TCWT/CTTEOTW Complaining & Venting Thread

[TheOne]

No! Thanks, I do have more important things in life than ear picking audience noises. I don't care of it's all live or if it's all been studio enigneered. The final product is extremely enjoyable and I suggest you enjoy the performance as a whole instead of trying to pick mistake after mistake.

She's lipped for the past 2 decades, why would this be any different?

[fan2celinedion]

I don't care too! I really love the new version of TPOL and IACBTMN for exemple

 

but I don't like the fact that some people here don't want to hear any explanation and want to blindly believe that Celine decided Miraculously to sing live that night! I mean... come on! Are you stupid?

Edited May 15, 2010 at 06:40 PM by fan2celinedion

[tonybower]

I watched the Boston concert for the first time today.

I could have cried when I heard the new version of TPOL! I absolutely love it ! This is probably my fave Celine song so to hear a different sound was so refreshing. I would have been appalled to hear the same prerecorded version that has been used for the last 10 years. I can't tell you how often I listen to the live opening verse on each lipped version just to hear the differences. I love it! And I'm so glad we have an entirely new version.

 

But can somebody clarify: did she lip to the new version during the show or was it dubbed in during editing? I honestly think it looks authentic as she is less dramatic with the lip quivering typical of her lipped performances.... I also suspect that more of the song is live than previously. Does she still lip beyond the first 'Cause I'm your lady...' or am I right in thinking there are other live sequences?

 

Either way, I love it! As I love the new versions of TLYM etc. Even if it is not as technically sound as earlier versions it reflects Celine's voice as it is today.

 

I love ABM... especially when her voice breaks at the end. I've always liked hearing her voice crack - it's more raw and emotional. Please reassure me that she only lips the big note. The rest seems live as does the amazing finale. It is a bit nasal but when I listen to earlier live performances there is not much difference.

 

As for Alone - not my fave song anyway but I think it is a good performance and I am glad to see that much of it is entirely live. if I'm honest I expected worse and I'm pleased to say I really like this version.

 

I also LOVE that they include Fade Away and that it is 100% live!!

 

My only objections are as follows: the concert seems very flat and the DVD does not capture the electricity I felt at the 7 shows I attended in 2008.

Why is this?? Is it poor editing or were the Boston shows really this mechanical?

 

The My Love sequence seems very rushed and insincere and I suspect this is down to poor editing which is a shame as this was one of the staple performances.

 

My biggest disappointment was the absence of the live intro to I Drove All Night. Was this simply cut or did she not sing it on the night? Either way her opening "Is that alright Boston?" is rendered absolutley meaningless!

 

I think Celine looks great and sounds much better than anticipated. You only have to compare the Vegas version of I'm Alive to this nes version to swee that the desert was no good for her voice. However, poor editing and transitions between songs take awaymuch of the essence and energy of the concerts. I was hoping to be blown away by the DVD so I could show it off to friends but I'm not as overwhelmed as I had hoped!

 

Nevertheless, I am happy for the opportunity to relive some of the best moments of the tour and I can rest assured that any flaws are due mainly to editing.

[fan2celinedion]

I always thought it was 100% live because her voice was not perfect but raw and because she was shaking!

 

when I extracted the acapellas from the DVD I noticed for exemple that in the acapellas you can hear the audiance but when she sings the note, there is no noise (studio) at the end of the note you can here the audiance again! Same for Taking chances and Alone, we can clearly hear the audiance noise but in the rerecorded parts, there is no noise (studio recordig)

 

It's 100% true, I know what I'm saying!

[nuts2you]

Sorry it's all lipped ALL the note of ABM is lipped not only the ending like I thought!

Stop saying it's live please! I have the acapellas and you can clearly hear the audiance noise except when it's rerecorded (studio/no audience) Do you want to hear them???

 

 

Yes pls do ,

[fan2celinedion]

Sorry it's all lipped ALL the note of ABM is lipped not only the ending like I thought!

Stop saying it's live please! I have the acapellas and you can clearly hear the audiance noise except when it's rerecorded (studio/no audience) Do you want to hear them???

 

 

Yes pls do ,

 

sorry?

[Claudette]

I finally found a concert DVD today (after they were suppose to release it last week, but for some reason didn't) and I have to say that I'm not impress at all.

 

First, now I get the intro thing people were complaning about. If they didn't make the applause thing so long, maybe it wouldn't have been so weird, but because of that, it doesn't make sense. ''Is that alright Boston?'' Is what alright? People already forgot the intro was ''I Drove All Night''...

 

I was looking forward to the new songs and I'm sorry to say that except for ''Taking Chances'' and ''My Love'', the rest were a complete mess. She starts ''Shadow of Love'' so beautifully and than she just messes it up.

 

I kind of feel like there was not much to the English concert. If you think about it, many of the older songs were originally lippped and what they have done here only they would know, but if you take those songs away, there were not that many songs performed live on the actual night they filmed it.

 

The concert seemed rushed and at the beginning Celine doesn't talk much to the audience, which gives you the feeling that she is not really connected to the audience. But I guess this could be due to editing.

 

I can't believe I'm gonna say this because I'm usuallly the one defending Celine here, but here goes: Celine's nasality was so bad on some songs that her voice annoyed me at times. I don't know if it is because I listened to the concert for the first time on surround sound and it became clearer (because last week when I listened to the CD on the internet it wasn't so bad), if I'm just tired (I had a long day) or because everybody else is always going on about it that I'm now so focussed on it that I imagining things. Celine really needs to start looking into that and try and sort it out... I'm gonna watch the DVD again tomorrow after a long night's rest. Maybe I'll change my mind, because last week it didn't sound so bad on the YouTube clips and stuff.

 

I'm looking forward to seeing the French concert. Her French shows are always better than the English shows.

Edited May 15, 2010 at 09:13 PM by Claudette

[fan2celinedion]

Oh my Dion! Claudette is complaining :laugh:

Yes I agree, it's weird I mean why remove the intro in order to make the applause so long

[Claudette]

Oh my Dion! Claudette is complaining :laugh:

Yes I agree, it's weird I mean why remove the intro in order to make the applause so long

 

I never said the DVD was perfect. I think I should just go to bed and watch it tomorrow again after I got some sleep.

 

It is one thing listening to audio clips on the internet and seeing it on your TV with surround sound though. It doesn't look or sound the same...

[fan2celinedion]

It is one thing listening to audio clips on the internet and seeing it on your TV with surround sound though. It doesn't look or sound the same...

[riobeard11]

I was looking forward to the new songs and I'm sorry to say that except for ''Taking Chances'' and ''My Love'', the rest were a complete mess. She starts ''Shadow of Love'' so beautifully and than she just messes it up.

 

...

 

The concert seemed rushed and at the beginning Celine doesn't talk much to the audience, which gives you the feeling that she is not really connected to the audience. But I guess this could be due to editing.

 

...

 

I can't believe I'm gonna say this because I'm usuallly the one defending Celine here, but here goes: Celine's nasality was so bad on some songs that her voice annoyed me at times.

 

I'm looking forward to seeing the French concert. Her French shows are always better than the English shows.

I agree with the first thing you said about the new songs, it's so weird. Although, I do like the little "wooh-ooh-woo-ooh-woo-ooh" that she does near the end of Shadow of Love

 

I was also really disappointed with how they completely cut out her speeches throughout the show. There were so many other things she said throughout the shows on those nights. Why don't they think we want to see these things?!

 

And yes, the voice did start to annoy me a bit, too. I'm only commenting on this because, like you said, I also am not usually one to complain about her voice sounding weird, but it was just really odd. I don't know. I'm really happy to have the DVDs but I'm not impressed

 

I'd like to see the French concert, I'll just have to buy it one of these days and wait for it to ship. Does she sing as many songs with playback during her French concerts?

[fan2celinedion]

The french songs are 100% live and sounded great! (Except PQTME, I rather listen to the "Boston" version!)

The english songs are all the same except "my love" which was better in Montreal!

Edited May 15, 2010 at 10:00 PM by fan2celinedion

[riobeard11]

I meant not on the DVDs, but when she actually does a French concert...does she use playback?

[Javito]

I finally found a concert DVD today (after they were suppose to release it last week, but for some reason didn't) and I have to say that I'm not impress at all.

 

First, now I get the intro thing people were complaning about. If they didn't make the applause thing so long, maybe it wouldn't have been so weird, but because of that, it doesn't make sense. ''Is that alright Boston?'' Is what alright? People already forgot the intro was ''I Drove All Night''...

 

I was looking forward to the new songs and I'm sorry to say that except for ''Taking Chances'' and ''My Love'', the rest were a complete mess. She starts ''Shadow of Love'' so beautifully and than she just messes it up.

 

I kind of feel like there was not much to the English concert. If you think about it, many of the older songs were originally lippped and what they have done here only they would know, but if you take those songs away, there were not that many songs performed live on the actual night they filmed it.

 

The concert seemed rushed and at the beginning Celine doesn't talk much to the audience, which gives you the feeling that she is not really connected to the audience. But I guess this could be due to editing.

 

I can't believe I'm gonna say this because I'm usuallly the one defending Celine here, but here goes: Celine's nasality was so bad on some songs that her voice annoyed me at times. I don't know if it is because I listened to the concert for the first time on surround sound and it became clearer (because last week when I listened to the CD on the internet it wasn't so bad), if I'm just tired (I had a long day) or because everybody else is always going on about it that I'm now so focussed on it that I imagining things. Celine really needs to start looking into that and try and sort it out... I'm gonna watch the DVD again tomorrow after a long night's rest. Maybe I'll change my mind, because last week it didn't sound so bad on the YouTube clips and stuff.

 

I'm looking forward to seeing the French concert. Her French shows are always better than the English shows.

 

Aha! Even you complain, at least for once! You see, it isn't that bad!

 

I wanted to coment of what you say about Céline's nasality today when she sings, because I agree. She uses that nasality "mode" a lot these days, but I think its for protecting her voice. I think her voice suffers less if she sings that way, in a "fake" voice, than using all her vocal abilities to sing like she sings in the album studio versions of the songs for instance

 

I neither like it, but after all, it wasn't that bad in the DVD, at least if you listen the concert in 5.1 (the whole surround effects help you not to concentrate only in Céline's voice ). I think that following the advice of a friend in the spanish section (thank you Tere! ) was a great idea to enjoy the concert DVD without prejudices: she told me to watch first the DVD and then listen the CD And I really enjoyed the concert then. Of course in the audio CD you can notice the parts where Céline's nasality is excessive, even annoying as you say, but it has been "softened" by the DVD experience, which is great

[fan2celinedion]

I meant not on the DVDs, but when she actually does a French concert...does she use playback?

oh sorry!

I don't think so

 

That's true Javito, when you watch the DVD, you don't concentrate on

Celine's voice I think they should have not released a CD, only a DVD! There is many wrong things about the CD!

Edited May 15, 2010 at 10:40 PM by fan2celinedion

[Claudette]

I finally found a concert DVD today (after they were suppose to release it last week, but for some reason didn't) and I have to say that I'm not impress at all.

 

First, now I get the intro thing people were complaning about. If they didn't make the applause thing so long, maybe it wouldn't have been so weird, but because of that, it doesn't make sense. ''Is that alright Boston?'' Is what alright? People already forgot the intro was ''I Drove All Night''...

 

I was looking forward to the new songs and I'm sorry to say that except for ''Taking Chances'' and ''My Love'', the rest were a complete mess. She starts ''Shadow of Love'' so beautifully and than she just messes it up.

 

I kind of feel like there was not much to the English concert. If you think about it, many of the older songs were originally lippped and what they have done here only they would know, but if you take those songs away, there were not that many songs performed live on the actual night they filmed it.

 

The concert seemed rushed and at the beginning Celine doesn't talk much to the audience, which gives you the feeling that she is not really connected to the audience. But I guess this could be due to editing.

 

I can't believe I'm gonna say this because I'm usuallly the one defending Celine here, but here goes: Celine's nasality was so bad on some songs that her voice annoyed me at times. I don't know if it is because I listened to the concert for the first time on surround sound and it became clearer (because last week when I listened to the CD on the internet it wasn't so bad), if I'm just tired (I had a long day) or because everybody else is always going on about it that I'm now so focussed on it that I imagining things. Celine really needs to start looking into that and try and sort it out... I'm gonna watch the DVD again tomorrow after a long night's rest. Maybe I'll change my mind, because last week it didn't sound so bad on the YouTube clips and stuff.

 

I'm looking forward to seeing the French concert. Her French shows are always better than the English shows.

 

Aha! Even you complain, at least for once! You see, it isn't that bad!

 

I wanted to coment of what you say about Céline's nasality today when she sings, because I agree. She uses that nasality "mode" a lot these days, but I think its for protecting her voice. I think her voice suffers less if she sings that way, in a "fake" voice, than using all her vocal abilities to sing like she sings in the album studio versions of the songs for instance

 

I neither like it, but after all, it wasn't that bad in the DVD, at least if you listen the concert in 5.1 (the whole surround effects help you not to concentrate only in Céline's voice ). I think that following the advice of a friend in the spanish section (thank you Tere! ) was a great idea to enjoy the concert DVD without prejudices: she told me to watch first the DVD and then listen the CD And I really enjoyed the concert then. Of course in the audio CD you can notice the parts where Céline's nasality is excessive, even annoying as you say, but it has been "softened" by the DVD experience, which is great

 

I'm gonna watch the DVD tomorrow again. I'm just tired and annoyed (I played three netball matches today), so I think that is why it bothered me so much tonight. I also noticed something now while I was looking at some parts again on my computer. The images on the menu is black and white and the block around the writing is purple, while on my TV it was blue-greyish and red-purple, so I guess my TV is not 100% tuned in or something. I thought that there was something up with the colours and stuff earlier, but I didn't realize it was my TV.

 

What became clear to me though is that the lipped songs were definitely rerecorded afterwards as her voice sounds totally different. In fact, I think she has an interesting quality in her voice in some parts of ''The Power of Love'' and ''My Heart Will Go On''. All the old songs sounded amazing. ''The Prayer'' was great. Because You Loved me sounded better than the Vegas version and not nasally at all. But ''Shadow of Love'' was horrible, ''Fade Away'' horrible and ''Alone'' was ok after the big note in the middle. ABM also had a few nasally notes that annoyed me...

 

I get what you are saying about her voice suffereng less when she sings that way, but what is bothering me about it is that more and more people are starting to notice it and commenting on it. I think that is exactly why I'm also focussing more and more on it. At first it didn't bother me that much.

 

I ordered the Frence version, so I'll wait for that one. But her French shows are always great. She always gives her all for the French shows...

[fan2celinedion]

Oh! I really like FA I loved the high note but yeah she is singing more with her noise IACBTMN is better now Edited May 15, 2010 at 11:00 PM by fan2celinedion

[Javito]

I'm gonna watch the DVD tomorrow again. I'm just tired and annoyed (I played three netball matches today), so I think that is why it bothered me so much tonight. I also noticed something now while I was looking at some parts again on my computer. The images on the menu is black and white and the block around the writing is purple, while on my TV it was blue-greyish and red-purple, so I guess my TV is not 100% tuned in or something. I thought that there was something up with the colours and stuff earlier, but I didn't realize it was my TV.

 

What became clear to me though is that the lipped songs were definitely rerecorded afterwards as her voice sounds totally different. In fact, I think she has an interesting quality in her voice in some parts of ''The Power of Love'' and ''My Heart Will Go On''. All the old songs sounded amazing. ''The Prayer'' was great. Because You Loved me sounded better than the Vegas version and not nasally at all. But ''Shadow of Love'' was horrible, ''Fade Away'' horrible and ''Alone'' was ok after the big note in the middle. ABM also had a few nasally notes that annoyed me...

 

I get what you are saying about her voice suffereng less when she sings that way, but what is bothering me about it is that more and more people are starting to notice it and commenting on it. I think that is exactly why I'm also focussing more and more on it. At first it didn't bother me that much.

 

Fans have been noticing that since the second year of her Vegas adventure, 2004!! It all started there, the nasality thing, with her excessive calendar of shows in that place. I remember many fans complaining about that since the beggining of the show in 2003 and we anticipated the consequences of that (though during 2003 she still sang great as in the 90's)... and here are them A year later arrived the live CD, which was a complete disaster vocally as we all know.

 

Befor 2003? Nothing of this happened. She toured and did many concerts, yes, but each night was different, she enjoyed it. I don't think she has enjoyed her Vegas adventure. The reasons why she comes back again there, only she and René know

 

I ordered the Frence version, so I'll wait for that one. But her French shows are always great. She always gives her all for the French shows...

 

I've watched almost all the french performance of the DVD. I skipped the english songs as you all know what happened with them (or almost all, they are the same). But for some reason, I wasn't as impressed with her french performances as I was 2 weeks ago with the english concert I don't know why, but except Destin (gorgeous, like day and night compared with Les Plaines version!!!) and L'amour Existe Encore (very powerful performance, with that new pause in the second bridge), I didn't found the other performances remarkable as did the english concert. Maybe I was too excited the other day when I had in my hands the concert of this world tour, but I'm still excited to watch it again and when I listen to the live CD.

 

SINERQU was mediocre to me, not impressive at all (it lacks the strength of the album version, as happens with some other songs), and TOO BAD that Je Sais Pas is not the version of the 15th august we can see in youtube

 

I'll have to watch it again and in its full programme of course, but for the moment, I stick to the english concert :in_love:

[lindsey22]

If you exctract the acapellas from the 5.1 surround of the DVD you will understand why it's not live!

 

 

Well in the acapella of ABM you can hear the audience and when she sings the note, then, nothing no audience 0% and at the end of the note, you can hear the audience again! It's the same for the last chorus of TC and alone!!! It's a proof they were rerecorded!

If you don't want to believe it, i can do nothing for you...

 

 

No complains I am not a hardcore fan anymore, I am just here for the music. And she does the job, still, and will always do so.

 

This is the second time u declare urself as not being almost a fan, so didnt u lost ur way being here

i notice that too

 

 

Well in the acapella of ABM you can hear the audience and when she sings the note, then, nothing no audience 0% and at the end of the note, you can hear the audience again! It's the same for the last chorus of TC and alone!!! It's a proof they were rerecorded!

If you don't want to believe it, i can do nothing for you...

How can I believe anything if I can't hear what you are talking about? It's not like I'm being blind on purpose.

 

Don't take this the wrong way.....

 

If you haven't noticed the lack of audience noise in your first time watching the DVD, then that's bad...but if you STILL can't notice it after seeing it a second time (and having read posts on here with the various complaints about it), then I would have to say you're being "blind" on purpose.

 

IDAN for example.

The crowd is going wild while she is standing there. The music starts. It's all gone. There is actually a 1/2 second where they go back into live vocals from the concert (rather than the dubbed). This is the part where she screams YEAH! towards the end. In that split second you should be able to hear audience noise.

 

TPOL...there is always clapping during the first "Cause I'm your lady..." ....you can visibly see that people are clapping...yet no audio of it.

 

ABM...during the "big note" there is ALWAYS a ton of noise! They actually did dub in a slight amount for this, but nothing like what you would normally hear.

 

 

I always thought it was 100% live because her voice was not perfect but raw and because she was shaking!

 

when I extracted the acapellas from the DVD I noticed for exemple that in the acapellas you can hear the audiance but when she sings the note, there is no noise (studio) at the end of the note you can here the audiance again! Same for Taking chances and Alone, we can clearly hear the audiance noise but in the rerecorded parts, there is no noise (studio recordig)

 

It's 100% true, I know what I'm saying!

howmany times are you going to repeat the same thing and on top you were calling people "stupid"

 

Oh my Dion! Claudette is complaining :laugh:

Yes I agree, it's weird I mean why remove the intro in order to make the applause so long

 

I never said the DVD was perfect. I think I should just go to bed and watch it tomorrow again after I got some sleep.

 

It is one thing listening to audio clips on the internet and seeing it on your TV with surround sound though. It doesn't look or sound the same...

i dont get what your saying. your saying that the dvd surround sound isnt good?

[I Drove All Night!]

Ok, so after all this lipping vs. live argument, could someone post a list of the songs/notes that ARE live. While I don't like the fact that she lips... especially for a LIVE dvd... I know that singing night after night wreaks havoc on that beautiful voice... so I would just like to know which songs and "power notes" are indeed the real thing Thanks!

[Claudette]

I've watched almost all the french performance of the DVD. I skipped the english songs as you all know what happened with them (or almost all, they are the same). But for some reason, I wasn't as impressed with her french performances as I was 2 weeks ago with the english concert I don't know why, but except Destin (gorgeous, like day and night compared with Les Plaines version!!!) and L'amour Existe Encore (very powerful performance, with that new pause in the second bridge), I didn't found the other performances remarkable as did the english concert. Maybe I was too excited the other day when I had in my hands the concert of this world tour, but I'm still excited to watch it again and when I listen to the live CD.

 

SINERQU was mediocre to me, not impressive at all (it lacks the strength of the album version, as happens with some other songs), and TOO BAD that Je Sais Pas is not the version of the 15th august we can see in youtube

 

I'll have to watch it again and in its full programme of course, but for the moment, I stick to the english concert :in_love:

 

If you prefer the English concert, then I'm really worried...

[fan2celinedion]

Sorry Lindsay the DVD is 100% live! She decided to sing live that night!

[Timster]

Ok, so after all this lipping vs. live argument, could someone post a list of the songs/notes that ARE live. While I don't like the fact that she lips... especially for a LIVE dvd... I know that singing night after night wreaks havoc on that beautiful voice... so I would just like to know which songs and "power notes" are indeed the real thing Thanks!

 

The songs/notes that were lipped during the tour (and therefore re-recorded for the DVDs) are:

 

-I Drove All Night

-The Power of Love (except the first verse)

-Taking Chances (final chorus with the high note)

-It's All Coming Back To Me Now

-To Love You More

-Eyes on Me

-All By Myself ('anymore' high note)

-Alone (Final 2 'alone' ending notes)

-My Heart Will Go On

 

All the rest is live

[fan2celinedion]

Not only the 2 "alone" all the last Chorus!

[Javito]

I've watched almost all the french performance of the DVD. I skipped the english songs as you all know what happened with them (or almost all, they are the same). But for some reason, I wasn't as impressed with her french performances as I was 2 weeks ago with the english concert I don't know why, but except Destin (gorgeous, like day and night compared with Les Plaines version!!!) and L'amour Existe Encore (very powerful performance, with that new pause in the second bridge), I didn't found the other performances remarkable as did the english concert. Maybe I was too excited the other day when I had in my hands the concert of this world tour, but I'm still excited to watch it again and when I listen to the live CD.

 

SINERQU was mediocre to me, not impressive at all (it lacks the strength of the album version, as happens with some other songs), and TOO BAD that Je Sais Pas is not the version of the 15th august we can see in youtube

 

I'll have to watch it again and in its full programme of course, but for the moment, I stick to the english concert :in_love:

 

If you prefer the English concert, then I'm really worried...

 

I don't know, maybe it wasn't the perfect moment to watch another Céline DVD, we've been having too much Céline these days... I'll let pass some days until I watch it again in its full lenght

[Claudette]

I take back what I said about ''Fade Away'' and ''Alone''. But I'm not changing my opinion on ''Shadow of Love''. I cannot watch that performance. It is one of my favourite songs on the TC album and it is just horrible on this DVD. She did it so beautifully here in SA... Edited May 16, 2010 at 09:30 AM by Claudette

[Javito]

I take back what I said about ''Fade Away'' and ''Alone''. But I'm not changing my opinion on ''Shadow of Love''. I cannot watch that performance. It is one of my favourite songs on the TC album and it is just horrible on this DVD. She did it so beautifully here in SA...

 

I love the adlibing she does in that song at the end, they should have added those effect in the studio version Other than that, yeah, it lacks the energy and power of the album version.

[Koolan]

I don't care too! I really love the new version of TPOL and IACBTMN for exemple

 

but I don't like the fact that some people here don't want to hear any explanation and want to blindly believe that Celine decided Miraculously to sing live that night! I mean... come on! Are you stupid?

That comment is uncalled for. I already gave you another chance to behave. Next time, it will be a permanent ban.

[fan2celinedion]

Koolan I didn't say that He is stupid! Why do you want to make me say what I never said!

 

I didn't expressed myself very well! All I wanted to say is that "Come on! You are not stupid! you are too intelligent to believe what they want to make you believe!"

 

That's what I wanted to say don't make me say what I never wanted to say...

Edited May 16, 2010 at 05:28 PM by fan2celinedion

[nature boy]

I've not had chance to hear these acapellas yet. BUT this is one of the reasons I don't post here that often. I choose to believe that this concert is mostly (i'm not totally blind ) live, I have my reasons and people have thiers to believe otherwise. Let's be honest NO ONE knows for 100% certainty that these notes are live, mimed or are a pre-recorded live vocal. Just becuase someone has managed to extract the music, does that mean what we are then hearing is the true vocal? I don't know if you are a music producer/editer etc. Maybe you have experience in this field? As for the applause I did notice that one minute it's louder than others. Couldn't that be how it was actually recorded? I have a few live DVDs that to be honest it's really hard to tell if an audience were actually there, and I know that it was a full live concert. We all know concert DVDs get tweakd and redubbed. They can obviusly do that with audience noise yes?

 

Anyway I'll look forward to hearing the acapellas with an open mind (seriously thanks for them ), but if I choose to think different than others that doesn't make me right and you wrong, or indeed me wrong and you right. This is a forum after all and we are all entitled to our own opinions and shouldn't be knocked for them.

 

The only people that know with 100% certainty are Celine and the tour band/crew. But it surely isn't beyond the realms of possibility that if they are filming the shows to be released that Celine may have decided to sing live on those nights?