Celinenvegas Posted March 30, 2011 at 05:05 PM Posted March 30, 2011 at 05:05 PM Goodbyes would be perfect for the show "Goodbye's the Saddest Word"?? OMG now you really want us to CRY during the show, don't you?? Quote ~J O E Y~
Javito Posted March 30, 2011 at 06:00 PM Posted March 30, 2011 at 06:00 PM (edited) Edit 2: Sometimes I get the impression that the fans requests and complaints (call them what you want) fall on deaf ears. I mean they knew just as well as us that ''Then You Look At Me'' would have been perfect with the orchestra and they knew that the fans asked for that and still they didn't include it. Claudette, I think you can bring René 100 fans falling on their knees and begging before him to include whatever song we agree here for her concert, and he will still refuse and say "nah, a cover or a slow ballad will work better" The blindness of Céline's team with the cover thing and the "let's never listen/ask the fans" attitude has reached an astonishing level with this show. Edited March 30, 2011 at 06:01 PM by Javito Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
mirage Posted March 30, 2011 at 06:47 PM Posted March 30, 2011 at 06:47 PM how much i love the song Overjoyed with Stevie, i think it's a bit too much for the show, another hologram!?Stevie is alive so why not have him there for real? If she want to duet with an hologram then do it with dead people, makes more sense then this She names The BeeGees, Luciano Pavarotti, Frank Sinatra etc, use them in the hologram, or use Elvis! 'If I Can Dream" Quote
Claudette Posted March 30, 2011 at 08:41 PM Posted March 30, 2011 at 08:41 PM Listening to the bootlegs again and judging by some people's screams when she mentions Stevie, I think there was a few dissapointed people once she started singing. Quote http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af51/ClaudetteRobinson/esme.jpg
Kyle_Jared Posted March 30, 2011 at 11:54 PM Posted March 30, 2011 at 11:54 PM (edited) From Janet Jackson to Carrie Underwood........there are plenty of artists that engage the fans into songs they can choose for a show. I understand a show like this needs a certain repitore per say and even a set list that can't be altered too intensely, but by simply having a poll on Celine's website or through Team Celine, called "Celine: The Fan's Choice" and allow the fans to vote on ONE song. ONE FRIGGING song they would really like to hear her sing live, and then the highest votes goes in the show. Now, over the course of the show this could change quaterly or even yearly. But give us a choice, somthing like "Celine: The Fan's Choice:" Vote for: A)"Call the Man"B )"Immortality"C)"If You Asked Me To"D)"A New Day Has Come" (Radio Remix)E) "Then You Look At Me" And don't include staples like "Because you loved me" or "My Heart will go on"....those are GIVEN. Give us somthing we can vote on that we RARELY hear! Edited March 30, 2011 at 11:56 PM by Kyle_Jared Quote
Bellamy Posted March 31, 2011 at 01:01 AM Posted March 31, 2011 at 01:01 AM how much i love the song Overjoyed with Stevie, i think it's a bit too much for the show, another hologram!?Stevie is alive so why not have him there for real? If she want to duet with an hologram then do it with dead people, makes more sense then this She names The BeeGees, Luciano Pavarotti, Frank Sinatra etc, use them in the hologram, or use Elvis! 'If I Can Dream"Because they need to record many angels in 3D for the hologram. They can't simply turn any DVD of the dead people into hologram. I'm not a fan of the song or Steve Wonder. But I can understand why they want another song use hologram, because they paid a lot for the technic. Quote Please support the forum by ordering everything through our special Amazon.com link Click here. Thank you!
Tyler1991 Posted March 31, 2011 at 01:09 AM Author Posted March 31, 2011 at 01:09 AM Because they need to record many angels in 3D for the hologram. They can't simply turn any DVD of the dead people into hologram. I'm not a fan of the song or Steve Wonder. But I can understand why they want another song use hologram, because they paid a lot for the technic. They don't exactly have that option with Elvis though. But I'm not sure if hologram Elvis actually appeared on stage in idol (I know he did in the broadcast, but I don't know about live person)... Quote
SuperLove4Celine Posted March 31, 2011 at 01:11 AM Posted March 31, 2011 at 01:11 AM (edited) From Janet Jackson to Carrie Underwood........there are plenty of artists that engage the fans into songs they can choose for a show. I understand a show like this needs a certain repitore per say and even a set list that can't be altered too intensely, but by simply having a poll on Celine's website or through Team Celine, called "Celine: The Fan's Choice" and allow the fans to vote on ONE song. ONE FRIGGING song they would really like to hear her sing live, and then the highest votes goes in the show. Now, over the course of the show this could change quaterly or even yearly. But give us a choice, somthing like "Celine: The Fan's Choice:" Vote for: A)"Call the Man"B )"Immortality"C)"If You Asked Me To"D)"A New Day Has Come" (Radio Remix)E) "Then You Look At Me" And don't include staples like "Because you loved me" or "My Heart will go on"....those are GIVEN. Give us somthing we can vote on that we RARELY hear! To be honest, if they were to ever run something like this, I'd rather have it be a list full of songs Celine has NEVER performed in her entire history in the music industry. I'd have 5 choices (since 5 is her number) and they'd be something like this: 1) "If We Could Start Over"2) "Cherche encore"3) "Then You Look At Me"4) "Reveal"5) "Tous les blues sont ecrits pour toi" Edited March 31, 2011 at 01:12 AM by SuperLove4Celine Quote
Bellamy Posted March 31, 2011 at 01:16 AM Posted March 31, 2011 at 01:16 AM They don't exactly have that option with Elvis though. But I'm not sure if hologram Elvis actually appeared on stage in idol (I know he did in the broadcast, but I don't know about live person)...An Elvis impersonator was on stage with Celine, then they replaced him with Elvis image on TV. Quote Please support the forum by ordering everything through our special Amazon.com link Click here. Thank you!
smw Posted March 31, 2011 at 06:00 AM Posted March 31, 2011 at 06:00 AM I really hope Celine's in good voice when they record the CD/DVD of "Celine". Her Live releases have been not-so-great post 1999. I was listening to a bootleg of "Fever" from "A New Day…" in 2003 and her voice sounded SO MUCH BETTER than it did on the CD. Quote
Davey84 Posted March 31, 2011 at 06:46 AM Posted March 31, 2011 at 06:46 AM I wouldn't want to change a thing in the setlist!!! As it is now, it is perfect!!! Of course over a year they need to change the setlist, for herself and the orchestra and for the fans to keep it interesting... but no, as it is now, it's perfect! Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/daveyh84/incognito198701_zpsaaootxh1.jpgRick, ik hou van jou voor altijd!A New Day... has come 28/29 April & 2/3 May 07Antwerpen 13 et 14 mai,Paris 24 et 25 mai, Amsterdam 2 juinet Arras 7 juillet Chances Taken!!!How Do You Keep The Music Playing? - Celine Opening Night March 15th, March 16th
Celinenvegas Posted March 31, 2011 at 03:32 PM Posted March 31, 2011 at 03:32 PM From Janet Jackson to Carrie Underwood........there are plenty of artists that engage the fans into songs they can choose for a show. I understand a show like this needs a certain repitore per say and even a set list that can't be altered too intensely, but by simply having a poll on Celine's website or through Team Celine, called "Celine: The Fan's Choice" and allow the fans to vote on ONE song. ONE FRIGGING song they would really like to hear her sing live, and then the highest votes goes in the show. Now, over the course of the show this could change quaterly or even yearly. But give us a choice, somthing like "Celine: The Fan's Choice:" Vote for: A)"Call the Man"B )"Immortality"C)"If You Asked Me To"D)"A New Day Has Come" (Radio Remix)E) "Then You Look At Me" And don't include staples like "Because you loved me" or "My Heart will go on"....those are GIVEN. Give us somthing we can vote on that we RARELY hear! I like this idea very much. "Call The Man" would sound awesome with the orchestra along with a choir. Quote ~J O E Y~
ryba Posted March 31, 2011 at 04:27 PM Posted March 31, 2011 at 04:27 PM can you guys post the picture with Celine watching the "Then You look At Me" video? I've never seen the progam book Quote
maceta_biloxi Posted March 31, 2011 at 04:49 PM Posted March 31, 2011 at 04:49 PM I like this idea very much. "Call The Man" would sound awesome with the orchestra along with a choir. Yesterday I was watching an interview with Rene, and even though I like the setlist of the new show (after attending the show, because before the setlist seems awkward to me), he mentioned that the show was created thinking about the fans, that if the fans would choose a show for Celine that would be it, I mean half of the songs are not her songs and even though the songs are beautiful they all are very old songs that are in some way unrelatable to a younger audience. I think the show is very good but there is a huge difference between that and what Rene said that the show was created thinking about the fans... Quote Do What You Want But Harm No One http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs939.snc4/73202_10150111343007542_831827541_7586213_4279368_n.jpg...Looking Alike!?
Javito Posted April 1, 2011 at 11:13 AM Posted April 1, 2011 at 11:13 AM Yesterday I was watching an interview with Rene, and even though I like the setlist of the new show (after attending the show, because before the setlist seems awkward to me), he mentioned that the show was created thinking about the fans, that if the fans would choose a show for Celine that would be it, I mean half of the songs are not her songs and even though the songs are beautiful they all are very old songs that are in some way unrelatable to a younger audience. I think the show is very good but there is a huge difference between that and what Rene said that the show was created thinking about the fans... That's what I've been thinking all the time, René must be mocking us if he says that the show was created thinking about the fans and for the fans Whatever they could be thinking about BUT the FANS! It's one of the most hilarious comments I've ever seen coming from him! Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
SuperLove4Celine Posted April 1, 2011 at 03:37 PM Posted April 1, 2011 at 03:37 PM (edited) That's what I've been thinking all the time, René must be mocking us if he says that the show was created thinking about the fans and for the fans Whatever they could be thinking about BUT the FANS! It's one of the most hilarious comments I've ever seen coming from him! I think his comment was directed toward those casual fans who are within 10 years of his age. He surely doesn't have a grasp on what the younger generation wants. Edited April 1, 2011 at 03:37 PM by SuperLove4Celine Quote
smw Posted April 1, 2011 at 06:54 PM Posted April 1, 2011 at 06:54 PM (edited) I think his comment was directed toward those casual fans who are within 10 years of his age. He surely doesn't have a grasp on what the younger generation wants. If you're implying that "Celine" doesn't appeal to younger generations… I disagree. But I do think that both Rene and Celine are a bit disconnected from the way things work these days. They are trapped in how it all worked in the 1990s. Celine should have a stronger Youtube channel; she should be more involved with her website; she should take a few steps with technology. Soon there will be no such thing as CDs. It will all be MP3s. Edited April 1, 2011 at 06:54 PM by smw Quote
Javito Posted April 1, 2011 at 08:13 PM Posted April 1, 2011 at 08:13 PM If you're implying that "Celine" doesn't appeal to younger generations… I disagree. But I do think that both Rene and Celine are a bit disconnected from the way things work these days. They are trapped in how it all worked in the 1990s. Celine should have a stronger Youtube channel; she should be more involved with her website; she should take a few steps with technology. Soon there will be no such thing as CDs. It will all be MP3s. Not to mention that every artist has Youtube as a fundamental tool to showcase videoclips, and Celine only had ONE proper videoclip for her last album Taking Chances Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
Javito Posted April 1, 2011 at 08:20 PM Posted April 1, 2011 at 08:20 PM If you're implying that "Celine" doesn't appeal to younger generations… I disagree. But I do think that both Rene and Celine are a bit disconnected from the way things work these days. They are trapped in how it all worked in the 1990s. Celine should have a stronger Youtube channel; she should be more involved with her website; she should take a few steps with technology. Soon there will be no such thing as CDs. It will all be MP3s. Not to mention that every artist has Youtube as a fundamental tool to showcase videoclips, and Celine only had ONE proper videoclip for her last album Taking Chances If potential fans want to look in youtube for recent videoclips of Céline's music since 2003 this is what they'll find: I Drove All Night -pseudo clip- One HeartHave You Ever Been In LoveYou And ITaking ChancesEyes On Me -pseudo clip- 5 proper videoclips in 7 years of career. At least 3 videos is what an average sucessful artist presents from an album (= 3 singles), and this no matter if the single is released or not. The promotion is on the Internet today. But if we count that Céline only releases 3 singles from one of her albums today and just ONE gets a real video, the result is a little depressing Quote "Hush, now... I see a light in the sky"
SuperLove4Celine Posted April 1, 2011 at 08:36 PM Posted April 1, 2011 at 08:36 PM If you're implying that "Celine" doesn't appeal to younger generations… I disagree. But I do think that both Rene and Celine are a bit disconnected from the way things work these days. They are trapped in how it all worked in the 1990s. Celine should have a stronger Youtube channel; she should be more involved with her website; she should take a few steps with technology. Soon there will be no such thing as CDs. It will all be MP3s. That's exactly what I'm saying. "Celine" is a great show, there's no doubt about it. However, there isn't anything in the show that would really make someone in their 20s or early 30s (except us die-hard fans who fall into that age bracket) want to pick seeing that show over some of the other material on The Strip. Bring in more uptempo numbers such as "Unison," "That's The Way It Is," and "Regarde-moi" or rockier and edgier numbers such as "Tous les blues sont ecrits pour toi," "Ten Days" and "Fade Away" and you'd start seeing a much wider age demographic attending her shows. If you take a look around The Colosseum while at her shows, I'm willing to bet the majority of the people filling those seats will either be those aged 40+ or men with wives/girlfriends who have "forced" them to go with them. Quote
Miguel&Justin Posted April 1, 2011 at 09:13 PM Posted April 1, 2011 at 09:13 PM That's exactly what I'm saying. "Celine" is a great show, there's no doubt about it. However, there isn't anything in the show that would really make someone in their 20s or early 30s (except us die-hard fans who fall into that age bracket) want to pick seeing that show over some of the other material on The Strip. Bring in more uptempo numbers such as "Unison," "That's The Way It Is," and "Regarde-moi" or rockier and edgier numbers such as "Tous les blues sont ecrits pour toi," "Ten Days" and "Fade Away" and you'd start seeing a much wider age demographic attending her shows. If you take a look around The Colosseum while at her shows, I'm willing to bet the majority of the people filling those seats will either be those aged 40+ or men with wives/girlfriends who have "forced" them to go with them. im 18 and i love hearing celine sing goldfinger and at 17 and other numbers like that. Quote http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/269401_446529995393479_428549633_n.jpg
SuperLove4Celine Posted April 1, 2011 at 10:48 PM Posted April 1, 2011 at 10:48 PM im 18 and i love hearing celine sing goldfinger and at 17 and other numbers like that. You're also a member of this forum which makes you, along with myself and others, a member of the the "much more than a casual fan/Las Vegas visitor" group. I was talking about those who are in Vegas on a whim or who are making plans to go to Vegas for reasons OUTSIDE of just seeing Celine. Those individuals in the 30-year-old age group and below are much more likely to want to see other shows in Vegas instead of "Celine" due to her overwhelming number of ballads. That's my two cents. Quote
Nmj Posted April 1, 2011 at 11:47 PM Posted April 1, 2011 at 11:47 PM You're also a member of this forum which makes you, along with myself and others, a member of the the "much more than a casual fan/Las Vegas visitor" group. I was talking about those who are in Vegas on a whim or who are making plans to go to Vegas for reasons OUTSIDE of just seeing Celine. Those individuals in the 30-year-old age group and below are much more likely to want to see other shows in Vegas instead of "Celine" due to her overwhelming number of ballads. That's my two cents. I agree with you 100% always Joe. Quote
I Love You Posted April 2, 2011 at 12:14 AM Posted April 2, 2011 at 12:14 AM You're also a member of this forum which makes you, along with myself and others, a member of the the "much more than a casual fan/Las Vegas visitor" group. I was talking about those who are in Vegas on a whim or who are making plans to go to Vegas for reasons OUTSIDE of just seeing Celine. Those individuals in the 30-year-old age group and below are much more likely to want to see other shows in Vegas instead of "Celine" due to her overwhelming number of ballads. That's my two cents. I agree with you 100% Joe. Quote
Alex_Incognito Posted April 2, 2011 at 04:54 AM Posted April 2, 2011 at 04:54 AM Have my babies, Joe Quote "People pay 20-25 dollars to see you."- Céline Dion, 1990
smw Posted April 2, 2011 at 05:55 AM Posted April 2, 2011 at 05:55 AM You're also a member of this forum which makes you, along with myself and others, a member of the the "much more than a casual fan/Las Vegas visitor" group. I was talking about those who are in Vegas on a whim or who are making plans to go to Vegas for reasons OUTSIDE of just seeing Celine. Those individuals in the 30-year-old age group and below are much more likely to want to see other shows in Vegas instead of "Celine" due to her overwhelming number of ballads. That's my two cents. I agree with you to a certain degree. Yeah, we are diehard fans and can't exactly speak unbiased… Even if there are edgier, more upbeat songs in the setlist - it's still a Celine Dion show - and it's simply not going to attract the majority of people under the age of 30. The people who are going to choose to see Celine, regardless of their age, are going to walk away happily from this show. It's smart enough… It's sexy enough… And it's sophisticated enough. So, in other words, if a 25-year-old couple are in their hotel room watching all of the trailers for the shows in Vegas… and they see a "Celine" trailer with lots of ballads/a few upbeats songs VS. a "Celine" trailer with lots of upbeat songs/a few ballads, it's not going to make a difference. It's a Celine Dion show. On a completely different note… (and I've mentioned this before) I think Celine is far too removed from the mainstream media. She should make more appearances on American Idol. She should push for a GLEE episode. SHE SHOULD RECORD NEW MATERIAL AND PROPERLY PROMOTE IT! That would certainly pull in a younger crowd. Quote
SuperLove4Celine Posted April 2, 2011 at 06:01 AM Posted April 2, 2011 at 06:01 AM I agree with you to a certain degree. Yeah, we are diehard fans and can't exactly speak unbiased… Even if there are edgier, more upbeat songs in the setlist - it's still a Celine Dion show - and it's simply not going to attract the majority of people under the age of 30. The people who are going to choose to see Celine, regardless of their age, are going to walk away happily from this show. It's smart enough… It's sexy enough… And it's sophisticated enough. So, in other words, if a 25-year-old couple are in their hotel room watching all of the trailers for the shows in Vegas… and they see a "Celine" trailer with lots of ballads/a few upbeats songs VS. a "Celine" trailer with lots of upbeat songs/a few ballads, it's not going to make a difference. It's a Celine Dion show. On a completely different note… (and I've mentioned this before) I think Celine is far too removed from the mainstream media. She should make more appearances on American Idol. She should push for a GLEE episode. SHE SHOULD RECORD NEW MATERIAL AND PROPERLY PROMOTE IT! That would certainly pull in a younger crowd. I disagree. If, as you put it, a 25-year-old couple saw a preview for Celine's show and saw people up and dancing and everybody having a great time, I believe it would help sway them to buy a ticket, even if it were one of the cheap $55.00 tickets. Now if that same couple were to flip to a preview of the show and see people sitting calmly watching the same ol' ballads being performed, I highly doubt it would push them to see the show. Quote
smw Posted April 2, 2011 at 06:08 AM Posted April 2, 2011 at 06:08 AM (edited) I disagree. If, as you put it, a 25-year-old couple saw a preview for Celine's show and saw people up and dancing and everybody having a great time, I believe it would help sway them to buy a ticket, even if it were one of the cheap $55.00 tickets. Now if that same couple were to flip to a preview of the show and see people sitting calmly watching the same ol' ballads being performed, I highly doubt it would push them to see the show. No… that couple would roll their eyes because that's not what people want from Celine Dion. I've seen it time and time again. People don't want the You Shook Me All Night Longs. That's the Celine that the critics are happy to see less of with this new show. People want Celine to leave those sorts of songs to the Lady Gaga and Madonna's of the world. There are still plenty of the middle of the road songs that lift the show and give it dimension. I think this show is a step towards what will solidify Celine as one of the great entertainers of our time. She has to know her place… but still take some smart risks (as this show does, particularly with Mr Paganini). I am not a hater of upbeat Celine songs. I like a lot of them. But I don't agree that it's what the younger general public wants from her. Edited April 2, 2011 at 06:15 AM by smw Quote
SuperLove4Celine Posted April 2, 2011 at 06:13 AM Posted April 2, 2011 at 06:13 AM (edited) No… that couple would roll their eyes because that's not what people want from Celine Dion. I've seen it time and time again. People don't want the Shook Me All Night Longs. That's the Celine that the critics are happy to see less of with this new show. People want Celine to leave those sorts of songs to the Lady Gaga and Madonna's of the world. There are still plenty of the middle of the road songs that lift the show and give it dimension. I think this show is a step towards what will solidify Celine as one of the great entertainers of our time. She has to know her place… but still take some smart risks (as this show does, particularly with Mr Paganini). I am not a hater of upbeat Celine songs. I like a lot of them. But I don't agree that it's what the younger general public wants from her. "You Shook Me All Night Long" is a horrible example of the greatness Celine can do when it comes to uptempo material. And to be honest, I don't think she and Anastaica (both of whom I love) should have covered that song during "Divas Las Vegas." There are just some songs that shouldn't be touched. Now if that couple were to flip to a song like "Reveal," "Unison," "Regarde-moi," "A cause" or "When The Wrong One Loves You Right," they would see solid proof that Dion can let loose and has the ability of not being constantly tied down by songs such as "Because You Loved Me" and "The Power Of Love." Edited April 2, 2011 at 06:16 AM by SuperLove4Celine Quote
smw Posted April 2, 2011 at 06:23 AM Posted April 2, 2011 at 06:23 AM "You Shook Me All Night Long" is a horrible example of the greatness Celine can do when it comes to uptempo material. And to be honest, I don't think she and Anastaica (both of whom I love) should have covered that song during "Divas Las Vegas." There are just some songs that shouldn't be touched. Now if that couple were to flip to a song like "Reveal," "Unison," "Regarde-moi," "A cause" or "When The Wrong One Loves You Right," they would see solid proof that Dion can let loose and is not constantly tied down by songs such as "Because You Loved Me" and "The Power Of Love." Yes… I admit that You Shook Me All Night Long is one of the worst examples of an upbeat Celine performance. But it's a classic example of the kind of Celine that made the media and general public turn against her. Celine can be (as we all know) a bit over-the-top. And these sorts of songs feed that side of her. I LOVE dramatic, over-the-top Celine. With a ballad, I'll take arms in the air and chest-thumping all day long… And I think the general public can accept that as well, because through all of that movement, she's pushing out some outrageous vocals. But I tend to believe the general public would stop being so understanding once Celine breaks out the air guitar (which I guarantee would make it into that "Celine" trailer that the 25-year-old couple would see on TV, which would then make them roll their eyes and choose BEATLES LOVE). So, yes. Celine is capable of some nice, upbeat songs. But it simply is not why she is where she is today. It is certainly not why she will be talked about once she's dead. She will be remembered for the songs like the ones in "Celine". Lots of people can sing upbeat songs better than Celine Dion. But no one can sing a ballad like Celine Dion. Quote
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