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[Bellamy]

Why many think this will be her last tour? Where did she say that? Never! You think so cause she may try to have another child after the tour? She'll come back to show buisness anyway, no matter she'd have another child or not.

[ZoraSourit]

Gonzalillo, on Nov 8 2007, 02:11 PM, said:

Costa Santos, on Nov 8 2007, 12:16 AM, said:

ALL I KNOW IS THAT IT ISN'T CELINE'S FAULT...

Please don't come with that now. How do you know? Who in the world can believe that if Céline wants to sing in one place for her fans, she won't try her best to do it, whatever it takes?

Take back to 1999 and the concert cancellations she made because of Renés illness. Then she said that she would consider to come in her next tour to the places she cancelled. How do you explain that?
That only proves again that SPAIN, PORTUGAL and LATIN AMERICA are in the bottom list of her priorities (again). It seems we're not in the world, or that she hasn't fans there.

How can they do that crazy US dates list when american people have had it in the US for 5 YEARS?? This is so frustrating and annoying for us Didn't have USA enough Céline for 5 years? What about people that have never seen her just for ONCE in all her career?

I know how you feel... It's very frustrating...

[tativale]

Bellamy, on Nov 8 2007, 12:16 PM, said:

Why many think this will be her last tour? Where did she say that? Never! You think so cause she may try to have another child after the tour? She'll come back to show buisness anyway, no matter she'd have another child or not.

Because she said that for a french newspaper that this tour might be the last one. At least, worldwide, I do believe so.

[Ted]

If it makes you feel better to blame Celine, so be it.

[Bellamy]

Rene would find a way to convince her tour again anyway.

[Frida]

Gonzalillo, on Nov 8 2007, 03:11 PM, said:

Costa Santos, on Nov 8 2007, 12:16 AM, said:

ALL I KNOW IS THAT IT ISN'T CELINE'S FAULT...

Please don't come with that now. How do you know? Who in the world can believe that if Céline wants to sing in one place for her fans, she won't try her best to do it, whatever it takes?

Take back to 1999 and the concert cancellations she made because of Renés illness. Then she said that she would consider to come in her next tour to the places she cancelled. How do you explain that?
That only proves again that SPAIN, PORTUGAL and LATIN AMERICA are in the bottom list of her priorities (again). It seems we're not in the world, or that she hasn't fans there.

How can they do that crazy US dates list when american people have had it in the US for 5 YEARS?? This is so frustrating and annoying for us Didn't have USA enough Céline for 5 years? What about people that have never seen her just for ONCE in all her career?

I just know that IF CÉLINE herself would have wanted to go where she hasn't never been before in concert (or have just keep her promise), she would have done ANYTHING for it. Don't tell me its not her fault.

For Gods sake, tell me about Madonna, that she has sung in countries where she was even warned under personal threatens and I will believe, but its not Céline's case!   

tativale, on Nov 8 2007, 12:21 AM, said:

Costa Santos, on Nov 7 2007, 09:16 PM, said:

ALL I KNOW IS THAT IT ISN'T CELINE'S FAULT...

Hahahaha Might be not only her fault but it's her management fault and so on. & lack of interest on those places such as Portugal and Spain.

[ZoraSourit]

Bellamy, on Nov 8 2007, 02:27 PM, said:

Rene would find a way to convince her tour again anyway.

Or not...


Seriously I do not hope or expect anything else from them. I rather be surprised then disappointed.

[Teodora]

DianaLuts, on Nov 7 2007, 07:44 PM, said:

i am kinda concerned she is going to istambul... and i am also suprised that they don't have san diego or san francisco or even vegas! WTF is with Kansas City, Tulsa and Omaha???? I am just surprised that she is even going there as opposed to bigger cities.. even Oklahoma City is bigger.

Why are you concerned for Istambul? Except those little bomb attacks they have every now and then... Hell, I'm taking my chances with it, I'm going there!
I can't believe how many of you guys say "OMG, I'm so dissapointed, she's not coming to my city blah blah..." Get real, if you really believed Celine would go to Brazil or Poland or any whatever you're complaining about, then - forgive me for saying so - but you were being very silly. It's like me believing she'd come to Romania. Why should she? Anyway, look at this as a great opportunity to travel and see other things and places and stop being upset. I'm happy she's doing a tour at all, cause she could have just go home and have her second kid and come back in another 10 years. So chill and enjoy her! Now, I understand that some of you don't have the money to travel to see her. But I think, with a little effort, you can make it. I can make it to Vegas twice, to Paris and Istambul, and I'm from freakin' Romania, I'm paid 500 euros a month and it's considered a good paycheck, than anybody can. I had to borrow money from a bank for the Vegas trips, but that's ok. I don't need a house of my own, a car or whatever, all I ever wanna do (at least till I have my own kids) is to travel the world and I'm saving everything for this purpose. And since Celine is performing, and I can go where she is, even better, I get to do 2 of my favourite things at once: see the world and see Celine.

[Costa Santos]

Gonzalillo, on Nov 8 2007, 12:11 PM, said:

Costa Santos, on Nov 8 2007, 12:16 AM, said:

ALL I KNOW IS THAT IT ISN'T CELINE'S FAULT...

Please don't come with that now. How do you know? Who in the world can believe that if Céline wants to sing in one place for her fans, she won't try her best to do it, whatever it takes?

Take back to 1999 and the concert cancellations she made because of Renés illness. Then she said that she would consider to come in her next tour to the places she cancelled. How do you explain that?
That only proves again that SPAIN, PORTUGAL and LATIN AMERICA are in the bottom list of her priorities (again). It seems we're not in the world, or that she hasn't fans there.

How can they do that crazy US dates list when american people have had it in the US for 5 YEARS?? This is so frustrating and annoying for us Didn't have USA enough Céline for 5 years? What about people that have never seen her just for ONCE in all her career?

I just know that IF CÉLINE herself would have wanted to go where she hasn't never been before in concert (or have just keep her promise), she would have done ANYTHING for it. Don't tell me its not her fault.

For Gods sake, tell me about Madonna, that she has sung in countries where she was even warned under personal threatens and I will believe, but its not Céline's case!   

tativale, on Nov 8 2007, 12:21 AM, said:

Costa Santos, on Nov 7 2007, 09:16 PM, said:

ALL I KNOW IS THAT IT ISN'T CELINE'S FAULT...

Hahahaha Might be not only her fault but it's her management fault and so on. & lack of interest on those places such as Portugal and Spain.

I've already expressed myself... I'm quite sure that it does not depend exclusively on her; it's more complicated... Celine will never perform in country if she only wants to. THE LAST WORD DOES NOT LIE WITH HER - THAT'S WHAT I MEAN...

[ZoraSourit]

Teodora, on Nov 8 2007, 02:37 PM, said:

I can't believe how many of you guys say "OMG, I'm so dissapointed, she's not coming to my city blah blah..." Get real, if you really believed Celine would go to Brazil or Poland or any whatever you're complaining about, then - forgive me for saying so - but you were being very silly. It's like me believing she'd come to Romania.

Have I just read what I read? Did I read a xenophobe comment? I'm sorry, but whyand  wouldn't Céline go to Brazil, Poland or Romania, if she goes to South Africa or Turkey? I'm sorry but that's shameful. I won't even go further on this because it's not even worth it.


People are not complaining and are not being silly, like you said. We are speaking our mind out, like you do so many times. We have the right to do so.

She said she would go to Portugal and Spain, her concerts were 99% confirmed 1 month ago and suddenly something happened and they changed their mind for "logistic reasons". Of course the portuguese and spanish fans are disappointed. We shouldn't we? Is our country any less good than France, Italy or USA? I'm sorry, but I'm very proud of my origins. And I bet so are the spanish. She cancelled her shows in 1999 due to René's illness, promising she would come back on her next tour. Maybe promises are made to be broken.

And why wouldn't she go to Brazil or Poland? Violence? Don't think so... there are many countries on the list that are as violent as those we were left out. She never went to Brazil. She goes to Mexico in vacation but doesn't go on tour. So is not about anything else but money and convinience. It's shameful to say so, but I do believe that's the truth.

[ZoraSourit]

Costa Santos, on Nov 8 2007, 02:39 PM, said:

I've already expressed myself... I'm quite sure that it does not depend exclusively on her; it's more complicated... Celine will never perform in country if she only wants to. THE LAST WORD DOES NOT LIE WITH HER - THAT'S WHAT I MEAN...

You know, suddenly I see it very clearly... you're right. It's not their fault. It's mine. I said so, I decided! Blame it on me!




  

[tativale]

Teodora, on Nov 8 2007, 12:37 PM, said:

DianaLuts, on Nov 7 2007, 07:44 PM, said:

i am kinda concerned she is going to istambul... and i am also suprised that they don't have san diego or san francisco or even vegas! WTF is with Kansas City, Tulsa and Omaha???? I am just surprised that she is even going there as opposed to bigger cities.. even Oklahoma City is bigger.

Why are you concerned for Istambul? Except those little bomb attacks they have every now and then... Hell, I'm taking my chances with it, I'm going there!
I can't believe how many of you guys say "OMG, I'm so dissapointed, she's not coming to my city blah blah..." Get real, if you really believed Celine would go to Brazil or Poland or any whatever you're complaining about, then - forgive me for saying so - but you were being very silly. It's like me believing she'd come to Romania. Why should she? Anyway, look at this as a great opportunity to travel and see other things and places and stop being upset. I'm happy she's doing a tour at all, cause she could have just go home and have her second kid and come back in another 10 years. So chill and enjoy her! Now, I understand that some of you don't have the money to travel to see her. But I think, with a little effort, you can make it. I can make it to Vegas twice, to Paris and Istambul, and I'm from freakin' Romania, I'm paid 500 euros a month and it's considered a good paycheck, than anybody can. I had to borrow money from a bank for the Vegas trips, but that's ok. I don't need a house of my own, a car or whatever, all I ever wanna do (at least till I have my own kids) is to travel the world and I'm saving everything for this purpose. And since Celine is performing, and I can go where she is, even better, I get to do 2 of my favourite things at once: see the world and see Celine.

Is Celine coming to a place near to Brazil????????????    If so, sorry but I didn't see it on the list...
And I'm no talking about myself, I'm talking about millions fans here - Latin America, especially, - Portugal, Spain, Poland etc  - who at least can me a short trip to see Celine somewhere near them - etc, those fans who cannot afford a trip for a place too far away. I'm not saying traveling inside your country- I'm talking about traveling to another country, talking about 8-13 hours flight, about getting a visa that costs 450 reais ( US 250 dollar), a ticket plane for around 2 thousands dollars, hotel + money to eat etc.
Nobody thought she would go to Malaysia, nobody thought she would go to Turkey , to Middle East, South Africa etc. But she is coming to those places! WHY those people here cannot think & wish that she could come to our countries? The Police is coming in December, Cirque du Solei is coming for the second year, Rolling Stones, U2 etc they all came here. WHY Celine cannot come??? is that something so stupid? it can be not so easy as teh fact she going to France, Canada, US etc but it's not an absurd.
I think people should be less self fisher and think about others too.

Edited by tativale, 08 November 2007 - 09:06 AM.

[Thecolourofmylove]

Can I please bring us back to the important issue... We need to know EXACTLY when tickets go on sale to TeamCeline members for these North American dates.  A two day range isn't gonna cut it!  I have sent emails but haven't received a reply as of yet and unfortunately, Ticketmaster isn't selling the tickets to the Tulsa show...

Anyone else hear anything solid?


PS - Oklahoma City is UGLY!  Big acts always go there.  Tulsa is just finishing our Arena here and according to the news last night, Tulsa Reps have been working on getting Celine here since JANUARY 2007!!!

[Costa Santos]

ZoraSourit, on Nov 8 2007, 12:54 PM, said:

Teodora, on Nov 8 2007, 02:37 PM, said:

I can't believe how many of you guys say "OMG, I'm so dissapointed, she's not coming to my city blah blah..." Get real, if you really believed Celine would go to Brazil or Poland or any whatever you're complaining about, then - forgive me for saying so - but you were being very silly. It's like me believing she'd come to Romania.

Have I just read what I read? Did I read a xenophobe comment? I'm sorry, but whyand  wouldn't Céline go to Brazil, Poland or Romania, if she goes to South Africa or Turkey? I'm sorry but that's shameful. I won't even go further on this because it's not even worth it.


People are not complaining and are not being silly, like you said. We are speaking our mind out, like you do so many times. We have the right to do so.

She said she would go to Portugal and Spain, her concerts were 99% confirmed 1 month ago and suddenly something happened and they changed their mind for "logistic reasons". Of course the portuguese and spanish fans are disappointed. We shouldn't we? Is our country any less good than France, Italy or USA? I'm sorry, but I'm very proud of my origins. And I bet so are the spanish. She cancelled her shows in 1999 due to René's illness, promising she would come back on her next tour. Maybe promises are made to be broken.

And why wouldn't she go to Brazil or Poland? Violence? Don't think so... there are many countries on the list that are as violent as those we were left out. She never went to Brazil. She goes to Mexico in vacation but doesn't go on tour. So is not about anything else but money and convinience. It's shameful to say so, but I do believe that's the truth.

I agree with you...

ZoraSourit, on Nov 8 2007, 12:56 PM, said:

Costa Santos, on Nov 8 2007, 02:39 PM, said:

I've already expressed myself... I'm quite sure that it does not depend exclusively on her; it's more complicated... Celine will never perform in country if she only wants to. THE LAST WORD DOES NOT LIE WITH HER - THAT'S WHAT I MEAN...

You know, suddenly I see it very clearly... you're right. It's not their fault. It's mine. I said so, I decided! Blame it on me!




  

You know what I mean... That's all. "... Perform in A country..."...

[Jessyka]

stevo, on Nov 8 2007, 08:55 AM, said:

On Radio 2 Celine said she's gonna perform The Show Must Go On by Queen. She said it's a prayer and made her cry the first time she heard it

She's going to perform The Show Must Go On on tour????

OMG!    

[Thecolourofmylove]

Here is the news story from my local news station!!

http://www.kotv.com/e-clips/?id=9867

[Javito]

Teodora, on Nov 8 2007, 03:37 PM, said:

Why are you concerned for Istambul? Except those little bomb attacks they have every now and then... Hell, I'm taking my chances with it, I'm going there!
I can't believe how many of you guys say "OMG, I'm so dissapointed, she's not coming to my city blah blah..." Get real, if you really believed Celine would go to Brazil or Poland or any whatever you're complaining about, then - forgive me for saying so - but you were being very silly.

In my case, Spain appeared on 11 and 13 of july, so spanish fans were not silly dreamers. It was written in that first list the same as France or Germany

Costa Santos, on Nov 8 2007, 03:39 PM, said:

I've already expressed myself... I'm quite sure that it does not depend exclusively on her; it's more complicated... Celine will never perform in country if she only wants to. THE LAST WORD DOES NOT LIE WITH HER - THAT'S WHAT I MEAN...

Of course it not dependes only on Céline. I already know there's SO MUCH money between things, it has to do with concert sponsors and her local SM-BMG labels on each country, but I do think that Céline's will is the main point on it. I want to sing here, there and there, so I'll go now. Fans are waiting for me there and I have never sung on their country. NEVER!!.

Come on, its Céline Dion, not an amateur singer. She has enough power and influence to decide this or that. She is the best selling female artist of all time (What has to do that if she can't go in concert wherever she wants?)

There's no reason to do 6 concerts on Germany or France and not to do JUST ONE on Spain, Portugal, México or Brazil. With all my respects to french fans, its not fair that Céline has so much focus on France when she is always coming there, when its not for promotion or recording TV shows, its for concerts . So the same for US fans who have had her there for almost 5 years. Its just not fair and miserable.

[Jessyka]

ZoraSourit, on Nov 8 2007, 12:54 PM, said:

Teodora, on Nov 8 2007, 02:37 PM, said:

I can't believe how many of you guys say "OMG, I'm so dissapointed, she's not coming to my city blah blah..." Get real, if you really believed Celine would go to Brazil or Poland or any whatever you're complaining about, then - forgive me for saying so - but you were being very silly. It's like me believing she'd come to Romania.

Have I just read what I read? Did I read a xenophobe comment? I'm sorry, but whyand  wouldn't Céline go to Brazil, Poland or Romania, if she goes to South Africa or Turkey? I'm sorry but that's shameful. I won't even go further on this because it's not even worth it.


People are not complaining and are not being silly, like you said. We are speaking our mind out, like you do so many times. We have the right to do so.

She said she would go to Portugal and Spain, her concerts were 99% confirmed 1 month ago and suddenly something happened and they changed their mind for "logistic reasons". Of course the portuguese and spanish fans are disappointed. We shouldn't we? Is our country any less good than France, Italy or USA? I'm sorry, but I'm very proud of my origins. And I bet so are the spanish. She cancelled her shows in 1999 due to René's illness, promising she would come back on her next tour. Maybe promises are made to be broken.

And why wouldn't she go to Brazil or Poland? Violence? Don't think so... there are many countries on the list that are as violent as those we were left out. She never went to Brazil. She goes to Mexico in vacation but doesn't go on tour. So is not about anything else but money and convinience. It's shameful to say so, but I do believe that's the truth.

tativale, on Nov 8 2007, 01:00 PM, said:

Is Celine coming to a place near to Brazil????????????    If so, sorry but I didn't see it on the list...
And I'm no talking about myself, I'm talking about millions fans here - Latin America, especially, - Portugal, Spain, Poland etc  - who at least can me a short trip to see Celine somewhere near them - etc, those fans who cannot afford a trip for a place too far away. I'm not saying traveling inside your country- I'm talking about traveling to another country, talking about 8-13 hours flight, about getting a visa that costs 450 reais ( US 250 dollar), a ticket plane for around 2 thousands dollars, hotel + money to eat etc.
Nobody thought she would go to Malaysia, nobody thought she would go to Turkey , to Middle East, South Africa etc. But she is coming to those places! WHY those people here cannot think & wish that she could come to our countries? The Police is coming in December, Cirque du Solei is coming for the second year, Rolling Stones, U2 etc they all came here. WHY Celine cannot come??? is that something so stupid? it can be not so easy as teh fact she going to France, Canada, US etc but it's not an absurd.
I think people should be less self fisher and think about others too.

I totally agree with you two.

[Dionesque]

Well, I don't really know what to say as both sides got their rights, I think.

I mean, I'm originally from Poland, that's where my whole family still lives and it would be more than amazing to see Céline in my hometown Warsaw!
She was about to come to Poland in Summer of 1999 but than something went wrong (of course most likely the money issue...) and the record company invited Whitney insted (which gave the worst show in her career in Poland that day I guess... what a shame, I like her music but that show was just a disastair!!).

Anyways, what I want to say is that it would be great to see her in my own hometown but as for some reasons she can't/don't want/whatever come to my home country. I'm glad to be able to travel a bit and combine my three biggest passions: Céline, travelling and using foreign languages!

Really, we in Europe can't complain much as it isn't so far and so expansive to go to the other European country! I talked about it in this thread some months ago: we've got lots of low-cost fares and chaap hostels (I pay for my stay in Paris 22 euros per night which is cheap and still comfortable!).

The only fans who really can complain are the South American ones as for them it means some huge expences to go US or Europe!!

And soooo many dates in the US - how can some of the US fans say these are "only" 45 dates for North America??!!
There are multiple dates in almost same areas (like the area of Los Angeles - like 3 or 4 concerts in radius of just 100 km!)

So please, there is really no reason to complain!!

By the way, I talked to someone connected to Sony BMG Poland and there are still some discussions about the concert in Poland.
But in the other hand - if she would come to Warsaw - there is no such venue like Bercy or a good stadium. And if she would come to a small venue (there are some great small venues in Warsaw), I'm sure most of fans won't be able to affort prices like 500 euros pro ticket just because the venue is like with 2000 seats! Berlin only 6 hours train ride from Warsaw and it's really cheap.

Oh well, I won't organize your tour shedule - my point is just that there is... no point to complain for Europaen fans at all!!

[Teodora]

celinelover50, on Nov 8 2007, 04:19 PM, said:

already posted lol

ZoraSourit, on Nov 8 2007, 04:54 PM, said:

Teodora, on Nov 8 2007, 02:37 PM, said:

I can't believe how many of you guys say "OMG, I'm so dissapointed, she's not coming to my city blah blah..." Get real, if you really believed Celine would go to Brazil or Poland or any whatever you're complaining about, then - forgive me for saying so - but you were being very silly. It's like me believing she'd come to Romania.

Have I just read what I read? Did I read a xenophobe comment? I'm sorry, but whyand  wouldn't Céline go to Brazil, Poland or Romania, if she goes to South Africa or Turkey? I'm sorry but that's shameful. I won't even go further on this because it's not even worth it.


People are not complaining and are not being silly, like you said. We are speaking our mind out, like you do so many times. We have the right to do so.

She said she would go to Portugal and Spain, her concerts were 99% confirmed 1 month ago and suddenly something happened and they changed their mind for "logistic reasons". Of course the portuguese and spanish fans are disappointed. We shouldn't we? Is our country any less good than France, Italy or USA? I'm sorry, but I'm very proud of my origins. And I bet so are the spanish. She cancelled her shows in 1999 due to René's illness, promising she would come back on her next tour. Maybe promises are made to be broken.

And why wouldn't she go to Brazil or Poland? Violence? Don't think so... there are many countries on the list that are as violent as those we were left out. She never went to Brazil. She goes to Mexico in vacation but doesn't go on tour. So is not about anything else but money and convinience. It's shameful to say so, but I do believe that's the truth.

Hello! I'm from Romania! Where the hell do you see xenophoby in my comment? Those are not interesting markets for Celine, whatever you guys may think. You guys have to start thinking business. And of course they want to make money from it, what do you think. How childish to think she's in it just for kicks. I mean, do you do you job just for fun? No! That's why she's not coming. I don't know of any violence or whatever in those countries, more than in any other. I'm going to Istambul for God's sake, how can you tell me I'm made a xenophob remark... Geeez, you people read and interpret what you want to understand... Her concerts in Portugal or Spain were never officially confirmed, they were just rumours. I would have loved to go to any of those countries, not to mention Brazil. That country has been on my "too see" list forever, I hope I'll have enough money in the following years to actually make it there.
Please do not interpret comments in the way that suits your anger or dissapointment or whatever, but in the way they were said.
If she doesn't come now, it doesn't mean she will never go. But I think her going to China, South Africa, Malaysia or Istambul is enough for the moment, from the point of view of going to places she's never been before. This is a one-year tour. Maybe one way to help her come to your country is talking to tour promoters there. She has to be invited to come. I know, for Romania, that mobile telephony company Vodafone was trying to get her here, but apparently they didn't succeed (they brought Rolling Stones, Beyonce and George Michael here). They actually run a survey at one point, a year or two ago, to find out Romanian's preference in music, and Celine was in the second or third place. But that's not enough, music sales have to speak, and piracy rate is too big, that's why is not an interesting market. YET.

Edited by Teodora, 08 November 2007 - 09:24 AM.

[nano]

The entire music world is led by "the money men" - big sponsors, investors...if they don't wanna do a concert in some countries due to money or political reasons or whatever, they won't do it. There are a lot of different reasons: maybe the fanbase isn't "big" enough, not a suitable arena/stadium/hall, MONEY, politics...etc..etc...
I believe that Celine would love to perform in every country - in every city, but that's just impossible. Like she said in Vegas that she can't control the ticket prizes..there are some things she just can't control. The music business is much more complicated and twisted than we think.  

I do understand all the fans in Brazil/Spain/Portugal/etc...I think she should do a concert in South America, I know that there're lots of fans who are dying to see her. She's going to places she's never been before so why not South America? Why not Spain? Why not Finland?  

Let's call Rene and tell him to make new plans for the world tour.  

[tativale]

Teodora, on Nov 8 2007, 01:21 PM, said:

Her concerts in Portugal or Spain were never officially confirmed, they were just rumours. I would have loved to go to any of those countries, not to mention Brazil. That country has been on my "too see" list forever, I hope I'll have enough money in the following years to actually make it there.
Please do not interpret comments in the way that suits your anger or dissapointment or whatever, but in the way they were said.
If she doesn't come now, it doesn't mean she will never go. But I think her going to China, South Africa, Malaysia or Istambul is enough for the moment, from the point of view of going to places she's never been before. This is a one-year tour. Maybe one way to help her come to your country is talking to tour promoters there. She has to be invited to come. I know, for Romania, that mobile telephony company Vodafone was trying to get her here, but apparently they didn't succeed (they brought Rolling Stones, Beyonce and George Michael here). They actually run a survey at one point, a year or two ago, to find out Romanian's preference in music, and Celine was in the second or third place. But that's not enough, music sales have to speak, and piracy rate is too big, that's why is not an interesting market. YET.

This is an absurd what you are  saying. Are saying that my friend is a layer? Or something? Because, just for you to know it, she talked to people at SonyPT - BIG people - and as Alê (Zorasourit)  said the concerts in Portugal and Spain were confirmed a month ago. They were never a rumors.
Don't even say things you don't know. Thank you!!!

Thank you Anu for your support!!!!!

Edited by tativale, 08 November 2007 - 09:31 AM.

[Costa Santos]

Gonzalillo, on Nov 8 2007, 01:06 PM, said:

Teodora, on Nov 8 2007, 03:37 PM, said:

Why are you concerned for Istambul? Except those little bomb attacks they have every now and then... Hell, I'm taking my chances with it, I'm going there!
I can't believe how many of you guys say "OMG, I'm so dissapointed, she's not coming to my city blah blah..." Get real, if you really believed Celine would go to Brazil or Poland or any whatever you're complaining about, then - forgive me for saying so - but you were being very silly.

In my case, Spain appeared on 11 and 13 of july, so spanish fans were not silly dreamers. It was written in that first list the same as France or Germany

Costa Santos, on Nov 8 2007, 03:39 PM, said:

I've already expressed myself... I'm quite sure that it does not depend exclusively on her; it's more complicated... Celine will never perform in country if she only wants to. THE LAST WORD DOES NOT LIE WITH HER - THAT'S WHAT I MEAN...

Of course it not dependes only on Céline. I already know there's SO MUCH money between things, it has to do with concert sponsors and her local SM-BMG labels on each country, but I do think that Céline's will is the main point on it. I want to sing here, there and there, so I'll go now. Fans are waiting for me there and I have never sung on their country. NEVER!!.

Come on, its Céline Dion, not an amateur singer. She has enough power and influence to decide this or that. She is the best selling female artist of all time (What has to do that if she can't go in concert wherever she wants?)

There's no reason to do 6 concerts on Germany or France and not to do JUST ONE on Spain, Portugal, México or Brazil. With all my respects to french fans, its not fair that Céline has so much focus on France when she is always coming there, when its not for promotion or recording TV shows, its for concerts . So the same for US fans who have had her there for almost 5 years. Its just not fair and miserable.

Certainly, there's a reason to do 6 shows in Germany, for instance... That's why I said that it was more complicated - All I mean is that it does not depend exclusively on her. She already said she would love coming to Brazil (...) Once, she told a Brazilian journalist that Sony was responsible for that... Anyway... It does not depend on us, it does not depend on her...

[tativale]

Costa Santos, on Nov 8 2007, 01:38 PM, said:

Gonzalillo, on Nov 8 2007, 01:06 PM, said:

Teodora, on Nov 8 2007, 03:37 PM, said:

Why are you concerned for Istambul? Except those little bomb attacks they have every now and then... Hell, I'm taking my chances with it, I'm going there!
I can't believe how many of you guys say "OMG, I'm so dissapointed, she's not coming to my city blah blah..." Get real, if you really believed Celine would go to Brazil or Poland or any whatever you're complaining about, then - forgive me for saying so - but you were being very silly.

In my case, Spain appeared on 11 and 13 of july, so spanish fans were not silly dreamers. It was written in that first list the same as France or Germany

Costa Santos, on Nov 8 2007, 03:39 PM, said:

I've already expressed myself... I'm quite sure that it does not depend exclusively on her; it's more complicated... Celine will never perform in country if she only wants to. THE LAST WORD DOES NOT LIE WITH HER - THAT'S WHAT I MEAN...

Of course it not dependes only on Céline. I already know there's SO MUCH money between things, it has to do with concert sponsors and her local SM-BMG labels on each country, but I do think that Céline's will is the main point on it. I want to sing here, there and there, so I'll go now. Fans are waiting for me there and I have never sung on their country. NEVER!!.

Come on, its Céline Dion, not an amateur singer. She has enough power and influence to decide this or that. She is the best selling female artist of all time (What has to do that if she can't go in concert wherever she wants?)

There's no reason to do 6 concerts on Germany or France and not to do JUST ONE on Spain, Portugal, México or Brazil. With all my respects to french fans, its not fair that Céline has so much focus on France when she is always coming there, when its not for promotion or recording TV shows, its for concerts . So the same for US fans who have had her there for almost 5 years. Its just not fair and miserable.

Certainly, there's a reason to do 6 shows in Germany, for instance... That's why I said that it was more complicated - All I mean is that it does not depend exclusively on her. She already said she would love coming to Brazil (...) Once, she told a Brazilian journalist that Sony was responsible for that... Anyway... It does not depend on us, it does not depend on her...

hahah she never said that Sony was responsible for that. If she did so, it was a way to not answer the question. As of course Sony is one of many things involved;
She said a few times that she would love to visit Brazil, but she never ever said she would do a concert here.

[Jessyka]

Costa Santos, on Nov 8 2007, 01:38 PM, said:

Certainly, there's a reason to do 6 shows in Germany, for instance... That's why I said that it was more complicated - All I mean is that it does not depend exclusively on her. She already said she would love coming to Brazil (...) Once, she told a Brazilian journalist that Sony was responsible for that... Anyway... It does not depend on us, it does not depend on her...

She said that? When? To who?

[Teodora]

tativale, on Nov 8 2007, 05:29 PM, said:

Teodora, on Nov 8 2007, 01:21 PM, said:

Her concerts in Portugal or Spain were never officially confirmed, they were just rumours. I would have loved to go to any of those countries, not to mention Brazil. That country has been on my "too see" list forever, I hope I'll have enough money in the following years to actually make it there.
Please do not interpret comments in the way that suits your anger or dissapointment or whatever, but in the way they were said.
If she doesn't come now, it doesn't mean she will never go. But I think her going to China, South Africa, Malaysia or Istambul is enough for the moment, from the point of view of going to places she's never been before. This is a one-year tour. Maybe one way to help her come to your country is talking to tour promoters there. She has to be invited to come. I know, for Romania, that mobile telephony company Vodafone was trying to get her here, but apparently they didn't succeed (they brought Rolling Stones, Beyonce and George Michael here). They actually run a survey at one point, a year or two ago, to find out Romanian's preference in music, and Celine was in the second or third place. But that's not enough, music sales have to speak, and piracy rate is too big, that's why is not an interesting market. YET.

This is an absurd what you are  saying. Are saying that my friend is a layer? Or something? Because, just for you to know it, she talked to people at SonyPT - BIG people - and as Alê (Zorasourit)  said the concerts in Portugal and Spain were confirmed a month ago. They were never a rumors.
Don't even say things you don't know. Thank you!!!

Thank you Anu for your support!!!!!

They were in talks! Until you see an official press release, with officially confirmed dates, it is not confirmed! And those dates were never officially confirmed. Make the difference! They were likely to happen, but it didn't work out. On the other hand, I'm sure some more dates can be added and they're still in talks for some venues. And take a chill pill, will you?! And this things don't depend on her at all. Of course, if she's totally against going some place they won't make her go. But even if she's dying to go to some city, and no one there is willing to make the investment in her concert, then it's impossible for her to. They've been in talks for that Quebec concert for ages, for God's sake! Don't you think she wants to perform for her own people? She loves that, I'm sure her whole heart is into it, but you see how much work it is to make everything OK for everybody. Or if Sony doesn't think those tickets are likely to sell or whatever. Again, think business! Like Celine says, you cannot please everybody. Should I be totally angry and depressed and dissapointed she's not coming to my country? That is just crazy (and not in a good way)!

Edited by Teodora, 08 November 2007 - 09:54 AM.

[tativale]

Teodora, on Nov 8 2007, 01:46 PM, said:

tativale, on Nov 8 2007, 05:29 PM, said:

Teodora, on Nov 8 2007, 01:21 PM, said:

Her concerts in Portugal or Spain were never officially confirmed, they were just rumours. I would have loved to go to any of those countries, not to mention Brazil. That country has been on my "too see" list forever, I hope I'll have enough money in the following years to actually make it there.
Please do not interpret comments in the way that suits your anger or dissapointment or whatever, but in the way they were said.
If she doesn't come now, it doesn't mean she will never go. But I think her going to China, South Africa, Malaysia or Istambul is enough for the moment, from the point of view of going to places she's never been before. This is a one-year tour. Maybe one way to help her come to your country is talking to tour promoters there. She has to be invited to come. I know, for Romania, that mobile telephony company Vodafone was trying to get her here, but apparently they didn't succeed (they brought Rolling Stones, Beyonce and George Michael here). They actually run a survey at one point, a year or two ago, to find out Romanian's preference in music, and Celine was in the second or third place. But that's not enough, music sales have to speak, and piracy rate is too big, that's why is not an interesting market. YET.

This is an absurd what you are  saying. Are saying that my friend is a layer? Or something? Because, just for you to know it, she talked to people at SonyPT - BIG people - and as Alê (Zorasourit)  said the concerts in Portugal and Spain were confirmed a month ago. They were never a rumors.
Don't even say things you don't know. Thank you!!!

Thank you Anu for your support!!!!!

They were in talks! Until you see an official press release, with officially confirmed dates, it is not confirmed! And those dates were never officially confirmed. Make the difference! They were likely to happen, but it didn't work out. On the other hand, I'm sure some more dates can be added and they're still in talks for some venues. And take a chill pill, will you?!

You are the one who must take a chill pill, okay? And don't talk to me like this anymore - NEVER.
You don't know anything about the plans in Portugal so AGAIN, don't say things you don't know!
Do you work for them? No. Do you have a BIG contact on Sony PT? No.
Just for you to know, Sony PT had big plans for Celine, she even recorded 4 videos for them.
And the thing is it was confirmed but it got canceled. So don't say anything about it anymore.

Edited by tativale, 08 November 2007 - 09:55 AM.

[Costa Santos]

tativale, on Nov 8 2007, 01:42 PM, said:

Costa Santos, on Nov 8 2007, 01:38 PM, said:

Gonzalillo, on Nov 8 2007, 01:06 PM, said:

Teodora, on Nov 8 2007, 03:37 PM, said:

Why are you concerned for Istambul? Except those little bomb attacks they have every now and then... Hell, I'm taking my chances with it, I'm going there!
I can't believe how many of you guys say "OMG, I'm so dissapointed, she's not coming to my city blah blah..." Get real, if you really believed Celine would go to Brazil or Poland or any whatever you're complaining about, then - forgive me for saying so - but you were being very silly.

In my case, Spain appeared on 11 and 13 of july, so spanish fans were not silly dreamers. It was written in that first list the same as France or Germany

Costa Santos, on Nov 8 2007, 03:39 PM, said:

I've already expressed myself... I'm quite sure that it does not depend exclusively on her; it's more complicated... Celine will never perform in country if she only wants to. THE LAST WORD DOES NOT LIE WITH HER - THAT'S WHAT I MEAN...

Of course it not dependes only on Céline. I already know there's SO MUCH money between things, it has to do with concert sponsors and her local SM-BMG labels on each country, but I do think that Céline's will is the main point on it. I want to sing here, there and there, so I'll go now. Fans are waiting for me there and I have never sung on their country. NEVER!!.

Come on, its Céline Dion, not an amateur singer. She has enough power and influence to decide this or that. She is the best selling female artist of all time (What has to do that if she can't go in concert wherever she wants?)

There's no reason to do 6 concerts on Germany or France and not to do JUST ONE on Spain, Portugal, México or Brazil. With all my respects to french fans, its not fair that Céline has so much focus on France when she is always coming there, when its not for promotion or recording TV shows, its for concerts . So the same for US fans who have had her there for almost 5 years. Its just not fair and miserable.

Certainly, there's a reason to do 6 shows in Germany, for instance... That's why I said that it was more complicated - All I mean is that it does not depend exclusively on her. She already said she would love coming to Brazil (...) Once, she told a Brazilian journalist that Sony was responsible for that... Anyway... It does not depend on us, it does not depend on her...

hahah she never said that Sony was responsible for that. If she did so, it was a way to not answer the question. As of course Sony is one of many things involved;
She said a few times that she would love to visit Brazil, but she never ever said she would do a concert here.

Yes, she did. She said that it depended on her label... Something like that... Anyway...

Jessyka, on Nov 8 2007, 01:42 PM, said:

Costa Santos, on Nov 8 2007, 01:38 PM, said:

Certainly, there's a reason to do 6 shows in Germany, for instance... That's why I said that it was more complicated - All I mean is that it does not depend exclusively on her. She already said she would love coming to Brazil (...) Once, she told a Brazilian journalist that Sony was responsible for that... Anyway... It does not depend on us, it does not depend on her...

She said that? When? To who?

Yes, she did... By 2.002, if I'm not wrong... To a Brazilian journalist... From a magazine...

[remykyes]

You know what guys? Let's be glad she's going on tour at all. For all we know, she could have said "I'm done with showbusiness!" and never toured again. I don't know who makes these decisions, but be glad she is coming anywhere at all. All I have read for the past few pages is how angry some of you are that Celine isn't coming to your cites, and you have a right to be. But starting a all-out fight on the forum is no way to take out that anger! We are ALL friends here, and we are also here for one common purpose, CELINE! She's the reason this forum exists, the reason many of us don't have lives outside of work and school! LOL! What I'm trying to say is, I'm not blaming Celine for any of this. Heck, she's coming to Columbus, OH on a Monday so I'll have to miss class the next day. I'm not so thrilled about that, but we have to make due with what we are given. Come on everyone! Let's Talk About LOVE!

[Teodora]

tativale, on Nov 8 2007, 05:53 PM, said:

Teodora, on Nov 8 2007, 01:46 PM, said:

tativale, on Nov 8 2007, 05:29 PM, said:

Teodora, on Nov 8 2007, 01:21 PM, said:

Her concerts in Portugal or Spain were never officially confirmed, they were just rumours. I would have loved to go to any of those countries, not to mention Brazil. That country has been on my "too see" list forever, I hope I'll have enough money in the following years to actually make it there.
Please do not interpret comments in the way that suits your anger or dissapointment or whatever, but in the way they were said.
If she doesn't come now, it doesn't mean she will never go. But I think her going to China, South Africa, Malaysia or Istambul is enough for the moment, from the point of view of going to places she's never been before. This is a one-year tour. Maybe one way to help her come to your country is talking to tour promoters there. She has to be invited to come. I know, for Romania, that mobile telephony company Vodafone was trying to get her here, but apparently they didn't succeed (they brought Rolling Stones, Beyonce and George Michael here). They actually run a survey at one point, a year or two ago, to find out Romanian's preference in music, and Celine was in the second or third place. But that's not enough, music sales have to speak, and piracy rate is too big, that's why is not an interesting market. YET.

This is an absurd what you are  saying. Are saying that my friend is a layer? Or something? Because, just for you to know it, she talked to people at SonyPT - BIG people - and as Alê (Zorasourit)  said the concerts in Portugal and Spain were confirmed a month ago. They were never a rumors.
Don't even say things you don't know. Thank you!!!

Thank you Anu for your support!!!!!

They were in talks! Until you see an official press release, with officially confirmed dates, it is not confirmed! And those dates were never officially confirmed. Make the difference! They were likely to happen, but it didn't work out. On the other hand, I'm sure some more dates can be added and they're still in talks for some venues. And take a chill pill, will you?!

You are the one who must take a chill pill, okay? And don't talk to me like this anymore - NEVER.
You don't know anything about the plans in Portugal so AGAIN, don't say things you don't know!
Do you work for them? No. Do you have a BIG contact on Sony PT? No.
Just for you to know, Sony PT had big plans for Celine, she even recorded 4 videos for them.
And the thing is it was confirmed but it got canceled. So don't say anything about it anymore.

Honey, you're getting histerical here. First of all, you started putting word into my mouth and interpreting what I was saying, and if anyone should be mad right now it's me, because you put words into my mouth. But I'm not mad, I'm just trying to talk some sense into and it's not working, obviously.  You don't work for Sony either. It's not like they cancelled, they had obviously never signed a deal. When you'll start being reasonable you'll understand that. Remember how a while ago even Rene said there were supposed to be like 5 nights in Montreal? Well, there are only 2, after all. And it's not because she doesn't want to perform there, that's for sure. See what I mean? Nothing is confirmed until you get a final and official word, which only happened yesterday.
Look, I don't want to fight you, or anybody. If you read my first comment and you thought it was offensive to you, than I'm sorry, but I can assure you it was only offensive in the interpretation you gave it, not in the one I wrote it. Let's cut that chill pill in two and we can both take half, OK?
Really, being upset or dissapointed because she won't come where you want her to come it's no use, it will not make her come. Like remykyes says, and like I said before too, we should just be happy she's touring at all.