Céline Dion Live 2017 (tour) - Official Topic

[actofcontrition]

You really think they made a list of all the cities for the tour at the beginning and then they choose 3-4 cities to hide them to the fans lol

 

If they are announcing those cities now its only because they are still negotiating to extend the tour due to the demand!

[brendanm999]

Personally, I don't think Celine will be performing in Vegas until at least November, if not 2018. It's April now and there hasn't been announcement for September-November shows, and last year they were announced in February. I wonder if they're planning on touring Asia in the fall?

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

That's true and adding dates is great but all countries should be announced at the same time, that's the way it always used to be!

 

Not necessarily. It's about supply and demand. If they see a bunch of people from one country buying tickets to go elsewhere, the assumption would be that she's wanted in that country. The people who are traveling to another country, aren't the only people willing to buy tickets. They may just be the only ones who could afford what was available. If they see enough people doing so, it's only logical that they book a date in that country. It's business. It's not a matter of being fair or not.

Edited April 1, 2017 at 06:54 PM by CelinesDIVO5

[angelil78]

Looking at the Colosseum schedule they have already announced various shows through out the year

 

September 2, 3,6,8,9,13,14, 15,16,17, Booked for Rod Steward, Jeff Dunham, Glora Trevi vs Alejandra Guzmán, Enrique Iglesias.

 

October 22,29 booked for Joe Bonamassa and Steve Martin and Martin Short

 

November 29th Reba, Brooks & Dunn

 

Dec 1, 2,5, 8, 9 , Reba Brooks & Dunn.

 

That leaves September 17th - October 21st and October 30th-November 29th free for Céline.

[Javito]

Happy for the Scottish fans, and sad at the same time. I find it kind of disrespectful to keep doing this, after 3 months since the official tour plan was announced

 

You really think they made a list of all the cities for the tour at the beginning and then they choose 3-4 cities to hide them to the fans lol

 

If they are announcing those cities now its only because they are still negotiating to extend the tour due to the demand!

 

Yeah, but there's a limit. There's a fine line between business and avidity, and with this actions Céline's team is only showing their hunger for business and little respect to those Scottish fans who already purchased tickets for another country months ago.

 

I mean, there has to be a stop or a closing date for negotiations. We're not talking about days or weeks later as happened in February, when more dates were announced for Paris and London (to name a few cities) a few days after the tour was announced. We're 3 months later since that!

 

Not necessarily. It's about supply and demand. If they see a bunch of people from one country buying tickets to go elsewhere, the assumption would be that she's wanted in that country. The people who are traveling to another country, aren't the only people willing to buy tickets. They may just be the only ones who could afford what was available. If they see enough people doing so, it's only logical that they book a date in that country. It's business. It's not a matter of being fair or not.

 

A tour is not arranged that way. Or shall we say, that these are the new ways they arrange Celine tours nowadays? It's business today, but it was also business back in 1997, 1999 and 2008, and they didn't keep adding dates off their sleeves weeks after the first dates had been announced.

 

I don't know any other artist of the scale of Céline that does this thing, either. I've never seen Madonna nor Beyonce nor big bands like Coldplay adding new dates in the same cities, coming back to the same place a month later like Céline is doing in London.

 

This may be their new business strategy, but it's not the fair game and definitely not how they've handling her tours before.

Edited April 1, 2017 at 07:49 PM by Javito

[CelinesDIVO5]

Delete Edited April 1, 2017 at 08:41 PM by CelinesDIVO5

[CelinesDIVO5]

Happy for the Scottish fans, and sad at the same time. I find it kind of disrespectful to keep doing this, after 3 months since the official tour plan was announced

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, but there's a limit. There's a fine line between business and avidity, and with this actions Céline's team is only showing their hunger for business and little respect to those Scottish fans who already purchased tickets for another country months ago.

 

I mean, there has to be a stop or a closing date for negotiations. We're not talking about days or weeks later as happened in February, when more dates were announced for Paris and London (to name a few cities) a few days after the tour was announced. We're 3 months later since that!

 

 

 

A tour is not arranged that way. Or shall we say, that these are the new ways they arrange Celine tours nowadays? It's business today, but it was also business back in 1997, 1999 and 2008, and they didn't keep adding dates off their sleeves weeks after the first dates had been announced.

 

I don't know any other artist of the scale of Céline that does this thing, either. I've never seen Madonna nor Beyonce nor big bands like Coldplay adding new dates in the same cities, coming back to the same place a month later like Céline is doing in London.

 

This may be their new business strategy, but it's not the fair game and definitely not how they've handling her tours before.

 

Barbra Streisand was just nearly done with her tour, and they're bringing her back to New York City, in two venues no less, for tail end added dates, due to the demand of people wanting to see her.

 

Cher's "Farewell Tour" in the early 2000s was never meant to go on as long as it did. She was in demand and they kept adding dates, and in some cases, bringing her back to cities she'd already been to. It's not an uncommon practice to add dates later that originally weren't part of the initial tour dates.

Edited April 1, 2017 at 08:45 PM by CelinesDIVO5

[isurrender]

Sorry to say but we don't know anything about how things are negotiated.

There's no use to take side ...whatever the side is.

 

What really strikes me is the ones who think it's disrespectful towards Scottish fans who have already bought tickets elsewhere.

I mean... I didn't read any empathy for the "forgotten" Scottish fans who can't make it to another place when Scotland was completely ignored...

 

[SuperLove4Celine]

It would be nice to see Spain (or Portugal), Greece and Turkey added. I do wish the Istanbul concert during TCWT wouldn't have been cancelled. It would have been cool to have had a DVD from there.

[Javito]

Barbra Streisand was just nearly done with her tour, and they're bringing her back to New York City, in two venues no less, for tail end added dates, due to the demand of people wanting to see her.

 

Cher's "Farewell Tour" in the early 2000s was never meant to go on as long as it did. She was in demand and they kept adding dates, and in some cases, bringing her back to cities she'd already been to. It's not an uncommon practice to add dates later that originally weren't part of the initial tour dates.

 

Ah, "nearly done", you said it Not a couple of weeks after announcing and selling tickets for the first dates, as Céline does

 

One thing is to offer more dates once the tour is going on, or near its completion, due to high demand, and another different thing is to release more dates and tickets some weeks after the initial tour dates have been announced, and puzzling fans who already have scheduled their vacations but maybe those new dates were more convenient for them.

 

And then comes announcing a new city in the other corner of the country, when everyone thought "that was it". What would be next, announcing cities in the US for all those US fans that are coming all the way to Europe? (of course I know that won't happen because of Vegas contract, but who knows with Céline...)

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

Ah, "nearly done", you said it Not a couple of weeks after announcing and selling tickets for the first dates, as Céline does

 

One thing is to offer more dates once the tour is going on, or near its completion, due to high demand, and another different thing is to release more dates and tickets some weeks after the initial tour dates have been announced, and puzzling fans who already have scheduled their vacations but maybe those new dates were more convenient for them.

 

And then comes announcing a new city in the other corner of the country, when everyone thought "that was it". What would be next, announcing cities in the US for all those US fans that are coming all the way to Europe? (of course I know that won't happen because of Vegas contract, but who knows with Céline...)

 

And then you had Cher's farewell tour...which was initially a 59 date tour. Ended up being 325 dates by the end. Which was due to demand.

 

They don't withhold dates for concerts almost 2 months after the original announcement and sales. Especially on a mini tour. What would be the point of that? They see that people want her, so they work around the numbers they see coming in. Not that it's not a dead giveaway that people would want to see her, but they have to also take into consideration the economic climate. Who will be able to afford to go to her show? Do the tickets sell fast? They also have to monitor the second party sellers. It's all about money. They can't just book her for all of these dates if they aren't sure. They pick the sure fire places they know she will sell, and take it from there. It's smart business.

[SuperLove4Celine]

 

 

And then you had Cher's farewell tour...which was initially a 59 date tour. Ended up being 325 dates by the end. Which was due to demand.

 

They don't withhold dates for concerts almost 2 months after the original announcement and sales. Especially on a mini tour. What would be the point of that? They see that people want her, so they work around the numbers they see coming in. Not that it's not a dead giveaway that people would want to see her, but they have to also take into consideration the economic climate. Who will be able to afford to go to her show? Do the tickets sell fast? They also have to monitor the second party sellers. It's all about money. They can't just book her for all of these dates if they aren't sure. They pick the sure fire places they know she will sell, and take it from there. It's smart business.

 

I've wondered if the reason the Istanbul date for the TCWT was cancelled was due to economic reasons, or due to security reasons. Does anyone know?

 

(Off topic, I know. Sorry.)

Edited April 2, 2017 at 01:52 AM by SuperLove4Celine

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

I've wondered if the reason the Istanbul date for the TCWT was cancelled was due to economic reasons, or due to security reasons. Does anyone know?

 

(Off topic, I know. Sorry.)

 

My assumption would be security reasons.

[Krys]

And then you had Cher's farewell tour...which was initially a 59 date tour. Ended up being 325 dates by the end. Which was due to demand.

 

They don't withhold dates for concerts almost 2 months after the original announcement and sales. Especially on a mini tour. What would be the point of that? They see that people want her, so they work around the numbers they see coming in. Not that it's not a dead giveaway that people would want to see her, but they have to also take into consideration the economic climate. Who will be able to afford to go to her show? Do the tickets sell fast? They also have to monitor the second party sellers. It's all about money. They can't just book her for all of these dates if they aren't sure. They pick the sure fire places they know she will sell, and take it from there. It's smart business.

 

Agreed. Even Coldplay's concerts were like that. I had some friends who bought tickets to see them all the way in Australia. Then they announced Singapore and Bangkok shows. It's normal...

[angelil78]

I get why Scottish fans who are making their way to other cities in UK to see Céline are upset.

Personally I'd max my card out, take a loan, rob a bank to see her in Glasgow as well if I was in that position. And take the consequence later

Before you take my head off, I know people have to be more responsible than that and it's not an option for most (not me either..)

 

I know 2 Scottish fans, one from Glasgow and one from Dundee that could not make it to the other UK dates for various reasons and are now over the moon happy and crossing their fingers that Céline will perform in August.

 

I do think there are more people than not that are happy about this new venue. And seriously, we don't know why they are adding this venue now. So going into too much guessing and being upset about speculation will not help really.

[Lolo88]

I have a feeling she'll sing some gems from "One Heart" and "Taking Chances" for this summer tour 😎

[Celinefan1993]

It's all about money. They can't just book her for all of these dates if they aren't sure. They pick the sure fire places they know she will sell, and take it from there. It's smart business.

 

Then they should have better think twice about adding an extra concert in Berlin on the 23rd. That gig is still on sale with maybe 35/40% of the tickets left. That's huge for her. 24/7 is nearly sold out with maybe 5% tickets left. Then I'd rather saw that they added another concert in the Netherlands par example where the tickets sold out in 10 minutes. Allthough they added about a 1000 tickets afterwards... lol. Or indeed, as the fans say, in Spain or something. That would be exclusive for a tour! I think she would be highly expected over there and sell out a concert maybe in less than one hour too!

[Krys]

Then they should have better think twice about adding an extra concert in Berlin on the 23rd. That gig is still on sale with maybe 35/40% of the tickets left. That's huge for her. 24/7 is nearly sold out with maybe 5% tickets left. Then I'd rather saw that they added another concert in the Netherlands par example where the tickets sold out in 10 minutes. Allthough they added about a 1000 tickets afterwards... lol. Or indeed, as the fans say, in Spain or something. That would be exclusive for a tour! I think she would be highly expected over there and sell out a concert maybe in less than one hour too!

 

The problem is not Celine's team. The problem is with the concert organizers in each individual country. The organizers are the ones requesting/adding more dates. All Celine's team is doing is coordinating with them. Perhaps the one in Berlin fancied another date, so they got it. If it were up to Celine's team, do you really think she wouldn't want to do shows in every single country on the face of the earth?

Edited April 2, 2017 at 02:06 PM by Krys

[Celinefan1993]

The problem is not Celine's team. The problem is with the concert organizers in each individual country. The organizers are the ones requesting/adding more dates. All Celine's team is doing is coordinating with them. Perhaps the one in Berlin fancied another date, so they got it. If it were up to Celine's team, do you really think she wouldn't want to do shows in every single country on the face of the earth?

 

I think it lies in the middle... There are a lot of more countries where the fanbase is huge and the demand is high. Think about Poland or par example Ireland. They are not (yet) in this tour right now. I won't believe you when you would say that the tour promotors skipped in Ireland and didn't show to participate to let Céline perform in Dublin when she herself always said it is her lucky town and she has sold out quickly different times. So, no, the truth is in the middle. If it comes to Céline, no, I think she wouldn't matter. As it is for the money, then yes, then her team would say no. I mean: How long is South-America already asking for concerts? The demand after her is big and the organizers do know this as well. So, I like your argumentation but I do not fully agree with you ;o) x

[CelinesDIVO5]

 

 

Then they should have better think twice about adding an extra concert in Berlin on the 23rd. That gig is still on sale with maybe 35/40% of the tickets left. That's huge for her. 24/7 is nearly sold out with maybe 5% tickets left. Then I'd rather saw that they added another concert in the Netherlands par example where the tickets sold out in 10 minutes. Allthough they added about a 1000 tickets afterwards... lol. Or indeed, as the fans say, in Spain or something. That would be exclusive for a tour! I think she would be highly expected over there and sell out a concert maybe in less than one hour too!

 

Are the Berlin tickets not selling well because of price with 2nd party vendors though??

[joaofilho]

If it is a tour through Europe, the demand for it is great, I think some countries are missing, and it is tin that they have not put places like Ireland and Belgium, there is no audience for their shows in those places ??? weird?. Also once again missed places like Portugal, Spain, Italy, Poland (on Tc tour was great), Greece.

 

All of these places I'm sure could have been an audience success, but once I do not know why they simply ignore. They could do a show in every big city in those countries.

 

See Céline in South America, I do not even dream, I think she'll never come here, nor to promote her albums.

[angelil78]

The Glasgow concert will be announced tomorrow.

I wonder if the tickets go on sale immediately or we will be given some warning.

And hopefully there will be TC pre sale.

I'm not buying tickets but getting stressed out for my friends

 

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[Shaun]

I'd be very surprised if there wasn't a Team Celine pre-sale for Glasgow. I can imagine it will start Wednesday with the general sale beginning on Friday. Looking at the tour schedule I can only imagine the Glasgow show will take place after Birmingham so I'm thinking August 5th or around then. Edited April 3, 2017 at 02:42 PM by Shaun

[Celinefan1993]

I'd be very surprised if there wasn't a Team Celine pre-sale for Glasgow. I can imagine it will start Wednesday with the general sale beginning on Friday. Looking at the tour schedule I can only imagine the Glasgow show will take place after Birmingham so I'm thinking August 5th or around then.

 

Or perhaps maybe between Manchester and Bordeaux?

[Celinefan1993]

If it is a tour through Europe, the demand for it is great, I think some countries are missing, and it is tin that they have not put places like Ireland and Belgium, there is no audience for their shows in those places ??? weird?. Also once again missed places like Portugal, Spain, Italy, Poland (on Tc tour was great), Greece.

 

All of these places I'm sure could have been an audience success, but once I do not know why they simply ignore. They could do a show in every big city in those countries.

 

See Céline in South America, I do not even dream, I think she'll never come here, nor to promote her albums.

 

I feel sorry for you. Why would she never come to South-America? Does anybody know that? She has promoted always rare promos out there. And Belgium is skipped this year because she went there in 2013 and 2016. Lille is about an hour drive from Antwerp I think. From the place where I live, on the border between the Netherlands and Belgium, it's only 1,5 hour so, it's not that far. For sure we want to see her doing more concerts but, as far as I can see, her schedule is freaking tight!! Is anyone else a bit concerned about that too..? Anyhow, I hope you will see Céline as well soon and I will pray for you she comes to SA soon :-)

Edited April 3, 2017 at 04:06 PM by Celinefan1993

[CelineTheBest5]

I hope she doesn´t get sick!

[Shaun]

Confirmed - August 5th for Glasgow.

[Celinefan1993]

Confirmed - August 5th for Glasgow.

 

I saw it too.. Too bad though.. Really wanted to attend the last show! Now I hope for maybe an extra show in Dublin so she ends the tour there... lol! If I only knew this a few months ago, then I didn't order my ticket for Birmingham...

[Davey84]

I hope she'll add Antwerpen too after Berlin

[angelil78]

I saw it too.. Too bad though.. Really wanted to attend the last show! Now I hope for maybe an extra show in Dublin so she ends the tour there... lol! If I only knew this a few months ago, then I didn't order my ticket for Birmingham...

 

I've heard Dublin will be after Glasgow