manilou Posted May 24, 2007 at 01:15 PM Posted May 24, 2007 at 01:15 PM I still don't get it. Some people here don't expect sales over 10.000-20.000? She sold 15.000 in Belgium on 1 freaky day!!!! (and there is even less promo right) BTW she's still #1 on Virginmega.fr and most Céline fans dont buy an album by downloading it. Additionally I know a lot of people from Germany who bought the album on amazon.fr and other onlinestores. That counts too right? Quote http://s03.flagcounter.com/count/idbH/bg=FFFFFF/txt=000000/border=CCCCCC/columns=6/maxflags=248/viewers=3/labels=0/.jpg
firebird Posted May 24, 2007 at 01:22 PM Posted May 24, 2007 at 01:22 PM yeahh but firebird , i wish this album would sell in it's first week like 1F4T - that album broke all sells records in the first week .Yes, sure that would be nice, but that won't change anything. I think that her tour is selling out so quick, one year in advance, that's a much better sign of how successful she still is. Quote
thevoice Posted May 24, 2007 at 01:22 PM Author Posted May 24, 2007 at 01:22 PM well she sold more than 100k from 1F4T the first week - but back then she promoted the album everywhere .now the music is much better , she looks much better but she is not in france...so the album would sell less as it seems - much less . Quote
Bellamy Posted May 24, 2007 at 01:31 PM Posted May 24, 2007 at 01:31 PM well she sold more than 100k from 1F4T the first week - but back then she promoted the album everywhere .now the music is much better , she looks much better but she is not in france...so the album would sell less as it seems - much less .She was not in France and didn't do much promo for 1F4T. Quote Please support the forum by ordering everything through our special Amazon.com link Click here. Thank you!
manilou Posted May 24, 2007 at 01:32 PM Posted May 24, 2007 at 01:32 PM Can't you just await the first figures? We will see then how much she sold. BTW It'S really not important as long as the album is good. Quote http://s03.flagcounter.com/count/idbH/bg=FFFFFF/txt=000000/border=CCCCCC/columns=6/maxflags=248/viewers=3/labels=0/.jpg
firebird Posted May 24, 2007 at 01:35 PM Posted May 24, 2007 at 01:35 PM BTW It'S really not important as long as the album is good.Sure, but the thing is, if an album is good or not, that's subjective. Sales figures at least they are objective measurement of the popularity of an album. That's the difference. So the album may be good, but is it also popular?! Quote
thevoice Posted May 24, 2007 at 01:48 PM Author Posted May 24, 2007 at 01:48 PM well she sold more than 100k from 1F4T the first week - but back then she promoted the album everywhere .now the music is much better , she looks much better but she is not in france...so the album would sell less as it seems - much less .She was not in France and didn't do much promo for 1F4T. ohhh yes she was . maybe not physically but they aired the vegas special and she taped much more interviews on tv and on radio stations unlike now . Quote
Alex_Incognito Posted May 24, 2007 at 01:51 PM Posted May 24, 2007 at 01:51 PM As good as it is bad, Celine is now one of the CLASSIC artists, like Barbra Streisand, where promotion is put on the back burner so that some boyband or awful girlband singers can be promoted for the younger kids. Celine will sell, Streisand will sell, but not as well without promotion- but they still manage to top album charts. I just worry for the day where Celine quits doing videos! She's too hot to ever stop! Quote "People pay 20-25 dollars to see you."- Céline Dion, 1990
felixwhoals Posted May 24, 2007 at 04:34 PM Posted May 24, 2007 at 04:34 PM Celine is still young. I mean she is still 39! I'm sure she still has the energy to release more albums for her fans!!! Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/felixwhoals/CelineMe.jpg So suddenly, it's clear to meThings changeOur future lies in here and nowWe live it through somehow Now the greatest rewardIs the love that I can giveI'm here for you nowFor as long as I liveYou made me who I am
amelie Posted May 24, 2007 at 05:11 PM Posted May 24, 2007 at 05:11 PM i don't care so much about first week sell records and such ...as long as it sells A LOT within 1 year lol Quote
isurrender Posted May 24, 2007 at 05:38 PM Posted May 24, 2007 at 05:38 PM well she sold more than 100k from 1F4T the first week - but back then she promoted the album everywhere .now the music is much better , she looks much better but she is not in france...so the album would sell less as it seems - much less .She was not in France and didn't do much promo for 1F4T. ohhh yes she was . maybe not physically but they aired the vegas special and she taped much more interviews on tv and on radio stations unlike now . the 1f4t Vegas special was aired 4 weeks exactly after the release of the album! And where the information about belgian sales comes from? it's impossible that she sold 15.000 copies in a day! Plus it's useless to say there was no promotion in Belgium : last week, she was in the 2 most seen shows here (tv news). More than 1,500,000 people know that she has a new album out now ! Celine is the only singer in Belgium to be aired in tv news ! It's the best promotion possible! Moreover, the song is played a lot on radios and there were a lot of radio specials over here ! Finally, she is this week on the cover of the most read magazine ! Quote
Bellamy Posted May 24, 2007 at 05:48 PM Posted May 24, 2007 at 05:48 PM the 1f4t Vegas special was aired 4 weeks exactly after the release of the album! And where the information about belgian sales comes from? it's impossible that she sold 15.000 copies in a day! Plus it's useless to say there was no promotion in Belgium : last week, she was in the 2 most seen shows here (tv news). More than 1,500,000 people know that she has a new album out now ! Celine is the only singer in Belgium to be aired in tv news ! It's the best promotion possible! Moreover, the song is played a lot on radios and there were a lot of radio specials over here ! Finally, she is this week on the cover of the most read magazine !I want to see her on TV news too. And do you have scan of the magazine? Quote Please support the forum by ordering everything through our special Amazon.com link Click here. Thank you!
Ronny83 Posted May 24, 2007 at 07:33 PM Posted May 24, 2007 at 07:33 PM And where the information about belgian sales comes from? it's impossible that she sold 15.000 copies in a day!http://www.dhnet.be/culture/musique/articl...our-celine.html Quote The Celine Dion Italian fanbase - CelineDionItalia.com
isurrender Posted May 25, 2007 at 05:38 AM Posted May 25, 2007 at 05:38 AM (edited) And where the information about belgian sales comes from? it's impossible that she sold 15.000 copies in a day!http://www.dhnet.be/culture/musique/articl...our-celine.html Well, this information isn't right! I mean it's only the amount of copies shipped to stores ! Actually, she enters the official sales charts @number 13 ( if she had sold 15.000 copies in a day, she would have been no1). It's not a bad position! Remember that only two days of sales were taken into account ( friday and saturday , last week). Edited May 25, 2007 at 05:39 AM by isurrender Quote
thevoice Posted May 25, 2007 at 06:46 AM Author Posted May 25, 2007 at 06:46 AM i hope today we'll get the official numbers from france...i'm crossing my fingers but i have a bad feeling less than 100k would be considered a flop because it's celine and it's france - with promotion or without it , it's still celine Quote
Ronny83 Posted May 25, 2007 at 08:23 AM Posted May 25, 2007 at 08:23 AM the 1f4t Vegas special was aired 4 weeks exactly after the release of the album!Yes, it was aired on November, 18th. A month later since the album was out. This time TF1 will air the TV Special earlier. Quote The Celine Dion Italian fanbase - CelineDionItalia.com
pat200 Posted May 25, 2007 at 03:06 PM Posted May 25, 2007 at 03:06 PM Check this out!!! This is amazing!!!!!!! wowwwwwwwwwww Music stores in Quebec (Canada) received 135,000 units of Celine Dion's new album in French D'elles on Tuesday, 22 May (date of the album issue in North-America). The day after, they ordered 45,000 more copies.[La Presse] Quote
pat200 Posted May 25, 2007 at 03:09 PM Posted May 25, 2007 at 03:09 PM Oh and by the way, to be fair I got this info from ukmix. Quote
thevoice Posted May 25, 2007 at 03:12 PM Author Posted May 25, 2007 at 03:12 PM i find it hard to believe that she sold so many copies there...yes the TVA special is a great promotion but shipping 135,000 copies to the stores the first day of the release? sounds unreal and if true this album breaks all records Quote
pepillo90 Posted May 25, 2007 at 03:27 PM Posted May 25, 2007 at 03:27 PM WOOOOOW!!! Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v622/pepillo90/swingit.jpg ► My Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/arts_yard/
Céline's Blues Posted May 25, 2007 at 03:28 PM Posted May 25, 2007 at 03:28 PM It will be a flop by your standard anyway, gogo so why the HELL bother even posting? I don't get that. I can already see what you will write cuzz you know the sales in France won't be good at all. Quote http://i.imgur.com/dmreJ.jpg
thevoice Posted May 25, 2007 at 04:16 PM Author Posted May 25, 2007 at 04:16 PM just stop repeating yourself all the time - u r the only one who talks about it flopping and what do u mean "my standards"? - the french media called SNRQ a flop not me : i think it's an amazing single which was not promoted enough . i hope it wont flop and i have no "standards" , celine however has - people expect her to sell and alot whether u like it or not...noone expected her to break records but selling around 100k is possible even with no promotion. Quote
Bellamy Posted May 25, 2007 at 04:43 PM Posted May 25, 2007 at 04:43 PM just stop repeating yourself all the time - u r the only one who talks about it flopping and what do u mean "my standards"? - the french media called SNRQ a flop not me : i think it's an amazing single which was not promoted enough . i hope it wont flop and i have no "standards" , celine however has - people expect her to sell and alot whether u like it or not...noone expected her to break records but selling around 100k is possible even with no promotion.A #1 is a flop? Quote Please support the forum by ordering everything through our special Amazon.com link Click here. Thank you!
rhapsodion Posted May 25, 2007 at 04:48 PM Posted May 25, 2007 at 04:48 PM (edited) As far as I know, numbers of albums shipped to record stores doesn't mean the amount that the album has been sold. It only means 135,000 units of D'elles are available in record stores for the public to purchase. And Soundscan compile their sales chart with the actual amount the album was purchased by consumer. When LTAL came out, 1 million copies of the album were shipped to record stores across Canada, and it broke all the records at that time, as the album that had the largest shippment for a release. Indeed, the album also sold 200,000+ copies in its first week, and I think it is still Canada's biggest first week sales today. (It set that record at that time, not 100% sure if anybody broke that after all these years.) But of course, we can't compare D'elles with LTAL as it is a French album, and recording industry is not the same as in 1997. So I think 135,000 units shipped (in Quebec only) is a very good number by today's standard, especially for a french album. And with the fact that they ordered 45,000 units more, should be looking good! I am confident that the album will be #1 in Canada next week, and I think she may possibly set the record for this year's biggest first week sales too, cuz right now this year's record is hold by Avril Lavigne's "The Best Damn Thing" with 63,000 copies sold. Edited May 25, 2007 at 04:51 PM by rhapsodion Quote
thevoice Posted May 25, 2007 at 06:17 PM Author Posted May 25, 2007 at 06:17 PM just stop repeating yourself all the time - u r the only one who talks about it flopping and what do u mean "my standards"? - the french media called SNRQ a flop not me : i think it's an amazing single which was not promoted enough . i hope it wont flop and i have no "standards" , celine however has - people expect her to sell and alot whether u like it or not...noone expected her to break records but selling around 100k is possible even with no promotion.A #1 is a flop? in the french media they called it a disappointment - the most important thing is the number of copies sold and not the chart position +it wasnt really a hit on radio stations . Quote
Céline's Blues Posted May 25, 2007 at 06:35 PM Posted May 25, 2007 at 06:35 PM just stop repeating yourself all the time - u r the only one who talks about it flopping and what do u mean "my standards"? - the french media called SNRQ a flop not me : i think it's an amazing single which was not promoted enough . i hope it wont flop and i have no "standards" , celine however has - people expect her to sell and alot whether u like it or not...noone expected her to break records but selling around 100k is possible even with no promotion.See, here is where you are making a mistake by bringing a typical Mariah focus into Céline's scope. Céline is by far not as much concerned with the charts and her fans along with her audience couldn't care less about them as well! Gogo, wake up, ppl don't expect her to sell - the only person who expects her to sell here is YOU, not ppl that you are speaking of! Which ppl if you please? Which ppl? Nobody would dare a person who sells 100.000 albums in today's devastating music sitation call a flop! It's you gogo and your imaginary standards which have never ever exister for Céline Dion. Never ever has anybody expected her to sell. She just did her thing as she does now. For the best or worst she is not chart freak, neither is her audience. Quote http://i.imgur.com/dmreJ.jpg
pepillo90 Posted May 25, 2007 at 06:41 PM Posted May 25, 2007 at 06:41 PM I think it's my time! For me, the charts isn't a really important thing. I want QUALITY and this album has it! For me this is the most important thing! I don't care about the opinions of each others, but of course, if the ppl buy her CD and peak a high position on the charts I like it. I don't want to say that the charts isn't important, because, of course, I want a #1, but nowadays I repeat, I want QUALITY! C'mon thevoice... Don't flop the album yet Wait... Until Monday Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v622/pepillo90/swingit.jpg ► My Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/arts_yard/
Pureceline Posted May 25, 2007 at 06:45 PM Posted May 25, 2007 at 06:45 PM I agree with the most people here. THe quality is more important, and the album is great ! Quote http://www.celinerevealed.nl/banners/revealed-sig.png My Taking Chances World Tour: 16 May: Antwerp, Belgium 2 June: Amsterdam, Holland | 15, 16, 19, 20, 23, 25 Augustus: Montreal, Canada Visit my website: www.celinerevealed.nl
pepillo90 Posted May 25, 2007 at 07:38 PM Posted May 25, 2007 at 07:38 PM A week ago, the album was relased on Poland... Maybe today/tomorrow we'll have the first info charts Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v622/pepillo90/swingit.jpg ► My Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/arts_yard/
Céline's Blues Posted May 25, 2007 at 07:43 PM Posted May 25, 2007 at 07:43 PM A week ago, the album was relased on Poland... Maybe today/tomorrow we'll have the first info chartsDon't even ask about Poland! Big flop there. I would be surprised if it enters the Top 50 at all. But now the biggest radio i Poland is promoting it so it may enter the chart NEXT week and fall off the following week. LOL Quote http://i.imgur.com/dmreJ.jpg
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