Should Céline pull another WDMHBN?

[Javito]

Another good song that came to mind today was "If Walls Could Talk". The lyrics are decent, the melody is tame, and the sound just oozes sensuality and mood. It's never been on my list of setlist must-haves, but I think it would suit her current vocal condition, while satisfying the die-hard fans' thirst for different content. Throw that in the setlist with "Reveal", and I'd be pleased!!

 

Obviously, it's all a pipe dream, but I can't wait to see the new setlist!

 

I can only thank God and René everyday for his magnificent idea of doing a full videoclip for each and almost one of the new 7 tracks in the ATW album.

 

That videoclip for If Walls Could Talk is a visual orgasm. One of her best videos after IACBTMN. Period.

[sarit_celine]

What about "Thankful"? I consider that "otherworldly".

 

It's a good song but something doesn't work for me with this one, something lacks.

[ordinary fan]

Do you really consider TC bad production? I always thought the album was one of her best in terms of music production. Surprise, Surprise, TC, This Time, EOM, FA... all these tracks were excellent! The only song that was badly produced is probably IGNL, but I still listened to that song numerous times. And overall the album had a good music video, huge promotion, cool photoshoot (maybe the photo they chose for the cover was not the best, but it had many great photos and I loved the style). LMBTL was extremelly lazy in production, I agree.

it's so interesting, how the LMBTL album is considered as bad production, bad songs, rushed production...it's one of my most listened and defenitely most favorite Celine albums, although I love every album of Celine But how are songs like LMBTL, thankful, SLS, thank you, SYS; DKL, Incredible etc bad produced or bad songs which don't fit the album. Well it's a personal opinion for everybody and it makes no sense to argue about it. But for me personally the TC or the LMBTL albums aren't more bad or better produced/made than for example the LTAL or FIY albums. They are completely different, songwise, conceptwise etc, but I don't think that the quality of the songs and albums itselfs has decreased since ANDHC, like some here are stating, this is not my opinion, but I respect it. Same goes with SSD vs EUS or D'eux vs SA.

The main thing what I want to say is, that in my opinion, not the quality of the production of the songs has changed but the songs and albums in their entirety. The songs from LTAL aren't comparable with the songs from LMBTL because those albums were made in completely different eras and the songs are completely different too. For sure Rene wanted to create the best album possible with every album, from her very first until the very last he was involved with, which was LMBTL and a bit of EUS I think.

Edited August 17, 2019 at 05:48 PM by ordinary fan

[Javito]

I don't think comparing LTAL with LMBTL albums is very appropriate I won't enter in details for the obvious reasons, but the concept of LTAL (known as the "duets album"), the big names of people participating in it and the team of songwriters and producers speaks volumes and mean it's pointless to compare these albums. It's like comparing the Titanic (never better said lol) with the little boat of my uncle Pete

 

LMBTL album was jinxed from the start. Even René looked lost when trying to explain the decision to name the album after the song Water And A Flame (look the video at 5:10, when the album was still going to be titled WAAF), saying the silly answer "you know, it's like the opposites" and Céline had to come to his rescue but she made it only worse, simply saying "it's the name of the song" :doh: . This just proves how lost they were in the creative process of this album, and the story is repeating again I'm afraid

 

Here at 3:55. Katie even remarks it's been 6 years to have a new English album, and the story repeats again now

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDNWLnrF4VA

Edited August 17, 2019 at 07:56 PM by Javito

[Chantemoi]

I don't think comparing LTAL with LMBTL albums is very appropriate I won't enter in details for the obvious reasons, but the concept of LTAL (known as the "duets album"), the big names of people participating in it and the team of songwriters and producers speaks volumes and mean it's pointless to compare these albums. It's like comparing the Titanic (never better said lol) with the little boat of my uncle Pete

 

LMBTL album was jinxed from the start. Even René looked lost when trying to explain the decision to name the album after the song Water And A Flame (look the video at 5:10, when the album was still going to be titled WAAF), saying the silly answer "you know, it's like the opposites" and Céline had to come to his rescue but she made it only worse, simply saying "it's the name of the song" :doh: . This just proves how lost they were in the creative process of this album, and the story is repeating again I'm afraid

 

Here at 3:55. Katie even remarks it's been 6 years to have a new English album, and the story repeats again now

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDNWLnrF4VA

 

Oouuf... that was painful to watch. Perhaps one of the worst interviews I’ve seen from her & René. I agree with you though: the problem with LMBTL isn’t “bad” or “lazy” production quality (except maybe Overjoyed and At Seventeen), rather a conceptual fugue that prevents cohérence on the whole project. And that’s to be expected, given René’s health (and mental state in that interview). The individual songs are pretty great, but nothing unifies them.

[Javito]

Oouuf... that was painful to watch. Perhaps one of the worst interviews I’ve seen from her & René. I agree with you though: the problem with LMBTL isn’t “bad” or “lazy” production quality (except maybe Overjoyed and At Seventeen), rather a conceptual fugue that prevents cohérence on the whole project. And that’s to be expected, given René’s health (and mental state in that interview). The individual songs are pretty great, but nothing unifies them.

 

Exactly, the coherence is nowhere to be found. I've always said this album looks more like a collection of independent songs than an "album" per se.

 

Still, there are some heavy fillers here (Save Your Soul... ) and all the Vegas covers were totally unnecessary on an album after 6 years without new music.

[mirage]

Funny she is always proud and excited with each new album.

 

But in the end she just sings 1 or 2 songs from it and thats it.

[Del]

I think BATB has had its run now. Same goes for ABM. Im not saying for ever, but you don't have to perform them each tour.

 

yes BATB is a big song and ABM get a big reaction, but they have lost their spark being performed. She has other great songs that deserve some stage time instead.

 

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Agreed, the both need to go. Especially ABM.

 

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[SuperLove4Celine]

 

 

Exactly, the coherence is nowhere to be found. I've always said this album looks more like a collection of independent songs than an "album" per se.

 

Still, there are some heavy fillers here (Save Your Soul... ) and all the Vegas covers were totally unnecessary on an album after 6 years without new music.

 

I love “Save Your Soul.” I’d love it if it were included in the upcoming tour.

[fred]

I have mixed feelings about this song. But one thing I really like is the Maroon 5 wibe. 👍

 

 

 

I love “Save Your Soul.” I’d love it if it were included in the upcoming tour.

Edited August 20, 2019 at 05:30 AM by fred

[marc-02]

https://americansongwriter.com/celine-dion-where-does-my-heart-beat-now-behind-the-song/rick-moore/

 

Never knew these about WDMHBN until now... Nice new info!

 

- the song having (a longer?) bridge

- the writers first offering the song to Jennifer Rush

- Celine copying every single thing from the demo singer's version down to the licks

- among others. Nice read!

[Davey84]

https://americansong...ong/rick-moore/

 

Never knew these about WDMHBN until now... Nice new info!

 

- the song having (a longer?) bridge

- the writers first offering the song to Jennifer Rush

- Celine copying every single thing from the demo singer's version down to the licks

- among others. Nice read!

 

Very cool article! Thanks for sharing!

 

About the longer bridge, that confirms the lines in the lyrics, published in booklet, but that aren't in the song:

 

Candle in the water - Drifting helplessly

Hiding from the thunder - Come and rescue me

Driven by hunger - Of the endless dream

I'm searching for the hand that I can hold

I'm reaching for the arms that let me know

Where do silent hearts go?

 

I know that out there somewhere

He waits for me

Someone who's searching just like me

Then one touch overcomes the silence

Love still survives

Two hearts needing one another

Give me wings to fly

I hear my heartbeat now

I hear the sound

Hear it echo through the night

 

It would be very interesting to hear that demo!

[Unisono]

 

 

Very cool article! Thanks for sharing!

 

About the longer bridge, that confirms the lines in the lyrics, published in booklet, but that aren't in the song:

 

Candle in the water - Drifting helplessly

Hiding from the thunder - Come and rescue me

Driven by hunger - Of the endless dream

I'm searching for the hand that I can hold

I'm reaching for the arms that let me know

Where do silent hearts go?

 

I know that out there somewhere

He waits for me

Someone who's searching just like me

Then one touch overcomes the silence

Love still survives

Two hearts needing one another

Give me wings to fly

I hear my heartbeat now

I hear the sound

Hear it echo through the night

 

It would be very interesting to hear that demo!

 

Here is the demo version with full bridge.

 

[Davey84]

Here is the demo version with full bridge.

 

https://youtu.be/D8zUFVbAoxA

 

Thank you!! Note for note... I wouldn't totally agree. Yeah Céline kept close to the original, but her range is far bigger than Lisa. And the ending is totally different. After hearing the bridge, I am happy they didn't keep it. Céline's version sounds way more timeless than the demo, thank god!

[jpatdeleon09]

The demo sounded 80’s

[Céline RO]

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The demo sounded 80’s

 

It is from the 80s...

 

The drums in the background remind me of John Farnham’s version of “You’re the Voice”

Edited January 7, 2020 at 03:35 PM by Céline RO

[Tom_London_Fan]

She does copy note for note a lot of performances. That performance of Summertime in 2005 comes to mind. Also, her Aretha tribute is the same as Aretha’s original recording, lick for lick

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

Thank you!! Note for note... I wouldn't totally agree. Yeah Céline kept close to the original, but her range is far bigger than Lisa. And the ending is totally different. After hearing the bridge, I am happy they didn't keep it. Céline's version sounds way more timeless than the demo, thank god!

 

 

I agree. I don’t like the original bridge, or the original final chorus.

[Unisono]

 

 

Thank you!! Note for note... I wouldn't totally agree. Yeah Céline kept close to the original, but her range is far bigger than Lisa. And the ending is totally different. After hearing the bridge, I am happy they didn't keep it. Céline's version sounds way more timeless than the demo, thank god!

 

Glad I could help! I think that this song belongs to the great tradition of 80s and early 90s power ballads. Soft rock sound. Love it. I agree with the fact that the bridge in full sound strange. Maybe it will work better in an acoustic /orchestral version that leads to the climax and the final chorus.

Edited January 7, 2020 at 07:34 PM by Unisono

[comingback]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hij_QxDkIJI

 

Amazing song. I listen to it a lot lately. This was the first song I heard of Celine in the early 90s. What an outstanding career....

Edited April 22, 2023 at 12:08 PM by comingback

[comingback]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5U_zXUu9EI&list=RDa5U_zXUu9EI&start_radio=1

 

the 4 versions of the music video

 

In the 90s, they showed the fourth version (black and white) on German Music TV.

Edited April 22, 2023 at 05:22 PM by comingback

[MaiconSC]

Very cool article! Thanks for sharing!

 

About the longer bridge, that confirms the lines in the lyrics, published in booklet, but that aren't in the song:

 

Candle in the water - Drifting helplessly

Hiding from the thunder - Come and rescue me

Driven by hunger - Of the endless dream

I'm searching for the hand that I can hold

I'm reaching for the arms that let me know

Where do silent hearts go?

 

I know that out there somewhere

He waits for me

Someone who's searching just like me

Then one touch overcomes the silence

Love still survives

Two hearts needing one another

Give me wings to fly

I hear my heartbeat now

I hear the sound

Hear it echo through the night

 

It would be very interesting to hear that demo!

 

If we hear closely to the fade out of Celine's version, she actually sings the part "I know that out there somewhere"...

So I guess she recorded those missing lyrics, but they decided to not release it...

[MaiconSC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5U_zXUu9EI&list=RDa5U_zXUu9EI&start_radio=1

 

the 4 versions of the music video

 

In the 90s, they showed the fourth version (black and white) on German Music TV.

 

My favorite version is the black and white from right/below.... it fits the cover and theme from the album in my opinion...

The performance version doesn't fit at all...

[Abodi2002]

I couldn't find a better place to share but here is better quality of the 1990 Jay Leno performance of WDMHBN. 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/13P6sL_4bb-Ih-EFNB2G5BKvyARF68qOT/view?usp=drivesdk

[dawn]

8 minutes ago, Abodi2002 said:

I couldn't find a better place to share but here is better quality of the 1990 Jay Leno performance of WDMHBN. 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/13P6sL_4bb-Ih-EFNB2G5BKvyARF68qOT/view?usp=drivesdk

Wow, the quality is amazing. Thank you for sharing Abodi2002.

[Abodi2002]

No problem. Also forgot to add, credit to ltm1997 for sharing with me!

[queenofvegas]

3 hours ago, Abodi2002 said:

I couldn't find a better place to share but here is better quality of the 1990 Jay Leno performance of WDMHBN. 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/13P6sL_4bb-Ih-EFNB2G5BKvyARF68qOT/view?usp=drivesdk

Omg. Thanks for this. Her best performance of this song by far!! Maybe one of the best in her career.

[queenofvegas]

3 hours ago, Abodi2002 said:

I couldn't find a better place to share but here is better quality of the 1990 Jay Leno performance of WDMHBN. 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/13P6sL_4bb-Ih-EFNB2G5BKvyARF68qOT/view?usp=drivesdk

Whose video was this? I might try uploading it to youtube but I'm worried it will give me a copyright strike. I'm gonna try fixing up the audio too so that it's more clear.

[Abodi2002]

32 minutes ago, queenofvegas said:

Omg. Thanks for this. Her best performance of this song by far!! Maybe one of the best in her career.

 
yeah I agree with that completely! Better than the studio version if you ask me!