What if we presented an album concept to Celine?

[fyoung98]

Obviously, there is a lot of talent to be found amongst us forum members. There has been a lot of discussion about song choices for Celine and what the vast majority would like to hear from her. It is understood that with Celine being in Vegas right now, the babies/family obligations, and other projects she has going on, the time she has to do any outside projects are kind of limited, but what if fans actually did get together to create an album representative of what Celine's further evolution in music could sound like. This album would represent her maturity as a singer but show that she can still "compete" (for lack of a better word) amongst the newbies entering the scene. WOuld this even be a possibility? Could this be something we could accomplish and have presented to a member of Celine's team? What do you think? I think it's always good to at least try something rather than not do anything at all.

[shir92]

hii

i think your idea is wonderful and it may actually work!

good luck XD

[CelineDork14]

I’m kinda confused. Are you saying we write the songs for her, or pick songs for her to cover? If so, I think it’s an awesome idea! But is it possible?

[smw]

I think it is a great idea to give some sort of formal suggestion as to what direction we, as Celine's biggest fans, would like her direction to be for the upcoming projects.

 

However, there is a lot of diversity among the fans. So I feel as though we should separate what we'd like into categories. And then vote. And, from there, make a formal presentation to her team.

[C_Airin_D]

Hey, that's a wonderful idea! And i think that rather we all sing, write, compose or suggest covers for her upcoming project it will be interesting for her and her team. They will certainly pay attention of what the fans think, and also will be a good chance to surprise the media with a project like that! We lose nothing if we try, anyway Just the opposite. Edited August 8, 2011 at 10:09 PM by C_Airin_D

[fyoung98]

I’m kinda confused. Are you saying we write the songs for her, or pick songs for her to cover? If so, I think it’s an awesome idea! But is it possible?

 

 

That's exactly what I'm saying. And yes, there is much diversity amongst fans so perhaps those who have talent working with a particular genre of music could work together. Several album concepts could be presented to her team.

[RomualdlovesCeline]

That's exactly what I'm saying. And yes, there is much diversity amongst fans so perhaps those who have talent working with a particular genre of music could work together. Several album concepts could be presented to her team.

 

I think it's kind of rude to tell her what to sing or to do her work at her place. People should have faith in Celine's work and expect the best. I know that nowadays everything is being kinda "coolish" attitude with people; but to do the work at somebody else's place is quite an insult to the singer herself because you are basically saying that she isn't capable to deliver what fans want so we fans tell her what to do; you should have faith in her instead of telling what to do; she's not a disabled woman/singer she can still deliver. Have in faith in her that's all

 

Edit: Add the fact that you don't live in her shoes and you barely know her even if she is an open book, you cannot feel her emotion, live for her. An album is a reflection of Celine's state right now, you cannot take decisions on her behalf because you aren't living her life and have no clue what she's enduring right now

Edited August 9, 2011 at 04:58 AM by RomualdlovesCeline

[fyoung98]

I think it's kind of rude to tell her what to sing or to do her work at her place. People should have faith in Celine's work and expect the best. I know that nowadays everything is being kinda "coolish" attitude with people; but to do the work at somebody else's place is quite an insult to the singer herself because you are basically saying that she isn't capable to deliver what fans want so we fans tell her what to do; you should have faith in her instead of telling what to do; she's not a disabled woman/singer she can still deliver. Have in faith in her that's all

 

Edit: Add the fact that you don't live in her shoes and you barely know her even if she is an open book, you cannot feel her emotion, live for her. An album is a reflection of Celine's state right now, you cannot take decisions on her behalf because you aren't living her life and have no clue what she's enduring right now

 

 

I disagree. I don't think we are trying to tell her what to sing or how to do her work. We are providing other options, things her team and Celine possibly have not considered. It's not even about being "coolish". Celine is quite comfortable in who she is and she is more than capable, but her mind is occupied which is why she leaves certain things up to her team. It's about providing something fresh. Like anything else, some will like it, some won't. I think it does show our faith in her as an artist because if we didn't think she could do it, why would we even bother. People who are used to working with Celine are just that, used to her, and therefore might not have the kind of fresh ideas that fans like us would have.

 

As far as her emotions are right now, those writers are taking guesses as much as we are right now when it comes to her emotional state. They do have an advantage in some sense, like Linda Perry, in some cases sitting down with her and talking to her, but I've never heard her speak about a song like she spoke about "My Love". I've only heard that writers submit songs to her. Celine is like any other woman, SHe has ups and downs. She has man problems. SHe has family problems. SHe also experiences the joys that women experience. Any one who is in tune with what women go through or potentially go through, their thought processes, etc could write a song. All of them may not be good ones, but they could still write it.

 

In that Today show interview she did right before the Taking Chances album came out, she did say she is looking forward to those songs that have yet to be written. Perhaps this our chance to be a part of that.

[Bell]

I disagree. I don't think we are trying to tell her what to sing or how to do her work. We are providing other options, things her team and Celine possibly have not considered. It's not even about being "coolish". Celine is quite comfortable in who she is and she is more than capable, but her mind is occupied which is why she leaves certain things up to her team. It's about providing something fresh. Like anything else, some will like it, some won't. I think it does show our faith in her as an artist because if we didn't think she could do it, why would we even bother. People who are used to working with Celine are just that, used to her, and therefore might not have the kind of fresh ideas that fans like us would have.

 

As far as her emotions are right now, those writers are taking guesses as much as we are right now when it comes to her emotional state. They do have an advantage in some sense, like Linda Perry, in some cases sitting down with her and talking to her, but I've never heard her speak about a song like she spoke about "My Love". I've only heard that writers submit songs to her. Celine is like any other woman, SHe has ups and downs. She has man problems. SHe has family problems. SHe also experiences the joys that women experience. Any one who is in tune with what women go through or potentially go through, their thought processes, etc could write a song. All of them may not be good ones, but they could still write it.

 

In that Today show interview she did right before the Taking Chances album came out, she did say she is looking forward to those songs that have yet to be written. Perhaps this our chance to be a part of that.

I got your point and I totally agree. Your idea is just fantastic! I really love it! I understand that it's not about telling Celine what to do, it's only an idea, a suggestion, we won't force anybody to do anything. Unfortunatelly, I have no gift for making music (although music is one of my greatest passions) so I can't help with any material but I'm with you, I support the idea. I can only tell you what I'd like to hear from Celine - some non-love songs. Don't get me wrong, I like all of her love ballads but I think we've had enough of them so maybe she could do something different this time. And typing 'this time' actually reminds me of her song 'This Time'. Maybe she should do a few more like this.

[volleyceline]

Someone always has to disagree grr! lol..

 

well i doubt your suggestions would reach her or someone close with Celine, but might be worth it.

[Bell]

I also doubt a little but we lose nothing if we try.

[C_Airin_D]

I don't think we are telling her what to do. It's just a suggestion and not an insult to CELINE DION, singer with 30-year-long-career.. She just takes what the writers give to her and approve or disapprove it. It's our chance to make some difference for her. She would not offend, for sure. If someway our ideas get to her whe'll probably pay attention and see what the fans have for her. WE LOSE NOTHING IF WE TRY - it's simple. Edited August 10, 2011 at 12:48 PM by C_Airin_D

[Claudette]

I don't want to burst anybody's bubble here, but like Thomas said in another topic a couple of days ago. Ideas have been passed on to Celine and her team through musicians/band members, hairdressers, stylists, etc. on numerous occasions. Celine and Rene seem to have a mind of their own and just continue to live in the past. They don't even take any of the ideas and suggestions into consideration. The relationship that Celine and her team have with the fans is based on ''I love you Celine'' and ''I love you too''. That is as far as it goes. They have absolutely no idea what her fans want. Sad, but true...

 

Your idea is great though and I wish just as much as everybody here that we can get a great fresh album with NEW music, but I don't think it will work.

Edited August 10, 2011 at 01:10 PM by Claudette

[fyoung98]

Someone always has to disagree grr! lol..

 

well i doubt your suggestions would reach her or someone close with Celine, but might be worth it.

 

 

You never know if you don't try. It was an idea.

[Javito]

I don't want to burst anybody's bubble here, but like Thomas said in another topic a couple of days ago. Ideas have been passed on to Celine and her team through musicians/band members, hairdressers, stylists, etc. on numerous occasions. Celine and Rene seem to have a mind of their own and just continue to live in the past. They don't even take any of the ideas and suggestions into consideration. The relationship that Celine and her team have with the fans is based on ''I love you Celine'' and ''I love you too''. That is as far as it goes. They have absolutely no idea what her fans want. Sad, but true...

 

It's hard to say it but I also agree. It's been like that since ever. They don't know what we want, and they don't want to know, which is worse.

But I shelter some hope that this changes for the future, at least for the next english album

[C_Airin_D]

We can try to forget those "particulars" and look forward for something new, something that maybe we take part in. Not always look to the ugly side, even it's the truth, we can just try - expect the unexpected. Edited August 10, 2011 at 01:59 PM by C_Airin_D

[fyoung98]

I've been thinking about writing an article about how Celine fans are misunderstood and perhaps enlighten the public and industry of why we love Celine but also why we are sometimes frustrated. I thought of doing this bc of comments like the one mentioned above but also because of some other things I've read. perhaps something of this nature could open the door for the project I've mentioned. When I decide to do it, I'll submit it here first to make sure that there is a general consensus amongst fans.

 

Another thought is that we could still do the project and make it a dedication to Celine.

[Javito]

Just to share my thoughts about this... I think the idea is great, and it shows -once again- that fans are "wanting" and are demanding a change in her career and in her music, its a genuine, selfless interest, and I think this is great from our part.

 

However, would they listen us? Do we have to do their work? I would be willing to support this idea if I had some certainty that our work would be taken into account, at least considered, but judging by the facts, they never listen, they've never took the time to ask us anything about her career, so, why now?

 

Yes, it's not a very encouraging comment, but it emerges directly from many past experiences in which we hoped, expected... and we got nothing. They all ended in disappointment.

[cmcdaori]

I’m kinda confused. Are you saying we write the songs for her, or pick songs for her to cover? If so, I think it’s an awesome idea! But is it possible?

 

I was wondering too ..

That's exactly what I'm saying. And yes, there is much diversity amongst fans so perhaps those who have talent working with a particular genre of music could work together. Several album concepts could be presented to her team.

 

Considering this, Im working with professional programs for music, recording..so whatever is needed, send me PM .

I think it's kind of rude to tell her what to sing or to do her work at her place. People should have faith in Celine's work and expect the best. I know that nowadays everything is being kinda "coolish" attitude with people; but to do the work at somebody else's place is quite an insult to the singer herself because you are basically saying that she isn't capable to deliver what fans want so we fans tell her what to do; you should have faith in her instead of telling what to do; she's not a disabled woman/singer she can still deliver. Have in faith in her that's all

 

Edit: Add the fact that you don't live in her shoes and you barely know her even if she is an open book, you cannot feel her emotion, live for her. An album is a reflection of Celine's state right now, you cannot take decisions on her behalf because you aren't living her life and have no clue what she's enduring right now

 

Take it easy man, it was only suggestion .

Just to share my thoughts about this... I think the idea is great, and it shows -once again- that fans are "wanting" and are demanding a change in her career and in her music, its a genuine, selfless interest, and I think this is great from our part.

 

However, would they listen us? Do we have to do their work? I would be willing to support this idea if I had some certainty that our work would be taken into account, at least considered, but judging by the facts, they never listen, they've never took the time to ask us anything about her career, so, why now?

 

Yes, it's not a very encouraging comment, but it emerges directly from many past experiences in which we hoped, expected... and we got nothing. They all ended in disappointment.

 

I agree somehow. We need sth, whatever it is in my opinion cuz I got boring of waiting so much time. Im sure that we all eagerly want sth new.

Edited August 10, 2011 at 04:09 PM by cmcdaori

[fyoung98]

I was wondering too ..

Considering this, Im working with professional programs for music, recording..so whatever is needed, send me PM .

Take it easy man, it was only suggestion .

I agree somehow. We need sth, whatever it is in my opinion cuz I got boring of waiting so much time. Im sure that we all eagerly want sth new.

 

 

I'm an amateur at this, so I'm not quite sure what all goes into putting an album together. The obvious would be songwriters/lyricist, composers, actual musicians, singer(s) for the "demo", and engineers. I say we should go as far as CD Cover design as well (maybe music video concepts too:) I know I'm pushing it))

 

If the idea doesn't get to Celine, perhaps we can sell finish products onAmazon or iTunes. Album could be "Celine Fans" or "All the Way with Celine" (I know, lame titles)

 

So how do we get started? Do we need a Project Manager?

[cmcdaori]

I'm an amateur at this, so I'm not quite sure what all goes into putting an album together. The obvious would be songwriters/lyricist, composers, actual musicians, singer(s) for the "demo", and engineers. I say we should go as far as CD Cover design as well (maybe music video concepts too:) I know I'm pushing it))

 

If the idea doesn't get to Celine, perhaps we can sell finish products onAmazon or iTunes. Album could be "Celine Fans" or "All the Way with Celine" (I know, lame titles)

 

So how do we get started? Do we need a Project Manager?

 

I pretty much rather agree with this idea of making fan's album than the other one u have suggested. We can all make sth or just make covers with many fans singing together or separately, whatever..there're many options, but im afraid that not so many people will collaborate with us. Let us see..

[sfbaysinger]

I am sad to hear that the woed disappointment has ever been associated with this woman. How very sad.

I am so in to this, I have two songs already that I have always seen Celine doing and I think would be perfect for her. I am sorry people think she is living in the past and that she does not care about us. If she didn't care about her fans, would she still be doing this? Maybe you don't think she cares as much as you would like her to, vut she does. I feel that from her every live performance and new album. I'm sorry if that makes me unpopular, but I love her music and I am asking for no change in her career. I'd love her to be a tiny bit more active and a little less kid-talking, but I just love her and that's all their freaking is to it. I can sing and play instruments for the songs here, I'm in with you guys. I love the idea of a dedication to her or a fan album, the titles suggested were not lame BTW!!

[Bell]

I'd love her to be a tiny bit more active and a little less kid-talking

That's right.

[Javito]

I am sad to hear that the woed disappointment has ever been associated with this woman. How very sad.

I am so in to this, I have two songs already that I have always seen Celine doing and I think would be perfect for her. I am sorry people think she is living in the past and that she does not care about us. If she didn't care about her fans, would she still be doing this? Maybe you don't think she cares as much as you would like her to, vut she does. I feel that from her every live performance and new album. I'm sorry if that makes me unpopular, but I love her music and I am asking for no change in her career. I'd love her to be a tiny bit more active and a little less kid-talking, but I just love her and that's all their freaking is to it. I can sing and play instruments for the songs here, I'm in with you guys. I love the idea of a dedication to her or a fan album, the titles suggested were not lame BTW!!

 

sfbaysinger, I think you're taking the "disappointment" thing to the wrong side. I don't think nobody here is directly disappointed with Céline, but with all the team surrounding her, which is very different. You say you would like her to be "more active and less kid-talking", which I 100% agree, because its true she dedicates much more time to talk about personal/family matters than about music, and fans here are starving to know more details about every new album and song she releases, but we don't get them from her mouth

 

Of course she cares about us the fans, she's a very caring artist with her public, but maybe not in the way that many us here are expecting. Dissapointment about that with her? I don't think so, it's just the way she is and has always been. Disappointment with all the (many) people that is around her and does little (or nothing!) to listen us and pay attention to what the huge fanbase is demanding here? Absolutely

 

But what concerns Céline herself, it's only that maybe she doesn't imagine that many fans here would like her to sing and promote other songs, talk more about other things, or record songs in this or that particular style, and some here are working to change that vision, or at least let her be aware of this fans wishes

 

What I believe is that Céline/René are 100% convinced and completely sure that fans love everthing she sings and does, and that's so far from the truth. We just can try to change that

[cmcdaori]

sfbaysinger, I think you're taking the "disappointment" thing to the wrong side. I don't think nobody here is directly disappointed with Céline, but with all the team surrounding her, which is very different. You say you would like her to be "more active and less kid-talking", which I 100% agree, because its true she dedicates much more time to talk about personal/family matters than about music, and fans here are starving to know more details about every new album and song she releases, but we don't get them from her mouth

 

Of course she cares about us the fans, she's a very caring artist with her public, but maybe not in the way that many us here are expecting. Dissapointment about that with her? I don't think so, it's just the way she is and has always been. Disappointment with all the (many) people that is around her and does little (or nothing!) to listen us and pay attention to what the huge fanbase is demanding here? Absolutely

 

But what concerns Céline herself, it's only that maybe she doesn't imagine that many fans here would like her to sing and promote other songs, talk more about other things, or record songs in this or that particular style, and some here are working to change that vision, or at least let her be aware of this fans wishes

 

What I believe is that Céline/René are 100% convinced and completely sure that fans love everthing she sings and does, and that's so far from the truth. We just can try to change that

 

This is what my friend told me yesterday. She was like: ''Why don't u let a poor woman. She has a family too, for god sake.'' Hahaha. But it is very different for us-fans. We only want her to sing. Also, I agree that all this has nothing to do with Celine, but looking at the other side, she could change the things if she wanted, but I think she is too preoccupied now to do so . This becomes a habit of her. She always lets Rene think of everything, that's why we have those problems. I think that she should finally say sth she wants to do. If she did it, there would be a great change, Im sure. But the question is will she ever do it..

Edited August 11, 2011 at 09:20 AM by cmcdaori

[Javito]

This is what my friend told me yesterday. She was like: ''Why don't u let a poor woman. She has a family too, for god sake.'' Hahaha. But it is very different for us-fans. We only want her to sing. Also, I agree that all this has nothing to do with Celine, but looking at the other side, she could change the things if she wanted, but I think she is too preoccupied now to do sth .

 

Yes, she has a family... and what? That's not excuse for not recording more albums or promoting her music (a duty that belongs to her record label ). I've watched the other day in the TV that Madonna is releasing a new movie as director, a new album next fall, and she's designed a cloth line, and she's a mother of 3 or 4 children

 

It's the same for her to record an album with a new style or different songs that recording an album full of boring covers or slow ballads. She just needs to know what many fans are wishing her to do

[fyoung98]

Yes, she has a family... and what? That's not excuse for not recording more albums or promoting her music (a duty that belongs to her record label ). I've watched the other day in the TV that Madonna is releasing a new movie as director, a new album next fall, and she's designed a cloth line, and she's a mother of 3 or 4 children

 

It's the same for her to record an album with a new style or different songs that recording an album full of boring covers or slow ballads. She just needs to know what many fans are wishing her to do

 

Madonna is a single woman and has more creative freedom I think. But we are putting our energy in the wrong things. Let's focus on getting the project at hand started. How do we do it and who's interested in participating?

 

PS: how do we keep the idea from getting stolen and put together before we have a chance to? I have suspicions.

[C_Airin_D]

It's stupid to compare the two of them. First - Madonna makes money by making a show - not singing as much! Celine has a voice and wonderful family, she want to do her job and along that to be with her family. Madonna's children are not at 8 months i think. So they cannot be related at all.

 

fyoung98 - I support your idea, hope to work it out soon.

Edited August 11, 2011 at 02:14 PM by C_Airin_D

[Bell]

PS: how do we keep the idea from getting stolen and put together before we have a chance to? I have suspicions.

Oh, yes, this is very important. We really should think seriously about it.

Edited August 12, 2011 at 07:36 AM by Bell

[zoe marie]

I got your point and I totally agree. Your idea is just fantastic! I really love it! I understand that it's not about telling Celine what to do, it's only an idea, a suggestion, we won't force anybody to do anything. Unfortunatelly, I have no gift for making music (although music is one of my greatest passions) so I can't help with any material but I'm with you, I support the idea. I can only tell you what I'd like to hear from Celine - some non-love songs. Don't get me wrong, I like all of her love ballads but I think we've had enough of them so maybe she could do something different this time. And typing 'this time' actually reminds me of her song 'This Time'. Maybe she should do a few more like this.

 

When you mention that song (This Time) it reminds me of what Céline said about it and how she felt that it was a difficult song to sing, due to the words and meaning behind it. The power of a song is when you can truly feel it and while Céline sang the song beautifully and felt so much compassion for those in that situation, Céline didn't want to sing it. It made her cry to think of those people while she sang.

 

I think that song writers should of course send on their songs to Céline, but that we should also respect her wishes to sing anything she considers good enough as it always is!!!