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[Celcool]

Bellamy, on Jun 23 2008, 07:42 PM, said:

Well said Bralo20 and Filine. I've said 99% of the negative comments come from the fans who had never seen the show.  

Have you ever thought that not every Celine fan can afford to see her in Las Vegas? That statement was very rude of you if I may say.  

I personally don't want her to come back to Colloseum, it's too far and too expensive for fans.
Why not have regular shows somewhere in Europe for a change? Even tickets for her current tour are way overpriced if I tell you how I think honestly. But to also pay for a trip around the world?   It's like only rich people are worthy of seeing and hearing Celine live.   Others like Madonna and Tina Turner who are also legends have their tickets way cheaper. I'm not in the least sorry for the money I paid to see her live recently but I would never give so much money for any other singer, ever. It's too expensive. Who decides on the prices anyway? The organizer, Rene or both? If it's Rene then it's horrible because it's not like he hasn't made a fortune  by making her perform in Vegas for 5 years.

I'm critisizing the concert prices a bit but that doesn't mean that I'm not one of her biggest fans, just for the record.

[Bellamy]

Celcool, on Jun 27 2008, 11:15 PM, said:

Bellamy, on Jun 23 2008, 07:42 PM, said:

Well said Bralo20 and Filine. I've said 99% of the negative comments come from the fans who had never seen the show.  

Have you ever thought that not every Celine fan can afford to see her in Las Vegas? That statement was very rude of you if I may say.  

I personally don't want her to come back to Colloseum, it's too far and too expensive for fans.
Why not have regular shows somewhere in Europe for a change? Even tickets for her current tour are way overpriced if I tell you how I think honestly. But to also pay for a trip around the world?   It's like only rich people are worthy of seeing and hearing Celine live.   Others like Madonna and Tina Turner who are also legends have their tickets way cheaper. I'm not in the least sorry for the money I paid to see her live recently but I would never give so much money for any other singer, ever. It's too expensive. Who decides on the prices anyway? The organizer, Rene or both? If it's Rene then it's horrible because it's not like he hasn't made a fortune  by making her perform in Vegas for 5 years.

I'm critisizing the concert prices a bit but that doesn't mean that I'm not one of her biggest fans, just for the record.

No. I'm not talking about fans can't afford it. I'm talking about those who can't go there, but being bitter just because they can't go. Even when I had never seen Celine before I feel happy for everyone who can see it, and never being so bitter.

And Madonna or even Tina is not cheaper. I've checked their ticket prices, they're at the same level as Celine. Not to mention Barbra who demands much more. And I'm not rich, nor coming from a rich country, but I save penny to make my dream come true.

[Davey84]

well I've seen the show, and I also save money to go to her concerts, but I am negative about another vegas run, cos I don't want céline to end up as a caricature  of herself, like Elvis!

MAYBE another vegas run would be good, IF it's like Elton's run, but I want Céline to take a rest after this tour and not throw herself into another concert run! and try to conceive a second child!

[SensationalCeline]

I think that many people (including myself) would be thrilled if she came back to Vegas.  This was definetley a highlight of her career and this is what drew many people to come to Vegas just for Celine.  I think that it would be amazing if she came back and she did say in an interview with people magazine in the december 3rd issue that they were keeping the house in Vegas and the memories so I think that it would be a thrill for her and her family to return there too no matter for how many days it would be.  Right now with the tour, I think after this she should take some time off for herself and then she could possibly give Rene-Charles another brother or sister.  Even though this might mean that she be gone for however so many years, I would be happy for her and if in a year we found out that she is pregnant, I would pray for her and hope that everything goes the way she plans.  If not, then she should still take some time off and then return back to Vegas when she feel she is ready to sing again.

[Soloni]

i really hope that she does go back to vegas and makes another show

[Black Kitten]

Davey84, on Jun 27 2008, 04:26 PM, said:

well I've seen the show, and I also save money to go to her concerts, but I am negative about another vegas run, cos I don't want céline to end up as a caricature  of herself, like Elvis!

MAYBE another vegas run would be good, IF it's like Elton's run, but I want Céline to take a rest after this tour and not throw herself into another concert run! and try to conceive a second child!

couldn't agree with u more. it's more believable coming from a fan (as you) who watched the show and hoping that she'll never do that again. number 1,  for herself, and number 2, for her carreer.

[Nmj]

yes

[zoea2812]

I dont care where Celine performs next whether it be in las Vegas or in europe as long as she is happy and putting herself first then i will go wherever necessary to see her and support her.

[Celcool]

Bellamy, on Jun 27 2008, 10:43 PM, said:

No. I'm not talking about fans can't afford it. I'm talking about those who can't go there, but being bitter just because they can't go. Even when I had never seen Celine before I feel happy for everyone who can see it, and never being so bitter.

And Madonna or even Tina is not cheaper. I've checked their ticket prices, they're at the same level as Celine. Not to mention Barbra who demands much more. And I'm not rich, nor coming from a rich country, but I save penny to make my dream come true.

I don't know about the bitter part but they usually can't go because they can't afford it, I'd think. I just didn't like your use of that particular smiley added to what you said.

I never felt that way either. I was waiting patiently for my chance to finally see her but have to say that right now I don't regret not seeing her in Vegas, I prefer having seen her on tour.  

I was checking the prices for Madonna and Turner concerts with the agency I bought the Celine tickets from and they're cheaper. I guess it all depends which seats they secure in advance for Slovene audience. I see now that Madonna tickets for Germany cost about the same (1st category). The standing tickets are always cheaper but where do you stand is the question, behind everybody who's seating? Than that's not good enough for me even though I wanted to stand throughout the entire Celine concert. So, you're right about the prices.

Okay, you're not rich but is it fair for all these already rich singers to take such amounts of money from poor fans? For me, it would be more logical for the ticket prices to be cheaper when the artists are performing in a stadium, I mean, they can get so many people in there and make a lot of money either way. Maybe the Munich stadium wouldn't be more than half empty if the tickets were cheaper. You don't get to see much of her when you're in 2nd category seats or worse anyway because it's a huge place so why charge so much money to fans?

Now I make my peace with it and stop complaining about the prices, you'll all be happy to hear.  

Edited by Celcool, 29 June 2008 - 09:16 AM.

[Nmj]

I Hope she goes back for ten years!
just kidding but 1 0r 2 years would be ok
-Nmj

[Bralo20]

Celcool, on Jun 29 2008, 05:16 PM, said:

I was checking the prices for Madonna and Turner concerts with the agency I bought the Celine tickets from and they're cheaper. I guess it all depends which seats they secure in advance for Slovene audience. I see now that Madonna tickets for Germany cost about the same (1st category). The standing tickets are always cheaper but where do you stand is the question, behind everybody who's seating? Than that's not good enough for me even though I wanted to stand throughout the entire Celine concert. So, you're right about the prices.

Okay, you're not rich but is it fair for all these already rich singers to take such amounts of money from poor fans? For me, it would be more logical for the ticket prices to be cheaper when the artists are performing in a stadium, I mean, they can get so many people in there and make a lot of money either way. Maybe the Munich stadium wouldn't be more than half empty if the tickets were cheaper. You don't get to see much of her when you're in 2nd category seats or worse anyway because it's a huge place so why charge so much money to fans?

Now I make my peace with it and stop complaining about the prices, you'll all be happy to hear.  

Ticketprices are being set by some certain rules...  First it is the artist and management tha

[Bralo20]

The correct post (I hit the submit button by accident and unfortunately I wasn't able to edit my message in time):

Celcool, on Jun 29 2008, 05:16 PM, said:

I was checking the prices for Madonna and Turner concerts with the agency I bought the Celine tickets from and they're cheaper. I guess it all depends which seats they secure in advance for Slovene audience. I see now that Madonna tickets for Germany cost about the same (1st category). The standing tickets are always cheaper but where do you stand is the question, behind everybody who's seating? Than that's not good enough for me even though I wanted to stand throughout the entire Celine concert. So, you're right about the prices.

Okay, you're not rich but is it fair for all these already rich singers to take such amounts of money from poor fans? For me, it would be more logical for the ticket prices to be cheaper when the artists are performing in a stadium, I mean, they can get so many people in there and make a lot of money either way. Maybe the Munich stadium wouldn't be more than half empty if the tickets were cheaper. You don't get to see much of her when you're in 2nd category seats or worse anyway because it's a huge place so why charge so much money to fans?

Now I make my peace with it and stop complaining about the prices, you'll all be happy to hear.  

Ticketprices are being set by some certain rules...  First it is the artist and management that say to a promotor what they desire...  It's compared to what a promoter can offer.  What is the minimum number of people that are requiered to perform for?  What is the maximum number of people she will perform to on one night?  What's the fee that needs to be paid for start?  Where does she wants to stay, etc...  The promotor must decide what the potential is for the event.  How many people does he think will attend to the show?  Is the promotor prefering a rather small place with higher prices or will he chose a larger place (for example a stadium) and lower rates?  A costs / benefit sheet will be made in advance and as a result of this and negociations made with the management some shows will be booked and ticketprices are being set.

For example:  The show in Antwerp did cost at least about 60 EUR for the worst places and 160 EUR for the best places.  Antwerp seats about 13.500 people with seated ground instead of standing places.  Arras however has a capacity of more than 25.000 people and will be and open air concert with no middle stage.  Tickets are cheaper in Arras, only 66 EUR or 135 EUR for a few limited seats with lateral view on the stage.  The setup in Antwerp is more expensive than the setup in Arras (no middle stage, PA & Video only near the stage, etc...)  These are all things that will raise or lower the ticketprice...

Touring arround the world has become expensive also for the artists theirself.  Needless to say that fuelprices are rising above the sky and economics aren't doing to well in the US or even in Europe...  Neither will hotels become cheaper nor will other things be...

Ofcourse she is making a lot of money during the world tour but you must know that this all is very demanding for an artist so the discomfort during the tour is also calculated in the fees and ticketprices...

Dozens of factors are involved in setting the ticketsprices, even the "standards" of the particular country are included...  Is she popular in that specific country or is it a show to (re)launch her?  Are people earning a reasonable amount of money in that country?  To many to explain...

And since she's a music legend standing at the top of the music branch with numerous of sold records she can ask (or even demand) a certain standard to the ticketprices...


For short.  I really don't think that the shows are overpriced...  If I remember correctly the tour back in 99 would have cost about 100 EUR for a decent seat in a Stadium with a sold out capacity of about 55.000.  9 years later the ticketprice for a decent seat (best category) would cost about 160 EUR in a more intimate place with a seating capacity of 13.500.  During 9 years tickets (best category) were raised about 60%.  However, you got a better place to see the concert (smaller place, closer to the artist, better sound) and she needs to perform 3 shows compared to 1 otherwise...  I don't think it's to expensive...   Some things have become way more expensive during those 9 years...


Anyway, that's what I think about the ticketprices...

[CelionDion]

The Vegas run has been amazing (I've seen her 3 times) but to do another show like that for I-don't-knw-how-many-years would be pointless. It would have made more sense if her first run would have only lasted 1 or 2 years, but after 5 years another run would be too much IMO.

[A New Day Has Come]

I've seen Celine show in Vegas and it was amazing I think some people are bitter about Celine coming back to Vegas because they think it cost to much maybe if they save there money they could see Celine when see comes back to vegas and see a truly amazing show I say if you have nothing good to say then say nothing at all.

[CellyDee87]

(Apologies if this should be in another thread couldn't find anything that fit the description   )

I've been thinking about this and what the fans hopes and thoughts are for the future Vegas show  

What I imagine is  the show called Celine Dion -The Best Of Me. The Best of Me (a Bryan Adams song) I think has the perfect lyrics to describe her and well as the relationship with her fans. I think she could truly make this song her own, she would nail it.

Sometimes words are hard to find
I'm looking for that perfect line
To let you know you're always on my mind
Ya this is love - n Ive learned enough to know
I'm never lettin go
No, no, no - wont let go

When you want it - when you need it
You'll always have the best of me
I cant help it - believe it
You'll always get the best of me

I may not always know whats right
But I know I want you here tonight
Gonna make this moment last for all your life
Oh ya this is love - n it really means so much
I can tell from every touch
No, no, no - cant get enough

When you want it - when you need it
You'll always have the best of me
I cant help it - believe it
You'll always get the best of me

(solo)

Ya this is love
And Ive learned enough to know
I'm never letting go
No, no, no - wont let go

When you want it - when you need it
You'll always have the best of me
I cant help it - believe it
You'll always have the best of me - yeah!

When you want it - when you need it
You'll always get the best of me
I cant help it - believe it
You'll always get the best of me

You've got the best of me

So with Vegas, I would love to see another Franco Dragone collaboration with all the pizazz and dancers that A New Day had, as it was simply elegance and sophistication  

Outfits to be more modern like the ones we have seen on tour, they have been GORGEOUS! It's all about the legs  

And for tracklist I know and understand the idea of Vegas is the stability and repetition every night and bringing in the masses with her major hits, this is fine and I would still see it, but TPOL, IACBTMN and BYLM are soooo overdone at this stage in her career. So for example if she were to perform 3 nights a week, 2 of those nights could be the major overdone hits from years ago that everyone knows her for and for the other night I would love to see a Fan Selection or a show where she flaunts the songs we know and love but have not become popular to the masses, now that's what I call Taking Chances; some different songs. Perhaps they could take a poll through TeamCeline or something like that?   We could maybe get to hear the greats in fan eyes (or at least in mine) I Feel Too Much, Water From The Moon, I Love You, Us, If The Walls Could Talk, Sorry For Love, Reveal and many more.

I know the chances are so unlikely, but hey I can dream. What does everyone else hope for and imagine the next Vegas show to be like?

[A New Day Has Come]

I'm just happy that she is coming back to Vegas, but I would love it if she did something different from her last show it was phenomenal as allways. I hope she does collaberate with Franco Dragone again.      

[SuperLove4Celine]

Soon you'll see what I hope to see.  

- Joe

[stevethefan]

If this is true I will be very happy. I look forward to going to see her there and hopefully meetup with some Forum members for the show(s).

I doubt she will be performing A New Day again. I'm sure it will be a new show. She would never repeat herself. Hell I'd be happy if she just sat on stage and recited the phone book for an hour and a half!

[KimboCosmo]

I'm so excited thinking about it...

I will be totally happy though if she only performs 2 or3 times a week...just so she doesn't get so tired.

I'd love something even more extravagant than AND, and I'm sure if she paired with Dragone, it would be done

As far as the fan's having anything to say about the setlist...that is a dream...

[stevethefan]

I'm just wondering that if she performs less dates per year will it be her performing two or three times a week which would be stretched out throughout the year or would she perform more nights per week for a shorter year?

[KimboCosmo]

I'd prefer less nights a week for more time...

[Alex_Incognito]

I'd keep it very artistic, like the early days of AND.
Less concerts a week (perhaps on 2 months, off 2 months)
Time to record a GOOD album and promote it

Perform ALL new songs, nothing old.  Maybe add a twist to old Vegas.

[CelineAndRene]

OMG i should start saving up for it. If it's true

I'm not going to miss it this time

[CellyDee87]

Same I am NOT missing out! Flights alone $2000 best I stop splurging on shoes if I wanna be there

[Celcool]

My hope would be that she doesn't go back to Vegas.  

[Allie]

I kind of would love to see the A New Day show because I missed out the first time and I HATE myself for it since I am only a 4 hour drive from Vegas (southern California is love, so much to do and so much around here) so whatever she does, I am so there.

[Dennis]

Alex_Incognito, on Jul 8 2008, 07:24 PM, said:

I'd keep it very artistic, like the early days of AND.
Less concerts a week (perhaps on 2 months, off 2 months)
Time to record a GOOD album and promote it

Perform ALL new songs, nothing old.  Maybe add a twist to old Vegas.

I think that sounds wonderful!

[Alex_Incognito]

Though I'd rather have her have a LONG FRENCH gig somewhere. When I say long, I mean a few months.  Maybe at the Olympia theatre.  I'd love to see her perform at l'Opera Garnier.   Or wouldn't it be cool if she did a little small theatre tour in France, Belgium, and Luxembourg?  I'd like to see her go back more to French music.  She's done a lot for her anglophone fans---the TC tour is moreover anglophone and AND was all anglophone (save 2 songs).  When will we get to hear NEW classics such as "Je ne suis pas celle" and "Je cherche l'ombre"  at "La Diva" LIVE?

"D'elles" was such a classy album, and they did not give it the concert or tour that it deserves.  It's only a year old and it's dead.  Shame that one of her best albums is already forgotten because of lack of promotion.  (Yes...I'm bitter!  lol)

Edited by Alex_Incognito, 08 July 2008 - 11:28 PM.

[CelinesDIVO5]

we're ahead of ourselves no?

[Love,]

Nice to start a thread like this. And yes, I do believe Celine will return to Vegas for another amazing show.

I'm going to be a Simon Cowell for a moment, and say that if the show is called Celine Dion "The Best of Me," no one will come.

Edited by Love,, 09 July 2008 - 12:09 AM.