"Courage" album - Official Topic

[mirage]

Think it also had to do with her name.

They not even bother to listen to the song if they see her name.

In a way radiostations force you to listen to certain music and artists, that they know is "hot" at the moment and attracts listeners and money.

 

 

And in certain ways, I really think Céline have been "cursed"with her latest songs/singles ... I mean "Taking Chances", "My love" , "Loved me back to life" were really good songs but nobody picked them, even if others had hits with the same kind of songs. Even a song like "Always be your girl" sounds quite current, when it comes to ballad. In the same timeframe, Emeli Sande had a hit with "Read about it".

[Xpresso]

If you are a singer over 40, your chances of being played on the radio are very slim... it doesn't matter who you are.

There are a few exceptions... and hopefully Céline will come up with such a great single that radios won't have a choice!!!

[melquilisboa]

Water and a flame could have been a hit if given the chance of a cool video and aggressive promotion although it's a cover, I think Cekine's take on the song is much better.

 

I nearly fell off the sofa when I heard it being played in the background of a scene in eastenders lol.

Are you kidding? Water and flame is one of Celine's weakest songs, thank god Céline didn't waste money on a video for this, no radio would ever play that song, there's nothing radiophonic about water and flame lol, we aren't in the 60s

[melquilisboa]

 

 

Well, she already has "timeless" songs, as you said. What she needs now is a Cher's 'Believe'-like music renaissance.

Exacly, she needs to reinvent herself like Cher did.....Both at 50!!!! Hmmmm

[melquilisboa]

Taking Chances,

A New Hay has come,

refuse to dance

 

still sounds good production today

 

I Surrender, The color of my love, where is the love

are timeless songs

Timeless for us fans, no one but us can name these songs (expect I Surrender because contestants usually love to sing it)

[RosieBarron]

Exacly, she needs to reinvent herself like Cher did.....Both at 50!!!! Hmmmm

 

You only reinvent yourself if there is a problem surely. If what you're doing still works don't mess with it.

[melquilisboa]

 

 

You can't compare 2 different markets. I don't know how deep you know the french market ( musically speaking) but I live in Belgium and I can tell you that Céline is the only survivor in the category "french variety" to have a hit. You can't look at the numbers. Prior to "Encore un soir" , the last "big" hit was..."Parler à mon père". haha

All the french big acts are failing , no matter how hard they try to sound current.

 

I get your point but I really don't have any idea of what a "current" song on the international market could work for Céline on a commercia level. I don't have any current example (please don't give me the Adele example...which is clearly the exception) . If I listen to the spotify top 50 ...

 

It will really take a miracle for her to conquer again the ww charts, on a single basis ( and actually, beside Titanic, she never really had a worlwide hit: some songs were very successfull on different countries). She has to come up with a current single without sounding pop trash, she has to be played by radio again, and conquer the streaming platforms in which she is very weak. That's too much.

 

And in certain ways, I really think Céline have been "cursed"with her latest songs/singles ... I mean "Taking Chances", "My love" , "Loved me back to life" were really good songs but nobody picked them, even if others had hits with the same kind of songs. Even a song like "Always be your girl" sounds quite current, when it comes to ballad. In the same timeframe, Emeli Sande had a hit with "Read about it".

 

So I don't know why people here ( and her team as well) go on with wanting up tempo songs . The new generation of ballads can be very good and successfull ( James Arthur, Sam Smith, etc...)

"I mean "Taking Chances", "My love" , "Loved me back to life" were really good songs but nobody picked them, even if others had hits with the same kind of songs." Sis, from these only LMBTL is a modern song, and THE ONLY REASON why it flopped is because they didn't make A VIDEO for the song, the 20m viewed AUDIO explains that....

 

"So I don't know why people here ( and her team as well) go on with wanting up tempo songs" BECAUSE AS AN ARTIST that's what she needs, REIVENT herself, NO ONE would ever care about her boring ballads in 2017, we are in the NEW GENERATION and CÉLINE HERSELF wants to sound modern...

The only reason why her uptempo songs flop is Ppl because they're the ones her label don't do promotion neither videos, and If LMBTL sold over 1,5m copies it was obviously because of the lead single, the rest of the album (except SLS/SYS) is really boring....Ppl make jokes about Céline albums SOUNDING THE SAME, and as a fan do you really want her to sing more and more ballads??? Are you serious????

Edited November 28, 2017 at 08:45 PM by melquilisboa

[melquilisboa]

 

"I mean "Taking Chances", "My love" , "Loved me back to life" were really good songs but nobody picked them, even if others had hits with the same kind of songs."

 

-Sis, from these only LMBTL is a modern song, and THE ONLY REASON why it flopped is because they didn't make A VIDEO for the song, the 20m viewed AUDIO explains that....

 

"So I don't know why people here ( and her team as well) go on with wanting up tempo

songs "

 

-BECAUSE AS AN ARTIST that's what she needs, REIVENT herself, NO ONE would ever care about her boring ballads in 2017, we are in the NEW GENERATION and CÉLINE HERSELF wants to sound modern...

The only reason why her uptempo songs flop is Ppl because they're the ones her label don't do promotion neither videos, and If LMBTL sold over 1,5m copies it was obviously because of the lead single, the rest of the album (except SLS/SYS) is really boring....Ppl make jokes about Céline albums SOUNDING THE SAME, and as a fan do you really want her to sing more and more ballads??? Are you serious????

[isurrender]

You really are narrow-minded.

 

So... for you all is black or white? Re-invent oneself is singing up-tempo songs if I follow you? LOL Big times

 

If LMBTL is boring... what about "Let's talk about love"? Only ballads and 2 crappy up-tempo songs! As a person defending the up tempo side of an artist, I can't believe you say LMBTL is boring beside "save your soul"...which screams "filler" all over the place and is cringe-worthy compared to what we hear nowadays.

 

Céline is seen as a ballad singer. So what? Is that a crime? If people don't like it , they are plenty of singers out there...

 

But it's completely wrong that she is seen as a singer sounding the same every time! She is a ballad singer, yes...but unlike many many many singers singing up-tempo tunes, she has never repeated the same formula in her songs. All of her ballads are different.

 

Truth is her team is stronger at finding good ballads than good up-tempos songs.

[donpi86]

"I mean "Taking Chances", "My love" , "Loved me back to life" were really good songs but nobody picked them, even if others had hits with the same kind of songs." Sis, from these only LMBTL is a modern song, and THE ONLY REASON why it flopped is because they didn't make A VIDEO for the song, the 20m viewed AUDIO explains that....

 

"So I don't know why people here ( and her team as well) go on with wanting up tempo songs" BECAUSE AS AN ARTIST that's what she needs, REIVENT herself, NO ONE would ever care about her boring ballads in 2017, we are in the NEW GENERATION and CÉLINE HERSELF wants to sound modern...

The only reason why her uptempo songs flop is Ppl because they're the ones her label don't do promotion neither videos, and If LMBTL sold over 1,5m copies it was obviously because of the lead single, the rest of the album (except SLS/SYS) is really boring....Ppl make jokes about Céline albums SOUNDING THE SAME, and as a fan do you really want her to sing more and more ballads??? Are you serious????

 

I can understand your point because you almost have 20 years old but what I can't understand is why you are a fan of Celine Dion if you want to hear Katy Perry or Taylor Swift, Demi Lovato or Selena Gomez modern sounds... Each year we have hundreds of new and young boys and girls singing empty poppy and modern songs... Celine had that time early 90's when she had to make a name of herself... now she is in another league...

It's funny and interesting how we all talk about beeing modern or current sound... because it's like talking about faith or GOD.... What is modern? The last David guetta that he sounds already outdated and repeteated? The last Justin Bieber that was completely ignored or is still "sorry" modern? Do we want a collaboration with Luis Fonsi or Daddy Yankee and a reggaeton song?? Some repeated song with Nicky Minaj? It's all of this current and modern?

Bruno Mars revisits the music from 70's and 80's and he is having a lot of recognition and success, Sam Smith last single is very similar to a 90's ballad, so it was Adele's Hello... and all of them are "current". You know what always makes you current? PERSONALITY, sincere and coherence albums in which everytime you hear them you have the certain that he/she/they are telling you their truth... something they really wants you to know.... And that's something Celine sometimes have but it's rare with this last years of "try to be like current"...

She is a 90's ballad diva and she should find a good and interesting producer to revisit that genre and find something "new" that reminds that times...

 

Now you ask why am I a fan?, just for that little moments where I see that wonderful diva like TSMGO awards performance... or when she sings Mr. Paganini... by the way (will we ever have a studio recording of this song?) Or when she just stands in front of the mic and sings recovering knowing that she doesn't need nothing else but her voice and her stage presence... because she doesn't need to show her body.. complicated dance moves or special effects.... she is in a wonderful 50's and she was Demi Lovato and Selena Gomez back in time... she doesn't need to return...

 

And no offense but SLS is the dumbest song in the album and is the type of song you can expect from the first Hannah Montana...

[CSCfan]

Céline doesn't need to "reinvent" herself, Céline needs to stay true to herself.

[CelineDionFreak]

Céline doesn't need to "reinvent" herself, Céline needs to stay true to herself.

A million times YES!

[celinesounds]

"I mean "Taking Chances", "My love" , "Loved me back to life" were really good songs but nobody picked them, even if others had hits with the same kind of songs." Sis, from these only LMBTL is a modern song, and THE ONLY REASON why it flopped is because they didn't make A VIDEO for the song, the 20m viewed AUDIO explains that....

 

"So I don't know why people here ( and her team as well) go on with wanting up tempo songs" BECAUSE AS AN ARTIST that's what she needs, REIVENT herself, NO ONE would ever care about her boring ballads in 2017, we are in the NEW GENERATION and CÉLINE HERSELF wants to sound modern...

The only reason why her uptempo songs flop is Ppl because they're the ones her label don't do promotion neither videos, and If LMBTL sold over 1,5m copies it was obviously because of the lead single, the rest of the album (except SLS/SYS) is really boring....Ppl make jokes about Céline albums SOUNDING THE SAME, and as a fan do you really want her to sing more and more ballads??? Are you serious????

 

why Radios has to pick up songs, even Celine's team doesn't care about making videos

 

do you believe radios wanted Adele or Despacito?

 

they played on the radio due the youtube views

[Xpresso]

Please, radios don't play a song because it has tons of YouTube views.

[stevo]

Record labels pay hundreds of thousands to major radio stations and then the rest pick them up as they become popular

[celinesounds]

Please, radios don't play a song because it has tons of YouTube views.

 

let's think,

 

 

and yes the number of views has influence and impact on the Radios, because the song is already popular

[Ronny83]

let's think,

 

 

and yes the number of views has influence and impact on the Radios, because the song is already popular

 

Well, I'd say no. I've never heard Gangnam Style on the radio, for instance.

[celinesounds]

Well, I'd say no. I've never heard Gangnam Style on the radio, for instance.

 

maybe you didn't heard on the radio, but the song was everywhere, party, street, ads, tv.....

[Xpresso]

That was not your point. Your point was that views on YouTube have an effect on radios (not that the song was everywhere).

[comingback]

new Billboard's All-Time Lists:

 

Greatest of All Time Billboard 200 Albums by Women

 

11 FIY

45 LTAL

 

Greatest of All Time Hot 100 Songs by Women

 

45 bYLM

 

Greatest of All Time Hot 100 Women Artists

 

31 CELINE

 

Greatest of All Time Billboard 200 Women Artists

 

7 CELINE

 

https://www.billboar...est-of-all-time

 

 

Celine will always be my No1

Edited November 30, 2017 at 07:05 PM by comingback

[Javito]

This is my point, let me introduce him. He's called "P". He's mine, and only mine. He's my point. Say hi everyone!

 

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[Katie]

new Billboard's All-Time Lists:

 

Greatest of All Time Billboard 200 Albums by Women

 

11 FIY

45 LTAL

 

Greatest of All Time Hot 100 Songs by Women

 

45 bYLM

 

Greatest of All Time Hot 100 Women Artists

 

31 CELINE

 

Greatest of All Time Billboard 200 Women Artists

 

7 CELINE

 

https://www.billboar...est-of-all-time

 

 

Celine will always be my No1

 

This chartings does not make any sense to me!

[québecflower]

This chartings does not make any sense to me!

when you see Taylor swift having 3 of of the top ten albums, it is clear that she is the greatest artist the planet earth have , or the United states, the same for many

[zuv]

when you see Taylor swift having 3 of of the top ten albums, it is clear that she is the greatest artist the planet earth have , or the United states, the same for many

Taylor Swift is only popular because of Kanye West

[melquilisboa]

 

Taylor Swift is only popular because of Kanye West

Sis Taylor outsold Kanye's career with 1 album, let's not

[DestinMg5]

Céline doesn't need to "reinvent" herself, Céline needs to stay true to herself.

 

Yes true to herself!! Everything else comes second imo

[jeje03100]

Big announcement scheduled tonight at 18h on facebook newscelinedionfr

 

On Céline's future projects

 

[browseceline]

Big announcement scheduled tonight at 18h on facebook newscelinedionfr

 

On Céline's future projects

Sounds serious...

 

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[stevo]

Uh-oh...

[Xpresso]

I think it's about the Asia tour...