Taking Chances World Tour DVD Pre-Release Thread Part 1

July 25, 2009 at 08:12 PM

It wasn't lipped to the CD version. It was a specially recorded track, as usual.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzO0bDpadt8

July 25, 2009 at 09:03 PM

Maybe its because it was the second (usually) song - and Celine never seems to sing live from the beginning of a concert anymore. Always 3 songs into the show :confused:

July 25, 2009 at 09:15 PM

Yep, it's funny when people comment that "more and more songs these days are lipped" when actually there is the same amount today that there was during FIY Tour, and a lesser amount today then there was during LTAL Tour. The only difference is it was less obvious back then.

That was what I've been saying all this time: She's been doing it since forever... And you are right is just more obvious today because of the internet and YouTube... As I said before: they actually mention the use of prerecorded songs in one of her books. So I don't think its suppose to be this big secret... or sin... or something...

July 25, 2009 at 09:24 PM

It wasn't lipped to the CD version. It was a specially recorded track, as usual.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzO0bDpadt8

Yes, sorry. I checked it carefully. In the line "I see us inside of each other", in the word "see", studio version has vibrato and concert version hasn't. And her voice sounds a little bit diffierent than on CD but I tought it was fault of acoustic of arena or something else :laugh: .

July 25, 2009 at 10:11 PM

Yep, it's funny when people comment that "more and more songs these days are lipped" when actually there is the same amount today that there was during FIY Tour, and a lesser amount today then there was during LTAL Tour. The only difference is it was less obvious back then.

Can someone tell me what was lipped during LTAL tour?

Thanks

July 25, 2009 at 11:14 PM

To Love You More, It's All Coming Back To Me Now, The Power Of Love (partial), Declaration Of Love, The Reason (partial??), Treat Her Like A Lady, Tell Him.

And I honestly don't know for sure, but someone said that a backing track was used for the final note in MHWGO (my heart will go on and oooooon)...but I'm not sure (watch ACDS DVD and you'll see she keeps singing with the mic down, so it's possible).

July 26, 2009 at 01:56 AM

Yep, it's funny when people comment that "more and more songs these days are lipped" when actually there is the same amount today that there was during FIY Tour, and a lesser amount today then there was during LTAL Tour. The only difference is it was less obvious back then.

That was what I've been saying all this time: She's been doing it since forever... And you are right is just more obvious today because of the internet and YouTube... As I said before: they actually mention the use of prerecorded songs in one of her books. So I don't think its suppose to be this big secret... or sin... or something...

It was mentioned in one of her books? Seriously? I never knew that. Which one and what did they say? Sounds like a pretty stupid thing to put in the book. :blink:

Edited July 26, 2009 at 01:56 AM by Lymon

July 26, 2009 at 07:15 AM

Yep, it's funny when people comment that "more and more songs these days are lipped" when actually there is the same amount today that there was during FIY Tour, and a lesser amount today then there was during LTAL Tour. The only difference is it was less obvious back then.

That was what I've been saying all this time: She's been doing it since forever... And you are right is just more obvious today because of the internet and YouTube... As I said before: they actually mention the use of prerecorded songs in one of her books. So I don't think its suppose to be this big secret... or sin... or something...

It was mentioned in one of her books? Seriously? I never knew that. Which one and what did they say? Sounds like a pretty stupid thing to put in the book.

I think it was in ''The Authorized Biography'' But I'll have to go and read it again to make sure... If I remember correctly they say something about a beep or something in her ear to tell her when the prerecorded part stars or something like that.

July 26, 2009 at 09:02 AM

To Love You More, It's All Coming Back To Me Now, The Power Of Love (partial), Declaration Of Love, The Reason (partial??), Treat Her Like A Lady, Tell Him.

And I honestly don't know for sure, but someone said that a backing track was used for the final note in MHWGO (my heart will go on and oooooon)...but I'm not sure (watch ACDS DVD and you'll see she keeps singing with the mic down, so it's possible).

I'm not sure about The Reason. Definitely wasn't playback in the early shows, watch NY, Chicago. Could have been at the later shows but some performances (e.g. Amsterdam) had really weak endings compared to other shows from the tour. For this reason I've never put it on the playback list, there's too much variation.

Stayin' Alive was never live. You Should Be Dancing was performed by the backing singers but this was never live either.

And yes, the final long "on" faded in to ensure Celine held it long enough for the most dramatic effect....it's the performance a lot of people went to the show for. It HAD to be good. The humming at the end was also on a track, probably because it's difficult to do loudly and hold it long enough, especialy after 2 hours of performing. Kinda like the TC tour where the humming was playback for most of the tour but then at the end she started doing it herself and "spicing" it up a bit.

July 26, 2009 at 09:29 AM

To Love You More, It's All Coming Back To Me Now, The Power Of Love (partial), Declaration Of Love, The Reason (partial??), Treat Her Like A Lady, Tell Him.

And I honestly don't know for sure, but someone said that a backing track was used for the final note in MHWGO (my heart will go on and oooooon)...but I'm not sure (watch ACDS DVD and you'll see she keeps singing with the mic down, so it's possible).
I'm not sure about The Reason. Definitely wasn't playback in the early shows, watch NY, Chicago. Could have been at the later shows but some performances (e.g. Amsterdam) had really weak endings compared to other shows from the tour. For this reason I've never put it on the playback list, there's too much variation.

Stayin' Alive was never live. You Should Be Dancing was performed by the backing singers but this was never live either.

And yes, the final long "on" faded in to ensure Celine held it long enough for the most dramatic effect....it's the performance a lot of people went to the show for. It HAD to be good. The humming at the end was also on a track, probably because it's difficult to do loudly and hold it long enough, especialy after 2 hours of performing. Kinda like the TC tour where the humming was playback for most of the tour but then at the end she started doing it herself and "spicing" it up a bit.

Thanks Thomas. It's certainly very interesting how they manage to do all this and make it sound perfect every time (apart from IDAN in Vienna obviously!)

July 26, 2009 at 10:09 AM

well at least prerecorded tracks were cut back then! while nowadays the live ones disappear! :doh:

I can't believe IACBTMN has been lipped for so long! that song isn't that hard! :doh: it shouldn't be on the setlist anymore, together with TLYM! -_-

July 26, 2009 at 11:34 AM

I'm 72.334% sure that If You Asked Me To was a partial track on the Falling Into You tour. BTW I find it a little funny that they cut "falling into you" off of the "falling into you" tour

I know it was to promote the cd and all but I still find it kinda ironic.

July 26, 2009 at 12:14 PM

To Love You More, It's All Coming Back To Me Now, The Power Of Love (partial), Declaration Of Love, The Reason (partial??), Treat Her Like A Lady, Tell Him.

And I honestly don't know for sure, but someone said that a backing track was used for the final note in MHWGO (my heart will go on and oooooon)...but I'm not sure (watch ACDS DVD and you'll see she keeps singing with the mic down, so it's possible).
I'm not sure about The Reason. Definitely wasn't playback in the early shows, watch NY, Chicago. Could have been at the later shows but some performances (e.g. Amsterdam) had really weak endings compared to other shows from the tour. For this reason I've never put it on the playback list, there's too much variation.

Stayin' Alive was never live. You Should Be Dancing was performed by the backing singers but this was never live either.

And yes, the final long "on" faded in to ensure Celine held it long enough for the most dramatic effect....it's the performance a lot of people went to the show for. It HAD to be good. The humming at the end was also on a track, probably because it's difficult to do loudly and hold it long enough, especialy after 2 hours of performing. Kinda like the TC tour where the humming was playback for most of the tour but then at the end she started doing it herself and "spicing" it up a bit.

Wait? So, if i understand correctly, she sang MHWGO LIVE but the last note and the humming on the LTAL tour were lipped?!?!? WTF?!?!? Wow! Celine sure had me fooled!

July 26, 2009 at 12:16 PM

well at least prerecorded tracks were cut back then! while nowadays the live ones disappear!

I can't believe IACBTMN has been lipped for so long! that song isn't that hard! it shouldn't be on the setlist anymore, together with TLYM!

What I don't understand is why Celine recorded a new playback for IACBTMN before Vegas even though she already had the LTAL tour one, and yet she she kept using the same old tracks fro TPOL and TLYM!?!

Also, I understand Misled was lipped in the D'eux/FIY tours. Was this a live track or the CD version?

Edited July 26, 2009 at 12:18 PM by ShuttleDiscovery

July 26, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Guys this topic is going seriously off topic now.....

Darren.

July 26, 2009 at 12:44 PM

To Love You More, It's All Coming Back To Me Now, The Power Of Love (partial), Declaration Of Love, The Reason (partial??), Treat Her Like A Lady, Tell Him.

Was Tell Him really lipped? Her vocals aren't the same the same as the CD in performances I've seen. :hmm:

Maybe they made a live recording of Celine's vocals, took out Celine's studio vocals from the original song, and then put in the 'live' vocals? But that seems a lot of effort just so people don't compare it to the CD version? :confused:

Edited July 26, 2009 at 12:45 PM by ShuttleDiscovery

July 26, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Before any tour starts Celine goes into the studio to record any playback tracks as necessary, Tell Him was one of them. It's identical in each concert.

And yes, we're heading off topic and Bellamy will ban us all so we should return to talking about the DVD. :thumbsup:

July 26, 2009 at 12:58 PM

well at least prerecorded tracks were cut back then! while nowadays the live ones disappear!

I can't believe IACBTMN has been lipped for so long! that song isn't that hard! it shouldn't be on the setlist anymore, together with TLYM!

What I don't understand is why Celine recorded a new playback for IACBTMN before Vegas even though she already had the LTAL tour one, and yet she she kept using the same old tracks fro TPOL and TLYM!?!

Also, I understand Misled was lipped in the D'eux/FIY tours. Was this a live track or the CD version?

...IACBTMN is the same track for the LTAL and AND and TCWT.. I am almost positive, you can tell how she pernouciates the word "this", it sounds like "thas" and she didn't do that for the FIY tour, or live at rosie or anything.

BTW the FIY IACBTMN is wierd because it's almost identical, with one difference- a word. It's so odd! Tyler showed me, and I don't know what to make of it! Hahahaha!

July 26, 2009 at 01:05 PM

Definitely wasn't the same, listen to the way she sings "there were days when the sun was so cruel" in the LTAL tour:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwvP9yxAmdU

and compare it to AND:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcHYC-DhUAQ

She screams "SO cruel" in AND and she makes the "cruel" part go all wavy with her voice on the LTAL tour.

I don't think IACBTM was playback during the LTAL tour anyway, I have lots of versions to compare and I would have picked up on it surely.

And yes, BACK ON TOPIC!

July 26, 2009 at 01:06 PM

I would still put TR in the lipped list (I think). It's definitely a poor playback recording. But the entire second half (including the attempted belted notes where she goes all ooh baby) is pretty much identical.

ANYWAY.... I'm ready for the tour DVD for a kickass performance of It's A Man's World! I'm waiting for THAT PERFORMANCe.

July 26, 2009 at 01:21 PM

I haven't read this topic for like a hundred years... :doh:

Anyway, thank you for the updates! I can't wait to get my hands on the DVD! :clap:

July 26, 2009 at 01:35 PM

Before any tour starts Celine goes into the studio to record any playback tracks as necessary, Tell Him was one of them. It's identical in each concert.

And yes, we're heading off topic and Bellamy will ban us all so we should return to talking about the DVD.

Really? In the studio? I thought she records them in rehearsals on stage so it has 'live' feel to it? :confused:

July 26, 2009 at 02:23 PM

I think we should start a new topic.

July 26, 2009 at 03:02 PM

I hope the performance of Taking Chances is taken from the first night. I think this was the first time she sang "what do you say-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay" instead of "what do you saaaaaaaa-aaaaaaaaaaay". Do you know what I mean? It livened the song up for me and I much prefered it, even such a small change.

E.g. the 2:10 mark on the first night:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hsuAnwxcJE

versus the 2:20 mark on the second:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evTraC27fVA

It's weird how such a small thing can change the song for me. lol

July 26, 2009 at 03:05 PM

I agree it sounds better and fits better

July 26, 2009 at 03:10 PM

I think we should start a new topic.

I agree. Do we already have a playback topic? :huh:

July 26, 2009 at 03:16 PM

I think we should start a new topic.

I agree. Do we already have a playback topic?

No, but I've messaged Bellamy about this today....

Being a mod, he and Vic are the only two people who have this power and say so...

But I its definatley longggggggg over due!

Darren.

July 26, 2009 at 03:22 PM

I hope the performance of Taking Chances is taken from the first night. I think this was the first time she sang "what do you say-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay" instead of "what do you saaaaaaaa-aaaaaaaaaaay". Do you know what I mean? It livened the song up for me and I much prefered it, even such a small change.

E.g. the 2:10 mark on the first night:

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="
name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="
type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

versus the 2:20 mark on the second:

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="
name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="
type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

It's weird how such a small thing can change the song for me. lol

:w00t: I totally agree Thomas! It sounds amazing, and more like the lipped part at the end:

Edit: Oh sorry I thought you meant the start of the verse. Oops!

Edited July 26, 2009 at 03:26 PM by ShuttleDiscovery

July 26, 2009 at 03:57 PM

Definitely wasn't the same, listen to the way she sings "there were days when the sun was so cruel" in the LTAL tour:

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwvP9yxAmdU&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwvP9yxAmdU&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

and compare it to AND:

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcHYC-DhUAQ&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcHYC-DhUAQ&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

She screams "SO cruel" in AND and she makes the "cruel" part go all wavy with her voice on the LTAL tour.

I don't think IACBTM was playback during the LTAL tour anyway, I have lots of versions to compare and I would have picked up on it surely.

And yes, BACK ON TOPIC!

I suppose I stand corrected, but I do stand by that they sound alot alike, especially during those moments that I meantioned!

And shuttle discovery, we don't know how she does it, so we cant say one way or the other to be honest.

July 26, 2009 at 04:12 PM

Interesting discussion. I don't get why some people seem to be so upset and want to censor people talking about the playback. Just don't read it or...if you do, let it go. You can't control what people say or think or type. Free speech - it's a great concept. Give it a try.

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