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scielle, on 29 June 2024 - 11:05 AM, said:

They were there with her at the draft last night (per John K's LVRJ article).
(Btw I'm a little surprised Celine didn't mind that scene staying in… her kids being served milkshakes on a silver platter by a butler ��)

Nmj, on 28 June 2024 - 07:12 PM, said:

Speaking of the twins, I wonder how they feel that RC always gets to accompany Celine to these public events. If they rather not or simply get told to stay back because they are so young.

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they were all there with her

look how the twins are growing...

[ordinary fan]

Jeanette, on 29 June 2024 - 02:59 AM, said:

I have to wonder if all the health issues she supposedly had/developed over the years, mentioned once or twice but never again were all just a manifestation of her SPS.  I'm referring to Asthma (issues breathing could again be more about muscle control), the eye disease she said she had (SPS can affect sight due to issues with the eye muscles), the inner ear issue, the back issue a few years back (I would say that was a definite) and the jaw coming out of alignment regularly during the Taking Chances tour (was this actually caused by spasms so severe).


I do believe when she says this has been ongoing for 17 years though that it's more likely to have been spasms and smaller issues here and there that she can now pinpoint as early onset of the disease. I definitely don't believe she was over medicating and struggling throughout every other show for that length of time.

Yeah I believe the over medicating started in early 2019, when she looked not as healthy as before because all throughout 2018 she looked fine. But in 2019 the weightloss and her looking somewhat emaciated physically.

[Nmj]

scielle, on 29 June 2024 - 11:05 AM, said:

They were there with her at the draft last night (per John K’s LVRJ article).
(Btw I’m a little surprised Celine didn’t mind that scene staying in… her kids being served milkshakes on a silver platter by a butler 🫢)

I think she probably only okay with it after we saw the scene of Celine doing things around the house when Mr Butler had covid.

Also, no worse than a pregnant Celine complaining she doesn’t have a right part of shoes to wear as she goes though thousands of them in the closet LOL. and the end of the day she’s not as relatable as she likes to think and that’s normal.

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[Nmj]

Delete.

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Nmj, on 29 June 2024 - 12:17 PM, said:

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Does it mean that the Love Again movie can be streamed on the Prime Video platform?

[dawn]

Critiaslux, on 29 June 2024 - 03:12 PM, said:

Does it mean that the Love Again movie can be streamed on the Prime Video platform?

Love Again has been on Prime Video for a few months to rent or buy it but not free.

Edited by dawn, 29 June 2024 - 03:21 PM.

[Critiaslux]

dawn, on 29 June 2024 - 03:20 PM, said:

Love Again has been on Prime Video for a few months to rent or buy it but not free.

Thanks.
So they try to cross sell.
Good move from Amazon.

[RosieBarron]

scielle, on 29 June 2024 - 11:05 AM, said:

They were there with her at the draft last night (per John K’s LVRJ article).
(Btw I’m a little surprised Celine didn’t mind that scene staying in… her kids being served milkshakes on a silver platter by a butler 🫢)

I suppose the crucial thing is that Nelson the effectively shook his hand and thanked him. Do seem like very polite kids which maybe shouldn't be a surprise given who their parents are.

[Leite]

RosieBarron, on 29 June 2024 - 03:58 PM, said:

I suppose the crucial thing is that Nelson the effectively shook his hand and thanked him. Do seem like very polite kids which maybe shouldn't be a surprise given who their parents are.

What I love about this scene is that as soon as Mr butler-Mr Barington I believe- gives Nelson the milkshake Celine immediately says in French'What do we say Nelson?'
She is such a mom, I love that.

Edited by Leite, 29 June 2024 - 05:04 PM.

[Jeanette]

ordinary fan, on 29 June 2024 - 01:05 PM, said:

Yeah I believe the over medicating started in early 2019, when she looked not as healthy as before because all throughout 2018 she looked fine. But in 2019 the weightloss and her looking somewhat emaciated physically.

I would’ve thought that was from the ballet, no?  When she first took that up, she lost loads of weight then turned her body into muscle, which I assumed was just the process of doing a lot of physical training.

It blows my mind that she could do the ballet and be as flexible on stage as she always was, given what we now know.

[scielle]

Jeanette, on 29 June 2024 - 05:18 PM, said:

It blows my mind that she could do the ballet and be as flexible on stage as she always was, given what we now know.

Yeah, I can’t quite reconcile that with what we now know of the illness.
But I don’t think the weight loss was associated with the dancing. I believe it’s an SPS symptom. Tara Zier said when she got really hit with SPS she lost something like [30lbs in a couple weeks]. (Bracketed because I don’t quite remember what the number and timeframe were, but point is it was a lot, very suddenly.)

[Jeanette]

The song “In Some Small Way” has really been on my mind a lot lately, the lyrics, especially in that first verve, really resonate with the whole “Apple Tree” analogy 🌳

There's a tree
Standing there
In such an ordinary way
But as I look around
Everything keeps changing
There's a leaf
On that tree
And it floats into a stream
Like everything
It gets carried away
To the sea

I’ve always loved this song, a rarer gem if you will, so much so that I’ve spoken in the past with my family about playing it at my funeral, as to me it’s about leaving a lasting legacy through the way we touch people’s lives while we’re here.  It’s taken on a whole new meaning for me now though… 😢

[ewh12]

scielle, on 29 June 2024 - 05:22 PM, said:

Yeah, I can’t quite reconcile that with what we now know of the illness.
But I don’t think the weight loss was associated with the dancing. I believe it’s an SPS symptom. Tara Zier said when she got really hit with SPS she lost something like [30lbs in a couple weeks]. (Bracketed because I don’t quite remember what the number and timeframe were, but point is it was a lot, very suddenly.)

I think the weight loss has two periods judging from pictures.

Period 1: the sudden weight loss where at times she looked skeletal. Maybe the sudden physical activity exerted SPS symptoms.  I mean, if your working the muscles, your adding extra stress and damage in order to grow muscle and maybe with SPS, the muscle tissue was not repairing itself properly and needed extra calories to counter act the condition as well.

It was at this time the tabloids and social media was saying she was too thin.

Period 2: I think at some point, she might have gotten feedback, possibly changed her diet a bit maybe by adding more protein and calories because this was the time she started getting more muscley, especially when you saw her on tour with that main, red dress.

However with the added strain, maybe SPS symptoms got more active, and she needed more medication to perform at shows.

I can’t verify the science in this, but it my mind, this could be plausible.

[scielle]

Here’s one for the tennis fans -

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scielle, on 29 June 2024 - 11:11 AM, said:

I really hope so! Dogs are amazing.
My dad had some health issues recently and getting a puppy was such a godsend. It's truly amazing how much it helped him, both mentally and physically.

Would be good for the twins, too.

She looks wonderful in her NHL appearance. I even thought, 'Célne? Repeating an outfit? (lgasp)!' lol as her outfit reminds me of

Spoiler

All is right in Célineverse, different one.

It make me laugh how many times I've come across the frequent reaction to her and RC's appearances going something like: "Is that Céline's new boyfriend?? Seems awfully young. That's her son?? He's 23 years old?? He looks way older than that... that's the little kid who once had the really long hair?? OMG I feel old."

[kaye2023]

I'm not surprised her team made provisions for a PT/recovery room if she needs to be in a specific place for repeat visits (to record). Surely they don't expect her to recover on the studio floor or couch, should she have an unexpected episode lasting seconds, minutes or hours. Having an emergency space for her would be sensible, if not a requirement. On other days, if she has a very minor episode, a private PT space to maybe work the kinks out and continue on with the recording session. On the day Irene's team was there, might as well shoot her routine and PT demo in one location. Why transport everyone to another location for an hour or two of shooting.

With the possibility she can have an episode involving the wrong muscles (chest/neck) and for an unknown or extended amount of time that she can't breathe and die,  I don't think any ethical, humane, and rational person on her team would allow a spasm attack to unfold or induce one for a chance to be captured on film. That would be psychopathic.  

ryba, on 29 June 2024 - 09:59 AM, said:

So I watched the documentary three times already and I noticed something: and the very end when she records love again and leaves the studio to greet her physical therapist, they enter another room right next to the studio to do physical therapy. This is when she suffers from an attack.

Now my question is: did they already know that she would probably suffer from an attack because she would be overstimulated by a long recording session, so they decided to do physical therapy right after knowing that a crisis would occur and they would have to chance to film it for the documentary?

What are your thoughts on this? Because in my opinion, it is quite strange that they rented a place to record new music and at the same time do physical therapy right next to the studio in the same place. She could've done that at home as usual. Also, the conversation after the crisis when Celine is already OK seems a little bit prepared, don't you think?

[Céline RO]

Leite said:

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What I love about this scene is that as soon as Mr butler-Mr Barington I believe- gives Nelson the milkshake Celine immediately says in French'What do we say Nelson?'
She is such a mom, I love that.

Hm I don’t love that. Maybe Nelson would’ve thanked him even without Céline’s prompting. It wasn’t necessary for her to make it look like her 11-12 year old son needed her to tell him to be polite. It would’ve bothered me if I were him and they left that in the doc.

Edited by Céline RO, 30 June 2024 - 02:21 AM.

[Céline RO]

Jeanette, on 29 June 2024 - 05:18 PM, said:

It blows my mind that she could do the ballet and be as flexible on stage as she always was, given what we now know.

And the physical stuff she does during her therapy sessions that we see in the doc is also incredible. It requires so much strength, flexibility and balance. I for example, a perfectly fit man decades her junior, can’t do all of that, or at least not with as much ease as 56-year-old Céline with SPS. Unbelievable.

[kaye2023]

Nmj, on 29 June 2024 - 01:07 PM, said:

I think she probably only okay with it after we saw the scene of Celine doing things around the house when Mr Butler had covid.

Also, no worse than a pregnant Celine complaining she doesn't have a right part of shoes to wear as she goes though thousands of them in the closet LOL. and the end of the day she's not as relatable as she likes to think and that's normal.

lolll ^

It also makes me laugh to think of that wistful reflection she shared (in the Oprah tour iirc?) that she often talked with her mother about how to keep RC grounded despite all the lavish things provided to him, and it's not like she can make him sleep in the drawer or wear tatty clothes like she/her siblings did... fast-forward to her big-bodied teens being waited on hand and foot by a butler with milkshakes lolll

Céline RO, on 30 June 2024 - 02:20 AM, said:

Hm I don’t love that. Maybe Nelson would’ve thanked him even without Céline’s prompting. It wasn’t necessary for her to make it look like her 11-12 year old son needed her to tell him to be polite. It would’ve bothered me if I were him and they left that in the doc.

I have a feeling he wouldn't have as per habit lol and Céline knew and would have been mortified to have that on record like any mom would have been lolll I also think that's a cute mama bear moment, not a serious bad look on the Nelson/kids, kids being 12yo kids. Now if she did that to RC... ohno... lmao  

Jeanette, on 29 June 2024 - 05:18 PM, said:

It blows my mind that she could do the ballet and be as flexible on stage as she always was, given what we now know.

Well, being double-jointed helps lol but yeah, she's always been athletically impressive, and, most of all, the ENERGY. Wow.

[Ronny83]

Critiaslux, on 29 June 2024 - 03:12 PM, said:

Does it mean that the Love Again movie can be streamed on the Prime Video platform?

It's on Prime Video in Italy, for free.

[tshlw]

Celebs React To 'I Am Celine Dion' Documentary

[scielle]

Well, 5 days in, still holding strong: https://flixpatrol.com/top10/
Still top movie on Amazon and one of the top streaming properties across platforms.
Still 100% on Rotten Tomatoes (and that from just 30 reviews, there's a bunch more positive ones not yet aggregated). 76 rating (100% positive reviews) on Metacritic, 8.2 on IMDB. On IG alone, 23mln views on the shoe clip.

She took a risk, and there's a cost to a woman in her 50s putting it all out there like this, especially in the pop music world so focused on youth and on meticulously managing an image. And it paid off. So good for her to have a win with this project, especially one that's clearly the most personal thing she ever released.

[LukeD]

^ On top of this, Celine enjoyed her all-time streaming peak on Spotify (outside the holiday season) last Friday (28/06/24)!

• Set My Heart On Fire - 297k
  
• My Heart Will Go On - 294k
  
• Because You Loved Me - 290k
  
• The Power Of Love - 234k
  
• It's All Coming Back To Me Now - 233k
  
• I'm Alive - 204k
  
• That's The Way It Is - 161k
  
• All By Myself - 152k
  
• Pour Que Tu M'aimes Encore - 101k
  
• Beauty And The Beast - 85k
  
• J'irai Ou Tu Iras - 79k
  
• Immortality - 70k
  
• A New Day Has Come - 70k
  
• Ashes - 67k
  
• I Drove All Night - 61k
  
• To Love You More - 58k
  
• I Love You - 48k
  
• Think Twice - 46k
  
• Sous Le Vent - 40k
  
• Love Again - 38k

Highlighted in bold are the songs that reached an all-time peak on that day. Importantly, she had 6 songs at 200k+.

Other songs that reached an all-time peak include:

• Tell Him 34k
  
• I Surrender 32k
  
• Where Does My Heart Beat Now 31k
  
• River Deep-Mountain High - 23k
  
• If You Asked Me To - 22k
  
• Loved Me Back To Life - 21k
  
• If That's What It Takes - 21k
  
• The Reason - 18k
  
• When I Need You - 16k
  
• Have You Ever Been In Love - 13k
  
• Love Doesn't Ask Why - 10k

All it took was to share her story through this documentary - the critical and commercial response prove she is still a force to be reckoned with. Hopefully, this will result in a consistent marketing plan and promotion of upcoming releases.

Source: @celinedionIcon on X

Edited by LukeD, 30 June 2024 - 07:50 AM.

[scielle]

Here's something I'm still struggling to understand: how was she able to perform at such a high level, up to spring 2020, if she was just masking symptoms with high doses of Valium & other (presumably inappropriate for the condition) meds? Physically, how was she able to put on such energetic shows? Even if they temporarily relieved her spasms and pain, wouldn't those dosages drain her and knock her out?

And if she was able to do it then, with all those wrong meds in her system, wouldn't she be in better position to do it now that she's under a correct treatment plan for her illness?

That, plus how is she able to handle crowds, lights, sounds? Judging by commentary from other SPS patients, this is what they're most perplexed by, because most are triggered by these things and could never go to a concert or sporting event. So it seems they're all wondering what it is she's doing.

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This makes me sooooo happy!

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[ryba]

scielle said:

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Here's something I'm still struggling to understand: how was she able to perform at such a high level, up to spring 2020, if she was just masking symptoms with high doses of Valium & other (presumably inappropriate for the condition) meds? Physically, how was she able to put on such energetic shows? Even if they temporarily relieved her spasms and pain, wouldn't those dosages drain her and knock her out?

And if she was able to do it then, with all those wrong meds in her system, wouldn't she be in better position to do it now that she's under a correct treatment plan for her illness?

That, plus how is she able to handle crowds, lights, sounds? Judging by commentary from other SPS patients, this is what they're most perplexed by, because most are triggered by these things and could never go to a concert or sporting event. So it seems they're all wondering what it is she's doing.

it looks like she suffered from heavy symptoms and serious crisis episodes after she tried to come off of valium and other dangerous meds, which accelerated the illness by 2 years as she said. So maybe this is when it has gotten really bad and dangerous

Edited by ryba, 30 June 2024 - 08:07 AM.

[CelineDionFreak]

scielle, on 30 June 2024 - 07:58 AM, said:

Here's something I'm still struggling to understand: how was she able to perform at such a high level, up to spring 2020, if she was just masking symptoms with high doses of Valium & other (presumably inappropriate for the condition) meds? Physically, how was she able to put on such energetic shows? Even if they temporarily relieved her spasms and pain, wouldn't those dosages drain her and knock her out?

And if she was able to do it then, with all those wrong meds in her system, wouldn't she be in better position to do it now that she's under a correct treatment plan for her illness?

That, plus how is she able to handle crowds, lights, sounds? Judging by commentary from other SPS patients, this is what they're most perplexed by, because most are triggered by these things and could never go to a concert or sporting event. So it seems they're all wondering what it is she's doing.

My grandma has a neurological syndrome herself…. And to be honest, I think the reason Celine was able to go full throttle was the Valium, but also like my grandma doesn’t stop so she keeps herself moving little by little. Like Celine said, my grandma is also wobbly if she doesn’t do much all day. Sure it was the Valium and god knows what else she was taking, but we all know Celine is a champion of pushing through.

Weaning off the Valium gave her no defense against what we now know as SPS. I think she’s doing much better than she was, even in 2020, but part of me thinks she’s innately worried to get back out on stage. So I think she’s just taking it slowly and getting out little by little to get her brain and nervous system back into the right mindset. She did so well at the premiere and she was amazing walking right through the sphere in her stilettos! Sure, it will be a reduced capacity of a show, but I have no doubt she will be back on stage sooner rather then later.

[jpatdeleon09]

I wonder how much is Mr. Barrington’s salary as a butler to the Dion’s family?

[Dancing_Queen]

Mr. Barrington is relatively new, no? I seem to remember her last butler was the one who brought her into contact with Pepe (we saw him a couple of times in Paris in 2017). Can't remember his name though.