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[Davey84]

when was it told? and where? in Paris?


hoe laat ga jij naar a'dam??

[zoea2812]

I just hope Celine does what SHE wants to do and focuses on what she wants out of life. Hopefully if Celine does do a show in Vegas I would be able to go as last time I never got to go and see her. But if she wants to focus on family then I will be very happy for her. I am very grateful that i have seen the phenomenon that is Celine 3 times and I am so lucky. CELINE IS THE GREATEST!!!!       

[hamiltonclare]

I really hope that she takes a break and focuses on what SHE wants to do. I'd pay whatever to see her in Vegas again, but I can wait, I'm not going anywhere!!

Who cares if she is not so focused on work now - RC is great, lets hope that she and Rene have another child, because to all intents and puposes, thats what will make them happy. I think Vegas was a great call for her family rather than touring and dragging everyone around the world. Fancy pants hotels are fine, but nothing beats sleeping in your own bed at night.

If she goes back to Vegas for a while, good luck to her.
If she disappears for a few years to spend time with her husband and son, and tries to fall with another baby, good luck to her.
If she decides that she's had enough and wants to retire - i'll be heartbroken - but good luck to her.

[Javito]

Why can't she just settle anywhere she wants but without singing 4/5 days a week, forcing to the extreme her voice, and ruining her career because she is far away from everything related to the real world?

I mean she can raise another child in Las Vegas, China or the artic pole, but she doesn't need to do again the damage she has done to her career in the past five years  

Edited by Gonzalillo, 02 June 2008 - 03:43 PM.

[stevo]

Vegas the 2nd = Byebye Celine

[stevethefan]

I would love it if she came back to LV even if it was not long term. I think it would be a little easier than before if she came back because the last time everything was a big unknown, whether or not it would work or not and if people would go to the show. Now that she has been so successful at it new shows would not be as risky. But if she does this it would probably not start until a few years from now.

Edited by stevethefan, 02 June 2008 - 04:05 PM.

[Shaun]

Celine will return to The Colosseum one day, whether it's for a few shows or a longer engagement like "A New Day..." was.  Let's make no mistake about it though, if she and Rene choose to base in Las Vegas permanently again we can forget about Celine's international career continuing.  She proved first time around in Vegas that you cannot continue to release singles and albums around the world and expect them to be successful whilst committing yourself to a production show 5 nights a week in Las Vegas.

Sadly, I feel it's already in the script for Celine to return once again permanently to Las Vegas and feel that if she does her legacy in show business internationally will not be "biggest selling female artist" or "the best singer the world has seen", it will simply be the singer who retired to Vegas during her 40's that no-one will be interested in unless they happen to choose Vegas as the place for their holiday. Vegas was cool the first time around.  It was risky, it set a precedent that others followed, it sold out night after night. But doing it all over again? Go back and the critics who had it for Celine, and still do, may very well have a point that Celine and rene and just flat out of inspiration in terms of career moves.

Celine deserves more.

[Nmj]

camt wait

[Black Kitten]

Gonzalillo, on Jun 2 2008, 04:43 PM, said:

Why can't she just settle anywhere she wants but without singing 4/5 days a week, forcing to the extreme her voice, and ruining her career because she is far away from everything related to the real world?

I mean she can raise another child in Las Vegas, China or the artic pole, but she doesn't need to do again the damage she has done to her career in the past five years  

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Vegas the 2nd = Byebye Celine

i agree. i would prefer to see her appear on TV once in a while and do some concerts once in a while. another Vegas show may kill her carreer.

[Javito]

Shaun, on Jun 3 2008, 12:14 AM, said:

Celine will return to The Colosseum one day, whether it's for a few shows or a longer engagement like "A New Day..." was.  Let's make no mistake about it though, if she and Rene choose to base in Las Vegas permanently again we can forget about Celine's international career continuing.  She proved first time around in Vegas that you cannot continue to release singles and albums around the world and expect them to be successful whilst committing yourself to a production show 5 nights a week in Las Vegas.

Sadly, I feel it's already in the script for Celine to return once again permanently to Las Vegas and feel that if she does her legacy in show business internationally will not be "biggest selling female artist" or "the best singer the world has seen", it will simply be the singer who retired to Vegas during her 40's that no-one will be interested in unless they happen to choose Vegas as the place for their holiday. Vegas was cool the first time around.  It was risky, it set a precedent that others followed, it sold out night after night. But doing it all over again? Go back and the critics who had it for Celine, and still do, may very well have a point that Celine and rene and just flat out of inspiration in terms of career moves.

Celine deserves more.

This is the point when I get angry and mad about Céline's recording label, something called like "Sony BMG". Aren't they supposed to promote and release good stuff from her albums even if Céline has been shut in Las Vegas during 5 years?. They are supposed to do that, but they did hardly anything with 4 good albums thrown now to the trash    And I wonder why René and Céline allow that!

dhena, on Jun 3 2008, 01:23 AM, said:

Gonzalillo, on Jun 2 2008, 04:43 PM, said:

Why can't she just settle anywhere she wants but without singing 4/5 days a week, forcing to the extreme her voice, and ruining her career because she is far away from everything related to the real world?

I mean she can raise another child in Las Vegas, China or the artic pole, but she doesn't need to do again the damage she has done to her career in the past five years  

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Vegas the 2nd = Byebye Celine

i agree. i would prefer to see her appear on TV once in a while and do some concerts once in a while. another Vegas show may kill her carreer.

Her career has been since she entered that colosseum and its now with a touché, its wounded and we have seen it during the past 5 years and we can see it now The attention from the media, TV's, radios towards her new music is almost null, and even her recording company (!!) does anything to save it

[critias]

if it's what she really really really really really wants why not.

but professionally it would be a wreckage.  

[Shaun]

Gonzalillo, on Jun 3 2008, 12:35 AM, said:

Her career has been since she entered that colosseum and its now with a touché, its wounded and we have seen it during the past 5 years and we can see it now The attention from the media, TV's, radios towards her new music is almost null, and even her recording company (!!) does anything to save it

Whilst I agree with almost everything you say, especially regarding Sony, it has to be said that Celine had the biggest chance EVER to capture a new audience with the release of "Taking Chances." The music media around the world were eagerly awaiting Celine's new material upon hearing the rumours of collaborations with Snoop Dog, Timbaland and the rest. People were genuinely interested in hearing Celine's new material. Even if it was highly embarrassing in the end I guarantee it would've been played around the world out of sheer interest. Sony are sending her material to radio and TV. They just aren't playing it.

However, someone (Sony? Celine? Rene?) decided to go down the safe route and fill the album with songs which, frankly, aren't all that radical or modern. Yes, they are new and fresh for Celine but not for the music world.  They decided to go with "Taking Chances", a cover, as the lead off single and the first 90 seconds of that song would immediately give every Celine critic in the world the ammo they love to have against Celine. It offered nothing new and interesting.

No-one is expecting Celine to throw off her clothes and film sexual music videos like the other divas are now doing but what the music world (and even her fans?) wanted her to do was remain relevant and drag herself into the new century musically.  It's painful to watch Celine struggle on the charts these days but the point is people are still wanting to hear Celine but they want to hear her do something different and more up to date. "Taking Chances", "Eyes On Me", and "Alone" were none of these things. Perhaps the remixed "Eyes On Me" could've worked but only perhaps.

So in the end, perhaps a return to Vegas is the best move for Celine. If she's not willing to take chances musically perhaps she can come up with another innovative show in Vegas to perform in for the next 20 years.

[Celinenvegas]

I doubt Celine will try and do another show like "A New Day" in Vegas, she's don it and done it well.  There's no point on trying to reclaim past glory and everyone will only compare it.  I do think she may do some shows there but not a long production show like AND.

I think TC was an edgy album for Celine to release, it's different from her previous releases.  I also think that Taking Chances was a good choice for the 1st single, but if you don't have label & radio support then it's not gonna be huge.  We know Sony has never really focused on singles with Celine, but many album sales.  They tend to do that with all their established artists.  

I think she should relax after this long tour, but you know, the dvd will come, then probably some kinda hits cd or another album.  It never ends for her, she needs a vacation!  LOL

[stevethefan]

The thing is I'm not so sure she wants to live in LV for such a long time anymore. THey built a new home in Florida which I'm assuming is where they want to start spending much of their time from now on. I can't imagine her wanting to commit to doing any kind of long term show in LV like the last time, although originally that was only supposed to be two or three years not five. I could see her doing what Cher and Bette Midler have been doing where they only do it for a few months.

The thing that will be interesting to me if she does any kind of show in LV is how long the contract would be because you know that the people at Caesars would LOVE to have her back and fill that auditorium to capacity again. They'd like to probably see her there forever so you know with her track record they would not have any issue signing her for some big long term contract. I'm not sure how Cher and Bette's attendance has been although I'm assuming it's been good.

Everything now is just speculation so we will just have to wait and see.

[Nmj]

Yes sir
-Nmj

[CelineFanInSoCal]

Shaun, on Jun 2 2008, 04:56 PM, said:

Whilst I agree with almost everything you say, especially regarding Sony, it has to be said that Celine had the biggest chance EVER to capture a new audience with the release of "Taking Chances." The music media around the world were eagerly awaiting Celine's new material upon hearing the rumours of collaborations with Snoop Dog, Timbaland and the rest. People were genuinely interested in hearing Celine's new material. Even if it was highly embarrassing in the end I guarantee it would've been played around the world out of sheer interest. Sony are sending her material to radio and TV. They just aren't playing it.

However, someone (Sony? Celine? Rene?) decided to go down the safe route and fill the album with songs which, frankly, aren't all that radical or modern. Yes, they are new and fresh for Celine but not for the music world.  They decided to go with "Taking Chances", a cover, as the lead off single and the first 90 seconds of that song would immediately give every Celine critic in the world the ammo they love to have against Celine. It offered nothing new and interesting.

No-one is expecting Celine to throw off her clothes and film sexual music videos like the other divas are now doing but what the music world (and even her fans?) wanted her to do was remain relevant and drag herself into the new century musically.  It's painful to watch Celine struggle on the charts these days but the point is people are still wanting to hear Celine but they want to hear her do something different and more up to date. "Taking Chances", "Eyes On Me", and "Alone" were none of these things. Perhaps the remixed "Eyes On Me" could've worked but only perhaps.

So in the end, perhaps a return to Vegas is the best move for Celine. If she's not willing to take chances musically perhaps she can come up with another innovative show in Vegas to perform in for the next 20 years.

I agree.  There's another thread on the forum talking about Celine's musical relevance in 2008.  The album Taking Chances really didn't do much to put Celine back on the map.  There was so much anticipation for her first studio album in years, that EVERYONE was talking about it, especially since they could link that album to the nearing of the end for A New Day... in Vegas.  GREAT news headlines, conversation pieces and interview material.  Instead, we were given the same ol song n dance routine from not only Sony, but Celine and Rene as well.  

If Celine's new album from here on out are going to be this type of non label supported fluff, then she's doing a good job of following in some of her idol's foot steps [think Barbra Streisand and the like], where soon she will limit herself to an album every 5 years or so and a couple of shows here and there, but nothing major.  Celine, Rene, Rene-Charles and maybe another kid will end up living the good life together in their palatial new home in Florida, and we won't hear from her until she's ready.  

And when she is ready, it will be some Barbara Walters exclusive interview driven with a world premier televised show and attempt to take the entertainment community by storm.  We will wait and see.  LOL

[Timster]

Nmj, on May 9 2008, 12:00 AM, said:

Deep Down I Have had a feeling that Celine knew that she might come back because there way too many songs that were way, way too popular and that never made it in the Show...Maybe waiting for a new show...
That's the Way it Is
All By Myself
Beauty and The Beast
A New Day Has Come (Radio Remix)
Taking Chances
Think Twice
Eyes on Me
Im Your Angel
You and I
*and many other songs that she never sang in vegas the first time around!!
-Nmj

I would love her to sing those songs in LV!! Especially You and I!

This is what I hope Celine will do over the next few years:

2009
Q1: Finish off TC World Tour + a few concerts in LV.
Q2: Move into house in Florida and CHILL OUT!
Q3: Get embryo implanted.
Q4: Release some sort of greatest hits album while she's pregnant.

2010
Q1: (Pregnant)
Q2: (Pregnant), start to plan second LV show
Q3: Have baby(!)
Q4: Spend time with baby + rest of family

2011
Q1: Plan new LV show @ the Colusseum (with Franco Dragone)
Q2: Start new LV show (6-7 nights a month?)
Q3: Continue with LV show, start to produce new album.
Q4: Continue with LV show, release new album

This way she will have plenty of time to chill out and recover her voice from 6 years (5 in LV + 1 Tour) of non-stop singing!! Her voice will in perfect condition for her return to LV and for a new album!

What do you think?  

[KimboCosmo]

I'll believe it when I see it, that she does return to the Colosseum...

[Nmj]

I think she will
-nmj

[Bralo20]

Nmj, on Jun 8 2008, 12:31 AM, said:

I think she will
-nmj

I'm also think that she will go back...
I even want to make a bet on it

I guess it will be somewhere in 2010 or maybe 2011 the latest when she will be back to Vegas.


Hopefully with a show directed by Franco Dragone...

[Autumn_Breeze68]

I hope she does, I've been to Vegas this past two summers and unfortunately she was off during the weeks i was there, so i never got to experience the Vegas show

[CSCfan]

She will be back in 2010

[Black Kitten]

CSCfan, on Jun 8 2008, 06:42 AM, said:

She will be back in 2010

omg! would u mind sharing ur source?

[anewdayhascome]

well i don't mind if she will come back...
but i think she should try sth different! Not do again the same thing (i mean no the same songs but the same kind of show).... she is creative and whatever she does it'll be good!

[zoea2812]

To be honest i do not mind what celine does as long as she does not retire from the music world completely. That would kill me. I hope that I do get the opportunity to see her again, no matter where in the world that may be.

[CellyDee87]

Don't really mind what she does so long as she doesn't completely disappear

[Filine]

Céline will return to Vegas starting 2010, 75 shows a year, for three years according to a close source to Céline (which I won't reveal)

Edited by Filine, 17 June 2008 - 09:35 AM.

[Andrei Dion]

I think that's ok. She and René always know the best thing to do.

[Bellamy]

75 shows a year, for three years sounds good to me. I'm glad if it really is 75 shows/year. I don't want her to exhaust herself like 200 shows/year again. 75 shows/year is like Elton's schedule. About 15 weeks in Vegas. She would have enough time to rest or do anything else she wants to do. I hope it's a completely new show, or at least most of the songs would be updated.

[Javito]

Filine, on Jun 17 2008, 05:35 PM, said:

Céline will return to Vegas starting 2010, 75 shows a year, for three years according to a close source to Céline (which I won't reveal)

Ok it is a matter of time to be confirmed soon. I feel so sorry for Céline's career, but if that's what she wants again for her family

But its better to start assuming it soon: BYE BYE Céline's career    She won't take any chance at all returning there again and nothing good will come to ressolve the situation she has with her career today, except getting worse.

Andrei Dion, on Jun 17 2008, 05:52 PM, said:

I think that's ok. She and René always know the best thing to do.

What?