Céline performs at Walmart 50th Anniversary Party

[sfbaysinger]

1 I always still wonder what amazing performance we're going to get from her. And there usually is one. That has not changed, Fer Me.

2 I don't think we can un-legetimize, (I know that's not a word) the vastness of WalMart. I'm not a fan either due to some of their policies, but it's not like we're celebrating, oh, I don't know, 76 gas station's 50th year. Walmart is a big deal. If we were all in a room together and I asked for a show of hands op how many of us or our immediate families have shopped or at least set foot in a WalMart once or twice, I bet, if we were being honest, I'd get most of us, including myself.

Anyway, I'm not going there with lipping or her high notes, which I always love. I did not know this was coming and so as has been said, am surprised a bit. But happy! So happy. Her voice is spectacular, LCMM is a crowd-pleaser and that's probably why she did it. WalMart is no little thing to sneeze at, and neither is she. They're both iconic empires weaved skillfully in to the fabric/tapestry of our world vocabulary/lingo now. I Love Her!!!!!

[puttybuddy]

I think Thomas said it best, that time is passing her by and she should use her talent and show the world what she really has before it's too late. Because I feel in the end we will remember the tons of performances she has repeated over and over rather they were live or not. I am not a child of the 90's or even the 80's so I remeber amazing performances from her early carreer when they were live and rather she can sing like that anymore remains a mystery because we keep getting the same songs over and over at her shows. I'm all for saving her voice for future recordings, but I'm still waiting for an origional new song (not a cover) that will knock me off my feet and I say OMG! there's the Celine I fell in love with. Either way, I will always be a fan because she is truely the greatest voice and human being to me.

[browseceline]

Okay can we just put the "she's singing live!" efforts to rest, please? Especially with such an accusatory tone? I skimmed through the thread yesterday but I'm pretty sure you're not the only one who has tried to convince everyone of this, so this is for all of you who still want to believe she's singing live here.

 

I downloaded a bootleg from Vegas (this one, if anyone's curious and feels the need to double check my work), recorded my own audio from this performance and synced them up and here is the result for you to listen for yourself.

 

If you still don't believe me that there's two audio tracks there, here is the one from the bootleg and here is the one from Walmart. They're cut right before Celine starts singing, so all you need to do is make sure you hit play at the exact same time. I'm not trying to bash Celine here so please let's not get into that, I'm just proving a point.

 

Bottom line: Celine lip syncs. Learn to accept it if you're going to still follow her. She's still f****** fabulous and I still love her anyway.

 

I have put them underneath each other in cool edit pro.. and indeed...no difference.. same tracks, no question about that..

What I don't understand though, and never did, what about her backgroundsingers ? :-S I have to say, I thought It's all coming back sounded

a bit different first, but now hearing the two tracks on top of each other, there is no difference at all..

Edited June 2, 2012 at 02:30 PM by browseceline

[celinefanonline]

oh well... what can i say.. nothing.............. i'm not really against liping but of course would love live!!!

maybe some fans could write to Rene about this!!!

and since Celine don't sing live much then what's the point going to her concert then...??? so maybe we shouldn't go to her concert / shows then...!!

 

and yes some of the comments r negative but not all r wrong! at the same time it's not good too lol

maybe TC world tour cd/dvd should have never release at all just release TTEOTW should be enough!

 

am pretty happy to see Celine back again!

[manu23]

The argument that everyone lip syncs is ridiculous! The great Barbra Streisand doesn't. Judy Garland didn't. Edith Piaf didn't. The greatest divas in the last 100 year have not lipped, Celine is the only one. (and by the way, Madonna hardly lips anymore and Britney Spears sang on most of her last tour to get rid of the scrutiny. But neither of them are divas. We're at their concerts for the music and dance. Celine's not a dancer. She's a vocalist.)

 

Everyone lip syncs on the super bowl.

 

How can people defend this? This isn't artistry. It's the long time fans here that are disappointed. And frankly, we're sick of kids born in the 1990's telling us to be happy about it. We will not. We were alive to see Celine's greatest LIVE performances. We're not going to settle for her lipping to a recording she's lipped to thousands of times.

 

I saw Britney last November and she didn't sing a single live note, and she didn't dance either, but I don't care, I just went there invited.

 

Celine sings live when she has too, she sang The Prayer live with Andrea and it was great (much better than Xtina in the Voice and she is almost 15 years younger). She can't not sing live every single time she is on the stage, that's impossible, she would ruin her voice. Of course, she could do like Barbra, do a tour every 5-10 years, in very selected cities and then been gone for another 5 year, I would demand Celine singing live then, but I am sure a lot of fans would complain then that they don't have the chance to see her or that they want her to visit their country...

 

I could complain about she singing always the same songs (I hope they don't do that during the albums promotion) but about a show being half lipsynced I understand, I don't defend it, just accept it.

 

And yes, everybody lipsync parts of their shows, at least in all the concerts I've been.

[luciusbright]

I'm glad she didn't perform My Heart will go on neither Because you loved me

me too, lol~~

so excited she is back and looks very good~~

and of course the voice, it is just amazing, I couldn't wait for the new album

[Timster]

I preferred watching the lipped IACBTMN/TPOL medley than the appalling LCMM. She really needs to listen to the original album version again and realise how it should be done. It's such an embarrassment. However, I was pleasantly surprised that she didn't perform BYLM!

 

I'm really shocked at how much her concert playbacks are being used at other events. This hardly ever used to happen, and after the whole TCWT DVD dubbing I thought they would be even more careful not to "leak" the playbacks that may compromise a future DVD, but now they seem worse than ever!!!

[Claudette]

I would have taken BYLM over LCMM exactly for that reason: it was just embarrassing. I did not even comment on that, but I totally agree with you, Timster. All I heard was Celine's shrieking over the choir. If she can't even bother to sing that song properly, she might as well just leave it. I just don't get her obsession with that song. She has soooooo many more upbeat fun songs she can sing.

[caitlynceline56]

I've been thinking about this ''negativity'' thing a lot lately, and I have come to the conclusion that Celine herself is the reason for it.

 

Okay, here's my two cents on this. First of all, I want you to know that it is not my intention to attack your post, Claudette, or anyone else's. You are absolutely entitled to your opinion. However, so am I, and here's mine.

 

My personal belief is that it is not Céline who makes us disappointed; we choose to be disappointed. I know some of you are going to laugh at me for saying this, but I don't care. My mother has told me since I was a little girl that nobody makes you do anything - you choose how to respond. I guess her philosophy has stuck with me. Think about it: if your disappointment really was all Céline's fault, wouldn't every single fan on this forum feel the exact same way? How come some people are happy about these performances and others aren't? How come some people despise lip-synching but some are neutral about it? From an even broader standpoint, why do some people love Céline while others hate her? Because it all depends on how WE see the world.

 

I have a different perspective because I have been a fan for less than a year. I am excited about every new performance, even if it's the same old songs, because they're NOT the same old songs for me. I had never listened to IACBTMN, TPOL, or even MHWGO until last summer, so the "newness" hasn't worn off yet for me. Do you remember the first few times you heard those songs in the '90s? That's what I am experiencing now.

 

I want to say again that I do not mean to discount anyone's opinion. I just wanted to put a different spin on things, since that's what forums are for: debating and sharing ideas.

[Timster]

I would have taken BYLM over LCMM exactly for that reason: it was just embarrassing. I did not even comment on that, but I totally agree with you, Timster. All I heard was Celine's shrieking over the choir. If she can't even bother to sing that song properly, she might as well just leave it. I just don't get her obsession with that song. She has soooooo many more upbeat fun songs she can sing.

 

I totally get that it's a tradition in her concerts, as it's been performed in every show since the Celine Dion Tour, but since she started A New Day it has never been performed properly. The promo performances from the early 90s were fantastic, almost identical to the album version. Her tour performances throughout the 90s were also very good, as although she changed a couple of things to make the song slightly easier for her, she still sang ALL of the words in the correct way. Nowadays it's a complete and utter mess! I just don't get how can sing BYLM perfectly every time just like her 90s performances, yet go completely of the rails when it comes to LCMM...

[Alex_Incognito]

I don't believe that we choose to be disappointed. Celine is an artist. She is supposed to be creating art. Instead of presenting us with a masterpiece, she's presenting us with reproductions.

 

Art is to be interpreted. Copies of the same thing lose their color and Celine seems to have lost a huge sense of her artistry.

[LittleLiv]

Okay, here's my two cents on this. First of all, I want you to know that it is not my intention to attack your post, Claudette, or anyone else's. You are absolutely entitled to your opinion. However, so am I, and here's mine.

 

My personal belief is that it is not Céline who makes us disappointed; we choose to be disappointed. I know some of you are going to laugh at me for saying this, but I don't care. My mother has told me since I was a little girl that nobody makes you do anything - you choose how to respond. I guess her philosophy has stuck with me. Think about it: if your disappointment really was all Céline's fault, wouldn't every single fan on this forum feel the exact same way? How come some people are happy about these performances and others aren't? How come some people despise lip-synching but some are neutral about it? From an even broader standpoint, why do some people love Céline while others hate her? Because it all depends on how WE see the world.

 

I have a different perspective because I have been a fan for less than a year. I am excited about every new performance, even if it's the same old songs, because they're NOT the same old songs for me. I had never listened to IACBTMN, TPOL, or even MHWGO until last summer, so the "newness" hasn't worn off yet for me. Do you remember the first few times you heard those songs in the '90s? That's what I am experiencing now.

 

I want to say again that I do not mean to discount anyone's opinion. I just wanted to put a different spin on things, since that's what forums are for: debating and sharing ideas.

 

I have to say that I totally agree with that and that it's also my point of view.

 

It doesn't matter what Céline is going to do, if she sings live or not, if she sings old or new songs, if she wears this or that, there will always be people complaining about it.

 

Personally I enjoyed seeing her yesterday and I love her new look.

 

Actually I don't really want to say something to that whole lipping thing cause I'm so tired of reading about that discussion, fact is that I belong to the few people that don't really think about it... that's just me and if I'd start looking at every single performance wondering if it's live or not, I'd stop enjoying her music cause it just kind of ruins everything and that's why I also hate to read every single time which song she seems to have lipped or not.

 

I love Céline and I'm not blinded by my obsession or something..

[Kyle_Jared]

I just want to know what's going to happen if the damn thing ever skipps a la milli vanilli. She's done.

[Javito]

I totally get that it's a tradition in her concerts, as it's been performed in every show since the Celine Dion Tour, but since she started A New Day it has never been performed properly. The promo performances from the early 90s were fantastic, almost identical to the album version. Her tour performances throughout the 90s were also very good, as although she changed a couple of things to make the song slightly easier for her, she still sang ALL of the words in the correct way. Nowadays it's a complete and utter mess! I just don't get how can sing BYLM perfectly every time just like her 90s performances, yet go completely of the rails when it comes to LCMM...

 

Because the song its totally worn out for her and has arrived to the point of boredom singing it live. That's why I think she uses playback to sing other songs like TPOL or BYLM, we should have to see yet how she would sing these if she sang them really live all the time, they would go of the rails too surely!.

 

LCMM has worn out her. TPOL has worn out her since the early 90's because of the many times she had to sing this song, and she continues to do so in 2012... in playback because if she had to do it live every time, I don't want to know how/what she would do with it

 

She's wearing herself out and she's killing the magic of these songs. Something that would NOT have happened if she had balanced her repertoire singing different songs from her albums and not ALWAYS the same setlist everywhere and in every event

[GoldenLeaf]

oh well... what can i say.. nothing.............. i'm not really against liping but of course would love live!!!

maybe some fans could write to Rene about this!!!

and since Celine don't sing live much then what's the point going to her concert then...??? so maybe we shouldn't go to her concert / shows then...!!

 

and yes some of the comments r negative but not all r wrong! at the same time it's not good too lol

maybe TC world tour cd/dvd should have never release at all just release TTEOTW should be enough!

 

am pretty happy to see Celine back again!

If you think that Celine doesn't live much in her concerts then you are either misinformed or just deaf.

 

In case you're wondering, her ''English'' concerts during the TC Tour were 75% LIVE whereas her ''French'' concerts were 85% LIVE.

 

Some of you guys need to get your facts straight before saying such crap.

 

I just want to know what's going to happen if the damn thing ever skipps a la milli vanilli. She's done.

A digital track can't skip like a track from a cassette tape

Edited June 2, 2012 at 05:14 PM by Calypso

[GoldenLeaf]

I saw Britney last November and she didn't sing a single live note, and she didn't dance either, but I don't care, I just went there invited.

 

Celine sings live when she has too, she sang The Prayer live with Andrea and it was great (much better than Xtina in the Voice and she is almost 15 years younger). She can't not sing live every single time she is on the stage, that's impossible, she would ruin her voice. Of course, she could do like Barbra, do a tour every 5-10 years, in very selected cities and then been gone for another 5 year, I would demand Celine singing live then, but I am sure a lot of fans would complain then that they don't have the chance to see her or that they want her to visit their country...

 

I could complain about she singing always the same songs (I hope they don't do that during the albums promotion) but about a show being half lipsynced I understand, I don't defend it, just accept it.

 

And yes, everybody lipsync parts of their shows, at least in all the concerts I've been.

I've accompanied a friend to a Britney concert and that's true, she lip-synced the whole show and didn't even dance.

 

Even Andrea Bocelli, Sarah Brightman, Christina Aguilera, Mariah Carey and Shania Twain lip-sync in their concerts and I do know what I'm talking about.

Edited June 2, 2012 at 05:28 PM by Calypso

[Thomas]

TPOL has worn out her since the early 90's because of the many times she had to sing this song, and she continues to do so in 2012... in playback because if she had to do it live every time, I don't want to know how/what she would do with it

When Mego was in Paris during the TC tour, he told Musimax that if Celine and himself had their way, they would have dropped TPOL. Though as we know they didn't get their wish. And during the press conference for the Vegas show, Celine said she wanted to sing MHWGO first and get it out of the way, or change the arrangement to make it more interesting. Rene said no to this too. Now this to me is a problem, because both of her ideas I agree with strongly. I think TPOL should definitely take a break from her shows and I think MHWGO should get a new arragment or be removed from the finale like Celine wanted. It makes me wonder....what other ideas has she had that were ignored?

 

I think what we saw in the 3 Boys and a New Show special was pretty interesting, because she was adamant that she would sing The Reason in Vegas and nobody else was going to tell her otherwise. And even though Rene said it wouldn't work she kept pushing and eventually she was allowed. Why wasn't she allowed from the start? It's her show, they're her songs, if anyones input should count for the most it should be Celine's! I know she's a grown woman and if she REALLY wanted to do something different then she would, but I do think the trust she places in the people around her means the shows she does aren't necessarily the way she would have liked them to be.

Edited June 2, 2012 at 05:45 PM by Thomas

[Timster]

When Mego was in Paris during the TC tour, he told Musimax that if Celine and himself had their way, they would have dropped TPOL. Though as we know they didn't get their wish. And during the press conference for the Vegas show, Celine said she wanted to sing MHWGO first and get it out of the way, or change the arrangement to make it more interesting. Rene said no to this too. Now this to me is a problem, because both of her ideas I agree with strongly. I think TPOL should definitely take a break from her shows and I think MHWGO should get a new arragment or be removed from the finale like Celine wanted. It makes me wonder....what other ideas has she had that were ignored?

 

I think what we saw in the 3 Boys and a New Show special was pretty interesting, because she was adamant that she would sing The Reason in Vegas and nobody else was going to tell her otherwise. And even though Rene said it wouldn't work she kept pushing and eventually she was allowed. Why wasn't she allowed from the start? It's her show, they're her songs, if anyones input should count for the most it should be Celine's! I know she's a grown woman and if she REALLY wanted to do something different then she would, but I do think the trust she places in the people around her means the shows she does aren't necessarily the way she would have liked them to be.

 

That TPOL story is very interesting, as they did actually drop TPOL in the first 1998 shows of the LTAL tour, but then it got added back again for the 1999 shows. I wonder if that was because of René too, or whether they just couldn't think of anything else to replace ABM with?

 

As for The Reason in the new show, I am glad that they listened to Celine, but I am really disappointed that the song is playback. If she was really that passionate about performing the song in her new show, she would be doing it completely live - just like in the LTAL tour.

Edited June 2, 2012 at 05:54 PM by Timster

[browseceline]

and I agree about My heart will go on - I mean she has a 31 piece orchestra - then do something with it! To me the Vegas version sounds like the old A new Day version and the Taking Chances Tour version. Why not use the arrangement of the Grammy's in 1998 or the Oscar's version! That is what I call using the orchestra! Right now Celine's band overpowers the orchestra in the my heart will go on arrangement, making it sounds like the version we have known for years.

When I heard this new show would have a big orchestra I was expecting better use of the Orchestra, esspecially in that song.

[Timster]

and I agree about My heart will go on - I mean she has a 31 piece orchestra - then do something with it! To me the Vegas version sounds like the old A new Day version and the Taking Chances Tour version. Why not use the arrangement of the Grammy's in 1998 or the Oscar's version! That is what I call using the orchestra! Right now Celine's band overpowers the orchestra in the my heart will go on arrangement, making it sounds like the version we have known for years.

When I heard this new show would have a big orchestra I was expecting better use of the Orchestra, esspecially in that song.

 

I think they could have done far more with the orchestra for most of the songs in the show! Although you can definitely hear some new instruments in the arrangements, I also feel that the old band overpowers them.

[Javito]

When Mego was in Paris during the TC tour, he told Musimax that if Celine and himself had their way, they would have dropped TPOL. Though as we know they didn't get their wish. And during the press conference for the Vegas show, Celine said she wanted to sing MHWGO first and get it out of the way, or change the arrangement to make it more interesting. Rene said no to this too. Now this to me is a problem, because both of her ideas I agree with strongly. I think TPOL should definitely take a break from her shows and I think MHWGO should get a new arragment or be removed from the finale like Celine wanted. It makes me wonder....what other ideas has she had that were ignored?

 

I think what we saw in the 3 Boys and a New Show special was pretty interesting, because she was adamant that she would sing The Reason in Vegas and nobody else was going to tell her otherwise. And even though Rene said it wouldn't work she kept pushing and eventually she was allowed. Why wasn't she allowed from the start? It's her show, they're her songs, if anyones input should count for the most it should be Celine's! I know she's a grown woman and if she REALLY wanted to do something different then she would, but I do think the trust she places in the people around her means the shows she does aren't necessarily the way she would have liked them to be.

 

Because we have that her manager is her husband too, that's the main problem here She blindly trusts him as her manager and I think that since he's her husband too, she ends giving up

Edited June 2, 2012 at 06:55 PM by Javito

[Peppercorn1991]

My personal belief is that it is not Céline who makes us disappointed; we choose to be disappointed. I know some of you are going to laugh at me for saying this, but I don't care. My mother has told me since I was a little girl that nobody makes you do anything - you choose how to respond. I guess her philosophy has stuck with me. Think about it: if your disappointment really was all Céline's fault, wouldn't every single fan on this forum feel the exact same way? How come some people are happy about these performances and others aren't? How come some people despise lip-synching but some are neutral about it? From an even broader standpoint, why do some people love Céline while others hate her?

 

 

Because some fans know Celine is only human. I think ur right

 

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Id just like to say, i was very happy to watch this performance

 

At the end of the day Celine has new albums out this year, and there will be plenty of performances. I dont understand the BIG DEAL here.

 

-This was mini concert for business people

-This concert had nothing to do with the fans

-Celine has new albums out this year for her fans

-the lipping happens, get over it like some fans have had to like myself. If you cannot do that then i cant see how you can keep being a fan of hers, i dont see this changing anytime soon. Its not that we all like the fact she lips, but what can we do?

 

-Id just like to point out that we are now in the modern world! Nothing is like it used to be, everything is about money in every part of the western world. Its about things being pefect (lipping), looking perfect (photo shop), its now our way of life, weather we like it or not. Say thank you to the media for this

 

Celine looked gorgeous although i thought her gold top should have come down more. I love her hair!

 

Can i just stress, this performance is NO BIG DEAL and that is was never for us in the first place!

 

Also, i agree with pretty much everything all of you have said about this on both sides, but i don't see how we can do anything, its the way the world now is not just with Celine but with everything! Someone said that old singers didnt lip - correct! But they did not live in this fast, money making, careless, fake, photo-shopped world that we are now in, thanks to government, the media especially, bankers and other people pulling the strings of the western world. We all need to learn that MONEY is the answer to EVERYTHING!

 

Celine has new albums out this year! A big year for the fans! Why are we arguing over a performance that wasn't intended for us and why are we not happy and excited? We all hate the lipping, but whats the point in all of this - it doesn't achieve anything and it changes nothing :/

 

Can i just say about comments about Celines enthusiasm? Did u even see the crowd? LAME! How was she supposed to be happy and full of excitement when singing in front of businessmen in suits, where there probably wasn't one die hard fan there? There was nothing coming from the crowd! This was not an occasion about music it was about business, Celine was only there to say thank you - probably to help get Walmart on her side in selling her new albums this year! Like i said this mini concert means nothing!

 

To be honest, i was very grateful and happy to have even had the chance to watch this, see celine again, she how great see looks and see her perform again!

 

 

kev x

Edited June 2, 2012 at 07:39 PM by Peppercorn1991

[celinesounds]

I don't care if she doesn't sing LCMM the same way of the original recording, she should do the same with other old songs and bring new abilities, she is not a machine

[Javito]

Javito i dont want an argument at all here but come on....

 

We are getting NEW songs, albums this year and a new single in a month, we are gitting new stuff, we just need to wait

 

Personally like most other members on here, i want to look forward to them along with you guys, get excited, count down the day, but instead this?

 

I understand everything you say, but saying it over and over changes nothing and just depresses us all.

 

Lets see what happens with these albums, yeah?

 

kev x

 

Yes Kev, you're right and that's what I tried to say in a previous post: if we want to be surprised and expect something NEW of Céline today, all we have is to wait for the new albums and the original new songs they may include, because what concerns her performing career and her concerts, its useless (I mean songs from past albums, I still have hope that she performs on a stage the usual 2-3 singles from the upcoming new albums!)

 

But I give up the idea of seeing Céline performing someday If Walls Could Talk, Just Walk Away or Right In Front Of You

 

Javier,we need to celebrate the mediocrity! Wooooooo! Celine is the best lip syncer ever! yaaaay! Celine doesn't need to prove she has a voice! She already sang it once really well! Why not enjoy what was done a few years ago TODAY !?

 

LOL Alex But its true, today, if I want to enjoy her voice singing in a real concert songs that has not taken me to the point of boredom, I pick the Olympia or Live À Paris CD's.

 

If you ask me about the TCWT concert, apart from a few good covers and new songs she did there, the concert lacks all the originality and freshness of the old days. Same as the Vegas 2007 DVD

Edited June 2, 2012 at 09:11 PM by Javito

[dmeredith]

Okay, here's my two cents on this. First of all, I want you to know that it is not my intention to attack your post, Claudette, or anyone else's. You are absolutely entitled to your opinion. However, so am I, and here's mine.

 

My personal belief is that it is not Céline who makes us disappointed; we choose to be disappointed. I know some of you are going to laugh at me for saying this, but I don't care. My mother has told me since I was a little girl that nobody makes you do anything - you choose how to respond. I guess her philosophy has stuck with me. Think about it: if your disappointment really was all Céline's fault, wouldn't every single fan on this forum feel the exact same way? How come some people are happy about these performances and others aren't? How come some people despise lip-synching but some are neutral about it? From an even broader standpoint, why do some people love Céline while others hate her? Because it all depends on how WE see the world.

 

I have a different perspective because I have been a fan for less than a year. I am excited about every new performance, even if it's the same old songs, because they're NOT the same old songs for me. I had never listened to IACBTMN, TPOL, or even MHWGO until last summer, so the "newness" hasn't worn off yet for me. Do you remember the first few times you heard those songs in the '90s? That's what I am experiencing now.

 

I want to say again that I do not mean to discount anyone's opinion. I just wanted to put a different spin on things, since that's what forums are for: debating and sharing ideas.

 

 

I agree with what you've said "Caitlynceline56"!!!!

 

 

As for other posts:

Celine's fan base is a lot older than a lot of those who regularly post here on this forum. There are also a lot of fans that love Celine, but they don't buy all of her CD's nor do they know all of the wonderful songs that she sings like those of us who are on this forum. Therefore, "they" like to hear the standard "favorites". It's a shame too, 'cause they're missing out on some wonderful songs, but ......that's the way it is.

 

This particular event was for Wal-mart. Maybe, just maybe, they are the ones who chose the songs that Celine sang. So, we wish that she had sung something else and maybe she did too. She chose to go with what they wanted, 'cause she accepted the invitation to sing at their celebration.

 

Some, here on the forum, seem to find fault with everything. Whatever Celine does, they criticize something about it. I do believe that some like to be negative just for the mere purpose of being negative. They don't know how to live without creating drama. Yes, everyone has a right to state what they want, but I for one truly get depressed by so much negativity. Someone stated that they are tired of defending Celine. Well, I don't think that I have ever read anything postivie about Celine from this particular person. There are too many that are always complaining.

 

Celine hasn't lost her sense of artistry. She has just changed it, and she has a right to do that. Like someone said, "Art is meant to be interpreted differently by others". Well, I truly enjoyed Celine out and doing something. It lifted my spirits!!!! So, I'll continue to go to her "art museum"!!!

 

Someone stated that Celine was shrieking above the choir. Well, that's not what I heard at all. There are those who say that she's just singing like a machine, etc. etc. Well, in my opinion she was trying to "possibly" change the song up a bit by adding a little bit of flavor to an old recipe. You know, you can prepare the same dish many years, but start changing it up a bit by adding a few new ingredients into it and it can still taste good.

 

Celine has sung these songs (the ones that she sang for Walmart) many times. So, if you put tracks on top of one another and they sound alike without any differences, that doesn't mean that she's lipping them. Maybe she's become such an expert at singing them that she can pretty much sing them in her sleep. Therefore, they'll sound alike each time she sings them.

 

Someone stated that Celine hasn't given us many reasons to comment positively. My goodness, she's done plenty that can cause us to state something positive about!!! That comment just completely blew me away!!! Excuse me????!!!! There are definitely plenty on this forum that need to work on positive comments and a positive attitude!!!!!

 

If anyone is ashamed to call themselves a Celine fan...........then quit stating it and become a fan of the past. I for one, and I'm sure there are many others, would prefer to post with fans that aren't relunctant about being a fan. If your "Celine flame" has fizzled, then put the flame out somewhere else and not drag some of us into the dark with you.

 

If some say that they skip certain songs on albums, 'cause they find them boring. Well, I suppose that everyone will find themselves doing that with any CD from a multitude of singers. That doesn't mean that the CD isn't good. Sometimes we're just not in the mood for a certain song, and then another day you can listen to it over and over.

 

Barbra Streisand was an awesome singer, but she never sang the amount of concerts that Celine has. Celine has kept her career alive a lot longer than Barbra has. Back in the day when Barbra was truly visible in the public eye, nobody knew anything about lipping. The technology didn't exist, like it does today, for anyone to know. So, who knows what Barbra did? I was a huge fan of hers, and I still like her very much. She's one of the greats in my opinion.

 

I think that Celine looked healthy and relaxed at the Walmart event. She looked lovely. I liked her hair, but I don't think that it would work at the Vegas shows, 'cause it wouldn't compliment her beautiful gowns.

 

About Celine lipping.......................I'm sooooooooooo tired of this conversation!!! The woman has kept her career going for 30 years, and I'm so grateful that she's around. She can lip whenever she wants if it helps to keep her vocal chords in the best shape possible for her well-being. Let her do what she wants to do. I bet that if we were to hear her talk about it, we'd understand. Of course, there would still be those who would be critical, 'cause there are peole who would argue that it isn't raining while standing in a hurricane!! I truly can't find where Celine is lipping and not. To me it looked like she was really singing live, and I'm tired of people trying to prove otherwise!! Find something better to do than constantly talking about this!!! If some are tired of the same old stuff (as they say), well.......Celine can't put on a "dog and pony show" for everyone all the time. We're fortunate that she's still putting on concerts after so many years. Let's be grateful for the blessings that we do get and see the glass half full insteaf of half empty (as so many do here on the forum). With age comes wisdom.

 

I am a HUGE Celine fan!!!!! She is awesome, and she has an awesome voice and stage presence!!!!!

 

I am thoroughly looking forward to the new albums this year and my trip to Vegas in a few weeks!!!!

[Javito]

Céline's fanbase aged till the retirment years and the elderly since she started Las Vegas residency in 2003. Look what majority of public attends her shows in Las Vegas and during the TCWT. There were young people yes, but the least. Middle aged people was and it is the big proportion of her audience in Las Vegas.

 

But before that, TWO great young, fresh and uptempo albums came with HUGE success worldwide (ANDHC). Céline was played in all the radios addressed to young people with ANDHC and I'm Alive, and young fans knew who was her. But since 2003, she decided to address her music and dedicate her career to that kind of public in Las Vegas, and exclude the young fanbase with the kind of songs she performs and the singles they have picked for radios. People who discovered her with TPOL or LCMM is 20 years older now guys. She hasn't evolved in her performing career a bit since mid 90's, and that's discouraging and sad for a singer who could have achieved much, much more with the voice she has, and especially, without pretending it! Just picking the right songs for each moment. But she has always picked the same bunch, year after year, and ignoring every album she has released since 2002 except for the singles the company decided to release.

 

Yes, young fans seem to be a minority, diminishing more and more with time, but that's only because Céline and her team have decided to exclude us

 

Apart from that, all I can say is that I'm not excited at all about seeing Céline in Las Vegas with THIS concert she's doing now. But I can't wait to have in my hands the 2 new albums that are coming, because hopefully, that will include the original, fresh and new Céline I'm waiting for since ages. The Celine I cannot see in concert, it will be given in the form of a CD. That's my hope!

Edited June 2, 2012 at 11:09 PM by Javito

[Shaun]

HA HA HA!!!!!!!

 

We are ALL here because we love Celine! Doesn't the "please stop complaining brigade" get that?!?!

 

We LOVE hearing Celine perform her songs live as it's THAT voice we fell in love with back in the day.

We LOVE hearing Celine perform new and original material.

We LOVE hearing Celine talk about her music and her influences.

We LOVE hearing the old classics performed LIVE. What is the POINT of listening to a 15 year old pre-recorded track? Seriously what is the point?

 

Now I totally understand there are some people here who LOVE to talk about her clothing choices or who LOVE to talk about motherhood or how to raise children. Those things don't interest me however I have enough respect to not get involved in those discussions but understand that others do.I get that and I don't complain about it!

 

Which is why I find it totally disrespectful when the OBVIOUS lipsynching and same old song choices discussion gets complained about by the "please stop complaining brigade." The reason these things annoy us are because we LOVE Celine. I personally hate talking about these issues but they need to be discussed! These are the facts of being a Celine Dion fan these days. Get used to it!

 

Now hopefully very soon we will have new songs to talk about and new live performances however until we do there are other discussions to be had.

[Alex_Incognito]

Barbra Streisand was an awesome singer, but she never sang the amount of concerts that Celine has. Celine has kept her career alive a lot longer than Barbra has. Back in the day when Barbra was truly visible in the public eye, nobody knew anything about lipping. The technology didn't exist, like it does today, for anyone to know. So, who knows what Barbra did? I was a huge fan of hers, and I still like her very much. She's one of the greats in my opinion.

 

She is sill alive. Celine has NOT kept her career alive longer than Barbra. Barbra is still recording and performing. Her first album was released in 1963. Her last one was 2011.

Lip syncing has been around since the invention of the cinema and musicals. It is not a "new" technology.

 

We know what Barbra did.

 

Let's look at Judy Garland. She performed HUNDREDS of concerts. All live. The original diva. All live. Piaf: Live. All live.

 

Your "excuses" for her are unfounded. As you say later on in your post, what you "choose" to believe. You're choosing to believe what's not true. I can't stand the excuses. Why do so many people think it's their job to excuse her?

 

 

Shaun, NICE POST!

Edited June 2, 2012 at 11:12 PM by Alex_Incognito

[dmeredith]

Céline's fanbase aged till the retirment years and the elderly since she started Las Vegas residency in 2003. Look what majority of public attends her shows in Las Vegas and during the TCWT. There were young people yes, but the least. Middle aged people was and it is the big proportion of her audience in Las Vegas.

 

But before that, TWO great young, fresh and uptempo albums came with HUGE success worldwide (ANDHC). Céline was played in all the radios addressed to young people with ANDHC and I'm Alive, and young fans knew who was her. But since 2003, she decided to address her music and dedicate her career to that kind of public in Las Vegas, and exclude the young fanbase with the kind of songs she performs and the singles they have picked for radios. People who discovered her with TPOL or LCMM is 20 years older now guys. She hasn't evolved in her performing career a bit since mid 90's, and that's discouraging and sad for a singer who could have achieved much, much more with the voice she has, and especially, without pretending it! Just picking the right songs for each moment. But she has always picked the same bunch, year after year, and ignoring every album she has released since 2002 except for the singles the company decided to release.

 

Yes, young fans seem to be a minority, diminishing more and more with time, but that's only because Céline and her team have decided to exclude us

 

 

Aww Javito!!!! I'm sorry if you feel that Celine's younger fan base is diminishing. I was, of course, a lot younger when Celine first started her English singing career, but I had children and the demands that come with them. So, it might be true that the majority of her Vegas audience is middle aged. I don't really know the real facts, but I for one didn't have the money (nor did I want to go in debt) back in those earlier years. I now have the time, the ability and the money (but I'm not rich by any means) to go to Vegas now. So, maybe that's how it is for a lot of the audience members in Vegas these days.

 

Plus, maybe Celine prefers to sing for those near her own age. Who knows.............? I know that I enjoy the company of those who are close to my age. Sometimes it's nice 'cause you can relate to one another since you've been down the same path and you've experienced the same things. You can relate to one another. Of course, I still enjoy spending time with all age groups. There's something to be said for all ages.

 

I don't think that Celine is excluding you. She certainly can decide which songs she wants to perform, and if that drives some people away then that's their decision, right? Have some faith tho'. Let's wait and see what the new albums bring us before we decide that the younger fan base has "written her off of their Christmas list". Okay?

[idroveallnight]

I don't see her doing this for the money either...she's probably in it for the exposure she'll get later on for the new album. I bet after this appearance, her next album will be exclusively available at Walmart or they'll release a special version that is only available at Walmart like they did in the past with the TC recordings dvd. Plus, there will be commercials on tv giving the new album promo (which will all be paid for by Walmart) and you might see her album advertised in their circulars (past the first week of release) and special displays of the new album at their stores as well. You see this stuff happen all the time with Beyonce and Target and it definitely makes everyone richer and happier at the end of the day (and the fans more broke lol).

 

Glad to see they are branching out and brainstorming better ideas to get her next album on top again. I know that record sales are generally at an all-time low for all artists, but considering that Celine has sold more albums than any other woman out there, I'm sure they set the bar for her quite high...plus after lackluster sales for Taking Chances, I'm sure Sony wants to get their money's worth out of her this time around. Sad to say, and I know we all say she has nothing to prove, but at the end of the day, that's her record label and I'm sure they rely on her heavily to keep them from going bankrupt.