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[KimboCosmo]

 wolfepaw, on Oct 1 2008, 06:48 PM, said:

 KimboCosmo, on Oct 1 2008, 05:43 PM, said:

Does anyone have closure yet?

I'm trying, Kim.  I think I will go do another Celine wallpaper or signature to soothe my troubled mind.  That always seems to get me out of a funk, and for sure, this has put me in a funk.

I'm sorry, Peggi...I hope you get the reply from him that you need.  

Edited by KimboCosmo, 01 October 2008 - 05:02 PM.

[wolfepaw]

Thanks, Kim.  I do, too.  I don't really NEED a reply from him, but it would sure be nice.  I don't like talking about people behind their backs, so a one-on-one with Oscar would make me feel better.  I know I made light of it in some of my posts on this, but, deep down, I think it really bothered me.

[CelineRules!]

I think it bothered everyone, since he talked to about everybody on the forum..

Making fun of it is just a way of dealing with it..

I really hope he gives you an answer

[KimboCosmo]

You know, when I first talked with Grobandion, he was really mean with some things he said about what we were talking about, and then all of a sudden, he was nice the next day and always was after that.  Very strange.  

[Nmj]

Because ITS crazy

[GoldenLeaf]

 Nmj, on Oct 1 2008, 07:49 PM, said:

Because ITS crazy

Yeah, he/she is totally mad in the head. I bet that he/she is currently making up a bunch of lies to try to proof he isn't guilty.

[takeachance]

I bet he/she/it is in the process of creating another account as a new person from a different network, and we will all be chatting to him/she/it  again in no time!!!      On a more serious note, That person spent so much time here as 3 people, or whatever, they prob have withdrawel symptoms and will need to come back or go to another forum. That is the unfortunate thing about the internet, you never know...  

[Krys]

i think its rather rude to call he/she "it". even though he/she has split personality, doesnt mean he/she deserves to be called "it"

[takeachance]

I dont think calling that person IT is as insulting as how that person insulted others on here by having them engage with a person who was not really who they made them selves out to be. wasted peoples time and energy. I did not mean it in a bad way , only its hard to catagorize the person as he or she as they were both at diff times.   Anyway , i wont be posting anything else about it

[Nmj]

 lamourpourCeline, on Oct 1 2008, 09:27 PM, said:

i think its rather rude to call he/she "it". even though he/she has split personality, doesnt mean he/she deserves to be called "it"

We call it "IT" because we don't know if its he or she
-Nmj

[Krys]

ya i know cuz you guys are too lazy to type out he/she

[Snowhite]

he feels shy now that's why he doesnt reply!

[dj4celine]

 lamourpourCeline, on Oct 2 2008, 08:42 AM, said:

ya i know cuz you guys are too lazy to type out he/she

[Snowhite]

 dj4celine, on Oct 2 2008, 02:09 PM, said:

 lamourpourCeline, on Oct 2 2008, 08:42 AM, said:

ya i know cuz you guys are too lazy to type out he/she

i bet that is a man so im not going to type he/she

[wolfepaw]

Hi, everyone. Good morning and I hope all are doing well.  I wanted to let you know that I have heard from Oscar.  He had a really good explanation for everything that happened and I think we may have done him a HUGE disservice.  I am emailing him right now and asking if he would mind if I share his email with all of you.  I hope he says "Yes" because I think you will find his explanation as plausible as I did.

If he gives his consent to share his email, I will post it here shortly.  I will share this much:  grobandion, WallsDoTalk and celineargento ARE 3 different people.  They all work in the same dentist office and there are 2 computers there, Oscar's and Jose's (WallDoTalk, his name is not Ivan and he is not from Croatia and he is also a dentist).  They connect to the internet through a hub, so the IP address may be the shared and, therefore, the same.  Nati, "celineargento", is a dental assistant in the office and she uses either Oscar's or Jose's computer to log in.  Oscar has shared with me some more personal information about himself and, for those of you who can read Spanish, you can Google his name and you will come up with information about him.  I found a couple of things, but I don't understand Spanish, so I don't know exactly what it says, but it looks professional and legitimate.

I will let you know what he said, if he agrees, and, please, do not judge him until then.  I really believe Oscar is telling the truth and this has hurt him a lot.  I, for one, will continue to email him because I feel he has been nothing but kind and upfront with me.

I will post more when I get a response from him about sharing his email.  Thanks for reading this and please keep an open mind.

[Bellamy]

He had sent the email to us too. But I still can't believe the whole thing. It can't explain they login and off one after another in 1-2 minutes all the time. If they have 2 computers. why they never login at the same time?

[celínico_sin_remedio]

 wolfepaw, on Oct 2 2008, 03:59 PM, said:

Hi, everyone. Good morning and I hope all are doing well. I wanted to let you know that I have heard from Oscar. He had a really good explanation for everything that happened and I think we may have done him a HUGE disservice. I am emailing him right now and asking if he would mind if I share his email with all of you. I hope he says "Yes" because I think you will find his explanation as plausible as I did.

If he gives his consent to share his email, I will post it here shortly. I will share this much: grobandion, WallsDoTalk and celineargento ARE 3 different people. They all work in the same dentist office and there are 2 computers there, Oscar's and Jose's (WallDoTalk, his name is not Ivan and he is not from Croatia and he is also a dentist). They connect to the internet through a hub, so the IP address may be the shared and, therefore, the same. Nati, "celineargento", is a dental assistant in the office and she uses either Oscar's or Jose's computer to log in. Oscar has shared with me some more personal information about himself and, for those of you who can read Spanish, you can Google his name and you will come up with information about him. I found a couple of things, but I don't understand Spanish, so I don't know exactly what it says, but it looks professional and legitimate.

I will let you know what he said, if he agrees, and, please, do not judge him until then. I really believe Oscar is telling the truth and this has hurt him a lot. I, for one, will continue to email him because I feel he has been nothing but kind and upfront with me.

I will post more when I get a response from him about sharing his email. Thanks for reading this and please keep an open mind.

Now THIS made me


OMG but what's Oscar complete name?? I'm from Spain but if I tip 'Oscar' , you know...it's a current name...

[Krys]

and it doesnt explain who's the 4th account

[Bellamy]

He said it's his wife who is also interested to Celine now.

[Edwin]

I would really like to believe this, and if this is true they should have been more upfront about it from the start. That they knew each other and not act like they were strangers. Additionally what is the point of WDT lying about being from Croatia or that his name is Ivan?! And the wife also used the computers at the dentist's office?! This has already broken their credibility with me. I will be pleasant towards all of them if they do return, but unfortunately things have changed.

Edited by EdwinDeux, 02 October 2008 - 08:14 AM.

[Krys]

im also having a hard time believing things now...

[Bellamy]

 EdwinDeux, on Oct 2 2008, 10:13 PM, said:

I would really like to believe this, and if this is true they should have been more upfront about it from the start. That they knew each other and not act like they were strangers. Additionally what is the point of WDT lying about being from Croatia or that his name is Ivan?! And the wife also used the computers at the dentist's office?! This has already broken their credibility with me. I will be pleasant towards all of them if they do return, but unfortunately things have changed.

I agree with everything you said. It's hard to believe him now. And many things are suspicious.

And he said he would never try to get back on this forum. So I guess it's end of discussion now?

[amyja89]

 EdwinDeux, on Oct 2 2008, 03:13 PM, said:

And the wife also used the computers at the dentist's office?!

Excellent point.

[wolfepaw]

Oscar also explained to me about the 4th account "esnrq".  His wife occasionally comes by his office and, because she also likes Celine and knew how much Oscar enjoyed coming on the forum, she thought she would sign up and see why he liked it so much.  And since Oscar and Jose are dentists, one would think they actually have to see patients once in awhile, so they may not all be free when one of them is logging on.  Plus, Jose sounds like he is a bit of a sh-- stirrer, so I think he mostly did what he did to mess with Oscar.

His wife visits Oscar at the office and I don't find this so hard to believe.  I'm dont think Oscar has an internet connection at home, so the only time he or his wife could log in would be from one of the computers at the office.

Is this really so hard to believe?  To me, this makes more sense than Oscar being a split personality or just unbalanced.  There was never indication of that in his emails to me.  I hope I won't get banned for defending him, but I think we may have jumped to some conclusions about the situation and before we start maligning someone, we really need to get their side of the story and then decide if we can believe it or not.

Thanks for letting me try to defend him.  I know that may not be too popular right now, but if he's telling the truth (and I think he is), put yourself in his shoes and imagine how you would feel to read what everyone has been saying and how crushed you would be.

[PrincesseJen]

 Bellamy, on Oct 2 2008, 10:04 AM, said:

He had sent the email to us too. But I still can't believe the whole thing. It can't explain they login and off one after another in 1-2 minutes all the time. If they have 2 computers. why they never login at the same time?

Because apparently they are using the computer during working hours. If they are actually doing work on one computer then they only have the other one left to be on the forum. Don't understand how the wife fits in it though.  

[VinnyT.]

Let's believe they are 3/4 different people, but he/they cheated us, with fake fights, fake compliments and with the thing they didnt know each other, that's an absurd behavior as well. BTW honestly I dont believe in this, some people are so good at lying!
It's not the first time I hear it was not me but my sister, my mom etc etc the same old speech

[ThisTime]

Didn't celinargento hit on Oscar? Why would she do that on the forum if they knew each other.
Plus everyone pointed out that WDT said they were from Croatia so why in the world would they lie about that?
Then if you look in the Tango thread:
http://www.celinedio...NGO-t36169.html

WDT mentions that he needs help with his Spanish as he is studying it. So if he's a dentist in Argentina how the heck would he not know Spanish? I mean look at the thread between them, if they all knew each other in person then why the heck would they not know names or where in Argentina each other is at.

I may be off on this, but how you can be a dental assistant when you are 19? I thought you'd have to like have some schooling or something. & if you don't I'm not sure I want those dental assistants poking around in my mouth

[VinnyT.]

 ThisTime, on Oct 2 2008, 04:51 PM, said:

Didn't celinargento hit on Oscar? Why would she do that on the forum if they knew each other.
Plus everyone pointed out that WDT said they were from Croatia so why in the world would they lie about that?
Then if you look in the Tango thread:
http://www.celinedio...NGO-t36169.html

WDT mentions that he needs help with his Spanish as he is studying it. So if he's a dentist in Argentina how the heck would he not know Spanish? I mean look at the thread between them, if they all knew each other in person then why the heck would they not know names or where in Argentina each other is at.

I may be off on this, but how you can be a dental assistant when you are 19? I thought you'd have to like have some schooling or something. & if you don't I'm not sure I want those dental assistants poking around in my mouth

well said..he keeps on lying

[Bellamy]

Exactly, even if it's true they are 3 people work in the same office. They still cheated.

[ThisTime]

Yeah I think he is just trying to cover up lies with lies.
Do I think he's twisted & creepy? No.
Like someone had said, I think Oscar got bored, wanted his topics to be interesting, and wanted to defend his sexuality and just innocently created accounts to spark some interest in himself and the things he talked about. Oscar never caused problems or went around and did creepy things, well for the most part (some of the girls might not have appreciated being hit on, but it wasn't like... horrible)

So I guess I wish Oscar would just apologize and be honest about the situation rather than continuing these lies.

Edited by ThisTime, 02 October 2008 - 09:05 AM.