Outdoor stage - a disaster

[MartinMunich]

Hi everyone,

 

I think the stage she used in Dublin (which will probably be the "official" outdoor stage) is a slap in the face of people who payed 200 EUR - so CHEAP!!!!

 

If you look at the Croke Park pics you see all the construction stuff on stage...terrible.

 

I am so dissappointed.

 

She should spend some time and go to a Kylie concert to see what a stage should look like.

 

I hope she gets the bad reviews she deserves for delivering such bad qualitity.

[destin139]

ok... but thats probs just your opinion. i didnt go but i saw the photos and it looked really cool!

and you should never wish bad reviews on anyone, thats just mean...

people went to see the show to hear celine sing, not analyse the construction of the stage. when i sawe her in london i couldnt have cared less if she's turned up standing on a wooden box in her pyjamas, her voice is what i went to see/hear - the rest was a lovely added bonus!!

[I Surrender]

Thats a bit harsh dont u think ?

[Teodora]

I'm sorry, but you sound really, really silly (and I use this word not to be harsh). You pay the money to see/hear her sing, not to see a damn stage. For all I care, they could put her up on a chair, like her brothers used to do when she was a kid, and I wouldn't care less. I want to see/hear her sing, I don't give a damn about the stage. The stage is just a plus, it's not what I - and I think any real fan - pays for. Kylie needs a mindblowing stage, cause she can't sing if her life depended on it! There, you do pay to see the stage, cause there's nothing else. Edited June 1, 2008 at 12:16 PM by Teodora

[Dionesque]

AMEN to that - I agree 100% with you, Teodora!

I just want to see Celine close to me and especially HEAR her singing!!

That's all I care for!

[Lizzy]

ok... but thats probs just your opinion. i didnt go but i saw the photos and it looked really cool!

and you should never wish bad reviews on anyone, thats just mean...

people went to see the show to hear celine sing, not analyse the construction of the stage. when i sawe her in london i couldnt have cared less if she's turned up standing on a wooden box in her pyjamas, her voice is what i went to see/hear - the rest was a lovely added bonus!!

 

 

I couldn`t have said it better. I totally agree !

[anna]

Hi everyone,

 

I think the stage she used in Dublin (which will probably be the "official" outdoor stage) is a slap in the face of people who payed 200 EUR - so CHEAP!!

 

I hope she gets the bad reviews she deserves for delivering such bad qualitity.

 

 

well i like the stage

[deccyf]

Westlife are playing Croke Park tonight which probably explains the stage for Friday's gig - her equipment would have to be moved and Westlifes taken in practically in a day using the same stage structure! I'm not aware she got bad reviews for the gig here.

[CDI]

I have to admit in a sense, the concert was excellent but when you pay good money they should use the proper stage that everyone else see's , its not really fair, lucky that had big screens and it was a MASSIVE stage but it was very basic!, even if they had have had a bit comong out into the crowd for her to come out on it would have made all the difference, she seemed very restricted on it.

[Chula]

I don't understand why they didn't use the in-the-round stage. The venue is huge and Ireland's technology can support logistics requirements. This case is Poland and Czech as well.

[Dionesque]

In Poland there will be a stage similair to Dublin, it won't be the in-round-stage there either.

[celinestar]

I agree with everyone who said they just want to hear her sing! The stage at one end may not have been as good as in he round but to get a bad review for that would be unfair.

Celine could stand there and sing the phone book and i'd still be impressed! The two concerts i saw in London and Birmingham were amazing and yes i did have a brilliant view so i can understand it might be annoying if the view was not so good, but Celine never deserves a bad review for that!

Edited June 1, 2008 at 05:20 PM by celinestar

[CDI]

yeah the performance was excellent, infact I think she sounded better in Dublin than in some of her "A New Day" dvd tracks... just the stage was a bit of a let down...

[I Surrender]

I doubt it its up to Celine to decide which stage will be used. She arrives and whatever stage is there she will perform on it. I agree its a shame we all dont get the same stage but I am sure there are valid reasons for that.

[CDI]

I think its the venue's decision on the location of the stage, I don't think Croke Park allows stages on the pitch

[MartinMunich]

you may call me silly or whatever words you used above - i still think this stage is a JOKE! nothing but a joke.

 

you can see the raw steel construction, covered with plastic sheets. terrible. tasteless. not appropriate. cheap. respectless towards her fans.

 

when she toured with "lets talk about love" back in 99 she played on a gorgeous stage - also the outdoor venues.

i don´t know what motivates her or her management to go for such solutions....

 

people payed a fortune to see a show that is appropriate for an international star as celine is.

 

every stupid rockfestival has a better stage.

 

a cheap tasteless joke.

[godessceline]

 

She should spend some time and go to a Kylie concert to see what a stage should look like.

 

I hope she gets the bad reviews she deserves for delivering such bad qualitity.

 

 

Sure...if it wasn't for the fact that Céline has absoltuely nothing to do with the way the stage is constructed! You make it sound like it's her personal fault. She doesn't set the price for the tickets either, you know. Think things through before you write, would you.

[ce-line]

ok... but thats probs just your opinion. i didnt go but i saw the photos and it looked really cool!

and you should never wish bad reviews on anyone, thats just mean...

people went to see the show to hear celine sing, not analyse the construction of the stage. when i sawe her in london i couldnt have cared less if she's turned up standing on a wooden box in her pyjamas, her voice is what i went to see/hear - the rest was a lovely added bonus!!

 

Hear! Hear!

[zoea2812]

At the end of the day, i would not care whether she was just in a dark room singing. It doesnt matter what the stgae looks like, you have paid to see Celine sing and that is what happened. from what i have seen Celine was brilliant as always and so the stage appearance should not matter.

[MartinMunich]

whether is her personally or her team - i don´t care. and of course she does in a way- it is her artistic responsibility.

 

i love her, i really do - i just would like to see the best of her. i know i know you all come because of her voice ...blabla....but this cheap steel constructions she plays on plus the fact that she is miming a good portion of the show - i really get disappointed in a way.

 

She should spend some time and go to a Kylie concert to see what a stage should look like.

 

I hope she gets the bad reviews she deserves for delivering such bad qualitity.

 

 

Sure...if it wasn't for the fact that Céline has absoltuely nothing to do with the way the stage is constructed! You make it sound like it's her personal fault. She doesn't set the price for the tickets either, you know. Think things through before you write, would you.

[CDI]

I think everyone needs to calm down lol... I think what Martin is getting at is, she had a stage specially made for the tour, this specific date is part of the tour and the tickets were higher than what you'd usually pay here and we didn't get the full package... everything combined MAKES the tour what it is, I cannot for one second diss her performance but he has a point about the stage, it wasn't anything special and anyone who got to see the proper official stage got a bit of an advantage over everyone who didn't, so in that sense it was unfair especially for anyone who travelled to see this... the only thing that impressed me about it was its size. BUT I do agree its not her fault, its both her promoters and managements fault and she doesn't deserve bad reviews because it was amazing. Edited June 1, 2008 at 06:45 PM by CDI

[zanif]

I agree with everyone that watching Celine performs is more important than what the stage looks like but I think Martin has every right to be angry. It is an expensive ticket and since its in Dublin, as a fan I would love if Celine performs on a center stage like MOST of her European leg tour.

 

However, to say that she should deserve a bad review, is not right. Just my 2 cents.

[tobywoby]

I think everyone needs to calm down lol... I think what Martin is getting at is, she had a stage specially made for the tour, this specific date is part of the tour and the tickets were higher than what you'd usually pay here and we didn't get the full package... everything combined MAKES the tour what it is, I cannot for one second diss her performance but he has a point about the stage, it wasn't anything special and anyone who got to see the proper official stage got a bit of an advantage over everyone who didn't, so in that sense it was unfair especially for anyone who travelled to see this... the only thing that impressed me about it was its size. BUT I do agree its not her fault, its both her promoters and managements fault and she doesn't deserve bad reviews because it was amazing.

 

 

Well said....I agree 100%....I hope this improves for the Nice show though.

[hamiltonclare]

Gotta say - if I had have been able to see Celine in Dublin, I wouldn't have given a toss about what the stage looked like!!!

[dirrtydavid]

I can understand what martin is saying, as i said in the dublin thread, for paying 250 euros for 2 premium seating tickets, i should not have had to rely on the screens to see in detail what was happening on stage. I couldn't see what her entrances, couldn't see the band. I see no reason why she couldn't have had a cat walk or 2 at either side.

 

One of the things i hate about coming on dedicated celebrity forums such as this one is the comments like "Kylie needs a mindblowing stage because she can't sing". Kylie can sing, she is a very capable singer. Die-hard fans of people like Celine, Mariah, Whitney etc immediately write off people like Kylie just because they can't hammer a song home. At least Kylie's mindblowing stage justifies her prices. I wouldn't again pay 250 euros just to hear Celine sing, it's her/her company blatantly taking the piss.

 

Croke Park's Potential:

 

Bon Jovi at Croke Park

 

U2 at Croke Park

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Edited June 2, 2008 at 01:46 AM by dirrtydavid

[stevethefan]

Wow! I think you'd have a better view of the planets aligning than to see Celine from those seats!

 

But seriously, there's always a compromise that has to be made when doing these big tours with any big act or group. They obviously want as many people to be able to go to the concert(s) in each city which usually means a big venue which means a lot of the audience will be far away. Of course now most of these shows have the big screens to help out with the viewing, but you still want to be able to see the artist in person, not just on a tv screen.

[celinerific]

Are you aware of what you're saying?

You make it sound like it's made from flimsy light-bulb cardboard.

Edited June 2, 2008 at 03:04 AM by celinerific

[Celine684201]

I am a bit surprised to see such a harsh post on the CELINE forum...geeze u can't even post something that has been posted before...even if you've never seen the previous post...for one person does not have the time to search the net for a copied post but something like this remains...SOMETHING WISHING BAD FOR CELINE.....WOW

[Celine684201]

NOBODY NEEDS TO CALM DOWN...wishing Celine ill reviews or giving negative feedback on this forum should be probhitibed SIMPLE AS THAT...afterall repeated info or info saying that a show is being repeated is automatically thrown out...seeing this still on made me ashamed of someone calling themselves a fan then saying something like this not to mention the fact that the moderators left it up for casual visitors and those just taking a look to see...IF YOU DON'T LIKE CELINE DON'T GO SEE HER SHOW OR WASTE YOUR TIME GIVING THOSE WHO DO YOUR OPINION...SIMPLE AS THAT....and that is my opinion...Why do people waste their time and energy going to such lengths to tell someone they hate them...I just can't comprehend this sorry...

[A New Day Has Come]

I'm sorry, but you sound really, really silly (and I use this word not to be harsh). You pay the money to see/hear her sing, not to see a damn stage. For all I care, they could put her up on a chair, like her brothers used to do when she was a kid, and I wouldn't care less. I want to see/hear her sing, I don't give a damn about the stage. The stage is just a plus, it's not what I - and I think any real fan - pays for. Kylie needs a mindblowing stage, cause she can't sing if her life depended on it! There, you do pay to see the stage, cause there's nothing else.

 

I couldn't have said it better myself.