The gay issues thread

[mazceline]

whoop

[Jacqui]

1.What do you think about gays?

 

I don't see why anyone needs to have an opinion on them. They're people. Just like some people are black, some are white, some are Christian, some are Jewish, or some like pizza, and some don't. So what if a guy loves another guy, or a girl loves another girl? It doesn't make them any more or less of a good person. They deserve to be treated equally, and not discriminated against in any way. It's not my business to decide who somebody else should love.

 

2.Did you ever have a gay friend or still have it?How is/was it?

 

It's funny, because just about every guy I'm friends with is gay. But we went to a Catholic school, and they wouldn't dare to admit it until after we graduated. Then, one by one, they started coming out. With the first one, we were all surprised. By the 10th we were like, "yep, that sounds about right..."

 

 

Something that makes me angry- my Dad. He's always saying nasty things about my gay friends. I don't know why he thinks he has the right to judge. He's not even that religious- but even if you do take a fully Christian view and think it's a sin, God never said we have the right to treat others badly because of it. Or if maybe he just thinks it's funny to say the horrible things he does?

 

This may sound weird, but it bothers me because I think, what if one day, by some chance, I fell in love with another woman and wanted to spend my life with her? I honestly don't see this ever happening (The only woman I'm in love with is Celine- LOL j/k.) But I truly believe that when you fall in love with someone, that has more to do with their soul, than their gender. It's beyond anything physical. Which is why I understand how people can fall in love with someone of a different race, of the same gender, or someone much older or younger than themselves.

Anyway, sorry for the rambling. It just built up in my brain.

[Davey84]

1.What do you think about gays?

 

I don't see why anyone needs to have an opinion on them. They're people. Just like some people are black, some are white, some are Christian, some are Jewish, or some like pizza, and some don't. So what if a guy loves another guy, or a girl loves another girl? It doesn't make them any more or less of a good person. They deserve to be treated equally, and not discriminated against in any way. It's not my business to decide who somebody else should love.

 

totally the right answer! I like or dislike someone by their character! I don't mind if that person is black, white, yellow, gay, straight, bi, transsexual or a marsman by that matter!

[dj4celine]

Davey, what's a 'marsman' ??!!??

 

 

 

But yeah, I get your point. As for Jacqui, some very wise words there. If only the whole world would have had a mindset like that

[Davey84]

http://www.sloddervossen.be/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/mars-cold.jpg

 

[dj4celine]

Ohh... I get your point now

 

[mazceline]

i got a girl friend whoop whoop

[Davey84]

oh congrats!

[dj4celine]

Congrats, Maz

[mazceline]

I know for the first time in 30 years i feel ME, hope others dont wait so long too much heart ache much better to be who you are,

[Mazsgirl]

All through my life i have hidden the person i am, trying to be normal and could only find the strength through music...celine inperticular was the main one that helped me when i had no one else. Then 3 months ago, this amazing person came into my life who has not only opened my heart but has shown me that hiding is not the way to live your life. i have since told my brother and mum what makes me who i am. although i still have the challange of tellin my dad, my life seems to make much more sense now.

[Prince Whiskers]

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[RLAAMJR.]

I have friends who are gays. They're nice but sometimes they're really into something.

[Davey84]

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why repeat topic, this is the original gay topic!

[ThisTime]

1. The fact that it has to be a question kinda irks me. People are people and I like people in general

 

2. All of my friends but one came out of the closet in high school LOL so yeah I've had them. & as to what I think, well they were still the same as before I knew that they were, so really it's not much of a big deal.

[Edwin]

Clearly Davey isn't used to Manuel's humor And hear hear Lea!! That is what I've always believed too Hence the non issues thread, aka IA

[Prince Whiskers]

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why repeat topic, this is the original gay topic!

The Prince wants the other one closed then! The pics in there are fit for burning anyway. Clearly Satan's work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[artist]

Hello guys,

 

I actually have a question that has been running in my mind for a long while: I know that love comes from what we have inside but, I have been noticing in my city that only OVER HOT gays are successful to find love and form a gay couple, so is the outside beauty all that matters to start a love relationship in the gay world in general? I always feel that beauty is REALLY important and is in the front in the gay world, but I can't see why.

I know many good guys here who were not sooo extra ultra hot to find love here…

[Davey84]

hmm no! I think that's just shallowness from gays in your area! maybe they have too many demands if it comes to the appearance of the other person. those hot guys, do they have long term relationships, or are they just for a little while? Cos that only confirms the shallowness IMO!

[Frida]

Don't think that applies to "gay" love only

[artist]

Don't think that applies to "gay" love only

 

Yeah, i think you're right, but once you are into this community here, it feels like this problem is even more present than in the hetero world.

Edited November 11, 2009 at 10:24 PM by artist

[cdclore]

That's such a stereotype.

 

I'm gay. I'm in a committed relationship and have been for over two years. While it's a plus that I'm attracted to my partner, looks aren't everything. They don't get you through the hard times. And they definitely don't give you a lasting type of relationship. If looks were all that mattered to gay couples, they'd all fail. Everyone gets old. Everyone's bodies change. Stereotypes such as this are what give gay relationships that extra negative light. We can't even get married without someone inserting themselves in our personal/private family lives ...because they feel strongly about their religion and/or the fact that being gay is in order to satisfy some sort of immoral lust for the same sex. This feeds exactly to that.

[artist]

OK, u r right, but i didn't say ESSENTIAL for a lasting love, i said for STARTING love... becuz, really, no one looks at average people here... i know a friend who freaked out once for gaining two kilos, and kept telling me that he will lose his boyfriend if he doesn't lose those kilos.

[Edwin]

Moved topic to the bigger Gay serious thread. Love the gays, I really do, but there doesn't need to be a seperate topic for your question.

[cdclore]

OK, u r right, but i didn't say ESSENTIAL for a lasting love, i said for STARTING love... becuz, really, no one looks at average people here... i know a friend who freaked out once for gaining two kilos, and kept telling me that he will lose his boyfriend if he doesn't lose those kilos.

 

It's sad if you feel like you're going to lose a relationship because you gain/lose weight. If I ever felt that way, I doubt I'd be in that relationship to start with. And if I ever felt like my looks were essential for me to start a relationship, I doubt I'd want to start a lasting relationship with that person. It's as simple as that. Of course you feel nervous and self conscious when you're getting into something new, but as for it being essential to begin a relationship, I think that's ridiculous. This happens in both gay and straight relationships, btw, which is why I think you should be careful in singling out gay relationships.

[Edwin]

Like someone already stated, this is such a big stereotype. Sure, there are some gays that are very superficial and shallow,that isn't exclusive to the gay community!

Yes how you look will play into the first impression on ANY relationship, it's the first SNAPSHOT of who you are, but it by no means defines you.

 

And I sure as heck don't want to be in a relationship with ANYONE who values whats on the outisde more than whats on the inside. So gaining 2kilos is more important than being a loyal, trusting, faithful partner? What kind of priorities are those? If that really is the kind of relationship someone is in, I'd say dump him and move on to a better rounded individual.

 

/rant

[Ray]

I think hetero people (especially women) worry a lot more about gaining weight. Seems lots of women I know are always on a diet...

[eszcd30]

Please don't think that we CHOOSE to be gay, okay? No one CHOOSES it, you didn't wake up one day and chose to be straight, did you?

 

Wow, I've read through A LOT of the responses, not all of them but a lot. It's quite interesting. I live a very "gay-friendly" life for a number of reasons, one because I'm a lesbian and it seems silly to dislike gays, two, because I work with many gay men and a few gay women, I'm a flight attendant so there's no lack of "gay" in my business, three because I was raised to accept others.

 

I agree that people don't CHOOSE to be gay. I've thought over and over many times (mostly after a bad breakup) that if I were straight "gosh my life would be easier" and it's true, to a degree... I'd probably be married now if I were straight.. have kids, the whole 2.5 family thing. Being gay isn't the easiest thing in the world... I was working with a guy who said he hoped his son wouldn't grow up to be gay and I nearly attacked him, but before I did he told me the reason he hoped his son wouldn't be gay was because being gay isn't easy. There's many difficulties for gays still... discrimination... I know high-powered women who are gay but can't come out because of the fear of being treated different and as a VP you don't want to be treated different... The marriage issue, did you know that there are 1138 different rights, protections and benefits that are denied to gay couples who aren't married? (if that's been stated before in one of the 42 other pages, sorry).

 

Anyway, I love my gay friends just like I love my straight and bi friends. Just because a person is gay doesn't mean they aren't good, and it doesn't mean they aren't bad. I know bad gays, I know bad straights too. I've known abusive gays (men and women) and I've known abusive straights. Being gay isn't exactly a personality trait, (well it is sorta, but it's not like being a good person or a bad person) <--does that make sense? Being gay just means you like the same sex, don't we all like our gay friends because of who they are (if they're funny, nice, genuine etc) and not because of WHAT they like? Just like our straight friends?

 

Blah blah blah, sorry for my babbling...

 

Ellie

[davidjag79]

I think people are people! No one should be judged based on race, religion, sex, or sexual orientation! Everyone has a right to the own views and gay is not a choice! Love everybody for who they are without judgement. And alot of gays support Celine,and Celine loves the gays! So that is more reason to love the GAYS! LOL

 

J'adore CELINE

Edited November 14, 2009 at 03:30 AM by davidjag79

[Angel, You thrill me]

Hello guys,

so is the outside beauty all that matters to start a love relationship in the gay world in general?

yep, all that matters, no pecs no sex