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[LukeD]

smw, on 18 March 2023 - 12:13 PM, said:

So strange… I wonder why?

Because she is viewed as an AC albums/tours artist rather than a mainstream singles artist, and because her team did a lousy job promoting her social media. Her fan base is also a bit older so they might not use Spotify as much as they use FB and YT. Shame really because she has such a strong catalogue.

Another thing IMO is that her English discography lacked a clear direction after ANDHC and this really showed during the LMBTL era when there were delays, serious indecisiveness regarding the content and what audience they were aiming at, questionable vocals, and a final mixed bag of an album that left the impression of an incomplete project.

Edited by LukeD, 19 March 2023 - 02:58 AM.

[comingback]

LukeD, on 19 March 2023 - 02:53 AM, said:

Because she is viewed as an AC albums/tours artist rather than a mainstream singles artist, and because her team did a lousy job promoting her social media. Her fan base is also a bit older so they might not use Spotify as much as they use FB and YT. Shame really because she has such a strong catalogue.

Another thing IMO is that her English discography lacked a clear direction after ANDHC and this really showed during the LMBTL era when there were delays, serious indecisiveness regarding the content and what audience they were aiming at, questionable vocals, and a final mixed bag of an album that left the impression of an incomplete project.

Can you imagine to be a new fan of Celine: Why is the MHWGO video not on her YT channel? Why didn't they release a DVD from the FIY and LTAL Tour (english)? etc. It's so embarrassing. She needs a better team.

Edited by comingback, 19 March 2023 - 04:03 AM.

[Davey84]

Well another thing I am very curious about, is how those "artist radio's" work. For instance when I play the Falling Into You album and the album is over, the playlist based on that album takes over. It consists of songs from that artist but also similar artists and songs from that genre (and your play history). So with FIY that playlist could be filled with Cher, Faith Hill, Shania, Twain, Lara Fabian, Mariah and Whitney.

BUT more than once, when I played a Lara Fabian album for instance, in that playlist I get singers like Mariah, Whitney, but also Maurane, Isabelle Boulay etc. HOWEVER Céline isn't in it. And I really wonder why that is?! I mean Céline and Lara are very similar, so why isn't Céline part of Lara's automatic playlist??

Another example is with the blend mix by Spotify with my husband. I listen to Céline a lot on Spotify, but in these blend playlists she is hardly ever present! And if she is, it would be Superwoman or Sous Le Vent, songs she is a guest artist....

Do others experience this too?

It's like Céline is even ignored by Spotify! Could this also have to do with record companies "buying" these automatic streams for certain artists? If Céline isn't featured much in automatic playlists, but Madonna, Mariah etc. are, then of course their monthly listeners are bigger too.

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[comingback]

Davey84, on 19 March 2023 - 04:32 AM, said:

Well another thing I am very curious about, is how those "artist radio's" work. For instance when I play the Falling Into You album and the album is over, the playlist based on that album takes over. It consists of songs from that artist but also similar artists and songs from that genre (and your play history). So with FIY that playlist could be filled with Cher, Faith Hill, Shania, Twain, Lara Fabian, Mariah and Whitney.

BUT more than once, when I played a Lara Fabian album for instance, in that playlist I get singers like Mariah, Whitney, but also Maurane, Isabelle Boulay etc. HOWEVER Céline isn't in it. And I really wonder why that is?! I mean Céline and Lara are very similar, so why isn't Céline part of Lara's automatic playlist??

Another example is with the blend mix by Spotify with my husband. I listen to Céline a lot on Spotify, but in these blend playlists she is hardly ever present! And if she is, it would be Superwoman or Sous Le Vent, songs she is a guest artist....

Do others experience this too?

It's like Céline is even ignored by Spotify! Could this also have to do with record companies "buying" these automatic streams for certain artists? If Céline isn't featured much in automatic playlists, but Madonna, Mariah etc. are, then of course their monthly listeners are bigger too.

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Didn't Sony buy radioairplay for Mariah in the 90s? I think, it's the same with Spotify nowadays.

Edited by comingback, 19 March 2023 - 04:45 AM.

[LukeD]

Davey84, on 19 March 2023 - 04:32 AM, said:

Well another thing I am very curious about, is how those "artist radio's" work. For instance when I play the Falling Into You album and the album is over, the playlist based on that album takes over. It consists of songs from that artist but also similar artists and songs from that genre (and your play history). So with FIY that playlist could be filled with Cher, Faith Hill, Shania, Twain, Lara Fabian, Mariah and Whitney.

BUT more than once, when I played a Lara Fabian album for instance, in that playlist I get singers like Mariah, Whitney, but also Maurane, Isabelle Boulay etc. HOWEVER Céline isn't in it. And I really wonder why that is?! I mean Céline and Lara are very similar, so why isn't Céline part of Lara's automatic playlist??

Another example is with the blend mix by Spotify with my husband. I listen to Céline a lot on Spotify, but in these blend playlists she is hardly ever present! And if she is, it would be Superwoman or Sous Le Vent, songs she is a guest artist....

Do others experience this too?

It's like Céline is even ignored by Spotify! Could this also have to do with record companies "buying" these automatic streams for certain artists? If Céline isn't featured much in automatic playlists, but Madonna, Mariah etc. are, then of course their monthly listeners are bigger too.

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I have noticed this as well. All Celine needs is some targeted, consistent promo and people will be buying/streaming her stuff again, no doubt.

[LukeD]

comingback, on 19 March 2023 - 04:01 AM, said:

Can you imagine to be a new fan of Celine: Why is the MHWGO video not on her YT channel? Why didn't they release a DVD from the FIY and LTAL Tour (english)? etc. It's so embarrassing. She needs a better team.

I hear you!

[LukeD]

I read on Wikipedia that PQTME has sold an estimated 2.1m copies in Canada and another 2.1m copies in France. Guinness World Record is cited as a source.

Can someone confirm whether this is true?

[blacktooth]

LukeD, on 24 March 2023 - 11:04 PM, said:

I read on Wikipedia that PQTME has sold an estimated 2.1m copies in Canada and another 2.1m copies in France. Guinness World Record is cited as a source.

Can someone confirm whether this is true?

Outdated sources i think, even the fact that the album itself has sold over 17M copies worldwide a year ago according to a French Television show and still Wikipedia stating that the album has sold 10M lol

[rodrigofreitas]

blacktooth, on 27 March 2023 - 08:32 AM, said:

Outdated sources i think, even the fact that the album itself has sold over 17M copies worldwide a year ago according to a French Television show and still Wikipedia stating that the album has sold 10M lol

I My Ginnes Book 1999, album Deux sold over more than 9 million.
In Céline Dion site, sold over 10 million
On French Television last year, more than 17 million

[LukeD]

#500 on Spotify Top Artists 😭 This sucks! I am convinced that 90% of members here do not even listen to her on Spotify.

[smw]

LukeD, on 27 March 2023 - 03:26 PM, said:

#500 on Spotify Top Artists 😭 This sucks! I am convinced that 90% of members here do not even listen to her on Spotify.

I listen to her on Amazon Music. Does that count for something?

Hopefully Sony / her team will get her looped into some playlists. And we’ll see a spike once Love Again comes out.

Edited by smw, 27 March 2023 - 04:38 PM.

[mebe]

LukeD, on 27 March 2023 - 03:26 PM, said:

#500 on Spotify Top Artists � This sucks! I am convinced that 90% of members here do not even listen to her on Spotify.

I listen to her on YouTube Music!

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[Állex Sodi]

LukeD, on 27 March 2023 - 03:26 PM, said:

#500 on Spotify Top Artists 😭 This sucks! I am convinced that 90% of members here do not even listen to her on Spotify.

I listen through Spotify. I was thinking about it and Spotify biggest markets are Europe, North America and Latin America, in that order, with the latest two being very close in numbers. All other regions of the world combined only comes close to Latin America numbers.

That being said, Celine is big on Europe and North America, but she seems very weak in Latin America, which seems understandable cause she never care much about us in here. Wasn’t a market they target for her. Celine focus was on Asia, Africa and Australia.

Problem is, Latin America is the place to be specially if you are an older artist, their ageism is not as strong as in Europe or US. Prove of that is Shakira, who begins her career in the early 90 and this year alone was twice on top of the most listening songs on Spotify in the whole world, achieving billions of streams, today she is the #5 Spotify artist, with more than 80 million monthly listeners. I highly doubt it Shakira is a bigger name on US than Celine, maybe in Europe they’re equals.

In my guess, It’s lack of Latin America’s support that it’s making difference on Celine’s streaming numbers on that platform.

[CourageCeline]

smw, on 27 March 2023 - 04:20 PM, said:

I listen to her on Amazon Music. Does that count for something?

Hopefully Sony / her team will get her looped into some playlists. And we’ll see a spike once Love Again comes out.

Thats the problem, Céline's fans are very diverse in terms of streaming platforms, they don't use common Spotify or something. Which is not a big problem, cuz her numbers of Spotify is okay-ish

[nomys]

I was thinking. During this period without anything new, could Sony release a Duos collection?

Name : Celine Dion The Duos

Track list :
Cd 1 French
1 j irais ou tu iras feat JJG
2.toi et moi feat Charles Aznavour
3.L amour peut prendre froid feat J.Hallyday
4.Sous le vent feat Garou
5.y a pas de mots feat m.dupre
6.tout près du bonheur feat m.dupre
7.hymne feat Fred Pellerin
8.une chance qu'on s a feat jP F
9.tant de temps feat H Salvador
10.voler feat M Sardou
11.si dieu existe feat Claude dubois

Cd2 : english
1.The Prayer feat Andrea Bocelli
2.Tell Him feat B Streisand
3.incredible feat NeYo
4.i believe in you feat Il divo
5.overjoyed feat Stevie Wonder
6.it s hard to Say Goodbye feat Paul Anka
6.i hate u then i love you feat Pavarotti
7.beauty and the Beast feat Peabo Bryson
8.you and me feat Aznavour
9.immortality feat the BeeGees
10.when i fall in love feat Clive Griffin
11.acadian driftwood feat Zachary richard
12.all the way feat FS


Cd 3 bonus live :
1.Apprends-moi Live 2016
2.l envie Live 500 choristes
3. Sous le vent live 2002
4. Beauty and the Beast with Barnev Live 2017
5. J irai où tu iras live 1999 stade de France
6. The Prayer live 2010
7. I hate you then i love u live 1998
8. You re the voice live 2018
9.you shook me all night long live 2002
10.if i Can Dream live 2007
11.tout près du bonheur live 2007
12.quand on n'a que l'amour feat Maurane
13. Là-bas feat JJG
14.Caruso feat F Pagny
15.qui a le droit feat P Bruel
16.Tue moi feat Dan bigras
17. Un peu plus haut feat G Reno et JP Ferland


No I m your angel

And a little bonus ❤️🙏

I juste need a New release ...

Edited by nomys, 28 March 2023 - 03:35 AM.

[Dreamy]

I listen her music on youtube and cd's. I had Spotify a couple of years ago. I was looking for Wicked Game song and I have listened this song only twice. .. Since then I don't know what was wrong that It doesn't work well, I couldn't listen the song anymore. I made a list but... Nothing.
I don't know if just happened because I had free account. Of course that I would like to listen to her on spotify to support her music and to keep increasing her numbers.
Anyway I hope they upload TYLAM music video too as they did with the amazing MHWGO days ago

Edited by Dreamy, 28 March 2023 - 03:56 AM.

[LukeD]

Állex Sodi, on 28 March 2023 - 12:33 AM, said:

I listen through Spotify. I was thinking about it and Spotify biggest markets are Europe, North America and Latin America, in that order, with the latest two being very close in numbers. All other regions of the world combined only comes close to Latin America numbers.

That being said, Celine is big on Europe and North America, but she seems very weak in Latin America, which seems understandable cause she never care much about us in here. Wasn’t a market they target for her. Celine focus was on Asia, Africa and Australia.

Problem is, Latin America is the place to be specially if you are an older artist, their ageism is not as strong as in Europe or US. Prove of that is Shakira, who begins her career in the early 90 and this year alone was twice on top of the most listening songs on Spotify in the whole world, achieving billions of streams, today she is the #5 Spotify artist, with more than 80 million monthly listeners. I highly doubt it Shakira is a bigger name on US than Celine, maybe in Europe they’re equals.

In my guess, It’s lack of Latin America’s support that it’s making difference on Celine’s streaming numbers on that platform.

I agree. Thing is sice Spotify is so big in Europe I would expect the best selling female singer of Europe to do better on that platform! 😆 Especially when both her English and French material are relevant to the market.

[rodrigofreitas]

LukeD, on 27 March 2023 - 03:26 PM, said:

#500 on Spotify Top Artists �� This sucks! I am convinced that 90% of members here do not even listen to her on Spotify.

I listen to her on Apple Music.

Edited by rodrigofreitas, 28 March 2023 - 05:13 AM.

[Davey84]

LukeD, on 28 March 2023 - 04:38 AM, said:

I agree. Thing is sice Spotify is so big in Europe I would expect the best selling female singer of Europe to do better on that platform! �� Especially when both her English and French material are relevant to the market.

yes but like I posted a few days ago... most French people use Deezer instead of Spotify.

Her monthly number is still great tho! about 13 million at 500, while like a year/ 2 years ago she was (about) 430 with 8 million.

[ordinary fan]

nomys, on 28 March 2023 - 03:23 AM, said:

I was thinking. During this period without anything new, could Sony release a Duos collection?

Name : Celine Dion The Duos

Track list :
Cd 1 French
1 j irais ou tu iras feat JJG
2.toi et moi feat Charles Aznavour
3.L amour peut prendre froid feat J.Hallyday
4.Sous le vent feat Garou
5.y a pas de mots feat m.dupre
6.tout près du bonheur feat m.dupre
7.hymne feat Fred Pellerin
8.une chance qu'on s a feat jP F
9.tant de temps feat H Salvador
10.voler feat M Sardou
11.si dieu existe feat Claude dubois

Cd2 : english
1.The Prayer feat Andrea Bocelli
2.Tell Him feat B Streisand
3.incredible feat NeYo
4.i believe in you feat Il divo
5.overjoyed feat Stevie Wonder
6.it s hard to Say Goodbye feat Paul Anka
6.i hate u then i love you feat Pavarotti
7.beauty and the Beast feat Peabo Bryson
8.you and me feat Aznavour
9.immortality feat the BeeGees
10.when i fall in love feat Clive Griffin
11.acadian driftwood feat Zachary richard
12.all the way feat FS


Cd 3 bonus live :
1.Apprends-moi Live 2016
2.l envie Live 500 choristes
3. Sous le vent live 2002
4. Beauty and the Beast with Barnev Live 2017
5. J irai où tu iras live 1999 stade de France
6. The Prayer live 2010
7. I hate you then i love u live 1998
8. You re the voice live 2018
9.you shook me all night long live 2002
10.if i Can Dream live 2007
11.tout près du bonheur live 2007
12.quand on n'a que l'amour feat Maurane
13. Là-bas feat JJG
14.Caruso feat F Pagny
15.qui a le droit feat P Bruel
16.Tue moi feat Dan bigras
17. Un peu plus haut feat G Reno et JP Ferland


No I m your angel

And a little bonus ❤️��

I juste need a New release ...

+ the three duetts from the unison era "wishful thinking" feat Dan Hill, "Can't live with you, can't live without you" feat Billy Newton-Davis and "listen to me" feat Warren Wiebe

[ordinary fan]

LukeD, on 27 March 2023 - 03:26 PM, said:

#500 on Spotify Top Artists �� This sucks! I am convinced that 90% of members here do not even listen to her on Spotify.

I do listen to her on both platforms equally youtube and spotify

[LukeD]

And she is out of Top 500! 🤦 This is such a poor show. All her peers have a spot in Top 200 right now. And we're celebrating a YT upload that was due 13 years ago. It's a F****** joke 😅

[smw]

LukeD, on 28 March 2023 - 01:54 PM, said:

And she is out of Top 500! �� This is such a poor show. All her peers have a spot in Top 200 right now. And we're celebrating a YT upload that was due 13 years ago. It's a F****** joke ��

Do you think Love Again will help her out?

[Peppercorn1991]

smw, on 28 March 2023 - 02:00 PM, said:

Do you think Love Again will help her out?

I would think so.

Kev x

[mirage]

Makes me wonder why do some of you listen through other platforms instead Spotify?

I listen to everything on Spotify and never invested time to see if other platforms would suit me more.
I'm curious why some of you prefer others?

Edited by mirage, 28 March 2023 - 03:28 PM.

[Peppercorn1991]

mirage, on 28 March 2023 - 03:28 PM, said:

Makes me wonder why do some of you listen through other platforms instead Spotify?

I listen to everything on Spotify and never invested time to see if other platforms would suit me more.
I'm curious why some of you prefer others?

I quite like Spotify. Works for me really well.

Kev x

[beelee]

LukeD, on 27 March 2023 - 03:26 PM, said:

#500 on Spotify Top Artists 😭 This sucks! I am convinced that 90% of members here do not even listen to her on Spotify.

I use YouTube Music.

[beelee]

mebe, on 27 March 2023 - 04:25 PM, said:

I listen to her on YouTube Music!

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Me too! Finally, another YouTube Music user!

Have you ever wondered why there are two versions of “Let’s Talk About Love”? It’s really annoying me.

[beelee]

mirage, on 28 March 2023 - 03:28 PM, said:

Makes me wonder why do some of you listen through other platforms instead Spotify?

I listen to everything on Spotify and never invested time to see if other platforms would suit me more.
I'm curious why some of you prefer others?

One of the reasons I like YouTube Music is because it’s included with YouTube Premium so I don’t have to watch ads on YouTube.

[mebe]

beelee, on 28 March 2023 - 10:02 PM, said:

Me too! Finally, another YouTube Music user!

Have you ever wondered why there are two versions of “Let’s Talk About Love”? It’s really annoying me.

Yeah that's weird!

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