Céline Dion to appear on FOX's "New Year's Eve with Steve Harvey" (2017)

[Brandon]

These NYE appearances are always boring and so bloody cheesy... for who she is now a days ( in the last year ) and the evolution in other areas of her life it just tacky/dated when done in this way... give it a miss next year C unless it's something amazing or simply different.

 

Nothing but love, but simply my feedback

Not to mention awkward

in reference to the CNN broadcast.

Edited January 2, 2018 at 02:34 AM by Brandon

[Brandon]

We really hope so, with the next new album. That is going to be her acid test in the music industry. Let's hope she doesn't put them to test with her "I don't have nothing to prove anymore" mantra, because she does. An artist always does, especially if you take 5 years to release and album. At least pretend this time you DO care about it when going to TV and on tour

And at least mention it when you do go on a talk show, instead of talking about everything under the sun, except your new album.

[celinesounds]

Sorry but that was not amazing. Cold or not cold..she cannot deliver those notes anymore and she is probably used to delivering her songs lipped but since she painfully failed last year she had to do it right this time. I think from what i heard Celine still has it and Mariah lost most of her vocal talent. Plus Celine is humble and kind. Mariah is a cold diva imo.

 

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She is Mariah a studio Artist, I'm ok with her performance, it was her best in ages...she is not Celine, she is Mariah.....you know and she is almost 50 she did a decent job, without dancers

Edited January 2, 2018 at 07:52 AM by celinesounds

[mirage]

For Mariah standards it was a good performance!

 

I liked Celine her performance though, finally something uptempo we all wanted instead of the same old ballads.

 

She finally sounded good on the song,normally she does more adlibs than singing so was happy to hear it in full. She hit the notes.

 

Only disappointment was that it was recorded at a time she couldn't do her dance moves and wear that sexy short outfit. So for me it lacked some energy but she sounded awesome.

 

Next time I would love to see her live on these programs.

[CSCfan]

Next time I would love to see her live on these programs.

 

Quoting a broken record: Vegas

[mirage]

Hopefully this is the last year

 

 

 

Quoting a broken record: Vegas

[Alex_Incognito]

Hopefully this is the last year

I would think if it were they'd make a big deal of it

[isurrender]

I have to say - no offense to anybody - but this board is getting annoying.

 

I think it's symptomatic of the world we live in. I see it everyday at work as well : take 2 guys doing the same job. One doesn't give a da** and one is a constant worker. When the first does something at best acceptable, he gets all the credits and attention.

 

Come on, look at this topic : Mariah has more reviews than Céline's perf ...on a Céline board!

 

First, Mariah has never been a stage artist. Even in her prime and even her hardcore fans ( not talking about the lambs of course) aknowledge it. There is no mindblowing performance of her, like Céline or Whitney. She was a very good singer but she mostly shined on record. Her songs were ( past tense to me, up to a certain album) so well crafted, produced and arranged, far from Céline's songs (I mean as full discography). Funny how in the 90s, Céline's albums were critized by media as being "overproduced" whereas Mariah was acclaimed while she couldn't deliver live.Mariah for sure knows how to make sound her voice the best on record (even now), better than Céline. Just listen to "Vision of love" : it sounds like it was recorded in a cave, lof of reverb etc... it could only come out flat when done live. Let alone her stage attitude which was even in her prio-diva era closed to the void and embarassing.

Céline never cared about her recording (or at best trusted her team) and nowadays , it has become random from a song to another.

 

And for the last 2 days, I've been reading here that Mariah was good and sober ( haha... yeah sure with feathers or whatever on her back LOL big times) and Céline sucked and unsurprising?

At this point, it's not even a matter of objectivity : the social networks and media has taken over some abilities here. Because let's make it clear folks : Mariah sings those songs (for those who don't follow her) on various TV shows almost every year ( Visions of love was released 30 years ago ! ) with a bunch of pre recorded notes ( so it was this year as well).

 

It was only the 4th time that RDMH was performed on US TV! Last time was 10 years ago on the "Taking Chances" CBS special ( and not live) ...otherwise we have to go back in 1998 ( 20 years ago) to hear it live on Divas live.

Back in May, I was among the ones to say that Céline's voice was at its worst status. Go back listen RDMH , she couldn't reach the "yeah yeah yeah" without her voice cracking. 5 months later , she's back with clear and powerful notes. And all we read is Mariah did a great job because she didn't fail her playback this year!

OMG: if Mariah could even sustain ONCE Céline's last RDMH note , I bet she would be enthroned Queen of the insterstellar universe of the whole Galaxy. And hitting it almost every night, a new status would be made especially for her.

 

But beside all those facts, Mariah outshined with a perf full of surprise! haha

 

And for those complaining about the pre-recorded track ( not live from that night) , there's worst : Britney's full playback performance was captured some weeks ago during the afternoon , not even during her "live" concert.

 

I think from now on , I'm gonna stick to the pinned topic with only news because what I read is beyond my understanding.

Edited January 2, 2018 at 01:53 PM by isurrender

[jpatdeleon09]

Britney Spears New Year's Eve Performance

 

She's so stiff when dancing like she's a robot. Céline is more graceful when dancing..

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaa5x5UwF6Q

[jpatdeleon09]

"...Just listen to "Vision of love" : it sounds like it was recorded in a cave, lof of reverb etc... it could only come out flat when done live.".

 

Mariah can't live without Reverb or time delay echoes. She needs it for her whistles and for belting even in live she uses it. Unlike Céline.. most of her performances we see on tv or other live performances it sounded like a mic feed. Dry. So raw.

 

Now, (2015-present) at least they use reverb in her vegas show but the reverb is not like a studio effect.. Mariah's reverb sounds like a studio in live. Maybe Céline should also focus on her sound engineer. Remember.. How Does A Moment Last Forever? It sounded so raw like a mic feed. It sounded so dry. No reverb. You can even hear the mic's noise because of the way she holds the mic. It sounded like a lapelle.

 

Before when they upload a live performance of Celine in vegas (A new day) it sounded so professional unlike now.

 

For me, Reverb is like a a healing tool in photoshop. It hides the vocal imperfections. And i like reverb than dry vocals.

 

Make it sound perfect... again!

 

Céline's A L'Olympia performance... they put a lot of reverb and it sounded so great. Why they changed that to Dry/Raw?

 

Make it sound like this again.... the sound production is amazing. Well balanced. The Vocals and The Instrumentals. And the Reverb

 

Edited January 2, 2018 at 02:53 PM by jpatdeleon09

[CelinesDIVO5]

I have to say - no offense to anybody - but this board is getting annoying.

 

I think it's symptomatic of the world we live in. I see it everyday at work as well : take 2 guys doing the same job. One doesn't give a da** and one is a constant worker. When the first does something at best acceptable, he gets all the credits and attention.

 

Come on, look at this topic : Mariah has more reviews than Céline's perf ...on a Céline board!

 

First, Mariah has never been a stage artist. Even in her prime and even her hardcore fans ( not talking about the lambs of course) aknowledge it. There is no mindblowing performance of her, like Céline or Whitney. She was a very good singer but she mostly shined on record. Her songs were ( past tense to me, up to a certain album) so well crafted, produced and arranged, far from Céline's songs (I mean as full discography). Funny how in the 90s, Céline's albums were critized by media as being "overproduced" whereas Mariah was acclaimed while she couldn't deliver live.Mariah for sure knows how to make sound her voice the best on record (even now), better than Céline. Just listen to "Vision of love" : it sounds like it was recorded in a cave, lof of reverb etc... it could only come out flat when done live. Let alone her stage attitude which was even in her prio-diva era closed to the void and embarassing.

Céline never cared about her recording (or at best trusted her team) and nowadays , it has become random from a song to another.

 

And for the last 2 days, I've been reading here that Mariah was good and sober ( haha... yeah sure with feathers or whatever on her back LOL big times) and Céline sucked and unsurprising?

At this point, it's not even a matter of objectivity : the social networks and media has taken over some abilities here. Because let's make it clear folks : Mariah sings those songs (for those who don't follow her) on various TV shows almost every year ( Visions of love was released 30 years ago ! ) with a bunch of pre recorded notes ( so it was this year as well).

 

It was only the 4th time that RDMH was performed on US TV! Last time was 10 years ago on the "Taking Chances" CBS special ( and not live) ...otherwise we have to go back in 1998 ( 20 years ago) to hear it live on Divas live.

Back in May, I was among the ones to say that Céline's voice was at its worst status. Go back listen RDMH , she couldn't reach the "yeah yeah yeah" without her voice cracking. 5 months later , she's back with clear and powerful notes. And all we read is Mariah did a great job because she didn't fail her playback this year!

OMG: if Mariah could even sustain ONCE Céline's last RDMH note , I bet she would be enthroned Queen of the insterstellar universe of the whole Galaxy. And hitting it almost every night, a new status would be made especially for her.

 

But beside all those facts, Mariah outshined with a perf full of surprise! haha

 

And for those complaining about the pre-recorded track ( not live from that night) , there's worst : Britney's full playback performance was captured some weeks ago during the afternoon , not even during her "live" concert.

 

I think from now on , I'm gonna stick to the pinned topic with only news because what I read is beyond my understanding.

 

Celine's studio vocals are pristine!! Idk what albums you are listening to that are not well produced lol. TPOL, When I Need You, WDMHBN, IYAMT, Love Doesn't Ask Why, among many others...these songs don't sound well produced to you?

[zuv]

Britney Spears New Year's Eve Performance

 

She's so stiff when dancing like she's a robot. Céline is more graceful when dancing

 

She’s been stiff ever since she turned crazy. She’s overusing her arms to compensate for the lack of dance.

 

Still love her music though! Haha but i wouldnt pay to see her wave her arms at me, lipsynching her to her actual albums.

At least Celine lipsynch to recent live recordings haha

[isurrender]

Celine's studio vocals are pristine!! Idk what albums you are listening to that are not well produced lol. TPOL, When I Need You, WDMHBN, IYAMT, Love Doesn't Ask Why, among many others...these songs don't sound well produced to you?

 

That's not what I meant.

Céline's vocals on record are "raw" and simple. She comes in the studio and records the song. And that's it.

 

Mariah uses more harmonies, subtle vocal melodies in the background and tricky vocal arrangements, there's work behind it...and most of the time, she is the one to do it.

that's why her live perf are flat. She doesn't have 5 mouths to sing all the layers lol

 

Only a few songs of Céline have this feature.

 

Mariah's reverb sounds like a studio in live.

 

Because most of the time, on belting, they are pre-recorded notes.

But I agree with you Céline's sound engineer is a disaster.

Listen to "Purple rain" we had some weeks ago...

I truly think unprofessional stuff are better.

And that's why I don't chase after released live show for the last 2 tours like many of people here. I'd rather have nothing than something awful.

First, they can't choose the right night to record it, then Céline doesn't make any effort when she knows it's captured and then editing is so bad...

Iphone recordings make me happy.

Edited January 2, 2018 at 04:11 PM by isurrender

[Tyler1991]

Whatever logic was used to say rdmh has only been performed on tv 4 times and therefore we should be happy about it has to be the most mindless statement someone has made here.

 

As for Mariah, she was pumped up before the event to be a highlight....of course she is going to naturally receive some discussion. She was alright. She showed up and was there. Believe it or not, but it makes a world's difference. Look at immortality this year in front of Barry gibb...that was nice. Imagine how pissed we would be if they showed satellite from Vegas. That would have been as remembered as this will be... It was more worthwhile to discuss than a 6 week old performance that was recorded while wearing a back brace in the improper outfit. The one high note was nice. The belts were generally decent. The ending note was correct. Overall okay performance. I've seen worse of rdmh.

[isurrender]

Whatever logic was used to say rdmh has only been performed on tv 4 times and therefore we should be happy about it has to be the most mindless statement someone has made here.

 

LOL

 

Sure, your statement is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more convincing. Everybody is convinced. Your arguments to state your case are really solid.

Oh wait, there's no argument at all after stating it's mindless.

 

And on top of it, I've never ever said that. Your should really learn to read.

[Dancing_Queen]

@isurrender

 

I completely agree with you. Artists like Mariah and (especially) Britney have set the bar so ridiculously low for themselves that they tend to get praised if they don't make a fool of themselves.

But I'm convinced that in the end, people will always respect hard workers more. The 'stans' might give you a different picture, but Céline is WAY more respected than those two put together.

 

And I agree, Céline's Fox-appearance was totally fine, pretty good even. I'd say the general public enjoyed it too (they don't know what it's supposed to look like anyway).

 

The CNN-appearance on the other hand was tragic. But I'm pretty sure no one blames Céline for that...

 

[Javito]

That's not what I meant.

Céline's vocals on record are "raw" and simple. She comes in the studio and records the song. And that's it.

 

Mariah uses more harmonies, subtle vocal melodies in the background and tricky vocal arrangements, there's work behind it...and most of the time, she is the one to do it.

that's why her live perf are flat. She doesn't have 5 mouths to sing all the layers lol

 

Only a few songs of Céline have this feature.

 

THIS. Enough bitching with Mariah now. I'm not a fan of her and you all now I deffend Céline and what I love of Céline to death, but the time Mariah spends doing one of her best albums in the 90s (and even recently) with all the vocals and adlibs and nuances she includes is more than any time Céline will ever spend recording five of them

 

I grant Mariah is not impressive on stage recently, but she's been and still is a studio animal. She won't record an album in one week like Céline usually did (hopefully that's about to change for the upcoming English album).

Edited January 2, 2018 at 09:09 PM by Javito

[Xpresso]

Hey, it's not Céline's fault if she can nail vocals in a few takes in the studio!!!

With Céline, the most-time consuming has to be the production... unlike Mariah (who probably tries to sing the same thing 40 times then all that reverb production!!)

[CelinesDIVO5]

I wouldn't call Mariah a studio monster now. A lot of the post production is putting filters and auto tune on her voice to make it sound presentable, whereas in the 90s she could actually go into a studio and lay down a vocal and it actually purely be her voice in the end. Not so much anymore.

[Javito]

Hey, it's not Céline's fault if she can nail vocals in a few takes in the studio!!!

With Céline, the most-time consuming has to be the production... unlike Mariah (who probably tries to sing the same thing 40 times then all that reverb production!!)

 

She can, but she admits she doesn't rehearse her songs in the studio unless required (and apparently it's not something she particularly enjoys), and because of that, she tends to deliver better live performances of the songs than the studio versions (at least that's what happened in the 90s and until not long ago). Not that the studio versions aren't good (of course they're outstanding!), but for example albums like TCOML or the whole D'eux converted in Live à Paris she really surpassed the studio versions when taken to the live shows... why? Besides her vocal conditions, which were flawless between 1993-1996, it's also because she included variations and little changes here and there in the songs that improved the studio versions. That she could have recorded in the studio if she had taken for time to rehearse and study the songs.

 

If she took more time in the studio to be creative and come up with ideas, some of her songs would have been more ellaborated and richer in details and nuances than what the flat versions they are, which usually consist of her main voice and that's it (talking about albums recorded from 2007 to the present time for example).

 

It comes to my mind songs like most of the LMBTL album, the disastrous studio version of TSMGO, the poorly executed studio version of Open Arms, etc.

 

To name an example, she barely includes her own choirs or background vocals, when in the 90s she used to do them. Of course, that takes time to record...

Edited January 2, 2018 at 10:02 PM by Javito

[nuts2you]

you need to give up on the 90s, we are in the 2018, so pls drop it will you,

[québecflower]

She can, but she admits she doesn't rehearse her songs in the studio unless required (and apparently it's not something she particularly enjoys), and because of that, she tends to deliver better live performances of the songs than the studio versions (at least that's what happened in the 90s and until not long ago). Not that the studio versions aren't good (of course they're outstanding!), but for example albums like TCOML or the whole D'eux converted in Live à Paris she really surpassed the studio versions when taken to the live shows... why? Besides her vocal conditions, which were flawless between 1993-1996, it's also because she included variations and little changes here and there in the songs that improved the studio versions. That she could have recorded in the studio if she had taken for time to rehearse and study the songs.

 

If she took more time in the studio to be creative and come up with ideas, some of her songs would have been more ellaborated and richer in details and nuances than what the flat versions they are, which usually consist of her main voice and that's it (talking about albums recorded from 2007 to the present time for example).

 

It comes to my mind songs like most of the LMBTL album, the disastrous studio version of TSMGO, the poorly executed studio version of Open Arms, etc.

 

To name an example, she barely includes her own choirs or background vocals, when in the 90s she used to do them. Of course, that takes time to record...

she wants the emotion to still be there when she sings the song , something that would be less possible if she reherse to death. This is not by being lazy.

[Brandon]

you need to give up on the 90s, we are in the 2018, so pls drop it will you,

lol

[jpatdeleon09]

Yeah! we are in 2018 the "Dry Vocals" era? No!

[Javito]

you need to give up on the 90s, we are in the 2018, so pls drop it will you,

 

It has nothing to do with recording times... lol. Someone pointed out how rich are Mariah's recordings in terms of vocals and layers and I just recalled their recording methods are different.

 

Also Mariah is a producer, which denotes the "overly" produced songs she delivers. Not that her vocals are the best because she does many different voices, but nobody can deny she spends some time in the studio when recording!

[marc-02]

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/8085839/celine-dion-lady-gaga-vegas-residency-advice

[scielle]

Amusing how many media outlets picked up on that Gaga comment and made it into a story.

[Xpresso]

Basically Céline was on CNN to promote Lady Gaga's Vegas residency...

[Javito]

Exactly! Apparently that's all what Céline's performance and participation in this TV show provided

[DionFanAlways]

Basically Céline was on CNN to promote Lady Gaga's Vegas residency...

She's always been good at that!