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[Taking Chances]

Oh my god. I know some of Celine's performances are lipped, but oh my god Mariah Carey just destroyed whats left of her career! I am glad Celine has more class than this, this would be a nightmare if this was Celine. I feel like her team is way more professional than Mariah's team. Mariah has a reality series on E! for christ sake.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp7K37eJrV0

[justinecoria]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-wL_mVE3VQ

 

Here's the whole performance. To be fair, it's not all Mariah's fault, as on stage she cannot hear much, especially for such songs where the audience just screams. I also suppose that they couldn't stop the performance as they were getting close to midnight's countdown. What is really bad for Mariah is that it totally exposed the pre-recorded track and the fact that she was not planning to sing those high notes or WBT.

 

I wonder how Celine would have reacted, because Celine does the exact same thing as Mariah. Use pre-recorded tracks that sound kinda live to trick the audience, sing parts of the song live, play-back some other parts. Celine already had such problems but she had audio feedback and she could pretend she was still singing when the audio track was going crazy. I guess what Celine would have done is to try to outsing the pre-recorded track to show that she can sing, which is what Mariah should have done too. It looked very unprofessional.

Edited January 1, 2017 at 06:54 PM by justinecoria

[Taking Chances]

Here's the whole performance. To be fair, it's not all Mariah's fault, as on stage she cannot hear much, especially for such songs where the audience just screams. I also suppose that they couldn't stop the performance as they were getting close to midnight's countdown. What is really bad for Mariah is that it totally exposed the pre-recorded track and the fact that she was not planning to sing those high notes or WBT.

 

I wonder how Celine would have reacted, because Celine does the exact same thing as Mariah. Use pre-recorded tracks that sound kinda live to trick the audience, sing parts of the song live, play-back some other parts. Celine already had such problems but she had audio feedback and she could pretend she was still singing when the audio track was going crazy. I guess what Celine would have done is to try to outsing the pre-recorded track to show that she can sing, which is what Mariah should have done too. It looked very unprofessional.

 

I don't actually blame her for using pre-recorded vocals, but after I watched her show on E! I totally get why this would kind of happen. Her team, they all seems like they want to be famous. Everything seems to be very chaotic, and Mariah doesn't really do much either. The obvious thing here though, is that Mariah can't sing. I don't expect her to sound like she used to, but she should still be able to sing to some degree to maybe save herself from career suicide if something like this happen. Her voice must be destroyed to not be able to sing at all.

 

Celine can at least still sing, so it wouldn't be so terrible. But this is a disaster.

[québecflower]

I don't actually blame her for using pre-recorded vocals, but after I watched her show on E! I totally get why this would kind of happen. Her team, they all seems like they want to be famous. Everything seems to be very chaotic, and Mariah doesn't really do much either. The obvious thing here though, is that Mariah can't sing. I don't expect her to sound like she used to, but she should still be able to sing to some degree to maybe save herself from career suicide if something like this happen. Her voice must be destroyed to not be able to sing at all.

 

Celine can at least still sing, so it wouldn't be so terrible. But this is a disaster.

i listened to one program of Mariah serie on E . They arrived late for a show because someone in her team miscalculated the time zone. We see right there their level of competence....

[Holycrap!05]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-wL_mVE3VQ

 

Here's the whole performance. To be fair, it's not all Mariah's fault, as on stage she cannot hear much, especially for such songs where the audience just screams. I also suppose that they couldn't stop the performance as they were getting close to midnight's countdown. What is really bad for Mariah is that it totally exposed the pre-recorded track and the fact that she was not planning to sing those high notes or WBT.

 

I wonder how Celine would have reacted, because Celine does the exact same thing as Mariah. Use pre-recorded tracks that sound kinda live to trick the audience, sing parts of the song live, play-back some other parts. Celine already had such problems but she had audio feedback and she could pretend she was still singing when the audio track was going crazy. I guess what Celine would have done is to try to outsing the pre-recorded track to show that she can sing, which is what Mariah should have done too. It looked very unprofessional.

 

I didn't know Celine already had that kind of problems... when ?

[justinecoria]

i listened to one program of Mariah serie on E . They arrived late for a show because someone in her team miscalculated the time zone. We see right there their level of competence....

Don't believe everything you see on a reality show. They make up stories that end well, just to make it more interesting.

It is true that Mariah cares less than Celine, but I also think that play-backing on a track that is from the 1980s or the 1990s is quite unprofessional too.

What happened to Mariah could have happened to Celine. Dance With My Father is an example, but then she could hear the music because the crowd was quiet. Or that time when she had to sing the beginning of I Drove All Night live and butchered that high note. Or when there was a problem with MHWGO and she couldn't stop because the track was still on, so she had to pretend singing and at the same time asking for the track to stop. And then the problem is solved, she sings the playback, makes movements of relief but still has to mimic.

Mariah's pre-recorded tracks are a little more elaborated that Celine's in the sense that she usually goes from live to pre-recorded then back to live etc. And she uses a lot of different pre-recorded tracks. This also explains why there's been more problems with Mariah with Celine, but I can totally imagine Celine being on stage and not be able to hear anything, the music, the playback. And I don't know what Celine would do, because it looks like they couldn't stop everything either as they were close to the midnight countdown.

Edited January 1, 2017 at 10:15 PM by justinecoria

[celine4evauk]

Wasn't the Dance With My Father incident just the fact that Celine's mic wasn't working?? They gave her another one and they began the song again. Or did I miss something? 😂

[nuts2you]

I sure would LOVE TO have an interview of someone asking her what her Opinion on MC situation was on NYE , and how she copes with it,

[nuts2you]

My god this Video ,is all over the inter- net everywhere, and the comments are really

[CelineDionFreak]

Wasn't the Dance With My Father incident just the fact that Celine's mic wasn't working?? They gave her another one and they began the song again. Or did I miss something? 😂

It was both that her mic and in ears weren't working. She tried singing and the mic wouldn't work, and she couldn't hear anything, so I think she thought the mic worked, but then they ran up another mic and it worked but the in ears were still out and she went off what she could hear off the piano. I think she did a phenomenal job!

[Scramasboy]

I think what is obvious here is Mariah expected each track to be a full lip sync and when the audio track came on, and she had to sing live, she couldn't, and it was a disaster, she freaked out, "this is not what we rehearsed!" She tried to do a note here and there, and couldn't. She tried to get the audience to sing, if they could hear, right next to her, I imagine she could hear something. Then We Belong Together came on, and she was lipping it alright, then just said f*** it, and stopped, dropped the mic, and lipped some, dropped... she was having her own meltdown of sorts. Sorry, but that would NEVER happen to Celine. First, Celine would rehearse, obviously, and she would have done her very best to ensure proper lipping, if she was going to lip, and if the audio was off or the track didn't start, she would do her best and sing, as she has done in the past. I know she did that with Alone on the TCWT, and I Drove All Night on the TCWT (where she obviously couldn't hear herself). I just think Celine would have handled this much better.

[LukeD]

This performance brought in mind my very first post on the forum 5 years ago. It was about the Walmart performance of Celine and how I disliked the fact that she would agree to take part in small gigs without the intention to sing live. I remember doubting her artistic ambition, but Celine proved me wrong with following studio recordinds and live performances.

 

Mariah is another case though. I used to be a fan of hers years ago, but I do not follow her anymore. The reasons for this change relate to Mariah as a person and as professional, and this performance perfectly sums them up. I have watched it a couple times already and I still cannot find an excuse for her attitude and total lack of professionalism. I seriously do not understand what she was supposed to do there.

 

I regard Mariah as a desperate singer who lives in the shadow of her former self. She is not a legend in my books, because legends have got to stay true to the things that made them legendary once. I see none of these elements in Mariah. And I think she will never recover from this performance.

Edited January 2, 2017 at 02:39 AM by LukeD

[justinecoria]

I think what is obvious here is Mariah expected each track to be a full lip sync and when the audio track came on, and she had to sing live, she couldn't, and it was a disaster, she freaked out, "this is not what we rehearsed!" She tried to do a note here and there, and couldn't. She tried to get the audience to sing, if they could hear, right next to her, I imagine she could hear something. Then We Belong Together came on, and she was lipping it alright, then just said f*** it, and stopped, dropped the mic, and lipped some, dropped... she was having her own meltdown of sorts. Sorry, but that would NEVER happen to Celine. First, Celine would rehearse, obviously, and she would have done her very best to ensure proper lipping, if she was going to lip, and if the audio was off or the track didn't start, she would do her best and sing, as she has done in the past. I know she did that with Alone on the TCWT, and I Drove All Night on the TCWT (where she obviously couldn't hear herself). I just think Celine would have handled this much better.

There's so many things that you're saying are obvious which are clearly not though. The problem with I Drove All Night for Celine was that the pre-recorded track did not kick in. It was not an ear monitor problem. The song was at a too high key for her to sing live, which is fine when you playback, not when you sing live, especially unexpectedly... That's why the shaky parts.

 

Also, here, I don't see that Mariah expected a full lip-sync. Some vocals were probably missing as she said but she **started** **singing** Emotions. It's just that when you have thousands of people screaming, the music being super loud, and your ear monitors are not working, you just don't hear yourself at all. It's hard to focus and sing. Celine did it for Dance With My Father, but then there was almost no music, and everyone was quiet.

Of course, Mariah behaved like a diva, waited for the ear monitors to work and it did not happen. At the same time, she was not diva enough to stop everything. And then she was pissed and didn't care, and that was very unprofessional.

What I think Celine would have done, would have been to stop it all. Just say: 'Stop, the monitors are not working, let's redo it'. And they should have stopped everything, which is something they do all the time. Except that it was close to the midnight countdown, they were on a tight schedule and stopping everything probably seemed a bit complicated to do.

 

I agree with Luke though that Mariah lives in the shadow of her former self. I think her Vegas show is a catastrophe. But when you think about it, what happened yesterday could have happened to Celine too.

Edited January 2, 2017 at 03:04 AM by justinecoria

[Celinex]

She was shocking last night.They should have got Kylie Minogue to perform she sings live.

[québecflower]

Don't believe everything you see on a reality show. They make up stories that end well, just to make it more interesting.

It is true that Mariah cares less than Celine, but I also think that play-backing on a track that is from the 1980s or the 1990s is quite unprofessional too.

What happened to Mariah could have happened to Celine. Dance With My Father is an example, but then she could hear the music because the crowd was quiet. Or that time when she had to sing the beginning of I Drove All Night live and butchered that high note. Or when there was a problem with MHWGO and she couldn't stop because the track was still on, so she had to pretend singing and at the same time asking for the track to stop. And then the problem is solved, she sings the playback, makes movements of relief but still has to mimic.

Mariah's pre-recorded tracks are a little more elaborated that Celine's in the sense that she usually goes from live to pre-recorded then back to live etc. And she uses a lot of different pre-recorded tracks. This also explains why there's been more problems with Mariah with Celine, but I can totally imagine Celine being on stage and not be able to hear anything, the music, the playback. And I don't know what Celine would do, because it looks like they couldn't stop everything either as they were close to the midnight countdown.

i was talking about Mariah's team not her, not being on time for a show because you forget to think of the time zone is a zero level of competence. I.m quite aware of what goes on with Celine and the lypsinc thing.

[TiagoFragoso05]

Lol poor her! But I must admit it's damn funny to watch these things.. with any artist

 

 

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[Tyler1991]

I think those who are at least somewhat fans of mariah like myself have an idea what happened.

 

Yes the ear monitors were not working. That's why the lipping in the first and third song were atrocious because she couldnt hear herself to follow along and lip. Emotions (besides the whistles) is always live, as evident by this performance. Ear monitors not working for the only song she was supposed to sing live so she didn't try to sing anymore here than she really did lipping in we belong together. The only thing that seemed different to me was that she intended to lip all of WBT which I think she normally only lips the last chorus.

 

Also as justin said, mariah tracks are a lot more elaborate. She has at least 20 tracks for we belong together. She is not always consistent. You know with celine, unless she is on a us tv show like good moring america, Oprah, or the tonight show her usual lipping rules exist....with mariah it's whatever she wants whenever and it's very inconsistent which I bet is why her team has at ridiculous amount of technical difficulties with sound and playback. She goes in and out from playback 10 times within a song sometimed, easily 10 times sometimes more I bet. I think I've only ever seen celine do live>lip>live in performances but never anothee transition...

[stevo]

She's arrogant, unprofessional, unrehearsed and probably drunk. So although technical difficulties can happen to any singer, saying the audience was too loud at a concert isn't really an excuse so she can lip properly. Shameful.

[ryba]

i was talking about Mariah's team not her, not being on time for a show because you forget to think of the time zone is a zero level of competence. I.m quite aware of what goes on with Celine and the lypsinc thing.

haha, they all seem to be very "forgetful" hahaha LOOL

[justinecoria]

i was talking about Mariah's team not her, not being on time for a show because you forget to think of the time zone is a zero level of competence. I.m quite aware of what goes on with Celine and the lypsinc thing.

Yeah and what I said is that her team forgetting time zones makes a funny story for a reality show. I wouldn't believe such things.

Her team is actually not doing bad. They got her doing the Christmas Carpool Karaoke, which was a big thing recently. Having her singing for NYE was a good thing too. The problem is Mariah right now, her voice, her attitude. I can totally imagine how hard it must be for them to handle her.

[nuts2you]

I also cant imagine what her shows at CP must be like as well, No wonder why they gave celine a few of her dates,

[stevo]

I can see Mariah's Caesar's show coming to an end

[Nmj]

I can see Mariah's Caesar's show coming to an end

 

Vegas shows are really demanding, people assume that they are easy because they aren't on tour but to give 100 percent of energy and voice is very demanding especially in a dry climate. It really shows how talented Celine is by being there almost 14 years and over 1000 shows, it really is mind blowing.

[CelineDionFreak]

I just rediscovered this song its hard to think about what she was going through at that time, you couldn't tell from her performances. But it's still sad! Anyways, this performance is magical!!

[jpatdeleon09]

I just rediscovered this song its hard to think about what she was going through at that time, you couldn't tell from her performances. But it's still sad! Anyways, this performance is magical!!

 

Most of celine's performance are so raw. I mean no reverb at all. It sounds dry

[Peppercorn1991]

I just rediscovered this song its hard to think about what she was going through at that time, you couldn't tell from her performances. But it's still sad! Anyways, this performance is magical!!

 

I wish Celine would have this hair style again! I loved it.... so fresh and young! Please....

 

Kev x

[chocolatechip15]

I just rediscovered this song its hard to think about what she was going through at that time, you couldn't tell from her performances. But it's still sad! Anyways, this performance is magical!!

https://youtu.be/f0mNYIOuIvo

 

I love this performance! I think she was actually in a relatively good place emotionally at that point -- that was summer 2014, and when she did this show, she also did a number of interviews saying that Rene's cancer was been treated successfully, and he was getting better ..Rene was with her backstage (there was a Julie Synder interview talking about how he loved Celine's mermaid outfit), they were planning her Asia tour, and she was talking about that. And then I think Rene's cancer came back a few weeks later . IIRC, this was in July 2014, and in August, she abruptly canceled everything for an entire year - the Vegas shows, the Asia tour, etc. That must have been when they got bad news about Rene's health. I remember it being so shocking, because she'd been so happy and upbeat during this taping and the interviews around it, and then all of a sudden everything was cancelled. I think the next interview we got was that super-sad GMA interview in March 2015 where she was crying and talking about feeding Rene through a feeding tube. So sad to rememeber.

[isabel leite]

 

I love this performance! I think she was actually in a relatively good place emotionally at that point -- that was summer 2014, and when she did this show, she also did a number of interviews saying that Rene's cancer was been treated successfully, and he was getting better ..Rene was with her backstage (there was a Julie Synder interview talking about how he loved Celine's mermaid outfit), they were planning her Asia tour, and she was talking about that. And then I think Rene's cancer came back a few weeks later . IIRC, this was in July 2014, and in August, she abruptly canceled everything for an entire year - the Vegas shows, the Asia tour, etc. That must have been when they got bad news about Rene's health. I remember it being so shocking, because she'd been so happy and upbeat during this taping and the interviews around it, and then all of a sudden everything was cancelled. I think the next interview we got was that super-sad GMA interview in March 2015 where she was crying and talking about feeding Rene through a feeding tube. So sad to rememeber.

Hi Do you by any chance know where I can see the Julie Synder interview? thanks

[CelineDionFreak]

 

 

I love this performance! I think she was actually in a relatively good place emotionally at that point -- that was summer 2014, and when she did this show, she also did a number of interviews saying that Rene's cancer was been treated successfully, and he was getting better ..Rene was with her backstage (there was a Julie Synder interview talking about how he loved Celine's mermaid outfit), they were planning her Asia tour, and she was talking about that. And then I think Rene's cancer came back a few weeks later . IIRC, this was in July 2014, and in August, she abruptly canceled everything for an entire year - the Vegas shows, the Asia tour, etc. That must have been when they got bad news about Rene's health. I remember it being so shocking, because she'd been so happy and upbeat during this taping and the interviews around it, and then all of a sudden everything was cancelled. I think the next interview we got was that super-sad GMA interview in March 2015 where she was crying and talking about feeding Rene through a feeding tube. So sad to rememeber.

That's true! I didn't think of that. I just remember being devastated that the Asia tour was cancelled, but then I realized Rene could very well be fighting for his life... and he was but Céline is doing so well now. Do you have the Julie Snyder interview by chance?

[chocolatechip15]

 

That's true! I didn't think of that. I just remember being devastated that the Asia tour was cancelled, but then I realized Rene could very well be fighting for his life... and he was but Céline is doing so well now. Do you have the Julie Snyder interview by chance?

 

I believe the Julie Snyder interview was in print, but I don't remember where. I'm not even sure if it was an interview *of* Julie, or Julie's interview of Celine (I think it was both). I just clearly remember a story about Celine wondering if Rene would be OK with her outfit (maybe the mermaid and/or waterski outfit together with heels) and he LOVED it and they were laughing and happy and it was a super sweet moment. (This may have been the Julie interview that later got an English translation in Hello Canada, but I'm not certain because there were a ton of interviews around that time).