The gay issues thread

[rathnakumar]

Whoa! I didn't know something so serious was going on with Dhruvy...

 

And hell yeah, :::YOU SHOULD SMILE COS YOU DESERVE TO:::

[celinefanonline]

well i have recently told my mum about that i'm gay... and thing which i posted in the wrong topic...

anyway after that my father knows about it.. and actually he said he would support me!! i was surprised!! althought not totally but yeah it's really nice to hear that!!!

[mazceline]

Thats great to hear im very pleased for you , you are very lucky

[Jeffieboi]

well i have recently told my mum about that i'm gay... and thing which i posted in the wrong topic...

anyway after that my father knows about it.. and actually he said he would support me!! i was surprised!! althought not totally but yeah it's really nice to hear that!!!

 

 

I think a lot of people would be suprised how well their fathers would take it. I think it took a little time for my father to come around, but now it's totally a non issue in my family.

[Edwin]

It's not really brought up in my family. My extended family doesn't know I don't think, lol. Maybe they have a clue...

[mazceline]

well ya all know my family hate gays so aarrgghh

[Sarit31]

I have a couple of gay friends, and they're really nice people.

 

What do I THINK of gays? I think that if they want to be gay, it's their business. So long as they keep it private, and don't rub it in your face (my ex lived next door to a gay guy once who used to invite him to his orgies even though he knew it wasn't my ex's thing), then it's OK by me.

[mazceline]

what i hate is when people say what they think about GAYS do we say what we think about STRAIGHTS and no disrespect to the above comment but i live near a couple who have orgys and there staraight should they be rubbing my nose in it too?

[Frida]

I have a couple of gay friends, and they're really nice people.

 

What do I THINK of gays? I think that if they want to be gay, it's their business. So long as they keep it private, and don't rub it in your face (my ex lived next door to a gay guy once who used to invite him to his orgies even though he knew it wasn't my ex's thing), then it's OK by me.

 

Please don't think that we CHOOSE to be gay, okay? No one CHOOSES it, you didn't wake up one day and chose to be straight, did you?

[Davey84]

I totally agree Frida!! People don't seem to get that... when I told a collegue that, that you don't choose' to be gay, she never really thought about that before... And it's the same with heterosexuality, you don't choose that... people could be living in denial, but that's a different thing!

 

So long as they keep it private, and don't rub it in your face

 

well do you go around telling people Hi I'm blabla, and I'm hetero!

[Frida]

Haha, yeah... It's always fun to see peoples stunned faces when you say this: (the first time this happened was with my gynaecologist)

 

(She just found out I'm gay) "Oh really? When did you know?"

"Probably the same morning you woke up and said 'heeey, I'm straight '"

 

Hahahaha, she blushed and went soooo quiet

[Davey84]

OMG that is too smart!! I will remember that line!!!

[Krys]

Haha, yeah... It's always fun to see peoples stunned faces when you say this: (the first time this happened was with my gynaecologist)

 

(She just found out I'm gay) "Oh really? When did you know?"

"Probably the same morning you woke up and said 'heeey, I'm straight '"

 

Hahahaha, she blushed and went soooo quiet

 

[Frida]

just as funny, every time

[mazceline]

ill remember that one x x

[bfhb]

one simple rule............. to each their own

and if we all showed respect for each other and ourselves ....wouldnt the world be a better place

[dj4celine]

^^

 

Totally agree

 

And Frida, that was a kicka$$ reply

[mazceline]

one simple rule............. to each their own

and if we all showed respect for each other and ourselves ....wouldnt the world be a better place

 

 

never gonna happen

[Céline's Blues]

OMG How disgusting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dejvej!!!!!!!!!!!!! How can you be here on this forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Davey84]

I haven't posted here in ages!

[Céline's Blues]

I haven't posted here in ages!

 

You posted here NOW OMG How could you!???!??!?!?!?!?!

[Davey84]

cause you maaaaaaade me to! :P :P

[bfhb]

hey guys any donna summer fans out there......she has a new cd out in may....sounds as fab as ever!!!

[Davey84]

Something to think about...

 

This is a fantastic letter, please read it:

 

I'm Here, President Ahmadinajad

 

I'm one of those people Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says don't exist. I'm a 25-year-old Iranian, and I'm gay.

 

I live in Tehran with my parents and younger brother and am studying to be a computer software engineer. I've known that I was different from my brother and other boys for as long as I can remember.

 

I was born in 1982, two years after the start of the Iran-Iraq War, and when I was growing up, most boys loved to play with toy guns, pretending to be soldiers in the war. I liked painting, and playing with dolls. My brother preferred to play with the other boys, so most of the time I was lonely.

 

I was 16 when I first realized that I was sexually attracted to some of the boys in my high school classes. I had no idea what I could do with that feeling. All I knew about homosexuals were the jokes and negative stories that people told about them. I thought a homosexual was someone who sexually abused children -- until I saw the word "homosexual" for the first time in an English encyclopedia, and found a definition of myself.

 

After that, I started searching the Internet for information about homosexuality. Eventually I came across two Iranian Web sites where I could communicate with other gays. I was 17. At first, I didn't want to give anyone my e-mail address because I was afraid that I could be abused or that my parents might find out, or that people on the site could be government spies. But I finally decided to exchange e-mails with one person, and after some correspondence, we spoke on the phone. I'll never forget the first time I heard the voice of another gay man. We arranged to meet at the home of a friend of his, and the three of us talked for hours. I felt so comfortable with them. The next day I learned that the friend was interested in me. His name was Omid, and we became boyfriends.

 

 

I also became interested in the gay social movement that started in 2000. Around that time, Iranian society became more open under President Mohammad Khatami's reformist government. The Internet became common, and everybody started talking about issues they couldn't even have thought about before.

 

Until then, the gay world had been underground and secret. Under the Islamic Republic, gays could face the death penalty; they could also lose their jobs and family support. Meetings and parties took place only in the most trusted private homes. Heterosexuals were almost never seen at these gatherings. Even fellow gays were only slowly accepted. It could take years for a homosexual to become known and trusted. Most older gays were married and even had children, and their family and friends had no idea of their sexuality.

 

There was a handful of gathering places for outcast homosexuals in Tehran, people who couldn't hide their sexuality and had lost their jobs, or people whose families had disowned them, and who had turned to selling sex for money. Those places were always being attacked by the paramilitaries.

 

My generation was the first to start the coming-out process. I decided to come out when I was 20. I thought that if I just talked to my parents about it, they would accept my reasoning. I was totally wrong. Their reaction was horrible. They started to restrict me -- I couldn't use the phone or invite any of my friends over, and they cut back on financial support. Part of their reaction was religious; part was their concern that I couldn't survive as a homosexual in Iran. They were also ashamed to tell the rest of our family and wanted to see me married to a woman.

 

We argued constantly; they insisted that I wasn't gay, that I only thought I was. It took me years to calm them down, but over time, they lost any hope of changing me, and they started to change themselves. Now they accept that I'm gay, but they're not happy about it.

 

Meanwhile, the gay community has worked to educate people via Web sites and dialogue with our friends and families. But we've found that the most effective way of changing people's minds is coming out. When people see us as reasonable humans, their negative views of homosexuality are shattered. I can honestly say there's been a change in the way Iranians view us now. Gay life in Iran isn't as underground as it used to be. We have gay parties with heterosexual guests -- and even our parents! We have places where we can congregate -- in coffee shops, special park areas and even certain offices. Many more homosexuals are willing to come out these days. Activists estimate that .5 percent of the Iranian population is homosexual, bisexual or transsexual.

 

But we weren't surprised by Ahmadinejad's comments about gays at Columbia University. What else could he say? We stone homosexuals in Iran because that's what God wants? It was a joke, but he gave the only answer he could.

 

I wish our president could learn to respect gays instead of denying us. But I'm not holding my breath. In the meantime, my only response to his remarks is this: Whatever he says, Ahmadinejad can't change the fact that we exist.

 

 

Amir is an activist in Tehran whose name is being withheld for his safety.

[aivee]

i HAVE lots of gay friends...and i love them so much

most of them got lots of boyfriends and goodlooking guys...and i even tried to have one :sofunny:

in some point i hate them sometimes coz they were so over acting but still i love them...i love gays than lesbian..no offense to them,but i prefer gays

 

i have a close bestfriend whose gay and he always told me about his lovelife... and i cant relate those things

 

well...gay rules :whee:

[Boy]

A couple of weeks ago my friend who's straight called me and went like "Oh, you know, I've just called one guy from my university and thought that somehow you picked up!". I asked what was all about... He said the voices of that guy and me were so similar and that basically we are very similar and he wanted us to get acquainted. We did... That guy is 18 (I'm 20), he's gay but he's a virgin and I happened to like him and it was in return and the thing started... But then something went wrong. I was calling and he never was picking up. Yesterday he told me he's tired of everybody and wants to be alone and asked me not to call him, that there's no space for anybody in his life now. And now I'm a bit like The thing is that I neve rlet anybody to become close to me... Cuz i'm gay but somehow i dislike gays. In most of the cases they just take me as some bed mate, nothing more... But this time i really "accepted" they guy and i'm sorry that it means to me only... Not to him... I dunno what am i to tell him to let him know how much i want him to stay by my side

[Linn92]

2 questions:

 

1.What do you think about gays?

 

2.Did you ever have a gay friend or still have it?How is/was it?

 

1. Nothing against them.

2. I have some, v. kind <3

[Timster]

I hardly ever look in the Off Topic section, so I thought I might today!

 

I have no problem with gay people, they are human beings just like everyone else and I think people should have more respect for them. I'm straight btw.

 

There doesn't seem to be many straight people on this forum! I was quite surprised how many gay people there were when I joined...

Edited December 31, 2008 at 09:01 PM by ShuttleDiscovery

[D'elles]

i'm gay but my bf broke my heart

[lost84]

It's sooo nice to know here are so many people who like Gay's!!!!

Thank you