TCWT/CTTEOTW Complaining & Venting Thread

[Tyler1991]

The only things dubbed were:

I Drove All Night (everything except scream towards end; notice the slight change in audio during the scream...you can hear fans cheering for split second)

The Power Of Love (Everything after first verse)

It's All Coming Back To Me Now (starting with the first word, the piano intro was probably taken from the actual concert)

To Love You More (everything)

All By Myself (Only the high note)

Alone (only the last two belts, maybe the entire last chorus, but for sure the last two belts)

Taking Chances (starting with the final chorus and ending with the belted word ...pay....the lower notes are live)

My Heart Will Go On (everything)

Eyes On Me (everything)

 

 

None of the French songs were dubbed. I never said they were, so don't put those words in my mouth.

[fan2celinedion]

Alone:the last chorus!

when you extract the acapella from the 5.1 you hear the audience during all the song except when she start to sing "how do I get you alone?" there is no audience in the acapella--->studio

LOL I keep repeating myself, but no one give a [...] about me

Maybe people Will believe once they have listened to this

and this is only an exemple

Edited June 13, 2010 at 08:31 AM by fan2celinedion

[browseceline]

interesting.. i listened to your acapella alone.. and indeed.. those parts seem to be recorded and not only her voice but even the drums seem to be recorded in studio?

[fan2celinedion]

Thanks

First, I didn't want to post the acapella because I didn't want any problem with Bellamy and Koolan but I did it (sorry) because I think it was the only solution!

Here is the proof, so there is no need to fight anymore

Edited June 13, 2010 at 12:18 PM by fan2celinedion

[browseceline]

why do they not mix studiorecordings with audience sounds? is that so difficult.. now we can just dicover by using software.. it is so obvious now. And although i love love the new recording of the power of love.. i really miss the audiencesounds.. esspecially because they are clapping - even not clapping in the same tempo! -but you cannot hear any audience or clapping sounds..

btw fan2celinedion - what plugin did you use to make the acappela version? you did a very good job!

[fan2celinedion]

I used DVD audio extrator to rip the 5.1 audio (not mp3 but wav) and then I used audacity

Wel in fact They did a very good Job for The power of love there is no difference between the live and the rerecorded part (because they added echoes) but the note in ABM...LMAO

[pol]

The only things dubbed were:

I Drove All Night (everything except scream towards end; notice the slight change in audio during the scream...you can hear fans cheering for split second)

The Power Of Love (Everything after first verse)

It's All Coming Back To Me Now (starting with the first word, the piano intro was probably taken from the actual concert)

To Love You More (everything)

All By Myself (Only the high note)

Alone (only the last two belts, maybe the entire last chorus, but for sure the last two belts)

Taking Chances (starting with the final chorus and ending with the belted word ...pay....the lower notes are live)

My Heart Will Go On (everything)

Eyes On Me (everything)

 

 

None of the French songs were dubbed. I never said they were, so don't put those words in my mouth.

 

 

I agree that "I Drove All NIght", "The Power of Love", "It's All Coming Back To Me now", "To Love You More" and"My Heart Will Go On" were lipped. But how do you know about such songs as "Eyes on Me", "All By Myself" or "Taking Chances"? I can't belive that...

[fan2celinedion]

Eyes on me: 100% lipped

Taking chances: last chorus (except "what do you say x2, don't know much about Your life..."

Alone: last chorus

 

We know it because we are fans and we saw many performances on YouTube/we heard many bootlegs from this forum so we know when her songs sounds the same and when they don't

Edited June 13, 2010 at 01:40 PM by fan2celinedion

[lindsey22]

Geez i don't know how Celine can remember what she is to sing live and what she is to lip. it's mind-boggling.

a sentence here, a sentence there, an exclamation here. a word there, a word here. its crazy! and she makes it all come together so seamless.

and whats with all the re-recrding here , a dubbing there , a dubbing there, and we're not only talking about high notes. we're talking about simple lines and some drums and other instruments. lol. why didnt they just say to hell with it, let's just release a live, uneditted show in its entirity. and you want to know the ironic thing about all of it.

She hit those same notes LIVE at some concert or the other that sounds even better than the dubbed notes. they could have just used a concert like that ( like some excellent voice days she had over in Europe) and abandon the whole "Boston" , "Montreal" billing

Edited June 14, 2010 at 01:09 AM by lindsey22

[fan2celinedion]

LOL I agree! LMAO @ "a sentence here, a sentence there..."

I am repeating myself but I loved the AND DVD more because there were no editing and everything remained exactely like it was in the real concert

[Tyler1991]

Geez i don't know how Celine can remember what she is to sing live and what she is to lip. it's mind-boggling.

a sentence here, a sentence there, an exclamation here. a word there, a word here. its crazy! and she makes it all come together so seamless.

and whats with all the re-recrding here , a dubbing there , a dubbing there, and we're not only talking about high notes. we're talking about simple lines and some drums and other instruments. lol. why didnt they just say to hell with it, let's just release a live, uneditted show in its entirity. and you want to know the ironic thing about all of it.

She hit those same notes LIVE at some concert or the other that sounds even better than the dubbed notes. they could have just used a concert like that ( like some excellent voice days she had over in Europe) and abandon the whole "Boston" , "Montreal" billing

How is it mind boggling? If dozens of fans can know it, then I'm sure she can too....especially when a) it's her job.... most of them she has been doing for so long.

 

And really, only two of the songs go from live to playback then back to live... everything else is either ALL live or ALL playback or... live then playback...so its not like it's this word playback, this line live, then back to playback, then a verse live, a highnote playback, etc.... there is not a whole lot of switching around.

 

And no you're wrong, she did not hit them better than the dubbed versions at other concerts...

 

For the 43083408th time, the only thing dubbed were the songs lipped.....Lipped means NOT LIVE....not live means that it was not sung at any of the other concerts (with the exception of All By Myself which was live for the first show, and no, it was not better)...

 

You argue with me because I try to act all authoratative (which I don't), yet you don't even read what people say.... nobody ever said that the live vocals were re-recorded.

Edited June 14, 2010 at 01:41 AM by Tyler1991

[fan2celinedion]

[lindsey22]

Geez i don't know how Celine can remember what she is to sing live and what she is to lip. it's mind-boggling.

a sentence here, a sentence there, an exclamation here. a word there, a word here. its crazy! and she makes it all come together so seamless.

and whats with all the re-recrding here , a dubbing there , a dubbing there, and we're not only talking about high notes. we're talking about simple lines and some drums and other instruments. lol. why didnt they just say to hell with it, let's just release a live, uneditted show in its entirity. and you want to know the ironic thing about all of it.

She hit those same notes LIVE at some concert or the other that sounds even better than the dubbed notes. they could have just used a concert like that ( like some excellent voice days she had over in Europe) and abandon the whole "Boston" , "Montreal" billing

How is it mind boggling? If dozens of fans can know it, then I'm sure she can too....especially when a) it's her job.... most of them she has been doing for so long.

 

And really, only two of the songs go from live to playback then back to live... everything else is either ALL live or ALL playback or... live then playback...so its not like it's this word playback, this line live, then back to playback, then a verse live, a highnote playback, etc.... there is not a whole lot of switching around.

 

And no you're wrong, she did not hit them better than the dubbed versions at other concerts...

 

For the 43083408th time, the only thing dubbed were the songs lipped.....Lipped means NOT LIVE....not live means that it was not sung at any of the other concerts (with the exception of All By Myself which was live for the first show, and no, it was not better)...

 

You argue with me because I try to act all authoratative (which I don't), yet you don't even read what people say.... nobody ever said that the live vocals were re-recorded.

tyler i wasn't making that post to you specifically so chill out sweetie

 

LOL I agree! LMAO @ "a sentence here, a sentence there..."

I am repeating myself but I loved the AND DVD more because there were no editing and everything remained exactely like it was in the real concert

lol.

Edited June 14, 2010 at 02:43 AM by lindsey22

[Tyler1991]

Do you have a capellas of any other songs? I'd particularly like to hear them for ABM, TPOL, and TC. And IDAN, because there is 1 second of live vocal in that song, lol.... the scream that's close to the end. I can notice a sound difference just listening to that in my car.

[pol]

LOL I agree! LMAO @ "a sentence here, a sentence there..."

I am repeating myself but I loved the AND DVD more because there were no editing and everything remained exactely like it was in the real concert

 

 

Except for the fact that the AND DVD was much more lipped than the TCWT one.

 

I definitely prefer TCWT DVD to the AND one.

Edited June 14, 2010 at 07:16 AM by pol

[celinefanonline]

Do you have a capellas of any other songs? I'd particularly like to hear them for ABM, TPOL, and TC. And IDAN, because there is 1 second of live vocal in that song, lol.... the scream that's close to the end. I can notice a sound difference just listening to that in my car.

 

well for acapella i do have TPOL but it's the old one though!

[fan2celinedion]

This my favorite one LOL Edited June 14, 2010 at 10:58 AM by fan2celinedion

[Timster]

The only things dubbed were:

I Drove All Night (everything except scream towards end; notice the slight change in audio during the scream...you can hear fans cheering for split second)

The Power Of Love (Everything after first verse)

It's All Coming Back To Me Now (starting with the first word, the piano intro was probably taken from the actual concert)

To Love You More (everything)

All By Myself (Only the high note)

Alone (only the last two belts, maybe the entire last chorus, but for sure the last two belts)

Taking Chances (starting with the final chorus and ending with the belted word ...pay....the lower notes are live)

My Heart Will Go On (everything)

Eyes On Me (everything)

 

 

None of the French songs were dubbed. I never said they were, so don't put those words in my mouth.

 

Are you sure the instruments aren't from the actual concert? Cos they record each instrument separately so it's possible they just took away the playback and replaced it with the new studio acapella. But then I guess things like percussion can't be recorded digitally. Unless they got the band to do these songs and recorded them at some point during the tour (maybe in a soundcheck?) I find it hard to believe they would get everyone back together just to do instrumentals for a couple of songs or notes...

 

Also, if you listen to TC acapella in 5.1, you will find the low notes were lipped too, they were definately studio. The audience only faded back in before "don't know much aboiut your life..."

[fan2celinedion]

Are you sure the instruments aren't from the actual concert? Cos they record each instrument separately so it's possible they just took away the playback and replaced it with the new studio acapella. But then I guess things like percussion can't be recorded digitally. Unless they got the band to do these songs and recorded them at some point during the tour (maybe in a soundcheck?) I find it hard to believe they would get everyone back together just to do instrumentals for a couple of songs or notes...

 

Also, if you listen to TC acapella in 5.1, you will find the low notes were lipped too, they were definately studio. The audience only faded back in before "don't know much aboiut your life..."

Yes Timster, they already have the live instrumentals (in TTEOTW, you can hear the instrumentals of EOM, TLYM, TPOL...) All Celine did is go back to the recording studio alone and they added the new vocals!

[andreaaas]

I used DVD audio extrator to rip the 5.1 audio (not mp3 but wav) and then I used audacity

Wel in fact They did a very good Job for The power of love there is no difference between the live and the rerecorded part (because they added echoes) but the note in ABM...LMAO

 

 

how did you do it in audacity?

[fan2celinedion]

I just opened the wav file with audacity and I founded the acapella! You Will see it's easy

[andreaaas]

but how do i know which one's the 5.1 version? can't find it

[fan2celinedion]

On DVD audio extractor, you have to choose 6 Channel audio

[andreaaas]

got it! thanks

[andreaaas]

still hear the music as normal

[fan2celinedion]

I'll PM you

[andreaaas]

now i found it!

[fan2celinedion]

[Tyler1991]

The only things dubbed were:

I Drove All Night (everything except scream towards end; notice the slight change in audio during the scream...you can hear fans cheering for split second)

The Power Of Love (Everything after first verse)

It's All Coming Back To Me Now (starting with the first word, the piano intro was probably taken from the actual concert)

To Love You More (everything)

All By Myself (Only the high note)

Alone (only the last two belts, maybe the entire last chorus, but for sure the last two belts)

Taking Chances (starting with the final chorus and ending with the belted word ...pay....the lower notes are live)

My Heart Will Go On (everything)

Eyes On Me (everything)

 

 

None of the French songs were dubbed. I never said they were, so don't put those words in my mouth.

 

Are you sure the instruments aren't from the actual concert? Cos they record each instrument separately so it's possible they just took away the playback and replaced it with the new studio acapella. But then I guess things like percussion can't be recorded digitally. Unless they got the band to do these songs and recorded them at some point during the tour (maybe in a soundcheck?) I find it hard to believe they would get everyone back together just to do instrumentals for a couple of songs or notes...

 

Also, if you listen to TC acapella in 5.1, you will find the low notes were lipped too, they were definately studio. The audience only faded back in before "don't know much aboiut your life..."

 

 

I didn't know the low notes were lipped too.....but now that I've compared a few audios I think you are right..

I'd still like to hear the acapella for TC, TPOL, and IDAN.

[meanttofly]

I find it a very enjoyable dvd, amazingly filmed dispite all the re-recording and editing, but what I found cheap was the description of the songlist in the booklet: Fade away doesn´t appear, different numbers for the same songs, a real mess.