Mariah Carey: Official Topic

[Black Kitten]

welcome back Nikola. glad you're here now.

[VinnyT.]

HOT 100:

 

(79) 67 MARIAH CAREY I'LL BE LOVIN' U LONG TIME

 

HOT R&B/HIP-HOP SONGS:

 

(37) 39 MARIAH CAREY I'LL BE LOVIN' U LONG TIME

[Black Kitten]

IBLULT = FLOPPOLA!

[Nikosn17]

romIt's not FLOPPOLA. It's still rising. + there are a few up-comming performances, one of which is today.

 

Billboard Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs: #39 (Last Week #37)

Billboard Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay: #39 (Last Week #37)

Billboard Hot Digital Songs: #158 (Last Week #197)

Downloads this week: 8,664 (+17%)

Total downloads: 37,353

 

'Love You Long Time' - Is The Phrase Empowering Or Insensitive?

Mariah Carey and Nick Cannon -- that's lovin' you short time, so far. "Lovin' You Long Time" well, that's another story (and Mariah's latest single).

 

But how is she using the line? And why are so many other multi-culti female singers using a phrase that some consider to be a racial and/or sexist slur? Can the meaning change over time, depending on who is using it and why?

 

"That phrase is so loaded," said performance artist Allison Roh Park. "People don't understand the history behind that."

 

"Me love you long time" -- how the phrase is typically quoted -- came into prominence with Stanley Kubrick's "Full Metal Jacket," as a Vietnamese prostitute tries to pick up Matthew Modine's character with broken English. The phrase was then popularly picked up by 2 Live Crew in the song "Me So Horny."

 

"From that point on, it became a hook," says Ryan Suda, who runs clothing company Black Lava.

 

"It's so many different kinds of slurs in one," said comedian Margaret Cho. "It's instantly putting you in the position of being a foreigner, an outsider and a sexual stereotype. It's an all-in-one combo."

 

"Asian women get exotified and hyper-sexualized to the point where it really affects our day-to-day life," Park said.

 

"A lot of times when people use phrases like that, they neglect the background," Suda said. "Like sex trafficking. So if a guy goes up to someone in a bar, and he's using that phrase, and he's imaging that scene for some reason, I'm sure they mean it as a fun thing. I don't think they mean it to be malicious. They know she's not a prostitute. But it's attached to that. It's a lot more than a simple phrase."

 

But even musicians who lifted the phrase from 2 Live Crew didn't always know they got it from a depiction of a prostitute's pickup line and sometimes wrongly assumed the rappers had coined the phrase all on their own -- and were therefore ignorant of the connotations.

 

"I first heard it in the 2 Live Crew song," said Fergie, who used the phrase in her song "London Bridge." "And then I was watching 'Full Metal Jacket,' and I'm going, 'Ohhhhhh! That's where 2 Live Crew got it. OK.' But back in the day, everybody would be saying that."

 

And they still do -- you hear it in jokes on "Family Guy" and "40-Year-Old Virgin" -- but the context keeps changing.

 

"'Love you long time' comes out of a fairly stereotypical situation, and it's recycled itself back into the culture," said playwright David Henry Hwang. "Now it's being used as an empowerment phrase, like to deny it -- 'I won't love you long time' -- or women who take the phrase and use it to assert themselves."

 

That's what Nelly Furtado was aiming to do when she put the phrase in her song "Maneater."

 

"That's such a weird song," she said. "It came from this cool, dark, powerful place which all women possess. I guess I just took that and ran with it, because that phrase just came to mind. 'Love you long time' -- it just seemed powerful for a woman to possess that much energy. All she has to say is four little words and she's got everybody eating out of the palm of her hand."

 

Mariah Carey didn't just refer to the oft-quoted line -- she built a whole song around it. But she corrects the grammar, so the connotation changes. "Female artists like to play with words," Furtado said. "Missy Elliott did that quite well with '*CENSORED*.' She started saying, 'She's a *CENSORED*, I'm a *CENSORED*.' And she owned the word. Women should be grateful to her for that. She's a modern-day feminist."

 

"It's just one of those sayings that's kind of pushed its way into our slang and our vocabulary," Fergie said. "I think it's just part of pop culture now."

 

There's a clothing line in London called "Love You Long Time" (fashion designer Katy Horwood counts Vanessa Carlton as one of her clients), but to counteract any possible negative interpretation of the use of the phrase in fashion, Suda's Black Lava clothing line sells a shirt that reads "I Will Not Love You Long Time."

 

"It's definitely one of the more popular shirts, by far," Suda said. "People, when they see it, they just laugh, like, 'Oh my god, I get this all the time! Guys come up to me in bars and they always say this line to me.'"

 

"I was walking down the street and this guy yells from his car, 'Love you long time, me love you long time,' " Cho related. "And I was so horrified. Of course he's talking to me, to the Asian woman walking down the street. And he left.

 

"I don't mind it when it's used in songs, like when women use it," Cho continued. "Fergie uses it, that doesn't bother me. But when it's shouted in the street and they don't wait to hear the response? What if I was actually going to go, 'Oh, OK'? They never stick around to hear the answer."

Source: MTV

 

 

Time is running out! Vote for Mariah for the "Choice Music: Female Artist" and "Choice Music R&B Track" (for "Bye Bye") awards at the 2008 Teen Choice Awards. Voting ends Friday, August 1st. To the right, watch the commercial FOX has been airing for the upcoming event.

 

• Since its launch on July 15, over 300 entries to date have been submitted to the Mariah Remix Contest for "I'll Be Lovin' U Long Time"! If you think you have what it takes to set the clubs off, this is your chance to add your own tracks, remix, and re-imagine "I'll Be Lovin' U Long Time" and be heard by millions of fans around the globe. Submissions are due by August 28, 11:59PM EDT.

 

• Mariah's first fragrance, "M by Mariah Carey," is now available in small .5oz bottles at Rite-Aid, Walgreens, CVC and Wal-Mart.

 

• Vote for Mariah in these polls: The Insider: "Who Has The Best Voice?", and Parade Magazine: "Who's your favorite pop singer?"

 

• V103 in Atlanta, Georgia has been playing "I Stay In Love" today. "It's blowing up the radio down here," reports Regina.

 

• Miley Cyrus lands her second No. 1 album on The Billboard 200 as Breakout bows with 371,000 U.S. copies, according to Nielsen SoundScan. That's the second-biggest sales week of the year for a female artist, following the 463,000 debut of Mariah Carey's E=MC². From Billboard.

 

• Mariah appears on Dina and Ali Lohan's Celebrity Playlists on iTunes.

Dina Lohan:

"Bye Bye" - "This song means a lot to me, especially because it talks about facing your future."

"Love Story" - "Another great song about moving on with your life."

 

Ali Lohan:

"Bye Bye" - "She is just an incredible singer, a legend to me."

 

• Who knew that labels could actually cash in on prisoners - a new demographic. Pack Central, which runs a mail order operation for about 50,000 prisoners has been doing very well especially with the release of this year's biggest albums including Lil Wayne's "The Carter III," Mariah Carey's "E=MC2," Lyfe Jennings "Life Change," Rihanna's "Good Girl Gone Bad" and Usher's "Here I Stand," which are all on the companies best sellers list. From Singersroom.

 

International

• China: Famous Hong Kong singer and Mariah fan Hins Cheung shows off his Mariah-autographed E=MC² album. As you may remember, during her promo tour in Japan in early June, Mariah received a copy of Hins' am/pm CD with a personal message: "I love you forever." Now Mariah sent him an autographed CD in return which made Hins very excited. Mariah promised to reserve the best concert tickets for Hins the next time she tours in China.

 

 

• France: "I'll Be Lovin' U Long Time" is at #19 on Hit Skyrock. Vote for the song here. Also, you can find Mariah on the cover of this month's CHOC magazine. She's with Paris Hilton & Jennifer Lopez for their "Star's Desirs."

 

• Italy: "I'll Be Lovin' U Long Time" is #5 on All Music TV this week. Vote for the video here.

 

• Philippines: Irish-born actor Pierce Brosnan "won" as governor and American singer Mariah Carey his vice governor after the Commission on Election held mock polls using automated machines in selected areas in the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao (ARMM) last Tuesday. The mock polls served as a test run of the ARMM election on August 11. Philippine Daily Inquirer.

 

• Serbia/Croatia: "I'll Be Lovin' U Long Time" premiered last night on MTV Adria and was featured on the daily show, "Top 10 at 10."

 

• Spain: According to Elizabeth Arden Spain, "Luscious Pink" will be released in the country in September. The new fragrance will be available only at El Corte Ingles department stores.

 

Fans' Corner

• Thanks to everyone who voted for MariahDailyJournal in the recently-held "Mariah Spanish Awards"! Click here to view the results in all the categories.

 

• Mariah impersonator Bianca Nunez and his friends created a home music video to Mariah's E=MC² track, "Heat." Bianca says, "We did it all with home items, nothing fancy but we made it look really fancy!" Check their video out on YouTube.

 

• Oscar has updated his site, MCODB with lots of rare pictures of Mariah that were personally taken by him.

 

• Brazilian fan Marco would like to share his nice painting of Mariah to everyone. It's created with acrylic paint on canvas. See picture on right.

 

• New Mariah fan sites: Deshawn's Mariah Carey 24/7 blog, and for our Italian friends, Gennaro's MariahCarey-Mimi forums.

 

• Mariah fan Jad has created a new gossip blog called, Operation: Gossip! Updated with up-to-the minute news on your favorite celebrities, you can also watch videos, rate pictures, discuss controversial topics, grab some custom made free messenger icons and desktop wallpapers for your use.

Source: MariahDailyJournal | Matt | Danny | Regina | Jad | Mini | Casey | Emily | Bianca | Marco | Oscar | Bojan | Mundo Mariah | Gennaro | Jack | Oualid | MariahLive | Deshawn | Curtis | Natalia

[VinnyT.]

• Italy: "I'll Be Lovin' U Long Time" is #5 on All Music TV this week. Vote for the video here.

 

 

yes but 0 effect on album sales in my country! she is Flopaiah Carey 100% here!

 

BTW in USA many radio interviews and MTV and BET appearances didnt help the single and the album sales neither!

 

let'see what Jimmy Kimmel will do

[Céline's Blues]

Jimmy Kimmel is the BEST rated USA TV ever! 400 MILIARDI telespettatori each day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FACT!

 

Album sales = +54564465464898% next week for sure!

 

HIT 4ever!

[Nikosn17]

I doubt Jimmy Kimmel will do something cause it's probably the lowest rated late show in America. They should have chosen Letterman or Jay Leno but hey. But I def think Teen Choice Awards will help... not so much for album sales but for ''I'll Be Lovin' U Long Time''.

Here are some photos from the preparation for Mariah's concert tonight:

 

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/516/29407779ph3.jpg

 

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2185/73754945sm6.jpg

[Nikosn17]

OMG

 

E=MC2 #52 on the Billboard 200.

 

I wasn't on Internet for 10 days what happened :|

[VinnyT.]

yeah from #47 to #52 this week. It happened nothing just the promo didnt work

[Prince Whiskers]

Promo is more effective if the album just got released.

[Nikosn17]

OMGGGGGGGGG

 

setlist:

I'll be loving you long time

Side effects!!!!!

That chick

Shake it off

We belong together

 

SIDE EFFECTS. I can't believe it. And they broadcasted IBLYLT and SIDE EFFECTS. Can't wait to hear them... especially Side Effects.

[Nikosn17]

She did a very intersting IBLYLT/TMB mash-up performance: I like it a lot

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6b41t_mc-medley-aug-1

[Nikosn17]

Side Effects:

http://www.dailymotion.com/geronimos87/vid...43o_mc-se-aug-1

 

Now that was awful. You can't even hear her. Background track all the time and at the end her background singer sang it all... The 2 times she tried to sing she cracked.

[Black Kitten]

Young Jeezy's a riot! LOL

 

i think Side Effects is ok. it's almost lipped, but c'mon, in her case, it's better to be safe than sorry.

[VinnyT.]

just the last part is live but with back vocals as well, you can easily hear 2 voices

[Nikosn17]

just the last part is live but with back vocals as well, you can easily hear 2 voices

 

the whole thing is live with background track. She was singing during the entire song but we just can't hear her because there are 2349032 voices in the background + the background singer. I was so happy when I found out she sang Side Effects and now I'm disappointed but at least the IBLYLT/TMB mash up is cool.

 

Mariah's performances that could sell CD's are gone a long time ago.

Edited August 1, 2008 at 09:59 AM by Nikosn17

[dj4celine]

Am I the only one who hated both the performances?? OK OK... one performance (SE) only

[Nikosn17]

Billboard Top 100 most exotic and different voices:

 

1- Ashley Tisdale

2- Amy Winehouse

3- Amy Lee

4- Tarja Turunen

5- Savannah Outen

6- JoJo

7- Ne-Yo

8- Mariah Carey

9- Kelly Clarkson

10- Hilary Duff

11- Nelly Furtado

12 - Michael Jackson

13 - Leona Lewis

14 - Cyndi Lauper

15 - Jordin Sparks

16 - Shakira

17 - Christina Aguilera

18 - Justin Timberlake

19 - BoA Kwon

20 - Rihanna

21 - Mary J.Blige

22 - Anahi

23 - Toni Braxton

24 - Sarah Brightman

25 - James Blunt

26 - Whitney Houston

27 - Beyonce

28 - Ciara

29 - John Mayer

30 - Belinda

31 - Gwen Stefani

32 - Nickelback

33 - Madonna

34 - Britney Spears

35 - Celine Dion

36 - Robbie Willians

37 - Jessica Simpson

38 - Thalia

39 - Jennifer Lopez

40 - Carrie Underwood

41 - T.Pain

42 - Katharine McPhee

43 - Brandy

44 - Chris Brown

45 - Amerie

46 - Ayumi Hamazaki

47 - Ricky Martin

48 - Simple Plan

49 - Alicia Keys

50 - Joss Stone

51 - Duffy

52 - Green Day

53 - Maite Perroni

54 - Fergie

55 - Koda Kumi

56 - Nelly

57 - Kylie Minogue

58 - Linkin Park

59 - Hayley Willians

60 - Lily Allen

61 - Chieco Kawabe

62 - Rascal Flatts

63 - Cyndi Lauper

64 - Ashlee Simpson

65 - Usher

66 - Selena Gomez

67 - Emma Lahana

68 - Jay.Z

69 - Natasha Bendingfield

70 - Demi Lovato

71 - Michelle Willians

72 - Ashanti

73 - Christina Millian

74 - Hayden Panettiere

75 - Keri Hilson

76 - Kat DeLuna

77 - T.A.T.U

78 - Colbie Caillat

79 - Lindsay Lohan

80 - Vanessa Hudgens

81 - Gorillaz

82 - Vanessa Carlton

83 - Namie Amuro

84 - Kazufumi Miyasawa

85 - Utada Hikaru

86 - Enka

87 - Enya

88 - Laura Pausini

89 - Mika Nakashima

90 - Noriko Sakai

91 - Tila Tequila

92 - Gloria Estefan

93 - Cher

94 - Jessica Sutta

95 - Mandy Moore

96 - Yuna Ito

97 - Avril Lavigne

98 - Pink

99 - Dulce Maria

100 - Miley Cyrus

 

I don't know what this is but I found it.

WTF at Madonna being in front of Celine. The whole countdown is lame actually.

[dj4celine]

Ashley Tisdale at #1 ?!?!?!

 

This is a joke, right??

 

Hilary Duff, Nelly Furtado, Jordin Sparks all ahead of Celine ...yeah, right!!

[Black Kitten]

omg why's britney in the list? it's unfair! where my Baby J! lol and what's so special about the voice of Hilary Duff, Nelly Furtado, and d'uh kylie minogue! a huge LMAO to the list!

[Bellamy]

Stupid list. I'm sure they need ear check. Who cares.

[ThisTime]

Well since they are not going for 'best voice' I can see why some of those are in a certain order but even if it's just 'exotic' I still don't see how Ashley Tisdale is at number one. Disney must have paid them for it Edited August 2, 2008 at 06:04 AM by ThisTime

[Prince Whiskers]

That list is the most stupid thing ever.

[GoldenLeaf]

Whoriah Carey at #8 ???? :blink: :blink: :blink:

There is definitely something wrong as she shouldn't even make the top 100. lmao!

[dj4celine]

Gabriel, as much as you hate Mariah and Whitney, fact will always be that those two has/had two of the best voices EVER!

 

But yes, the list is crap!

[zoea2812]

That list is rubbish

[Nikosn17]

The effect from Jimmy Kimmel is very low almost 0 but still there is a new pick on iTunes:

 

#50 on iTunes POP

 

The airplay stays at 32M for the last 3 days which is not good.

 

If ''Teen Choice Awards'' don't help nothing else would.

[Prince Whiskers]

The airplay stays at 32M for the last 3 days which is not good.

Good compared to Alone.

[Nikosn17]

The airplay stays at 32M for the last 3 days which is not good.

Good compared to Alone.

 

How's Alone airplay ?

[Prince Whiskers]

The airplay stays at 32M for the last 3 days which is not good.

Good compared to Alone.

 

How's Alone airplay ?

Virtually none. US radio has been preferring the original version.