The gay issues thread

[Célinefull]

but I think , maybe because of my experience, that when you suffer for your situation, being gay I mean, you are closer to such songs

 

 

i guess my question is: if being gain involves so much suffering, then why there is so much hype about gays, etc. "coming out of the closet" issue is becoming a little old. Please don't take it personally as i have nothing bad to say about gays as people. Gay sexual relations do freak me out a little bit once i get thinking about it...

i have never met a gay person until i was um, 17 and on my first trip to the US (San Francisco). i knew gays existed but i have never seen such a bold expression of homosexuality before. attending a Gay Pride 2001 was quite an experience.

 

male/female relations freak me out, so i guess we're even.

 

I don't believe that things are as hard for everyone as celine.mydream said, but yes it's tough like it is for all minorities wanting to be accepted and trying to live their lives the way that they want.

I think " hype" and " getting a bit old" we're probably used there due to your limited second language lexicon...so i'm not going to be as offended as I could be...but nobody tells Estonians complaining about Russians that it's "getting a bit old"

[Frida]

male/female relations freak me out

 

aaahahaha, that made me laugh out loud...

[celine.mydream]

i'm still confused!

 

however i do not think that being gay is something hard to fight with for every one..it was for me because living in small old-mind town makes people wathc and act in only one way...however people now has changed (i hope )...and maybe being gay now is easier and i do think that it depends strongly on the place you live in...my ideas weren't a status ..just my personal experience...right now i'm happy being gay and i can see that in milan everything is around gay life and gay friendly people are everywhere!

[Célinefull]

i'm still confused!

 

however i do not think that being gay is something hard to fight with for every one..it was for me because living in small old-mind town makes people wathc and act in only one way...however people now has changed (i hope )...and maybe being gay now is easier and i do think that it depends strongly on the place you live in...my ideas weren't a status ..just my personal experience...right now i'm happy being gay and i can see that in milan everything is around gay life and gay friendly people are everywhere!

 

yeah, it's easier in a bigger city because people have better things to worry about than other people's lives!

[Kian]

Gay, str8, bi, who cares ? It's what is inside each person that matters, unfortunately not everyone think that.

[celine.mydream]

I do agree with you!!!! some people still identify human beings thinking about sexual behaviors.....when I talk to my friends, to unknowns, when we talk 2 each other I only think anout what he/she/it is ( ).....nothing else!

[nico robin]

male/female relations freak me out

 

happens the same with me

[gizapup]

but nobody tells Estonians complaining about Russians that it's "getting a bit old"

 

that will never get old

 

when I was too young to really think about my sexuality, I was obsessed with Celine. Now that I know I'm gay, I hardly listen to her music any more. Go figure.

[DianaLuts]

Gay sexual relations do freak me out a little bit once i get thinking about it...

 

SORRY...but i didn't get what you mean in here.....

 

 

without going into graphic details, i guess what i am trying to say that it feels a little weird for me to see a guy performing, um, acts on another guy.

[DianaLuts]

but I think , maybe because of my experience, that when you suffer for your situation, being gay I mean, you are closer to such songs

 

 

i guess my question is: if being gain involves so much suffering, then why there is so much hype about gays, etc. "coming out of the closet" issue is becoming a little old. Please don't take it personally as i have nothing bad to say about gays as people. Gay sexual relations do freak me out a little bit once i get thinking about it...

i have never met a gay person until i was um, 17 and on my first trip to the US (San Francisco). i knew gays existed but i have never seen such a bold expression of homosexuality before. attending a Gay Pride 2001 was quite an experience.

 

male/female relations freak me out, so i guess we're even.

 

I don't believe that things are as hard for everyone as celine.mydream said, but yes it's tough like it is for all minorities wanting to be accepted and trying to live their lives the way that they want.

I think " hype" and " getting a bit old" we're probably used there due to your limited second language lexicon...so i'm not going to be as offended as I could be...but nobody tells Estonians complaining about Russians that it's "getting a bit old"

 

lol, FYI i don't consider myself as having a limited English knowledge. as a matter of fact, i speak 4 languages and i attend a great university in the US (USC that is) and i have A's and B'. considering how competitive the university is, i don't think i would be able to get good grades if i have a limited English knowledge as you think i am.

[Boy]

And your sig and avatar should be forbidden (you know very good why) this thread is a dangerous place for such a handsome guy like you

 

Well, this isn't me actually. This is the guy from Bodies Without Organs band.

[Célinefull]

but I think , maybe because of my experience, that when you suffer for your situation, being gay I mean, you are closer to such songs

 

 

i guess my question is: if being gain involves so much suffering, then why there is so much hype about gays, etc. "coming out of the closet" issue is becoming a little old. Please don't take it personally as i have nothing bad to say about gays as people. Gay sexual relations do freak me out a little bit once i get thinking about it...

i have never met a gay person until i was um, 17 and on my first trip to the US (San Francisco). i knew gays existed but i have never seen such a bold expression of homosexuality before. attending a Gay Pride 2001 was quite an experience.

 

male/female relations freak me out, so i guess we're even.

 

I don't believe that things are as hard for everyone as celine.mydream said, but yes it's tough like it is for all minorities wanting to be accepted and trying to live their lives the way that they want.

I think " hype" and " getting a bit old" we're probably used there due to your limited second language lexicon...so i'm not going to be as offended as I could be...but nobody tells Estonians complaining about Russians that it's "getting a bit old"

 

lol, FYI i don't consider myself as having a limited English knowledge. as a matter of fact, i speak 4 languages and i attend a great university in the US (USC that is) and i have A's and B'. considering how competitive the university is, i don't think i would be able to get good grades if i have a limited English knowledge as you think i am.

 

"If i had as limited a knowledge of english as you think i have" would be better. If your fluent in English, then choose your words more carefully, because what your saying can be interpreted as rather confusing. Are you saying that the drama around gay people is getting old, or that gay people are 'getting old'? - it's a bit ambiguous, no offense. Now I'm reading it back it could mean so many different things, and I just like to understand what's being said.

[celine.mydream]

but I think , maybe because of my experience, that when you suffer for your situation, being gay I mean, you are closer to such songs

 

 

i guess my question is: if being gain involves so much suffering, then why there is so much hype about gays, etc. "coming out of the closet" issue is becoming a little old. Please don't take it personally as i have nothing bad to say about gays as people. Gay sexual relations do freak me out a little bit once i get thinking about it...

i have never met a gay person until i was um, 17 and on my first trip to the US (San Francisco). i knew gays existed but i have never seen such a bold expression of homosexuality before. attending a Gay Pride 2001 was quite an experience.

 

male/female relations freak me out, so i guess we're even.

 

I don't believe that things are as hard for everyone as celine.mydream said, but yes it's tough like it is for all minorities wanting to be accepted and trying to live their lives the way that they want.

I think " hype" and " getting a bit old" we're probably used there due to your limited second language lexicon...so i'm not going to be as offended as I could be...but nobody tells Estonians complaining about Russians that it's "getting a bit old"

 

lol, FYI i don't consider myself as having a limited English knowledge. as a matter of fact, i speak 4 languages and i attend a great university in the US (USC that is) and i have A's and B'. considering how competitive the university is, i don't think i would be able to get good grades if i have a limited English knowledge as you think i am.

 

"If i had as limited a knowledge of english as you think i have" would be better. If your fluent in English, then choose your words more carefully, because what your saying can be interpreted as rather confusing. Are you saying that the drama around gay people is getting old, or that gay people are 'getting old'? - it's a bit ambiguous, no offense. Now I'm reading it back it could mean so many different things, and I just like to understand what's being said.

 

 

exactly the same thought I made!!! I didn't catch the real meaning of the senteces....

[DianaLuts]

but I think , maybe because of my experience, that when you suffer for your situation, being gay I mean, you are closer to such songs

 

 

i guess my question is: if being gain involves so much suffering, then why there is so much hype about gays, etc. "coming out of the closet" issue is becoming a little old. Please don't take it personally as i have nothing bad to say about gays as people. Gay sexual relations do freak me out a little bit once i get thinking about it...

i have never met a gay person until i was um, 17 and on my first trip to the US (San Francisco). i knew gays existed but i have never seen such a bold expression of homosexuality before. attending a Gay Pride 2001 was quite an experience.

 

male/female relations freak me out, so i guess we're even.

 

I don't believe that things are as hard for everyone as celine.mydream said, but yes it's tough like it is for all minorities wanting to be accepted and trying to live their lives the way that they want.

I think " hype" and " getting a bit old" we're probably used there due to your limited second language lexicon...so i'm not going to be as offended as I could be...but nobody tells Estonians complaining about Russians that it's "getting a bit old"

 

lol, FYI i don't consider myself as having a limited English knowledge. as a matter of fact, i speak 4 languages and i attend a great university in the US (USC that is) and i have A's and B'. considering how competitive the university is, i don't think i would be able to get good grades if i have a limited English knowledge as you think i am.

 

"If i had as limited a knowledge of english as you think i have" would be better. If your fluent in English, then choose your words more carefully, because what your saying can be interpreted as rather confusing. Are you saying that the drama around gay people is getting old, or that gay people are 'getting old'? - it's a bit ambiguous, no offense. Now I'm reading it back it could mean so many different things, and I just like to understand what's being said.

 

 

exactly the same thought I made!!! I didn't catch the real meaning of the senteces....

 

 

i am sorry for sounding ambiguous but i guess quoting the fan from Australia (celinefull), you might have a limited english knowledge.

[celine.mydream]

but I think , maybe because of my experience, that when you suffer for your situation, being gay I mean, you are closer to such songs

 

 

i guess my question is: if being gain involves so much suffering, then why there is so much hype about gays, etc. "coming out of the closet" issue is becoming a little old. Please don't take it personally as i have nothing bad to say about gays as people. Gay sexual relations do freak me out a little bit once i get thinking about it...

i have never met a gay person until i was um, 17 and on my first trip to the US (San Francisco). i knew gays existed but i have never seen such a bold expression of homosexuality before. attending a Gay Pride 2001 was quite an experience.

 

male/female relations freak me out, so i guess we're even.

 

I don't believe that things are as hard for everyone as celine.mydream said, but yes it's tough like it is for all minorities wanting to be accepted and trying to live their lives the way that they want.

I think " hype" and " getting a bit old" we're probably used there due to your limited second language lexicon...so i'm not going to be as offended as I could be...but nobody tells Estonians complaining about Russians that it's "getting a bit old"

 

lol, FYI i don't consider myself as having a limited English knowledge. as a matter of fact, i speak 4 languages and i attend a great university in the US (USC that is) and i have A's and B'. considering how competitive the university is, i don't think i would be able to get good grades if i have a limited English knowledge as you think i am.

 

"If i had as limited a knowledge of english as you think i have" would be better. If your fluent in English, then choose your words more carefully, because what your saying can be interpreted as rather confusing. Are you saying that the drama around gay people is getting old, or that gay people are 'getting old'? - it's a bit ambiguous, no offense. Now I'm reading it back it could mean so many different things, and I just like to understand what's being said.

 

 

exactly the same thought I made!!! I didn't catch the real meaning of the senteces....

 

 

i am sorry for sounding ambiguous but i guess quoting the fan from Australia (celinefull), you might have a limited english knowledge.

 

IT'S NOT A PROBLEM! sometimes we don't explain things in the right way...sometimes we don't understand things in the right way...

[gizapup]

I have a question for you guys... how did you tell/are going to tell your parents that you are gay? i'm facing a real dilemma... to tell my parents or not. i'm not really close to them, i never share my inner feelings with them so i'm not even sure they should know i'm gay. but at the same time i'm really close to my brother and he knows i'm gay and he's happy about it as long as I am. another thing about parents... they are pretty homophobic. my mom has seen a couple of gay films on tv and she's said she'd rather kill herself than find out that her kids are gay. what would you do in a situation like that? nowadays, it's quite ok to be gay, the society is a bit more accepting than years ago.. but how would you tell your parents who have never had any connection with gays that you're one of them? i'm not afraid that they'd disown me. if they did, the hell with it, i've been on my own most of my life anyway... but still, i wouldn't want to upset them. i'm kind of torn... i wish they'd know the truth so they wouldn't expect me to come home with a guy but at the same time although i don't really care much for their opinion, i wouldn't want them to hate me for simply being who i am. i'm at a loss

[MIC999]

I knew many gay boys,and one of them is my best friend,I learnt that many gay boys are very nice

[Macaronie]

I have a question for you guys... how did you tell/are going to tell your parents that you are gay? i'm facing a real dilemma... to tell my parents or not. i'm not really close to them, i never share my inner feelings with them so i'm not even sure they should know i'm gay. but at the same time i'm really close to my brother and he knows i'm gay and he's happy about it as long as I am. another thing about parents... they are pretty homophobic. my mom has seen a couple of gay films on tv and she's said she'd rather kill herself than find out that her kids are gay. what would you do in a situation like that? nowadays, it's quite ok to be gay, the society is a bit more accepting than years ago.. but how would you tell your parents who have never had any connection with gays that you're one of them? i'm not afraid that they'd disown me. if they did, the hell with it, i've been on my own most of my life anyway... but still, i wouldn't want to upset them. i'm kind of torn... i wish they'd know the truth so they wouldn't expect me to come home with a guy but at the same time although i don't really care much for their opinion, i wouldn't want them to hate me for simply being who i am. i'm at a loss

My dad is quite homophobic as well, he's really oldfashioned with stuff, also gays I guess.

I told my brother first as well, and somehow I had some issues going on, and I barely talk about deep and inner feeling with my parents, but I felt like the time was right, so I told what was going on, and then I told my mom I am gay. She told my dad, I never really told him myself.. but I guess he knows now, my mom seems oke with it, making jokes, my dad is quiet when the subject is in a convo.

So I guess you need to find out who you can trust most, and find out the right time when to tell. I am sure they won't disown you, you are their child however. I know some people were kicked out the house, but that's mostly because there is more, I am sure your parents love you. Ask them if you aren't sure, and then just tell. It sounds easy, I know it isn't, but just try to feel and follow your insticts.

[Lollypopboy]

I have a question for you guys... how did you tell/are going to tell your parents that you are gay? i'm facing a real dilemma... to tell my parents or not. i'm not really close to them, i never share my inner feelings with them so i'm not even sure they should know i'm gay. but at the same time i'm really close to my brother and he knows i'm gay and he's happy about it as long as I am. another thing about parents... they are pretty homophobic. my mom has seen a couple of gay films on tv and she's said she'd rather kill herself than find out that her kids are gay. what would you do in a situation like that? nowadays, it's quite ok to be gay, the society is a bit more accepting than years ago.. but how would you tell your parents who have never had any connection with gays that you're one of them? i'm not afraid that they'd disown me. if they did, the hell with it, i've been on my own most of my life anyway... but still, i wouldn't want to upset them. i'm kind of torn... i wish they'd know the truth so they wouldn't expect me to come home with a guy but at the same time although i don't really care much for their opinion, i wouldn't want them to hate me for simply being who i am. i'm at a loss

 

 

Well... I told mine when I was twelve...

In fact, it just came out why we (mum & I) were having a discussion...

but after she was ok with it.. and I think she told my dad about it for he never asked if I was dating a girl or not

But the case isn't the same for everyone... So like Jeroen said, find the one you trust most first then tell him...

[Frida]

 

 

k, soooooo... it's passed midnight here, which means it's november 19th, which happens to be the day I came out to my parents... (2005) so two years from me... yaay

[Frida]

btw, I think the search function is slightly homofobic cause when I typed in "gay" to find this thread I got no results lol

[nico robin]

i still can't say to my parents that i'm bi....

 

 

 

 

k, soooooo... it's passed midnight here, which means it's november 19th, which happens to be the day I came out to my parents... (2005) so two years from me... yaay

[Célinefull]

yey Frida! It was two years for me earlier this year...it feels good doesn't it?

[Krys]

btw, I think the search function is slightly homofobic cause when I typed in "gay" to find this thread I got no results lol

 

thats cuz you need at least four letters to make a search

[Frida]

yey Frida! It was two years for me earlier this year...it feels good doesn't it?

 

congrats yeah it does....

 

btw, I think the search function is slightly homofobic cause when I typed in "gay" to find this thread I got no results lol

 

thats cuz you need at least four letters to make a search

 

okay, now I don't feel stupid at all....

[marckvls]

I have a question for you guys... how did you tell/are going to tell your parents that you are gay? i'm facing a real dilemma... to tell my parents or not. i'm not really close to them, i never share my inner feelings with them so i'm not even sure they should know i'm gay. but at the same time i'm really close to my brother and he knows i'm gay and he's happy about it as long as I am. another thing about parents... they are pretty homophobic. my mom has seen a couple of gay films on tv and she's said she'd rather kill herself than find out that her kids are gay. what would you do in a situation like that? nowadays, it's quite ok to be gay, the society is a bit more accepting than years ago.. but how would you tell your parents who have never had any connection with gays that you're one of them? i'm not afraid that they'd disown me. if they did, the hell with it, i've been on my own most of my life anyway... but still, i wouldn't want to upset them. i'm kind of torn... i wish they'd know the truth so they wouldn't expect me to come home with a guy but at the same time although i don't really care much for their opinion, i wouldn't want them to hate me for simply being who i am. i'm at a loss

My dad is quite homophobic as well, he's really oldfashioned with stuff, also gays I guess.

I told my brother first as well, and somehow I had some issues going on, and I barely talk about deep and inner feeling with my parents, but I felt like the time was right, so I told what was going on, and then I told my mom I am gay. She told my dad, I never really told him myself.. but I guess he knows now, my mom seems oke with it, making jokes, my dad is quiet when the subject is in a convo.

So I guess you need to find out who you can trust most, and find out the right time when to tell. I am sure they won't disown you, you are their child however. I know some people were kicked out the house, but that's mostly because there is more, I am sure your parents love you. Ask them if you aren't sure, and then just tell. It sounds easy, I know it isn't, but just try to feel and follow your insticts.

 

In my case... I don't think they deserve to know... They'll figure out by the time, of course!

But I don't care anyway...They wont bother my life

Edited November 19, 2007 at 05:20 PM by marckvls

[babymonkey]

How long has it been since I've been here and thisa thread is still running strong! Hard to believe homosexuality is such an issue among Celine fans! (Feel the irony kids!!) lol! I'm only kidding though. It's great that a discussion like this can be so open and helpful to so many people! By the by all, I've been away for a while and in the meantime have relocated to sunny Florida! Man I miss Ireland... the yanks are crazy!

[celinedionsfan]

Hey BabyMonkey... where in Florida are you? East coast? West coast? Central Florida? Panhandle?

[babymonkey]

I'm on the east coast. Vero beach to be precise... Zero Beach is the most apt nickname I've ever heard for a town! So quiet here!

[celinedionsfan]

I am south of you... Fort Lauderdale area...