Celine Fan 77 Posted July 18, 2026 at 05:44 AM Posted July 18, 2026 at 05:44 AM It’s super weird that not only Céline, but also Karine Hannah and Rob Evan (from music group The Dream Engine) also recorded the song and both their versions remain officially unreleased. Quote Tournée Européenne in Paris (December 1, 2013) Céline Dion Live 2016 in Antwerp (June 20, 2016) Céline Dion Live 2017 in Birmingham (July 27, 2017) Céline Dion à Paris (September 12, 2026)
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 18, 2026 at 07:17 AM Posted July 18, 2026 at 07:17 AM So, the first one to record this was Céline Dion but due to business and publishing disputes rather than artistic concerns, it wasn't released officially. The next one who recorded this song is Meatloaf, reminds me of wanting to record "It's All Coming Back To Me Now", but Jim Steinman said it was a woman's song. But eventually around early 00's he recorded it. This is the only version of this song that was officially released. I wonder if it can be released officially, the version of Celine in future album release. Quote
comingback Posted July 18, 2026 at 08:16 AM Posted July 18, 2026 at 08:16 AM On 5/31/2008 at 10:21 PM, Javito said: So I think too!. I don't like this song. Just because its been written by the same authot as IACBTMN doesn't mean that its a good song Yes, I don't like it either. I love Celine, but her "screaming" in that song is horrible. It doesn't fit on LTAL anyway. 1 Quote
Taking Chances Posted July 18, 2026 at 09:51 PM Posted July 18, 2026 at 09:51 PM Quote "But songs by Jim Steinman, Diane Warren and Billy Steinberg — all of whom had hits on previous Dion albums but refused to give up a percentage of their publishing rights — were deemed by Dion and Angelil "not among the best 14 or 15 songs" This part of the text is interesting to me. Think about this, the writers of the three first tracks of Falling Into You, were not deemed to be the best out of 14-15 songs for Let's Talk About Love. That's pretty much insanity. Jim Steinman and Diane Warren wrote two of the biggest hits of Falling Into You, and Billy Steinberg wrote Falling Into You, which they used as the album title. I presume the Jim Steinman song that was considered for Let's Talk About Love was Is Nothing Sacred? That seems obvious, but do we know which songs was submitted by Diane Warren and Billy Steinberg? Quote
MaiconSC Posted July 18, 2026 at 10:00 PM Posted July 18, 2026 at 10:00 PM On 7/18/2026 at 6:51 PM, Taking Chances said: This part of the text is interesting to me. Think about this, the writers of the three first tracks of Falling Into You, were not deemed to be the best out of 14-15 songs for Let's Talk About Love. That's pretty much insanity. Jim Steinman and Diane Warren wrote two of the biggest hits of Falling Into You, and Billy Steinberg wrote Falling Into You, which they used as the album title. I presume the Jim Steinman song that was considered for Let's Talk About Love was Is Nothing Sacred? That seems obvious, but do we know which songs was submitted by Diane Warren and Billy Steinberg? Jim is indeed "Is nothing sacred"... Diane I believe is "Would I Know"... I think the unreleased "Run like a river" and "Love is alive" were recorded during LTAL sessions too... Reading this text, I'm inclined to believe it's true... but I don't think Celine was aware of the situation... I believe it was totally a René decision... more than once Celine told in interviews she just arrived to the studio for recording the songs, and René took care of all the business... Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 19, 2026 at 04:38 AM Posted July 19, 2026 at 04:38 AM (edited) On 7/18/2026 at 4:16 PM, comingback said: Yes, I don't like it either. I love Celine, but her "screaming" in that song is horrible. It doesn't fit on LTAL anyway. It’s called Belting. And I think it belongs to Falling Into You as the texture of her belts fits that album Edited July 19, 2026 at 04:39 AM by jpatdeleon09 Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 19, 2026 at 04:41 AM Posted July 19, 2026 at 04:41 AM (edited) If there were a lot of unreleased songs recorded during FIY & LTAL and for sure there’s a lot of belting and high notes she did those time. Still surprised that she can still do long tours. Wish they will release that in the future, it’s a waste of not releasing it as Celine work hard for those. Edited July 19, 2026 at 04:43 AM by jpatdeleon09 1 Quote
comingback Posted July 19, 2026 at 06:20 AM Posted July 19, 2026 at 06:20 AM (edited) On 7/19/2026 at 6:38 AM, jpatdeleon09 said: It’s called Belting. And I think it belongs to Falling Into You as the texture of her belts fits that album Sorry, but there is a different between belting and screaming and in INSA she is screaming. Edited July 19, 2026 at 06:28 AM by comingback Quote
jpatdeleon09 Posted July 19, 2026 at 06:49 AM Posted July 19, 2026 at 06:49 AM On 7/19/2026 at 2:20 PM, comingback said: Sorry, but there is a different between belting and screaming and in INSA she is screaming. Screaming is like the one she did in “What’s in my bag” that’s screaming. Her belts in INSA is belting with vibrarto 3 1 Quote
CelinesDIVO5 Posted July 19, 2026 at 02:15 PM Posted July 19, 2026 at 02:15 PM On 7/18/2026 at 6:00 PM, MaiconSC said: Jim is indeed "Is nothing sacred"... Diane I believe is "Would I Know"... I think the unreleased "Run like a river" and "Love is alive" were recorded during LTAL sessions too... Reading this text, I'm inclined to believe it's true... but I don't think Celine was aware of the situation... I believe it was totally a René decision... more than once Celine told in interviews she just arrived to the studio for recording the songs, and René took care of all the business... I believe LAL and RLAR were recorded in the ATW sessions. 2 Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL54qnRGM2gMatthew Charles - "Fix You" - Live at The Stonewall InnStonewall Sensation - Season 15Originally written and performed by Coldplay
Nmj Posted July 19, 2026 at 03:30 PM Posted July 19, 2026 at 03:30 PM On 7/19/2026 at 10:15 AM, CelinesDIVO5 said: I believe LAL and RLAR were recorded in the ATW sessions. Pretty sure “Would I Know” was too… also, “I know what love is” from “one heart” album was recorded for ATW… Seems like ATW was supposed to have more original songs before they decided to the hybrid greatest hit album and then retire for a bit. 1 Quote
Davey84 Posted July 19, 2026 at 03:55 PM Posted July 19, 2026 at 03:55 PM Love Is Alive was also recorded for ATW. 2 Quote http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/daveyh84/incognito198701_zpsaaootxh1.jpgRick, ik hou van jou voor altijd!A New Day... has come 28/29 April & 2/3 May 07Antwerpen 13 et 14 mai,Paris 24 et 25 mai, Amsterdam 2 juinet Arras 7 juillet Chances Taken!!!How Do You Keep The Music Playing? - Celine Opening Night March 15th, March 16th
jmiracle Posted July 19, 2026 at 03:57 PM Posted July 19, 2026 at 03:57 PM (edited) On 7/19/2026 at 5:30 PM, Nmj said: Pretty sure “Would I Know” was too… also, “I know what love is” from “one heart” album was recorded for ATW… Seems like ATW was supposed to have more original songs before they decided to the hybrid greatest hit album and then retire for a bit. in Billboard Magazine in 1999, Sony told that at the begining of the process, ATW was supposed to have 3 original songs, then 5, and then 7 because they received too many good songs. It is also said that 9 original songs were recorded : I guess it's the 7 we know + Would I Know + Love is Alive. Did we ever get confirmation that Run Like River actually existed ? Edited July 19, 2026 at 04:07 PM by jmiracle Quote
emi&celine Posted July 19, 2026 at 04:21 PM Posted July 19, 2026 at 04:21 PM I’d never heard or read about a song called « Run Like a River » before today 🫣 Can’t find a video not a snippet of Céline singing that song. Quote
comingback Posted July 19, 2026 at 04:31 PM Posted July 19, 2026 at 04:31 PM (edited) We discussed that before. Love Is Alive was recorded by Anastacia. Run Like A River is maybe the Tina Arena song (written by D. Warren). Edited July 19, 2026 at 04:34 PM by comingback Quote
Céline RO Posted July 20, 2026 at 10:49 AM Posted July 20, 2026 at 10:49 AM On 7/19/2026 at 12:51 AM, Taking Chances said: That seems obvious, but do we know which songs was submitted by Diane Warren On 7/19/2026 at 1:00 AM, MaiconSC said: Diane I believe is "Would I Know"... I Don’t Wanna Miss a Thing? Quote The best is yet to come...
emi&celine Posted July 20, 2026 at 11:04 AM Posted July 20, 2026 at 11:04 AM Imagine the LTAL album with « Is Nothing Sacred Anymore » and « I Don’t Want To Miss a Thing » on it? 🫣🔥🔥🔥 Quote
comingback Posted July 20, 2026 at 11:16 AM Posted July 20, 2026 at 11:16 AM (edited) On 7/20/2026 at 1:04 PM, emi&celine said: Imagine the LTAL album with « Is Nothing Sacred Anymore » and « I Don’t Want To Miss a Thing » on it? 🫣🔥🔥🔥 LTAL already had a movie song. Do you remember MHWGO/TITANIC and IDWTMAT fits Aerosmith better. I'm glad that INSA isn't on LTAL. Edited July 20, 2026 at 11:26 AM by comingback Quote
comingback Posted July 20, 2026 at 11:20 AM Posted July 20, 2026 at 11:20 AM Would I know was written by D. Warren. I think Celine's version is unfished/a demo. here is C. Church's version Quote
DCCeline Posted July 20, 2026 at 11:30 AM Posted July 20, 2026 at 11:30 AM Let's talk about love definitely needed Is nothing sacred anymore. The two biggest hits from this album aren't even from the album because ones from Titanic and the others from 1995. with the great 10/10 INSA and its incredible BELTING it would have made LTAL almost as goood as FIY Quote
emi&celine Posted July 20, 2026 at 12:50 PM Posted July 20, 2026 at 12:50 PM On 7/20/2026 at 1:16 PM, comingback said: LTAL already had a movie song. Do you remember MHWGO/TITANIC and IDWTMAT fits Aerosmith better. I'm glad that INSA isn't on LTAL. Yes I remember MHWGO being the theme song from Titanic. Thank you. Regarding IDWTMAT I agree to say Aerosmith made an amazing version of it. From a quality point of view and without taking into account the fact that the song was used for another succesful movie, I think it might have been a nice addition on Céline’s own album. Quote
jmiracle Posted July 20, 2026 at 12:55 PM Posted July 20, 2026 at 12:55 PM (edited) I Don’t Wanna Miss A Thing was submitted to Céline in 1998. Céline didn’t want to do another movie theme and she didn’t have any album coming out except These Are Special Times. Céline and René thought that it was not a song that could be included in a holiday album. Edited July 20, 2026 at 12:56 PM by jmiracle Quote
comingback Posted July 20, 2026 at 01:17 PM Posted July 20, 2026 at 01:17 PM (edited) On 7/20/2026 at 2:50 PM, emi&celine said: Yes I remember MHWGO being the theme song from Titanic. Thank you. Regarding IDWTMAT I agree to say Aerosmith made an amazing version of it. From a quality point of view and without taking into account the fact that the song was used for another succesful movie, I think it might have been a nice addition on Céline’s own album. I think it was in the MTV Diary from 1999/2000, where she said that she doesn't want to record another big blockbuster movie song ("another Titanic song"). That's why she didn't record There You'll Be. Edited July 20, 2026 at 01:18 PM by comingback Quote
Nmj Posted July 20, 2026 at 05:36 PM Posted July 20, 2026 at 05:36 PM (edited) On 7/20/2026 at 8:55 AM, jmiracle said: I Don’t Wanna Miss A Thing was submitted to Céline in 1998. Céline didn’t want to do another movie theme and she didn’t have any album coming out except These Are Special Times. Céline and René thought that it was not a song that could be included in a holiday album. I was under the impression that she received “I Don’t Wanna Miss A Thing” at the same time as “The Reason”… Celine was offered that and Aerosmith was offered “The Reason” and they swapped. If that’s the case it could’ve ended up on the LTAL album. Edited July 20, 2026 at 05:37 PM by Nmj Quote
mirage Posted July 20, 2026 at 06:09 PM Posted July 20, 2026 at 06:09 PM On 7/19/2026 at 5:57 PM, jmiracle said: in Billboard Magazine in 1999, Sony told that at the begining of the process, ATW was supposed to have 3 original songs, then 5, and then 7 because they received too many good songs. It is also said that 9 original songs were recorded : I guess it's the 7 we know + Would I Know + Love is Alive. Did we ever get confirmation that Run Like River actually existed ? Lovely to read her comments on the new songs. Wish we could get that more often. Wonder what her career would have looked like of they went more on the TTWII style. Quote
comingback Posted July 20, 2026 at 07:01 PM Posted July 20, 2026 at 07:01 PM On 7/20/2026 at 7:36 PM, Nmj said: I was under the impression that she received “I Don’t Wanna Miss A Thing” at the same time as “The Reason”… Celine was offered that and Aerosmith was offered “The Reason” and they swapped. If that’s the case it could’ve ended up on the LTAL album. Aerosmith and Celine swapped the songs? I don't think so. But Toni Braxton and Celine swapped the songs (Unbreak My Heart, Because You Loved Me). Quote
Nmj Posted July 20, 2026 at 07:04 PM Posted July 20, 2026 at 07:04 PM On 7/20/2026 at 3:01 PM, comingback said: Aerosmith and Celine swapped the songs? I don't think so. But Toni Braxton and Celine swapped the songs (Unbreak My Heart, Because You Loved Me). Both are true… it happened twice. Quote
comingback Posted July 20, 2026 at 07:23 PM Posted July 20, 2026 at 07:23 PM (edited) On 7/20/2026 at 9:04 PM, Nmj said: Both are true… it happened twice. No, it can't be. D. Warren said that she had the idea for the lyrics for IDWTMAT during the Walters/Streisand interview in Mid November 1997 and LTAL was released in Mid November 1997. Edited July 20, 2026 at 07:26 PM by comingback Quote
Nmj Posted July 20, 2026 at 07:35 PM Posted July 20, 2026 at 07:35 PM On 7/20/2026 at 3:23 PM, comingback said: No, it can't be. D. Warren said that she had the idea for the lyrics for IDWTMAT during the Walters/Streisand interview in Mid November 1997 and LTAL was released in Mid November 1997. I’m not sure, I could be wrong but Carole King did say that “The Reason” was intended for Aerosmith and they turned it down and it ended up with Celine. IDWTMAT was intended for Celine first and ended up with Aerosmith… that’s definitely a fact… but maybe they never swapped, maybe Celine could’ve done both and was intended to do both songs and it just worked out that way. Another fun fact is that “Love Is All We Need” from one heart album was actually intended for Britney Spears but ended up with Celine. I truly think the one that truly got away from Celine was “There You’ll Be” from pearl habor… that to me was the biggest miss… Faith Hill ended up with the song but Celine would’ve took that song beyond had it been recorded by her and produced by David Foster..: I think it could’ve been her biggest English song after MHWGO. Quote
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