days for heard the full "Map To My Heart" on TCH single! Can't wait!

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