"D'Elles" - on the charts!

[julien]

I don't expect huge sell in France, the promo for d'Elles is disastrous here.

[Celinenvegas]

I guess it can change but it's only at #9 on Amazon.fr right now. It's way too early

for any permanent figures but I think it'll do well the first week.

 

Amazon.ca (canada) has a little ad on the front page under the heading "Popular Right Now"

The cd is also listed at #2 there right now. The artist Feist is #1, don't know who that is.

[thevoice]

i still think there is no way celine will not debut at no 1 in france - eventho there is almost no promotion there this time around

[Céline's Blues]

i still think there is no way celine will not debut at no 1 in france - eventho there is almost no promotion there this time around

It will be a flop in France for you, gogo, anyway. I can smell flop creeping on you to be screamed out. I can already see your post in one week here.

[thevoice]

i know it's gonna flop seb but just hushhhhh for now

it's still gonna debut at no 1

[Loup_garou]

jajaja...she's now #8, #11, & #12 on amazon.fr

[thevoice]

i think it was a huge promotional mistake to delay her tv special til june...how do people in france even know she has a new album out? is it all over the news there or they just mentioned it here and there? - very strange that she didnt record any special for the week of the release

[firebird]

Well I guess the people who are interested in her album will know about it or have it already. Nowadays a lot of promotion is done on the internet, much more than TV or radio. And the special, as it seems, has nothing to do with the album. It's a variety special.

[Céline's Blues]

i think it was a huge promotional mistake to delay her tv special til june...how do people in france even know she has a new album out? is it all over the news there or they just mentioned it here and there? - very strange that she didnt record any special for the week of the release

If she did you would have said exactly the same thing on June 9th. Circle is closed.

[thevoice]

seb u forget 1 very important fact - celine will be in france this october...if only they could keep the album alive til then...

otherwise - why coming to france in october?just for fun? - ofcours not , it's her break from vegas and she wants to promote DELLES so i just figured they'll do something to keep the album alive til then

Edited May 23, 2007 at 08:16 PM by thevoice

[Ted]

Canada will be tough this time as the talentless luke wrm wannabe metal band Linkin Park is currently storming the charts with their sand box children metal album.

 

Linkin Park came out last week. It will #1 this week. D'ELLES came out this week it has chance to top 3 if not #2 or #1.

[julien]

i think it was a huge promotional mistake to delay her tv special til june...how do people in france even know she has a new album out? is it all over the news there or they just mentioned it here and there? - very strange that she didnt record any special for the week of the release

 

Not as usual (1F4T....), but she was quite present on TV, magazine...etc..More than a "normal" artist.

The major problem is that she did a very bad bad promo. That's certainly the first time. She appeared in Fan 2 (a program for young girls who love boys band) and nothing about the album (the authors....), 50 minutes insides (nice photoshoot) but again nothing about what makes the album so special; the lyrics, the project, the authors...She did the cover of Paris Match, and almost not a word about the album : only her son.... and so on... Finally 7 à 8 which was quite interesting but Celine appeared very nervous, strange...And nothing special AGAIN about the album...

 

That's very strange because in Quebec...All is concentrated on what makes the album different, special, and thus why the general public could find an interest in buying an album of Celine Dion : the project of the authors, the women, the lyrics.... The special TVA is certainly the most brillant and clever show she ever made. Here in France : almost nothing : for a lot of people, it is a classic album, whith a first single : SNRQ which was not so well welcomed by the general public and since this, she is nowhere on the radio...

 

That's it !

[thevoice]

so sad

SNRQ is her best first single ever and as u said this album IS a classic but as always celine is working with no record label and that's the result

[manilou]

If everything is soo bad, why did she sell 15.000 copies on the first day in Belgium. Is the promo there better?

[firebird]

Not as usual (1F4T....), but she was quite present on TV, magazine...etc..More than a "normal" artist.

The major problem is that she did a very bad bad promo. That's certainly the first time. She appeared in Fan 2 (a program for young girls who love boys band) and nothing about the album (the authors....), 50 minutes insides (nice photoshoot) but again nothing about what makes the album so special; the lyrics, the project, the authors...She did the cover of Paris Match, and almost not a word about the album : only her son.... and so on... Finally 7 à 8 which was quite interesting but Celine appeared very nervous, strange...And nothing special AGAIN about the album...

Yes, but that's how she wants it. You can notice from the things she said at the press conference or at the Fréquence Libre interview, she isn't really interested in all the promotion. She rather talks about how she doesn't want to cut her son's hair. That's why no serious French music magazine will write about her album. Paris Match etc, they love those stories about family, about hair, about motherhood.

The best would be to do some live performances of the new songs, something like Zacoustics or Taratata

[julien]

The best would be to do some live performances of the new songs, something like Zacoustics or Taratata

 

Of course ! It would be the best.

 

But when we do this kind of album, we should be able to concentrate everything on what makes the album different from the others. If in Quebec they are able to do this, it should be the same in France. If Paris Match wants to speak about motherhood, then choose the magazine Platine in order to speak about the album, the authors. For 1F4T, everything was concentrated about the group spirit of the album...For France, she won't promote d'Elles as you have to know that the special TF1 will be for her 25th anniverssary (don't ask me whay, I don't know)...They almost haven't spoken about the album, of course nothing about the authors...Just some live performances with cheap artists... And d'Elles will only be promoted with a playback of A cause and Immensité. That's a shame. I don't understand. I know that TF1 wanted to have some fashion knew french artists, I know that you can't do a variety show by speaking to much about lyrics, authors... But it's more or less the same thing in all the countries.

[thevoice]

now she is at 9 and 10 on amazon france , it's not a big hit there but i truely think it's not an indication in the case of celine...most of the people r buying her records in music stores...alot of mamas will buy this CD and they wont do it on amazon

[René 2]

now she is at 9 and 10 on amazon france , it's not a big hit there but i truely think it's not an indication in the case of celine...most of the people r buying her records in music stores...alot of mamas will buy this CD and they wont do it on amazon

 

[sayyed]

be optimistic... I mean.. she's CELINE DION!

[stevo]

And I don't think we give enough credit to SNRQ in France- it was number 1. So that in itself is promo for the album. Most of the time you know what's number 1 and therefore are aware of that artist. All will be well children

[thevoice]

the fact that we havent heard indications and first numbers from france is a bit strange...it probably means that the sales r not that impressive - still she should debut at no 1!!!

[firebird]

For 1F4T, everything was concentrated about the group spirit of the album...For France, she won't promote d'Elles as you have to know that the special TF1 will be for her 25th anniverssary

The promo for 1F4T maybe concentrated on the group spirit, but I always thought it was fake, so fake. As soon as the French cameras where turned off, Celine stopped pretending to be the French acoustic-rock chick who sings with four guys and wants to have a tour with them and continued her Diva of Las Vegas megalomania.

Now the promo of D'elles is maybe more real. Showcase her as the diva, the woman who she is. She isn't that nice little singer anymore who jams on the guitar with Jean Jacques Goldman. She fills the Colloseum every night. Actually sometimes she's a bit in the clouds even. So this whole TF1 special kind of corresponds with who she is now

 

 

alot of mamas will buy this CD and they wont do it on amazon

[Teodora]

i think it was a huge promotional mistake to delay her tv special til june...how do people in france even know she has a new album out? is it all over the news there or they just mentioned it here and there? - very strange that she didnt record any special for the week of the release

What about all the ads for her concerts? I thought those were all over the place, and they do mention her album coming out. The way I see it, concerts at Bercy are selling like crazy, it's likely people that bought tickets will also buy the album, so that's a few thousands of people right there. It doesn't take that much for an album to be no. 1 in France, is it? I think about 10,000 copies would do it... I don't know... Then again, judging from what the French buy nowadays, nothing would come as a surprize. Would be nice if D'elles would reach no.1, though. On the other hand, I don't know how important selling CDs is for her and the team right now. I'm sure that moneywise the concerts bring in the biggest amount. And I haven't read a bad critic yet... I mean, of course, there are those Quebec media people that made it their life job to pick on Celine, but even they didn't say really bad things about D'elles. I guess that's a good sign.

[celinefanonline]

well after the TF1 special that will show in june i believe the sell of this album will increase alot

[raymondedwin]

all charts are updated weekly. there is no way to tell which position she will be in album sales until next week. i agree that most people who buy albums do not buy them online.

[julien]

For 1F4T, everything was concentrated about the group spirit of the album...For France, she won't promote d'Elles as you have to know that the special TF1 will be for her 25th anniverssary

The promo for 1F4T maybe concentrated on the group spirit, but I always thought it was fake, so fake. As soon as the French cameras where turned off, Celine stopped pretending to be the French acoustic-rock chick who sings with four guys and wants to have a tour with them and continued her Diva of Las Vegas megalomania.

Now the promo of D'elles is maybe more real. Showcase her as the diva, the woman who she is. She isn't that nice little singer anymore who jams on the guitar with Jean Jacques Goldman. She fills the Colloseum every night. Actually sometimes she's a bit in the clouds even. So this whole TF1 special kind of corresponds with who she is now

 

 

alot of mamas will buy this CD and they wont do it on amazon

 

In a marketing way, the promo for 1F4T was good. I mean, who cares if the album was not totally so group rockish spirit ? The goal was to sell a new image of Celine, a new atractive image. It was time to change her image and sell this new image. It's totally the same for d'Elles : the goal is to attract a new target group, which initially was not so much into the popular, french variety image of Celine. Particularly after the lyrics of TLS or JNVOP... If they oriented her to those well known authors, it's for marketing reasons: attract new customers... Touch a more intellectual public. In this way, the promo for the Quebec was totally coherent and brillant. And it works ! Where is the coherence in France where the album is not presented at all, or just like a classic album...Between cheap R'nB artists... ?

[julien]

all charts are updated weekly. there is no way to tell which position she will be in album sales until next week. i agree that most people who buy albums do not buy them online.

 

One day after the launch of 1F4T, 2 days after the best of...We already knew the sells as she made new records ! That's almost the first time that we habe nothing in France.

[thevoice]

exactly . probably because the sales r pretty poor even if she makes it to no 1

[firebird]

In a marketing way, the promo for 1F4T was good. I mean, who cares if the album was not totally so group rockish spirit ? The goal was to sell a new image of Celine, a new atractive image. It was time to change her image and sell this new image.

Yes, but I think the people understood very quickly that this "image" was fake. I'm not talking about the album, but the promotion. Celine pretended to be someone she isn't and I think people were aware of that. I think what she's doing now, this big events, talking about her son all day long, play the big diva who shows those cheap artists à la Laam and Garou who the boss is. I mean that's much more her than the girl who does this road trip through the Vegas desert and sleeps in cheap motel with 4 guys. I know I wish she had something else to offer than that, but that's not her, so you can rather have her be honest and be self-concious about the fact that she is an international diva, or the fake "je suis de chez vous, mes ami francais" attitude.

[thevoice]

yeahh but firebird , i wish this album would sell in it's first week like 1F4T - that album broke all sells records in the first week .