Celine at the 66th Grammys, presenting album of the year award

[mirage]

Claudette at it again, this time her take on the Celine at the Grammys , Taylor Swift and preparing for Mothers Day for the Maman Dion nonprofit.

 

https://www.7jours.ca/2024/03/06/claudette-dion-en-veut-a-taylor-swift-davoir-ignore-celine-aux-grammys?fbclid=IwAR3Rn325-d48y6T6AQBzIZQfxVpvj5gLaqhkHtxyluwROrWsVDUZjaaFvGY_aem_AXNkki17vi0gGKpy-C8x8XmT0skISOvN8oczUhrFIgw4VlamKzt3keT0gu9wTH1a1is

Ah when there is silence, there is always Claudette!

 

So when is the next Celine sighting/news?

 

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[Zofia]

It's unfair to want her and everyone around her to always consider the entire patient community in every sentence they utter.

 

Claudette wants the best for her sister. What anyone else thinks about that is irrelevant.

 

When one reads almost daily the posts of desperate people who are sometimes literally fighting for their lives, it strongly changes the perspective.

There are private feelings and there is a public space. What we talk about in public has public resonance, whether we want it or not. There is a difference between the statement "I love her and with all my strength I want her to recover" and the statement "She deserves to recover" - in the context of incurable disease, expensive treatment and estate of her sister's. And Céline, unlike Claudette, is well aware of this difference, because as Jacques Dion said in September: „Céline is very lucid and refuses to complain. As she says, I am surrounded by the best doctors and many others are not so lucky.”

[LukeD]

I read the following passage: Claudette trusts that doctors will find a drug that will help her sister fight the disease - "Céline deserves it, she has given more in life than she has taken," and I think other patients and their families are reading this. Of course, the sister has a right to feel that way, but the question is whether it's worth saying so publicly. Unfortunately, the real difference between Céline and the rest of the patients is not that none of them "gave more than they took" - probably many of them were as generous and hardworking as she was. The difference is fame and unlimited financial resources. If Céline gets more effective treatment than others, it's not because of her great character, but because of the money.

 

"Céline deserves it" (and others don't?) is a very unfortunate phrase.

I share a very different point of view. I do not see comparison being implied in saying that someone deserves something. Many people tend to take personally things that are not meant to be taken that way. I also do not think Claudette spoke on a pragmatic/financial level but rather a spiritual one - again focusing on her sister. Because at the end of the day, it is her that she knows. It is her that she can speak about.

[Zofia]

I do not see comparison being implied in saying that someone deserves something.

 

But it is Claudette who uses the verb "to deserve." Unfortunate, just that.

 

Many people tend to take personally things that are not meant to be taken that way.

 

If it were our or our loved ones' health and lives at stake, we would take such a statement very personally....

 

I also do not think Claudette spoke on a pragmatic/financial level but rather a spiritual one

 

But that's what I'm talking about. Claudette leaves out the financial aspect, and it is the one that is so far decisive in access to treatment. Meanwhile, the main stakeholder, Céline, is aware of her privilege and I suspect she may not be thrilled with her sister's words.

 

I realize that on the Céline fan forum I am defending a lost cause - on the SPS patient forum it would probably be the other way around. I propose just a small exercise of imagination: imagine that a person close to us suffers from an incurable and rare disease, suffers for years, struggles with disability, sticks with the insurer for reimbursement of basic services, squeezes every penny to have access to physiotherapy or nursing care sometimes. When a millionaire falls ill with the same disease, we think with slight envy: "It's sad that he does too, but nevertheless our experiences are incomparable." And then someone from the millionaire's family says in the media: "I hope the best doctors will help him recover. He deserves it, because he is a wonderful person." What do we think then? I think we would be pissed.

[Davey84]

 

 

I think we would be pissed.

 

I think you are over exaggerating. Sorry, I agree with a lot of your posts, but this was just a comment of a devoted sister. Don't make it into a bigger deal than it is.

 

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[Zofia]

I think you are over exaggerating. Sorry, I agree with a lot of your posts, but this was just a comment of a devoted sister. Don't make it into a bigger deal than it is.

 

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As they say in memes, disappointed, but not surprised I'm not insisting on anything, just responding to comments. Yes, I'm closer to the two SPS sufferers I've gotten to know personally over the past year (thanks to Céline) than I am to Claudette, although she is the sister of an artist I like. It is in their lives and struggles that I have any insight. So we will remain with our opinions.

[CelinesDIVO5]

Interesting that she considers RC an introvert. Must have taken a lot for him to speak at Rene’s funeral.

 

Also interesting that this time Claudette isn’t saying anything about what it all means for Céline’s future. Maybe she learned her lesson with her previous statements…

 

Here’s the JDM article: https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/03/06/le-manque-de-savoir-vivre-et-lattitude-cela-ne-se-fait-pas-claudette-dion-a-propos-de-taylor-swift-qui-a-ignore-celine-dion-aux-grammy

 

It was difficult for RC to speak at Rene’s funeral. Celine covered this at length in an interview, actually,

[québecflower]

But it is Claudette who uses the verb "to deserve." Unfortunate, just that.

 

 

 

If it were our or our loved ones' health and lives at stake, we would take such a statement very personally....

 

 

 

But that's what I'm talking about. Claudette leaves out the financial aspect, and it is the one that is so far decisive in access to treatment. Meanwhile, the main stakeholder, Céline, is aware of her privilege and I suspect she may not be thrilled with her sister's words.

 

I realize that on the Céline fan forum I am defending a lost cause - on the SPS patient forum it would probably be the other way around. I propose just a small exercise of imagination: imagine that a person close to us suffers from an incurable and rare disease, suffers for years, struggles with disability, sticks with the insurer for reimbursement of basic services, squeezes every penny to have access to physiotherapy or nursing care sometimes. When a millionaire falls ill with the same disease, we think with slight envy: "It's sad that he does too, but nevertheless our experiences are incomparable." And then someone from the millionaire's family says in the media: "I hope the best doctors will help him recover. He deserves it, because he is a wonderful person." What do we think then? I think we would be pissed.

the fact that Celine desaerve to have a treatment doesn't mean that others doesn't deserve it. I don't understand what makes you think it is the case. I wish that everybody finds a cure. As Claudette do probably.

[LukeD]

But it is Claudette who uses the verb "to deserve." Unfortunate, just that.

And why do you think the word 'deserve' implies comparison?

[LukeD]

I realize that on the Céline fan forum I am defending a lost cause - on the SPS patient forum it would probably be the other way around. I propose just a small exercise of imagination: imagine that a person close to us suffers from an incurable and rare disease, suffers for years, struggles with disability, sticks with the insurer for reimbursement of basic services, squeezes every penny to have access to physiotherapy or nursing care sometimes. When a millionaire falls ill with the same disease, we think with slight envy: "It's sad that he does too, but nevertheless our experiences are incomparable." And then someone from the millionaire's family says in the media: "I hope the best doctors will help him recover. He deserves it, because he is a wonderful person." What do we think then? I think we would be pissed.

I do not think what you are doing is a lost cause. This is CDF yes, but we are defending Claudette who's far from a fan favourite

 

I just do not agree that any degree of envy or anger SPS patients might feel constitutes an action point for Celine and her family. Each person is only responsible for their own experiences and well-being. What if Celine somehow gets well? Should she not celebrate publicly because SPS patients would get hurt?

[stevo]

Poor Celine can’t even have a disease in peace!

 

 

[No1IrishFan]

Posted this in the random news section but looks like Celine is in New York. New picture! I wonder why she’s there.

 

[nuts2you]

Is that RC behind her,in the white jumpsuit

[scielle]

Posted this in the random news section but looks like Celine is in New York. New picture! I wonder why she’s there.

 

 

Oh, wow. And in heels! And yes, that looks like RC.

[Davey84]

Is that RC behind her,in the white jumpsuit

Yes that's him!

 

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[Davey84]

Posted this in the random news section but looks like Celine is in New York. New picture! I wonder why she’s there.

 

I wonder if Sony still has their main office in NYC?

 

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[Nmj]

 

 

Oh, wow. And in heels! And yes, that looks like RC.

 

Celine once quoted saying the day she goes for “comfort” with shoes she’s getting old… lol

 

Still she suffers from a mobile disorder and she’s wearing heals… that’s a good sign no matter how we read it. I wonder what she’s up to? Surely she wouldn’t wear heals for a doctor appointment?

[scielle]

I wonder if Sony still has their main office in NYC?

 

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Yes they do, it’s by Madison Square Park though, not MoMA area.

[No1IrishFan]

I find the heels interesting. If she’s having good and bad days then the good days must be epic if she’s wearing heels. Surely on a good day she’d still opt for trainers or something to keep comfortable. The heels are a great sign to me.

[mirage]

Let's hope more pictures show up!

 

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[Nmj]

Can we rule out an appearance at the Oscar’s now… as some speculated… I doubt she will be flying to LA by tomorrow.

[Nmj]

 

 

Yes they do, it’s by Madison Square Park though, not MoMA area.

 

Do we know the area that pic was taken and what is around there?

[remykyes]

Can we rule out an appearance at the Oscar’s now… as some speculated… I doubt she will be flying to LA by tomorrow.

 

Well, Oscars are Sunday so she could fly out and get there Sunday morning/afternoon at the absolute latest if she is really making an appearance... I'm watching them regardless because I watch them every year but it'll be interesting to see if she surprises us again.

[mirage]

 

Well, Oscars are Sunday so she could fly out and get there Sunday morning/afternoon at the absolute latest if she is really making an appearance... I'm watching them regardless because I watch them every year but it'll be interesting to see if she surprises us again.

But being in Vegas and then fly out to LA would make more sense. Or she had some meeting in NYC.

But seeing her out and about on high heels must have been a good day.

 

Guess we will never find out what she is doing there, but would love to see some paparazzi shots.

 

 

 

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[Shamrock_1982]

Yeah Sony still have offices in New York, but this is a different part of Midtown.

 

Don’t be surprised if she pops up at Titanique next 😉

Edited March 8, 2024 at 10:44 PM by Shamrock_1982

[Nmj]

Yeah Sony still have an offices in New York, but this is a different part of Midtown.

 

Don’t be surprised if she pops up at Titanique next 😉

 

That would be awesome!

[scielle]

Yeah Sony still have offices in New York, but this is a different part of Midtown.

 

Don’t be surprised if she pops up at Titanique next 😉

 

That’s my hope! Eva Price (main producer) was at the show last night. Maybe she was doing quality control…

 

Shari Weber is in town too (see her IG). So it seems to be a professional outing, not a medical one.

 

 

[Abodi2002]

Glad to here about another appearance! New York seems quite random though. Also interesting this happens after I disappear for a few days lol.

[Nmj]

 

 

That’s my hope! Eva Price (main producer) was at the show last night. Maybe she was doing quality control…

 

Shari Weber is in town too (see her IG). So it seems to be a professional outing, not a medical one.

 

Also, can we talk about the real possibility that RC is her acting manager?

 

I find it significant… That he’s accompanying Celine with professional outings, even when the twins are not with her. I’m sure he’s also there as a supportive son… But something tells me he’s part of making arrangements.

[scielle]

Also, can we talk about the real possibility that RC is her acting manager?

 

I find it significant… That he’s accompanying Celine with professional outings, even when the twins are not with her. I’m sure he’s also there as a supportive son… But something tells me he’s part of making arrangements.

 

Certainly seems that way!