Taking Chances World Tour DVD Pre-Release Thread Part 2 Final

[pepillo90]

I really really like it!!! I like her voice, sounds more mature, but it's still sounding great! Can't wait to hear it in HQ!

 

Isn't the image in the 02:23 really edited?

 

I can't accept rhat she finds TPOL difficult to sing today, Timster , not yet at least. Not when we have seen her in the studio singing Alone and That's Just The Woman In Me that way and doing those crazy screams everytime.

 

Other thing is that she finds hard to cope with singing TPOL day after day during AND, during the TCWT, or in the future during her new Vegas show. But then, why to come back again? Why to do it again? Or even, why to include this song again in the setlist when she has 499 more to present to the public? Thats the question

 

Why are you assuming that she will sing TPOL in Las Vegas? :sofunny:

[smw]

She could easily sing any song from her catalogue today. The problem comes from singing these incredibly vocally challenging songs day after day. It's way too straining - and she does not need to do it.

[Timster]

Why are you assuming that she will sing TPOL in Las Vegas? :sofunny:

Well it's been performed for the past 15 years, and it's one of her biggest hits.

[manu23]

She is and ALWAYS be the best!

[stevo]

OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the best thing ever! She sounds incredible!!! You can tell it's such a hard song to sing for her still, but absolutely an incredible performance. She's got it!

 

P.s everybody share it on Facebook- let's get promoting this DVD!

Edited April 15, 2010 at 06:34 PM by stevo

[pepillo90]

Why are you assuming that she will sing TPOL in Las Vegas? :sofunny:

Well it's been performed for the past 15 years, and it's one of her biggest hits.

 

i know I know... I assume that aswell

[manu23]

Is the video on youtube?

[meanttofly]

:w00t: I have no idea what they did to her voice there, it sounds quite different to her "usual voice" during the WT, but it sounds so good! :in_love:

 

 

It's a brand new recording Javito.

 

You mean a brand new recording for playback use again, or its an unique live performance in that concert?? Anyway its great to have a new version

 

I´d say this is a new studio recording for the dvd.

[JCeline85]

If you go on you tube and compare the new version of TPOL to the Vegas version it’s very different if you watch them side by side.. So we know the new version isn’t playback at least from Vegas.. And if you also look up just “Celine Dion The Power of Love Boston” and watch a video from a regular person’s recording and play them side by side they are nearly identical.. So it’s probably the actual live recording from Boston.. Which is great because the playback was getting way old..

[Timster]

I´d say this is a new studio recording for the dvd.

Yes I think so too. When the All By Myself video was released a few months ago her facial expressions during the high note looked very genuine which made me consider the possibility that in Boston and Montreal she sang these songs live under the normal playback for the DVD recording. However, after seeing this new video, it's clear that the new vocals are studio recorded and the concert footage is dubbed with it.

[Timster]

If you go on you tube and compare the new version of TPOL to the Vegas version it’s very different if you watch them side by side.. So we know the new version isn’t playback at least from Vegas.. And if you also look up just “Celine Dion The Power of Love Boston” and watch a video from a regular person’s recording and play them side by side they are nearly identical.. So it’s probably the actual live recording from Boston.. Which is great because the playback was getting way old..

 

Do you mean the audience's footage from Boston is identical to the playback? It certainly isn't the same as this new video!

[Julian]

I want the video on youtube. This current player sucks. Big time

[stevo]

If you go to the previous page, you'll see the vid on youtube

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNO6mFkjHFM...eos=kGTVFWqHLO8

Edited April 15, 2010 at 07:10 PM by stevo

[mirage]

thats what i was wondering, is this an actual live recording, or did she sang under the playback and did they record that?

[Timster]

thats what i was wondering, is this an actual live recording, or did she sang under the playback and did they record that?

 

I think she re-recorded all the playback songs (IDAN, TPOL, TC, IACBTMN, TLYM, EOM, MHWGO) in studio for the DVDs. Her facial expressions in the video don't look like she's singing it live.

[Sofie]

HQ Cover Céline Through The Eyes Of The World Deluxe Edition

only for you guys

 

 

 

Thank you!

 

And btw, her voice at the new recording of TPOL - OMG!!!!! :wub: It's been over 10 yrs and now finally a new recording...and it sounds amazing...............wonderful......

[Tyler1991]

I´d say this is a new studio recording for the dvd.

Yes I think so too. When the All By Myself video was released a few months ago her facial expressions during the high note looked very genuine which made me consider the possibility that in Boston and Montreal she sang these songs live under the normal playback for the DVD recording. However, after seeing this new video, it's clear that the new vocals are studio recorded and the concert footage is dubbed with it.

 

 

I agree with that to an extent, but not fully.

 

I agree it is probably studio, but as far as her facial expressions.... in Vegas DVD she had a lot of expressions that she would do in all the playback songs that were not in the live songs....TPOL in Vegas was filled with them. In this video, I see it, but not nearly as much as I do in TPOL.

 

For example...at 1:07 for the first "and you are my man" she does the traditional raised eye brow thing which is usually a give away...but that is really the only time we see it.

 

Another time where the eye brow thing is USUALLY (and for AND) at full force and completely crazy is in the second half of the song at about 2:10 where she sings "the feelin' that I can't go on"...in this video it looked completely natural and very real....

 

And of course in Vegas DVD for the ending note she pretty much stood there and had her mouth opened before rapidly shaking her jaw to make it look like she added vibrato.. but here at 3:07 there is not nearly as much of that, nor is she standing up completely straight (for the entire duration of the note).

 

I'm still not convinced it is live, so don't get me wrong....but if I were a regular fan, I would be MUCH more convinced with this than the Vegas DVD. (minus the lack of live feeling)..

 

http://www.popeater.ca/2010/04/15/celine-dion-interview/

[Timster]

I agree it is probably studio, but as far as her facial expressions.... in Vegas DVD she had a lot of expressions that she would do in all the playback songs that were not in the live songs....TPOL in Vegas was filled with them. In this video, I see it, but not nearly as much as I do in TPOL.

 

I agree with you Tyler. She did put more effort into the playback in Vegas. During the tour she got very lazy and just stood there showing very few signs of pain or discomfort. If it was really live she would have almost been on the floor holding the high note for that long if her 90s performances are anything to go by!

[Tyler1991]

I agree it is probably studio, but as far as her facial expressions.... in Vegas DVD she had a lot of expressions that she would do in all the playback songs that were not in the live songs....TPOL in Vegas was filled with them. In this video, I see it, but not nearly as much as I do in TPOL.

 

I agree with you Tyler. She did put more effort into the playback in Vegas. During the tour she got very lazy and just stood there showing very few signs of pain or discomfort. If it was really live she would have almost been on the floor holding the high note for that long if her 90s performances are anything to go by!

 

No, I actually think you interpret what I said in the opposite way... lol... I agree that all of her playbacks have looked lazy since 2003... but what I'm saying is.... in Vegas she added jaw movements, eye brow movements and other things that when you saw them, you immediately know it is playback. I guess it is a nervous habit she does when lipping. When she does those same notes live, those jaw movements and eye brow twitches and other things are not present... in this new TPOL video, it "looks live" because she has broken the habit of adding in all those movements which are not present in her live videos. I noticed it once compared to the about 34543 times in Vegas.

[Timster]

I agree it is probably studio, but as far as her facial expressions.... in Vegas DVD she had a lot of expressions that she would do in all the playback songs that were not in the live songs....TPOL in Vegas was filled with them. In this video, I see it, but not nearly as much as I do in TPOL.

 

I agree with you Tyler. She did put more effort into the playback in Vegas. During the tour she got very lazy and just stood there showing very few signs of pain or discomfort. If it was really live she would have almost been on the floor holding the high note for that long if her 90s performances are anything to go by!

 

No, I actually think you interpret what I said in the opposite way... lol... I agree that all of her playbacks have looked lazy since 2003... but what I'm saying is.... in Vegas she added jaw movements, eye brow movements and other things that when you saw them, you immediately know it is playback. I guess it is a nervous habit she does when lipping. When she does those same notes live, those jaw movements and eye brow twitches and other things are not present... in this new TPOL video, it "looks live" because she has broken the habit of adding in all those movements which are not present in her live videos. I noticed it once compared to the about 34543 times in Vegas.

 

Oh sorry. So you think she over-did in Vegas, I thought she wasn't doing enough on tour. The theory works both ways I guess.

 

I have a question. In the old playback were the lines "Is light years away... / Cos I'm your lady" recorded separately then put together afterwards or was it all done in one breath? I could never tell, but in the new version I think it might have been done in one take.

[mirage]

lol i think you guys are hilarious... in a good way ;-)

 

so by looking at Celine's eyebrow you know if its live or playback

you guys have tooo much time really, I hope that someday for you they will tell you whats live or not, whats studiorecorded, or whats recorded through the mic.

 

I doubt she will take the effort and time to record them again in studio, and then have the whole videoteam trying to dub it the right way so that it looks real. That the sound is the same as her mouth movements.

but then it took them 2 years to release it

 

I want audience noises

[cmcdaori]

thats what i was wondering, is this an actual live recording, or did she sang under the playback and did they record that?

 

I think she re-recorded all the playback songs (IDAN, TPOL, TC, IACBTMN, TLYM, EOM, MHWGO) in studio for the DVDs. Her facial expressions in the video don't look like she's singing it live.

 

I wouldn't say so

I´d say this is a new studio recording for the dvd.

Yes I think so too. When the All By Myself video was released a few months ago her facial expressions during the high note looked very genuine which made me consider the possibility that in Boston and Montreal she sang these songs live under the normal playback for the DVD recording. However, after seeing this new video, it's clear that the new vocals are studio recorded and the concert footage is dubbed with it.

 

 

I agree with that to an extent, but not fully.

 

I agree it is probably studio, but as far as her facial expressions.... in Vegas DVD she had a lot of expressions that she would do in all the playback songs that were not in the live songs....TPOL in Vegas was filled with them. In this video, I see it, but not nearly as much as I do in TPOL.

 

For example...at 1:07 for the first "and you are my man" she does the traditional raised eye brow thing which is usually a give away...but that is really the only time we see it.

 

Another time where the eye brow thing is USUALLY (and for AND) at full force and completely crazy is in the second half of the song at about 2:10 where she sings "the feelin' that I can't go on"...in this video it looked completely natural and very real....

 

And of course in Vegas DVD for the ending note she pretty much stood there and had her mouth opened before rapidly shaking her jaw to make it look like she added vibrato.. but here at 3:07 there is not nearly as much of that, nor is she standing up completely straight (for the entire duration of the note).

 

I'm still not convinced it is live, so don't get me wrong....but if I were a regular fan, I would be MUCH more convinced with this than the Vegas DVD. (minus the lack of live feeling)..

 

http://www.popeater.ca/2010/04/15/celine-dion-interview/

 

I dont think that she is singing it on playback,neither in Vegas.Well,i go to analyze it a bit and see.I feel confused now

Edited April 15, 2010 at 07:54 PM by cmcdaori

[artistman2007]

Well live or not we are happy that it's diff and by the the way the video is a mix between Boston and Montreal and I think both DVDs I mean boston and Montreal will be the same idea a mix between both DVDs

[JCeline85]

If you go on you tube and compare the new version of TPOL to the Vegas version it’s very different if you watch them side by side.. So we know the new version isn’t playback at least from Vegas.. And if you also look up just “Celine Dion The Power of Love Boston” and watch a video from a regular person’s recording and play them side by side they are nearly identical.. So it’s probably the actual live recording from Boston.. Which is great because the playback was getting way old..

 

Do you mean the audience's footage from Boston is identical to the playback? It certainly isn't the same as this new video!

 

yes, the audience version looks different but sounds the same to me anyway..

[Tyler1991]

I agree it is probably studio, but as far as her facial expressions.... in Vegas DVD she had a lot of expressions that she would do in all the playback songs that were not in the live songs....TPOL in Vegas was filled with them. In this video, I see it, but not nearly as much as I do in TPOL.

 

I agree with you Tyler. She did put more effort into the playback in Vegas. During the tour she got very lazy and just stood there showing very few signs of pain or discomfort. If it was really live she would have almost been on the floor holding the high note for that long if her 90s performances are anything to go by!

 

No, I actually think you interpret what I said in the opposite way... lol... I agree that all of her playbacks have looked lazy since 2003... but what I'm saying is.... in Vegas she added jaw movements, eye brow movements and other things that when you saw them, you immediately know it is playback. I guess it is a nervous habit she does when lipping. When she does those same notes live, those jaw movements and eye brow twitches and other things are not present... in this new TPOL video, it "looks live" because she has broken the habit of adding in all those movements which are not present in her live videos. I noticed it once compared to the about 34543 times in Vegas.

 

Oh sorry. So you think she over-did in Vegas, I thought she wasn't doing enough on tour. The theory works both ways I guess.

 

I have a question. In the old playback were the lines "Is light years away... / Cos I'm your lady" recorded separately then put together afterwards or was it all done in one breath? I could never tell, but in the new version I think it might have been done in one take.

 

I don't think she did enough in Vegas either. She over-did certain things, but didn't do enough of what she did in the 90's. In the 90's it all looked convincing. Whatever she did then worked...and she changed it in Vegas. The only playback in Vegas that looks convincing is I surrender. Apart from the movements being convincing, the track itself is also very convincing. It seems like it could actually be live.. so many of the tracks are way better than the studio versions that when we hear them it's just so obvious...like TLYM.... my lord! Hearing that in the Vegas DVD just sounds so out of place. I think this TPOL track is "perfect" because it's not perfect. It actually seems like something that would be heard in 2009... This track seems like the entire thing from the whispers in the morning (or cause I'm your lady...wherever the dubbing started) was done in one take and that was it.... the other seems like it was a bunch of takes taken together to get the best out of this world vocal that could possibly be made.

 

And to answer your question, I think it was one breath, one take. There isn't enough time between words for a breath, nor does it sound like there is enough time to place the two separate audios together, but it's just my opinion. I don't think it is something we can find out.

[Timster]

I doubt she will take the effort and time to record them again in studio, and then have the whole videoteam trying to dub it the right way so that it looks real. That the sound is the same as her mouth movements.

That's why I'm hoping in the future she will record a new version and lip to it, then there won't be any dubbing issues when they film future DVDs, as it will just be perfectly synched like the old playback in her previous DVDs. However she'd have to do this again for each tour/Vegas show she does as they clearly want all vocals to be different in her DVDs now.

[cmcdaori]

I agree it is probably studio, but as far as her facial expressions.... in Vegas DVD she had a lot of expressions that she would do in all the playback songs that were not in the live songs....TPOL in Vegas was filled with them. In this video, I see it, but not nearly as much as I do in TPOL.

 

I agree with you Tyler. She did put more effort into the playback in Vegas. During the tour she got very lazy and just stood there showing very few signs of pain or discomfort. If it was really live she would have almost been on the floor holding the high note for that long if her 90s performances are anything to go by!

 

No, I actually think you interpret what I said in the opposite way... lol... I agree that all of her playbacks have looked lazy since 2003... but what I'm saying is.... in Vegas she added jaw movements, eye brow movements and other things that when you saw them, you immediately know it is playback. I guess it is a nervous habit she does when lipping. When she does those same notes live, those jaw movements and eye brow twitches and other things are not present... in this new TPOL video, it "looks live" because she has broken the habit of adding in all those movements which are not present in her live videos. I noticed it once compared to the about 34543 times in Vegas.

 

Oh sorry. So you think she over-did in Vegas, I thought she wasn't doing enough on tour. The theory works both ways I guess.

 

I have a question. In the old playback were the lines "Is light years away... / Cos I'm your lady" recorded separately then put together afterwards or was it all done in one breath? I could never tell, but in the new version I think it might have been done in one take.

 

I don't think she did enough in Vegas either. She over-did certain things, but didn't do enough of what she did in the 90's. In the 90's it all looked convincing. Whatever she did then worked...and she changed it in Vegas. The only playback in Vegas that looks convincing is I surrender. Apart from the movements being convincing, the track itself is also very convincing. It seems like it could actually be live.. so many of the tracks are way better than the studio versions that when we hear them it's just so obvious...like TLYM.... my lord! Hearing that in the Vegas DVD just sounds so out of place. I think this TPOL track is "perfect" because it's not perfect. It actually seems like something that would be heard in 2009... This track seems like the entire thing from the whispers in the morning (or cause I'm your lady...wherever the dubbing started) was done in one take and that was it.... the other seems like it was a bunch of takes taken together to get the best out of this world vocal that could possibly be made.

 

And to answer your question, I think it was one breath, one take. There isn't enough time between words for a breath, nor does it sound like there is enough time to place the two separate audios together, but it's just my opinion. I don't think it is something we can find out.

 

Don't u think that this is all excess to talk about now,to go into so unimportant details?With ur stories,it seems that Celine had always sung on playback.Come on.If it's just ur opinion,keep it in silence please.This is all ridiculous now and as u said,as far as we dont know the real thing,is better to be quite,so u try to do the same

Edited April 15, 2010 at 07:59 PM by cmcdaori

[joaofilho]

I even today do not know why they take the applause that the audience does during the song, they did it on I Surrender in Vegas and now in TPOL, it is strange to see the audience make noise, palms and do not listen.

[Tyler1991]

Yeah, I agree. I've been saying the same thing for ages...I really don't mind the lipping (okay, slight lie..) but what bothers me is that the DVD is not live, nor a new track. I'd be fine if she lipped 99% of the time and did the 1 DVD show live or even if she lipped that and just created a new track and dubbed it... I don't care, something new is what I'm after, lol. And where do you hear uses of autotune in the new video? I'm not so great at hearing these things. The main thing I notice is that the word "something" is pronounced how it SHOULD be in everyday conversation, unlike the old playback where the g is removed and it's more of a softer sound....

[Timster]

Well live or not we are happy that it's diff and by the the way the video is a mix between Boston and Montreal and I think both DVDs I mean boston and Montreal will be the same idea a mix between both DVDs

I thought the video was from both cities because the stage setup changes. Sometimes there's seats all around the platform, and in other parts there's a big black area in front where the seats are only above and at the sides. It was clear from the Montreal I'm Alive clip that fans could go right up to the platform and touch Celine, I don't everyone could do that in Boston due to this obstruction.

 

Anyway, TPOL is being cut from the Montreal DVD, so this is the only version we're getting.