This is getting serious :(

[fan2celinedion]

I really apologize, because I know I already talked about that in an other topic but it really means a lot to me and it's not something we must consider as a "random, common question and thought about Celine"

 

Well I know many people here think that I am crazy, and people will think so when they will read this but:

Why the hell doesn't she leave Sony, is there a reason that I don't know?

Can we do something? I mean I was thinking about the way Beyonce's album for exemple are promoted with a lot of singles, good videos, many re-releases with a lot of bonus tracks...

Celine's album are never promoted like that!

 

Look how many albums she sells without promotion. Thanks to promotion, she can sell more than any other singer, just as she used to! And at least, people will not think that she is dead! Yes, her DVDs are selling well but everybody think she is and no one really knows that she has released DVDs!

 

Moreover as someone said, #1 hit in France, for exemple, doesn't mean nothing as many #1 hits are unknown

so don't expect people here, to tell you about ESNRQ, they will look at you like:? She has a new album? She is not in Vegas anymore?

 

This is very frustrating, I can't help thinking about that, and I can't do like it was absolutely nothing while they are doing such a bad work for the greatest lady on earth! She doesn't deserve it!

Can't we create a petition or something? You may think I'm crazy but it is very frustrating!

 

We all know that now she is not very "into" music, because she discovered something better for her: motherhood! Moreover her husband is not young and she will have 2 new babies soon. So she needs to lean on a team who will do a good Job for her, and which is as talented as her! I hope someone will understand me and answer me.

 

This is getting serious

Edited June 6, 2010 at 09:09 AM by fan2celinedion

[Bell]

I see your point and agree but I doubt if we could do something about this. I mean, it would be great but...seems impossible to me.

[Sofie]

I agree but I also think that it seems as a very hard thing to do what did you have in mind for us to do?

[Claudette]

Celine will never leave Sony. Celine is one of Sony's biggest artists. To give you an example: they actually use Celine to advertise Sony on one of our local ''idol'' shows, not one of our local artists, but Celine. I agree with you that they don't treat her with the necessary respect she deserves and that they just use her to make money. Hell, one of Sony's employees told me over the phone that Celine pays their salaries. But I don't see her leaving them anytime soon.

[MINDY]

Well, I have one idea that we all CAN do and which is just having fun... When she releases her new album, so we just keep calling and e-mailing local and national radio-stations etc., when it´s time to wish for your fav music. That´s what I´ve done already some times Me of course can hear her songs from my purchased albums, but I just hope that everyone else in my country get to hear her new songs, too So it´s not much but still, in this country people never would hear about her new albums unless us fans making some noise. And done so worldwide, like somewhat organized, hmmmm.....would it make a difference?

[fan2celinedion]

I don't know what to do, I am heartbroken

[Claudette]

Well, I have one idea that we all CAN do and which is just having fun... When she releases her new album, so we just keep calling and e-mailing local and national radio-stations etc., when it´s time to wish for your fav music. That´s what I´ve done already some times Me of course can hear her songs from my purchased albums, but I just hope that everyone else in my country get to hear her new songs, too So it´s not much but still, in this country people never would hear about her new albums unless us fans making some noise. And done so worldwide, like somewhat organized, hmmmm.....would it make a difference?

 

I do that. Whenever there is a competition or some type of thing where you can request songs I choose Celine songs. But I have to say that we here in SA are very lucky as there are loads of radio stations that still play a lot of Celine songs everyday. I think it is because Celine is still very big here. I mean she is the biggest selling artist in SA.

[cmcdaori]

I agree with the idea, but i dont know what we can do in real.

[celinedionfan1]

They Are doing really bad with promoting Celine here in norway, not once have i heard a song from Hers on the radio. None of her dvd's parfumes etc Are being promoted. They didnt even release tteotw and tcwt!!!!!

[Jacqui]

This title made me scared a bit that something really bad was wrong. Don't we have enough threads for complaining already? Yeah, the promotion should be better and all that, but I honestly can't say I care...she still outsells most artists, and she seems happy enough.

[imaswede78]

Truthfully, I believe Celine is exactly where she wants to be. Celine is not trying to recruit new fans. How many other artists can sells albums without promotion? Yes, album sales are "only" in the low millions but how many artists would give their right arm for sales like that? If Rene hated Sony's antics Celine would be outta there. Nothing will change because this is what Celine wants!

[fan2celinedion]

Conclusion: Sony--->good Job?

What I am trying to explain is that Sony doesn't deserve an artist like her!

Yes, she sells albums but do you think it's thanks to her team?

She can be at home with her children and her husband while her team is doing what they have to do!

But they DO NOTHING!

Edited June 6, 2010 at 11:14 AM by fan2celinedion

[Sofie]

Well, I have one idea that we all CAN do and which is just having fun... When she releases her new album, so we just keep calling and e-mailing local and national radio-stations etc., when it´s time to wish for your fav music. That´s what I´ve done already some times Me of course can hear her songs from my purchased albums, but I just hope that everyone else in my country get to hear her new songs, too So it´s not much but still, in this country people never would hear about her new albums unless us fans making some noise. And done so worldwide, like somewhat organized, hmmmm.....would it make a difference?

 

Let's just leave it with that. I'm sure that in most countries they still play her sometimes, not often but still. Because she have had so many mega-hits, IA, BYLM and of course MHWGO. If we wish for songs on the radio we still make SOME noice, but we're not pushing it too far. This way also gives other people the chance to maybe hear some new songs from her, so it's a kind of promo. Like you've said, she still sells way better than most artists, and they get tons of promotion. And let's not forget the fact that she is the best-selling female artist of all time.

And no, it's not thanks to her team, it's thanks to her but I'm sure she would have left them a long time ago if she really wanted.

[fan2celinedion]

Yeah, the promotion should be better and all that, but I honestly can't say I care...she still outsells most artists, and she seems happy enough.

Of course, why would she not be happy? She does what she have to do perfectely everytime!

Remember what she did for Taking chances? She promoted her album around the world before the tour! I'm not talking about her...

 

Nothing will change because this is what Celine wants!

Do you think Celine thought about that, at least once? it's not that she wants it, it's that she doesn't know and is not interested on those kind of stuff! She trusts her team but she doesn't know how they act in reality!

[Jacqui]

Yeah...well if she doesn't care about that stuff, then I don't care either... I'm not entirely sure why you're so worried about it.

[fan2celinedion]

No sorry I'm not worried everyone knows Sony always do a great Job

[celinefan5]

I think we would all love to see Sony do more with Celine. It is strange why they don't but I think we will just have to do our part. I always give Celine cds/dvds as gifts for birthdays, Christmas etc and also call the radio station for song requests.

[ryba]

She is the best selling feemale artist. They don't need to promote her albums more than they do as people and fans will buy it anyway.

[celinefanonline]

well yes and no..

cause i do think it's not all sony's fault

it also has to do with Celine's team i think!

[fan2celinedion]

Sorry but the aim of music is not really to make money but try to touch new people again and again!

Yes she sells album but if her music isn't played on radio or on TV, what is the aim of all this, then?

Sell, sell, sell...?

Edited June 6, 2010 at 01:15 PM by fan2celinedion

[davidjag79]

This title made me scared a bit that something really bad was wrong. Don't we have enough threads for complaining already? Yeah, the promotion should be better and all that, but I honestly can't say I care...she still outsells most artists, and she seems happy enough.

 

I totally argee with you Jacqui.... The simple fact is Celine is content with where she is She has no desire to be main stream like artist such as Beyonce, Lady Ga Ga, Christina Aguilera, Brittney ect.. Celine wants to make great music for "her fans" I would like Celine to get more hype or attention but the simple fact is Celine is happy with everything in her life and career. She has taken another path for herself it is not neccessarily Sony's fault. She stills sells cd's, dvd's ect with or without much promotion. No one can deny Celine's talent that is a simple fact

[Javito]

This is the eternal question since her brilliant efforts promoting ANDHC in 2002 started to fade away. It all changed after 2002, but it was her decision.

 

Let's put it this way fan2celinedion: she doesn't care anymore about it. And I'm not inventing it, she has told this several times, each time more and more clear in this point. She and René don't care about the promotion, videoclips, singles, remixes, contents etc as they did in the 90's, but here is when "the work of the team behind her" matter comes

 

And be prepared to assume that with her new maternity, this statements will be as fresh and as valid as in 2002.

 

BUT let's make this clear. I have not any problem with Céline's attitude towars the aproach she has of her career today. I respect that she never wants to take decisions regarding what and how many singles to pick from each new album, how to promote them, how many videoclips to do, are some remixes needed here to support the single etc. BUT I DO CARE about all this aspects regarding the team behind her. And that's Sony Music Canada/USA and all those people who decide which is the first single from an album, if its going to be a third or fourth one, if a videoclip would be appropriate for this song etc.

 

They are not doing THEIR work in this point :nono: And that's what makes me mad, thats all.

 

We all know that now she is not very "into" music, because she discovered something better for her: motherhood! Moreover her husband is not young and she will have 2 new babies soon. So she needs to lean on a team who will do a good Job for her, and which is as talented as her! I hope someone will understand me and answer me.

 

This is getting serious

 

Exactly.

 

A team that bombards radios with her new singles just as they bombard us with Beyoncé, Shakira, Madonna and all those ones.

A team who cares wether to release a videoclip to support a new single or not.

A team who cares about releasing a third, fourth or even fifth single if an album deserves it because it has great songs (and we've been through many albums already thrown to the bin, since ANDHC in 2002).

 

Etc etc etc.

 

Because the question is, would Céline raise any objection to her music being played more in radios today?

 

Would Céline raise any objection if she had more than 2 singles from an english album (what they did with A New Day Has Come and Taking Chances albums is bashful)

 

Would Céline raise any objection if her team cared to remix her songs and make dance versions for them to be played on radios, discos etc, like Beyoncé's and Madonna's songs are?

 

Would Céline raise any objection if her team asked her to shoot another videoclip to support her second/third single?

 

I don't think so! Like you see, its absurd

But they just DON'T CARE. Because nobody tells Céline and René what should be done and what they should do today. They're careless about her releases once they have been released

 

Celine will never leave Sony. Celine is one of Sony's biggest artists. To give you an example: they actually use Celine to advertise Sony on one of our local ''idol'' shows, not one of our local artists, but Celine. I agree with you that they don't treat her with the necessary respect she deserves and that they just use her to make money. Hell, one of Sony's employees told me over the phone that Celine pays their salaries. But I don't see her leaving them anytime soon.

 

:blink: This proves how absurd the situation is then! Why the hell they don't promote her properly then? Don't want to earn even more money with Céline's music? Its ridiculous

 

 

Yeah, the promotion should be better and all that, but I honestly can't say I care...she still outsells most artists, and she seems happy enough.

Of course, why would she not be happy? She does what she have to do perfectely everytime!

Remember what she did for Taking chances? She promoted her album around the world before the tour! I'm not talking about her...

 

Nothing will change because this is what Celine wants!

Do you think Celine thought about that, at least once? it's not that she wants it, it's that she doesn't know and is not interested on those kind of stuff! She trusts her team but she doesn't know how they act in reality!

 

I seriously believe she has no idea about what her team does with her albums once they have been released. Where they send the singles, how much pressure and effort do they put doing that, who and when they discuss to release the second and third singles etc... I don't even imagine that they ask her these things, because she looks completely uninterested

[fan2celinedion]

I really enjoyed reading you Javito, like always!

I understand that Céline doesn't care, because she is only here to sing and she has many things to do! It's her team's work to choose single etc...

But what about her team? If Celine sells without promotion etc... WHY THE HELL DOES SHE HAVE A TEAM THEN??? IT MEANS THAT THEY ARE PAID FOR NOTHING SINCE SHE SELLS WITHOUT PROMOTION!

 

2 solutions:

-she has a team who do a great Job

or

-she sells without promotion, so her team needs to be fired!

 

That's all!

Edited June 6, 2010 at 02:23 PM by fan2celinedion

[PatrickDion22]

Well, to be fair, Celine isn't the only artist that Sony loves to neglect and toy with. That said, I find it quite frustrating that Sony, who holds Celine (or Celine's success, for that matter) to such high esteem, would be so unwilling to want to promote her in any way. The massive promo that Sony did for ANDHC in '02 was the perfect combination. However, I believe they did that because she was on hiatus and wanted the world to know she was "back" in a way....and boy did the world get the memo.

 

Also, I can understand if Sony is reluctant to have her songs play on radio stations, nowadays. Celine never was a huge singles artist, and Sony knows that. Maybe that's why they do not really care to pick good singles. I must say, that I was royally irked when they chose Alone as the second singles on TC. That was horrible, IMO.

[Bellamy]

Just tell me which record label would be better for her? I doubt anyone can get a better contract for her than Rene. I just wonder what makes you think you or anyone of us can do a better job than Rene and her manage team.

[CelineCROATIA]

i agree with you 100%..she can win the nowadays music..look what this music turned to..just fame and fortune..and Lady Gaga..what is that? We need a real diva in this music..not just a diva who lives on hits like titanic..she must be promoted!!she's amazing.. and she deserves a real singing status in World of nowadays music..

[fan2celinedion]

I don't know Bellamy, but I'm sure some people here can answer that question.

All I know is that they absolutely don't deserve such a gem! Even crappy singers are promoted better than her!

Even if she sells without any promotion, her team must keep on working and finding new ideas, THEY ARE PAID! If they think that she doesn't need any promotion to sell, then she better fire them all, because it's only waste of money! And they deserve nothing!

Edited June 6, 2010 at 03:07 PM by fan2celinedion

[Acacia]

Just tell me which record label would be better for her? I doubt anyone can get a better contract for her than Rene. I just wonder what makes you think you or anyone of us can do a better job than Rene and her manage team.

Ellen DeGeneres just started a record label, maybe Celine can sign with her

 

Sorry, I couldn't resist

[samart]

Celine has managed to stick to her true style throughout the years, while the industry kept changing. Madonna hasn't, Mariah hasn't, they changed with the vibe in the industry, that's why it was easy to promote them and get them played a lot on the radio. They tried to give people what they seemed to want (just compare "Hero" with "Touch my body"...)

 

Let's just be happy Celine isn't rapping and doing so-called R'n'B, though it would probably get her on the radio.

 

And I honestly believe there was enough promotion for the TC album. Don't try to fit Celine into mainstream culture, she's not there anymore...

[Bellamy]

Celine has managed to stick to her true style throughout the years, while the industry kept changing. Madonna hasn't, Mariah hasn't, they changed with the vibe in the industry, that's why it was easy to promote them and get them played a lot on the radio. They tried to give people what they seemed to want (just compare "Hero" with "Touch my body"...)

 

Let's just be happy Celine isn't rapping and doing so-called R'n'B, though it would probably get her on the radio.

 

And I honestly believe there was enough promotion for the TC album. Don't try to fit Celine into mainstream culture, she's not there anymore...

Completely agreed. No DJ wanna play Celine songs except AC stations, so don't expect a hot single from her anymore. SONY had even tried to pay radio stations play her songs, even that doesn't work.

 

If you really think Celine fans are the best, and can make noise to change everything. Then why she is never hot on twitter facebook... Her fans can't win Lady Gaga, Britney fans, not even lambs. Her fans are completely different from those singers fans. They are more like Barbra, Rolling Stone, U2 fans who would pay for their album, concert ticket... instead of tweet, facebook about the singer every moment.